Re: Welcome to Scotland

[Jim Sims]

On Nov 30, 2007, at 6:05 AM, Kay C Lan wrote:

I don't wish to detract from the general incredulity of how  
someone can be
paid so much to come up with the bleeding obvious, but I think in  
this case
wont the next time you visit Glasgow the big 'Welcome to Scotland'  
still be
there but instead of the small "Best Small Country In The World" be  
replaced

with "Birthplace of Charles Rennie Mackintosh" and refer to the 2014
Commonwealth Games among other slogans.


I'm going to see if I can that kind of cash for "Malta - the best  
nano country in the world!"


sims




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Re: Welcome to Scotland

[Kay C Lan]

On Nov 30, 2007 10:37 AM, Ken Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> But look at what I saw as I entered the Glasgow airport this last May:
>
>   http://www.sonsothunder.com/Welcome.png
>
> I don't wish to detract from the general incredulity of how someone can be
paid so much to come up with the bleeding obvious, but I think in this case
wont the next time you visit Glasgow the big 'Welcome to Scotland' still be
there but instead of the small "Best Small Country In The World" be replaced
with "Birthplace of Charles Rennie Mackintosh" and refer to the 2014
Commonwealth Games among other slogans.

That's what you'll be getting for all that money;-)

I guess the other question that needs to be asked is will RunRev take
advantage of this opportunity and suggest:

Edinburgh's options include "UNESCO First City of Literature" and "Real
Financial Strength".

Home of a new Revolution

Along a similar line I remember a couple of years ago hearing about a multi
year English University Study that concluded 'Scots are generally ticked off
with the English'

But as far as national tourist slogans go I think the prize goes to Hong
Kong which at the beginning of 2003 introduced the new "Hong Kong, it'll
take your breathe away!" slogan. Unfortunately for them, back on 16 Nov 2002
the first suspected case of SARS was recorded in Southern China. By March 12
2003 the WHO had issued it's global alert which the media blew completely
out of proportion leaving the entire world scared that they'd never breath
again. So around April 12 2003 Hong Kong axed it's new, but clearly
inappropriate, slogan.

Talk about bad timing ;-)
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Re: How to show a picture from a MySQL Database

[Kay C Lan]

On Nov 30, 2007 12:28 AM, Horst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> working happy with mySQL since a few month now. But, I can´t figure out
> how
> to show a picture stored in the database. Don´t know if it´s base64
> encoded
> or not.
>

I assume that you are using:

revQueryDatabaseBLOB

Which is specifically used when you are going to refer to a record set that
may contain more than 64K of data, which pictures can easily be.

Conversely, have you tried:

revDataFromQuery

and given it a SQL command that will only return one record:

SELECT img FROM db WHERE id = 1234

Also after your revDataFromQuery make sure you:

put the result into checkErrors

If checkErrors doesn't contain an error message then you know that the data
was successfully extracted. So, if you still can't display the image, then I
suspect it is in a format that Rev doesn't natively recognise.

HTH
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MySQL Driver for Linux CGI

[Bridger Maxwell]

Hey,
  After a small change in the way my website's files are arranged, some of
them have stopped working.  I have traced it to a problem connecting to the
database, which previously worked.  I get this error when running my cgi:

Failed to load dbmysql.so error dbmysql.so: cannot open shared object file:
No such file or directoryfound /serverPath/cgi-bin/dbmysql.so
symbols -1208625966,-1208626080,-1208625994

The file that is is referencing is there, and the case in the filename is
correct.  When I move the dbmysql.so file, or change its case it gives me
this error:

Failed to load dbmysql.so error dbmysql.so: cannot open shared object file:
No such file or directoryError opening database: revdberr,invalid database
type

I can't make heads or tails of this.  It seems like it gives me the error
about there being no driver file when the driver is there, and the more
general error when the driver is not.
Both the engine and the driver were taken from the 2.6.1 distribution of
Revolution.  When I check "the version" it returns 2.6.6.  Both the engine
and the driver have their permissions set to 755.

