how to print to file in landscape mode?
Does anyone know why this would not work?
on mouseUp
set the printPaperOrientation to "landscape"
set the printerOutput to "file:/home/peter/Desktop/printfile.ps"
print card "reports"
--put shell("kprinter /home/peter/Desktop/printfile.ps")
end mouseUp
I commented out the actual printing part, which works fine given that the file
is the right file to print.
What this does is print to the file ok, but in portrait.
To try to track this down, I did in the message box:
set the printPaperOrientation to "landscape"
put the printPaperOrientation
the result is landscape.
So, if the paper is landscape, why is the print to file producing a portrait
laid out ps?
This is the root of the problem. If I cannot get it to deliver a landscape
ps, then its hopeless. If I can, then there is a workaround for the printing
problems. This is 2.9 beta 5 Debian, as usual.
In hope,
Peter
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Re: how to print to file in landscape mode?
Hi Peter,
Have you tried setting the printRotated?
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On 5 mrt 2008, at 09:16, Peter Alcibiades wrote:
Does anyone know why this would not work?
on mouseUp
set the printPaperOrientation to "landscape"
set the printerOutput to "file:/home/peter/Desktop/printfile.ps"
print card "reports"
--put shell("kprinter /home/peter/Desktop/printfile.ps")
end mouseUp
I commented out the actual printing part, which works fine given
that the file
is the right file to print.
What this does is print to the file ok, but in portrait.
To try to track this down, I did in the message box:
set the printPaperOrientation to "landscape"
put the printPaperOrientation
the result is landscape.
So, if the paper is landscape, why is the print to file producing a
portrait
laid out ps?
This is the root of the problem. If I cannot get it to deliver a
landscape
ps, then its hopeless. If I can, then there is a workaround for the
printing
problems. This is 2.9 beta 5 Debian, as usual.
In hope,
Peter
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Re: Revolution Reading GPS Data
you might also be interested to read Universal Serial Bus - the easy way (4 pages) and virtual com port drivers described at: http://www.dlpdesign.com/usb-easy-way.pdf Best regards Viktoras Graham Samuel wrote: Thanks Phil for that insight. I had a quick look at your link and staggered back, appalled. It reminded me of what a gentleman named Robert Lipe said to me on another list when he thought I was trying to reverse engineer the USB interface of my device (maybe I was - I had not considered Rev in the equation at that stage and had even less idea what I was doing). His advice started off: Reverse engineering USB protocols from scratch is possible, but only if you pass the entrance exam: Repeatedly jam a fork into your left eyeball.If, after about 40 jabs, your thought is "man, this is great - my right eyeball needs a piece of this action", then reverse engineering USB protocols just might be your calling. I think I will just go back to sleep on this unless and until I can find out something more about the device I wanted to interface with. I suppose that I was seduced by the enormous number of USB-connected devices that surround me - right here where I'm sitting I can count 2 digital cameras, a printer, a scanner, a hard disk, an ADSL modem, a keyboard, three mice, a GPS training device, a SatNav, an Elgato TV receiver, a webcam, a digital storage card reader and a data key. Who knows what else I might find if I go into the other rooms in the house? And to think that the people who engineered them all had to write drivers for PCs and Macs, and (no doubt) they are all different. Compared to that, Rev programming seems so easy, doesn't it? Back to the day job. Graham On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:55:31 -0800, Phil Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Graham, Graham Samuel wrote: --- snip --- It looks to me as if my wish to create better software for it (on a Mac primarily) is pretty much a dead end - although if I can get hold of a serial-to-USB converter I might be able to experiment a bit. BTW I wonder why Rev has never entered the world of USB - I don't know about Linux, but for PCs and Macs, USB appears to be a completely standard interface and one which has been mandatory on all models of machine for many years. There must by a USB API for these operating systems - is it much more of a challenge to RunRev than the many other things they've had to incorporate? I do believe there is at least some level of demand. Graham You're certainly correct that USB is well-defined standard, evidenced by the many uses of it on all computing platforms and beyond. And as you might imagine, the USB standard is necessarily complex to do all it does. Here's a good introduction to USB: http://www.beyondlogic.org/usbnutshell/ I manage development of a system that uses a USB HID input/output device. The device has 9 backlit input keys whose lighted states and key events are managed/handled by a Rev-based app. The Rev app has no direct interface with the device driver; it interacts with the driver via a pass-through background app that provides a socket interface to the Rev app. On the Mac, the driver is actually a custom-built Kernel Extension (.kext) file; on Windows it's the Win32 version of the libUSB open-source library ( http://libusb-win32.sourceforge.net/ ). I imagine there may be better ways to implement this, but it is what it is. :o) It's the way we found we could make it work when it was initially needed. I know I haven't answered any questions here, but maybe it gives a little perspective. -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional Software Development http://pdslabs.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Start IDE with the last open stack