  Thank You,
 Bridger Maxwell
 www.FieryFerret.com
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Re: menu accelerators problem

[Sarah Reichelt]

> I use set the menubar all the time for my Mac apps but the docs say:
> "Platform Support: MacOS and OS X
> Use the menubar property to specify which menus appear in the menu bar
> on Mac OS systems when a stack is the active window."
>
> My app is Win which leads me to ask if this is a doc mistake and if
> not, then why does it (apparently) matter on Windows?
>
> Should I report this and if so, as what?

I'd report it as a docs error. It would seem that if you have more
than one available menubar, then this is needed for Windows systems as
well and possible Linux too.

Sarah
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Re: Welcome to Scotland

[Ken Ray]

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:22:29 -0800, Mark Wieder wrote:

> I couldn't resist posting this (mind the wrap):
> 
> 
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2007/11/28/scotland-s-new-125k-slogan-welcome-to-scotland-86908-20170094/

You want to know something funnier? The article is dated 11/28/07 and 
states "And the exciting new catchphrase dreamed up by top advertising 
brains is..."Welcome to Scotland". Artwork featuring the message will 
be displayed at all Scots airports from St Andrew's Day, accompanied by 
different national and local messages."

But look at what I saw as I entered the Glasgow airport this last May:

   http://www.sonsothunder.com/Welcome.png

:-D



Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
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Re: Trapping the Close Window Action

[Sarah Reichelt]

> Is there anyway to trap the Close Window action? e.g. when the user
> presses the red close window button on Mac or the X on Windows.
>
> I know I can use closeStack but this gets called regardless of
> whether the window was closed due to the button being closed or if
> it's closed from the Script. In the former case I want to quit the
> application.

Try closeStackRequest

Cheers,
Sarah
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Trapping the Close Window Action

[Dave]

Hi,

Is there anyway to trap the Close Window action? e.g. when the user  
presses the red close window button on Mac or the X on Windows.


I know I can use closeStack but this gets called regardless of  
whether the window was closed due to the button being closed or if  
it's closed from the Script. In the former case I want to quit the  
application.


Thanks a lot
All the Best
Dave

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Re: Send Wake-on-Lan _Packet

[Andre Garzia]

Tariel,

I loved it too... I actually printed it! :-D

Cheers
andre

On 11/29/07, Mark Wieder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tariel-
>
> > reminded me this story.. :)
> >
> > http://www.mentors.ca/bohr.html
>
> ! What a wonderful anecdote ! I hadn't heard this one before... Thanks.
>
> --
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Welcome to Scotland

[Mark Wieder]

I couldn't resist posting this (mind the wrap):

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2007/11/28/scotland-s-new-125k-slogan-welcome-to-scotland-86908-20170094/

-- 
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Re: Quicktime callbacks?

[Chipp Walters]

Thanks Trevor.

I ended up monitoring via send in time and the playStarted and
playStopped messages. Plus, kept a local for the currentTime and if it
quit changing, I quit sending messages. Works well.

Yeah, I tried the  header, and it doesn't
work. So, I just ended up turning off the controller and rolling my
own.

Thanks for the help.
BTW, I'm typing this on my new ASUS eee ittybitty laptop (which is
currently hooked up to a full keyboard, mouse and large display).
Latest version of Rev2.9 does run on it, but I haven't really put it
through it's paces...screen snapshot doesn't work right.

-Chipp
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Re: Send Wake-on-Lan _Packet

[Mark Wieder]

Tariel-

> reminded me this story.. :)
>
> http://www.mentors.ca/bohr.html

! What a wonderful anecdote ! I hadn't heard this one before... Thanks.

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Including Cursors in Standalone build settings not working

[mfstuart]

Hi all,

(Env: WinXP; RunRev 2.8.1)

In my application, I use the following script on a button:

on mouseEnter
  set the lockcursor to true
  set the cursor to 65  --w. resize runrev cursor
end mouseEnter

So I need to include the cursors in the build, right?

In the Standalone Application Settings, I select the option: "Select
inclusions for the standalone application".
Then check "Cursors", save the stack and build the application standalone.
When I open the application and mouse over the button, 
there's no change of the cursor referenced in the script - just the
pointer/arrow.

Is this a bug, and if so, anyone know the bug number to vote on?
If not, what do I need to do to make this work?

Thanx,
Mark Stuart
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Controlling iTunes in Revolution Using COM and Applescript

[Francis Nugent Dixon]

Hi from Paris,

In a recent newsletter you make some of us drool with stories
about controlling iTunes from a Rev stack. Unfortunately, I
can't read the "associated stack" because I don't have the
latest version of Revolution, and I'm sure I'm not alone.
Is it possible to have a version of the stack I can open
with Rev 2.6.

Some of us don't have the unlimited resources to buy all the
(expensive) versions of Revolution as they become available.

If your object is to let users of older versions of Revolution
by the wayside, please let us know now, so we can get used to
the idea.

If anybody is interested in paying $124.50 for the latest version
of Rev Studio (we can split the costs of $249 for two copies),
please let me know before December 4.


Thanks

-Francis



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Re: Revbrowser & Standalone

[Ludovic THEBAULT]

I've understood why the browser doen't display in my standalone :  
i've a backdrop


It's seem the browser doesn't display anything if there is a backdrop.

I've already submit this bug with revzilla.

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How to show a picture from a MySQL Database

[Horst]

Holá everybody,

working happy with mySQL since a few month now. But, I can´t figure out how
to show a picture stored in the database. Don´t know if it´s base64 encoded
or not. 

As usual, it will be easy, but please give me a hand 

best regards
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Re: Quicktime callbacks?

[Trevor DeVore]

On Nov 29, 2007, at 4:53 AM, Chipp Walters wrote:


Due to the fact that the QT on XP doesn't respect any of the SMIL
extension commands when used with SMIL files, I'm having to roll my
own timeslider with progress indicator.

I was wondering if there are any undocumented QT callbacks I can use
for this, or do I just have to handle the 'playStarted' and
'playStopped' messages and do a 'send in time' to update the position
of the timeline slider?

Thanks if anyone knows a better way to handle this...OR a way to
display the timeline in a WinXP player object when opening a SMIL file
(I'm pretty sure I've correctly used all the SMIL Extensions)


Chipp,

1) I'm not aware of any callbacks that Revolution exposes.

2) For my projects I just use send in time to monitor playback.

3) When you mention the SMIL extensions are you referring to the QT  
ones mentioned at the url below?





If so and you already tried  then I don't  
know what else to try. If you have tried   
then see if it works for you.


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Re: Any suggestions on how to "onion skinning"?

[Mark Smith]

Well, one alternative that also seems to work is to map the 24bit  
value of each pixel to an 8bit value :


function makeGS @inData
   repeat with n = 1 to length(inData) - 3 step 4
  get binarydecode("M", char n to n+3 of inData, tPix)
  put numtochar(tPix div 65536) into tv
  put null & tv & tv & tv after outData
   end repeat
   return outData
end makeGS

It's maybe 25% quicker than dealing with each color component  
individually.


Best,

Mark

On 29 Nov 2007, at 09:48, Wilhelm Sanke wrote:


Mark Smith mark at maseurope.net wrote:


This is sort of interesting:

if you simply take one of the color bytes of each pixel, and copy  
it  to the other two color bytes, you get a gray-scale result.  
The  brightness/contrast varies with which color you choose. For  
the few  images I've tried, it seems to be red =brighter/less  
contrast  to  blue= darker/more contrast. This may be no surprise  
to the pro image  wranglers among us, but seemed intriguing to me.



And Chipp Walters chipp at chipp.com wrote:


Mark,

Unless you average the 3, your gray-scale result may not work
properly. Try it on an image with 3 circles: 100%R, 100%G, 100%B and
you'll see what I mean.




My experience is that with most photos you get a very nice  
grayscale image using the red pixel and copying the value to the  
other two pixels like Mark suggested.


The last public version of my "Imagedata Toolkit Preview 3" (update  
of April 17)




contains both grayscale routines using "average" and those with  
copying one color pixel to the other two - implemented for all  
three colors.