Bonjour Thierry, Probably you could add 'revShutDown' to the messages sent to your plugin in order to write a text file with all info needed when the user quits Rev. And restore when your plugin is loaded again at next startup. Le 5 mars 08 à 10:09, Thierry a écrit : Hello All, I have a Start-Plugin which set up few things: browse mode, close tools, set the rect of Glx2 script window,... Now, i would like to do : - open automaticaly the stack I was working on before closing the IDE - open nothing if I close the IDE with no opened stacks - and a bit more: Open all the scripts which were opened before closing the IDE again. ( Glx2 editor ) Some clue, hint or pointers for this ? Regards, Thierry Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Start IDE with the last open stack
Hello All, I have a Start-Plugin which set up few things: browse mode, close tools, set the rect of Glx2 script window,... Now, i would like to do : - open automaticaly the stack I was working on before closing the IDE - open nothing if I close the IDE with no opened stacks - and a bit more: Open all the scripts which were opened before closing the IDE again. ( Glx2 editor ) Some clue, hint or pointers for this ? Regards, Thierry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Start IDE with the last open stack
Bonjour Eric, Probably you could add 'revShutDown' to the messages sent to your plugin in order to write a text file with all info needed when the user quits Rev. And restore when your plugin is loaded again at next startup. Mais bien sur ... 'revShutDown' ! Merci :-) So, still unclear about the scripts to be restored in the Glx2 Script Editor How do I get this information ? Regards, Thierry Le 5 mars 08 à 10:09, Thierry a écrit : Hello All, I have a Start-Plugin which set up few things: browse mode, close tools, set the rect of Glx2 script window,... Now, i would like to do : - open automaticaly the stack I was working on before closing the IDE - open nothing if I close the IDE with no opened stacks - and a bit more: Open all the scripts which were opened before closing the IDE again. ( Glx2 editor ) Some clue, hint or pointers for this ? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution Reading GPS Data
On 4/3/08 10:45, Graham Samuel wrote: FWIW, the GPS device I described is marketed by a European sports retailer, Decathlon, as KeyMaze 300 GH-601. I've found out via the SiRF web site (the device uses a SiRFstarIII processor) that it is actually a rebranded GlobalSat GH-601 - this is GlobalSat of Taiwan. On the SiRF site this is further described at http://www.sirf.com/success_10.html Annoyingly the device is not described on GlobalSat's own web site (a site search reveals nothing), but strangely their FAQ pages provide a little info about downloading firmware for it etc. I suppose this means that either the thing is obsolete or else my retailer Decathlon has made an exclusive deal to market it - they are certainly selling it quite vigorously. I tried emailing GlobalSat to see if they have any more information available, but they didn't reply. I guess they don't deal with consumers. The device comes with a bit of PC software which is just about adequate, but I would not say that it was well-written or complete - its UI is crude and it doesn't even help to file all the information which it extracts from the device, and indeed it may be throwing away information (such as timestamps) which is just not visible to the user. It looks to me as if my wish to create better software for it (on a Mac primarily) is pretty much a dead end - although if I can get hold of a serial-to-USB converter I might be able to experiment a bit. ...not wishing to stop you from getting back to your day job, but you might not be completely at a dead end. AFAICT, almost all GPS devices are using SiRFStar II or III as the actual GPS chipset. (And FWIW a very large number of them are using Globalsat technology wrapped round that, regardless of the name on the box.) And at root these things output serial; so they are glued onto (I don't know much about electronics, can you tell?) a serial-USB chip in order to give them a USB interface. There seemed when I was working in this area to be two main sources of the latter: FTDI and ??Prolific?. Although the devices I was working with were Windows only, I was able to find Mac drivers for both of these things with a bit of googling on the net (because other products are using the same chipsets, and are marketed with Mac software). Once I got these installed I could simply open a "port" called /dev/cu.usbserial, and found that I was talking to the GPS device as if it was a serial device. So in fact Rev was dealing with a serial device; and the actual SiRF chipset was a serial device; there were just a few layers of bridging over USB going on between the two. So I reckon that there's a fair chance that you could establish communication with the device (though mind you I did this a couple of years ago, on a PowerPC - I've not checked whether Intel versions of these drivers are now available). However: I was dealing with basic GPS devices, no memory, interface, or anything: so was essentially just trying to talking to the SiRF chip to get the current GPS data in realtime. It sounds as though you might have a device that actually does stuff to record your trace etc when you're out and about, and then you plug it in later and extract info. In that case you're probably talking to some other piece of hardware, which has done the communication with the SiRF, stored the results, and so on; in that case the device you're actually talking to may not "talk serial", and in any case you'd have to reverse-engineer the protocol, which would presumably be proprietary (unlike the SiRF, which talks NMEA). This may not be that impossible (judging by the macam project, which has succesfully created Mac support for hundreds of digital cameras). I believe that there is a handy utility available that lets you eavesdrop on USB traffic, which might be the place to start... good luck! - Ben ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Best Windows Emulator on Mac?