Speed for "average gray" and a 640X480 image (on a 2 GHz machine)  
is about 1.1 seconds and for "gray from red" about 600 milliseconds.-


The next update of the Imagedata Toolkit, which will be the last  
with a restriction to an enforced image size of  640X480, will  
probably be released before Xmas and contain a number of major  
enhancements (among them: scripted Rev emulation of cubic  
enlargement, integration and expanding of some new Gluas filters  
from Gimp - translated into Revolution - "stretch contrast",  
"compress contrast", enhancement of "jitter" filters with various  
multi-pixel jitters, another despeckle filter based on minimum  
differences between surrounding pixel pairs [this is another Gimp/ 
Gluas development that is identical in effectiveness to the  
"median" approach, but somewhat slower], exchanging color values  
within a defined range by clicking on image and/or color scale,  
copying - and enlarging or shrinking - and pasting oval or  
rectangular portions of an image into the same or another image  
with variable fringe and/or overall blending into the basic image).


Best regards,

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Re: Any suggestions on how to "onion skinning"?

[Ian Wood]

Oh dear. Wikipedia strikes again. :-(

Those percentages are for very specific purposes and are NOT what is  
generally used in conversion to greyscale. The article isn't really  
*wrong*, but it doesn't bear much resemblance to most real-life usage.


Ian

On 29 Nov 2007, at 10:56, Luis wrote:


From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greyscale

'Converting color to grayscale

To convert any color to its most approximate level of gray, first  
one must obtain the values of its red, green and blue (RGB) primaries.


Then, add 30% of the red value, 59% of the green value, and 11% of  
the blue value, together. Regardless of the scale employed (0.0 to  
1.0, 0 to 255, 0% to 100%, etc.), the resultant number is the  
desired gray value, such that a new RGB color would have red,  
green, and blue values equal to the new number. These percentages  
are chosen due to the different relative sensitivity of the normal  
human eye to each of the primary colors (less sensitive to green,  
more to blue).'


Cheers,

Luis.


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Re: Any suggestions on how to "onion skinning"?

[Luis]

From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greyscale

'Converting color to grayscale

To convert any color to its most approximate level of gray, first one  
must obtain the values of its red, green and blue (RGB) primaries.


Then, add 30% of the red value, 59% of the green value, and 11% of  
the blue value, together. Regardless of the scale employed (0.0 to  
1.0, 0 to 255, 0% to 100%, etc.), the resultant number is the desired  
gray value, such that a new RGB color would have red, green, and blue  
values equal to the new number. These percentages are chosen due to  
the different relative sensitivity of the normal human eye to each of  
the primary colors (less sensitive to green, more to blue).'


Cheers,

Luis.


On 29 Nov 2007, at 09:54, Luis wrote:


Hiya,

Some time ago we used to add the RGB values together and then  
divide by 3. This was wy back, and the results were ok then.


I spotted this on the net:

R*.3+G*.59+B*.11 to get the grey value, haven't tried it.

Cheers,

Luis.


On 29 Nov 2007, at 00:39, Ken Ray wrote:


On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:50:11 -0200, Andre Garzia wrote:


Ken,

Have you tried snapshoting the card, then somewhere off screen  
you put

a gray image on top of the snapshot with some blend and take another
shot. Depending on ink combinations you might have a nice result.


Good idea - I'll compare that speed-wise with other suggestions  
people

have made.

Another way, which I don't know how fast it is, is to read each  
pixel

in the snapshot and convert it using some proportional gray value.


Yeah, that was Chipp's suggestion - which I might use too - took  
about

500ms on a 400x400 image on my MacBookPro.


Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
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Re: Any suggestions on how to "onion skinning"?

[Luis]

Hiya,

Some time ago we used to add the RGB values together and then divide  
by 3. This was wy back, and the results were ok then.


I spotted this on the net:

R*.3+G*.59+B*.11 to get the grey value, haven't tried it.

Cheers,

Luis.


On 29 Nov 2007, at 00:39, Ken Ray wrote:


On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:50:11 -0200, Andre Garzia wrote:


Ken,

Have you tried snapshoting the card, then somewhere off screen you  
put

a gray image on top of the snapshot with some blend and take another
shot. Depending on ink combinations you might have a nice result.


Good idea - I'll compare that speed-wise with other suggestions people
have made.


Another way, which I don't know how fast it is, is to read each pixel
in the snapshot and convert it using some proportional gray value.


Yeah, that was Chipp's suggestion - which I might use too - took about
500ms on a 400x400 image on my MacBookPro.


Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Any suggestions on how to "onion skinning"?

[Wilhelm Sanke]

Mark Smith mark at maseurope.net wrote:


This is sort of interesting:

if you simply take one of the color bytes of each pixel, and copy it  
to the other two color bytes, you get a gray-scale result. The  
brightness/contrast varies with which color you choose. For the few  
images I've tried, it seems to be red =brighter/less contrast  to  
blue= darker/more contrast. This may be no surprise to the pro image  
wranglers among us, but seemed intriguing to me.



And Chipp Walters chipp at chipp.com wrote:


Mark,

Unless you average the 3, your gray-scale result may not work
properly. Try it on an image with 3 circles: 100%R, 100%G, 100%B and
you'll see what I mean.




My experience is that with most photos you get a very nice grayscale 
image using the red pixel and copying the value to the other two pixels 
like Mark suggested.


The last public version of my "Imagedata Toolkit Preview 3" (update of 
April 17)




contains both grayscale routines using "average" and those with copying 
one color pixel to the other two - implemented for all three colors.


Speed for "average gray" and a 640X480 image (on a 2 GHz machine) is 
about 1.1 seconds and for "gray from red" about 600 milliseconds.-


The next update of the Imagedata Toolkit, which will be the last with a 
restriction to an enforced image size of  640X480, will probably be 
released before Xmas and contain a number of major enhancements (among 
them: scripted Rev emulation of cubic enlargement, integration and 
expanding of some new Gluas filters from Gimp - translated into 
Revolution - "stretch contrast", "compress contrast", enhancement of 
"jitter" filters with various multi-pixel jitters, another despeckle 
filter based on minimum differences between surrounding pixel pairs 
[this is another Gimp/Gluas development that is identical in 
effectiveness to the "median" approach, but somewhat slower], exchanging 
color values within a defined range by clicking on image and/or color 
scale, copying - and enlarging or shrinking - and pasting oval or 
rectangular portions of an image into the same or another image with 
variable fringe and/or overall blending into the basic image).


Best regards,

Wilhelm Sanke



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Quicktime callbacks?

[Chipp Walters]

Due to the fact that the QT on XP doesn't respect any of the SMIL
extension commands when used with SMIL files, I'm having to roll my
own timeslider with progress indicator.

I was wondering if there are any undocumented QT callbacks I can use
for this, or do I just have to handle the 'playStarted' and
'playStopped' messages and do a 'send in time' to update the position
of the timeline slider?

Thanks if anyone knows a better way to handle this...OR a way to
display the timeline in a WinXP player object when opening a SMIL file
(I'm pretty sure I've correctly used all the SMIL Extensions)
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Re: Any suggestions on how to "onion skinning"?

[Ian Wood]

You're extracting one of the three RGB channels.

Ian

On 29 Nov 2007, at 03:32, Mark Smith wrote:


This is sort of interesting:

if you simply take one of the color bytes of each pixel, and copy  
it to the other two color bytes, you get a gray-scale result. The  
brightness/contrast varies with which color you choose. For the few  
images I've tried, it seems to be red =brighter/less contrast  to  
blue= darker/more contrast. This may be no surprise to the pro  
image wranglers among us, but seemed intriguing to me.


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Re: [ANN] Quartz Composer tutorial

[Sakari Ruoho]

Thanks for the link.. the tutorial was really good IMO :D


Josh Mellicker wrote:
For anyone on OS X 10.4 or 10.5 who wants to watch a cool tutorial 
movie about Quartz Composer:


http://dvcreators.net/media/tiplets/complete_rayz_of_lite.mov

On OSX (only), QT has a Quartz Composer codec, you can load QC 
projects into a Player object and do amazing graphics in real-time 
tapping the power of OpenGL, Core Video and Core Image.


Since a QC (.qtz) project is just an XML file, you could make 
Revolution generate an XML file with a .qtz extension, that can then 
be loaded back into a Player object. The possibilities with this are 
staggering.


QC allows you to script graphics- for example, if you want a 3D matrix 
of 8 x 8 x 8 floating cubes with movies on each side, you need only 
make one cube and run it through a few replicate patches and a 3D 
Transformation.


QC is even a little cooler in Leopard.
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