I recommend http://db.tidbits.com/article/9223 for a perspective, though not a recommendation. - Ben ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution Reading GPS Data
> There seemed when I was working in this area to be two main sources of the > latter: FTDI and ??Prolific?. Although the devices I was working with were > Windows only, I was able to find Mac drivers for both of these things with a > bit of googling on the net (because other products are using the same > chipsets, and are marketed with Mac software). Once I got these installed I > could simply open a "port" called /dev/cu.usbserial, and found that I was > talking to the GPS device as if it was a serial device. So in fact Rev was > dealing with a serial device; and the actual SiRF chipset was a serial > device; > there were just a few layers of bridging over USB going on between the two. > > So I reckon that there's a fair chance that you could establish communication > with the device (though mind you I did this a couple of years ago, on a > PowerPC - I've not checked whether Intel versions of these drivers are now > available). I use FTDI serial-USB adapters at work, and I know they do come with versions that can be attached directly to a circuit board, so that is probably what is being used in these cases. There are Intel drivers available, just google FTDI drivers and see what you get. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Team Development using Run Rev
On 3/3/08 15:30, David Bovill wrote: I use a similar technique for storing stacks in SVN. When scripts are saved I have hooks which also export text files to SVN and write out metadata for indexing purposes. Hi David, Just to clarify - are these hooks in your Rev IDE, or hooks in Subversion or Eclipse? - Ben ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution Reading GPS Data
This is what I was referring to before. I was able to communicate with a few of my 'Serial' now USB devices using the same drivers from Keyspan. I noticed after install from a Kestrel device that the driver that created the Virtual Com Port was the same. I found them here : http://www.keyspan.com/downloads/homepage_pn_usa19w.spml I believe it was the 19W that worked best. I also use this to communicate to my Meade Telescope, Kestrel 4500, and Garmin GPS. HTH Tom McG On Mar 5, 2008, at 6:17 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote: There seemed when I was working in this area to be two main sources of the latter: FTDI and ??Prolific?. Although the devices I was working with were Windows only, I was able to find Mac drivers for both of these things with a bit of googling on the net (because other products are using the same chipsets, and are marketed with Mac software). Once I got these installed I could simply open a "port" called /dev/cu.usbserial, and found that I was talking to the GPS device as if it was a serial device. So in fact Rev was dealing with a serial device; and the actual SiRF chipset was a serial device; there were just a few layers of bridging over USB going on between the two. So I reckon that there's a fair chance that you could establish communication with the device (though mind you I did this a couple of years ago, on a PowerPC - I've not checked whether Intel versions of these drivers are now available). ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Start IDE with the last open stack
On Mar 5, 2008, at 4:57 AM, Thierry wrote: the scripts to be restored in the Glx2 Script Editor Doesn't GLX2 basically have this functionality built in? Or or you trying to do something different than what it does? -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
e: Revolution Reading GPS Data
Thanks Vikoras, this does look encouraging. Graham On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:57:19 +0200, viktoras didziulis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: you might also be interested to read Universal Serial Bus - the easy way (4 pages) and virtual com port drivers described at: http://www.dlpdesign.com/usb-easy-way.pdf Best regards Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Start IDE with the last open stack
Le 5 mars 08 à 16:28, Troy Rollins a écrit : On Mar 5, 2008, at 4:57 AM, Thierry wrote: the scripts to be restored in the Glx2 Script Editor Doesn't GLX2 basically have this functionality built in? Do you mean it has when restarting Rev ? If so, what did I miss ? some Prefs ? Or or you trying to do something different than what it does? Well, basically, wanting to have the same behavior as you have with firefox and tabs. Regards, Thierry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
how to print to file in landscape mode?
Mark, it says in my dictionary (2.9 beta 5) that printRotated is now deprecated and does the same as what I have used, setting to landscape mode which is preferable. What is also very odd is that when I check in the message box, the mode does indeed return landscape. It is possible, from a communication from support, that you have to use lp to print. I'm not, I'm printing to a jetdirect seemingly using socket, which has been set up in CUPS - don't quite understand all this stuff. But surely none of this should matter if we are just printing to a file? The problem is not with printing once I have the file. I can print the file fine using kprinter. The problem is generating a ps file in landscape form to print. Or does it use lp to generate the ps file? if so, there should be someplace a script to change its parameters. The problem seems to be a bit narrowed down by the discovery that in page setup invoked from the script, if you change the paper layout from portrait to landscape, the height and width measurements do not change. So this suggests an oddity in Rev's handling perhaps? Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Please Test Revolution 2.9 Beta!
At 11:21 AM -0500 3/4/08, Bill Marriott wrote: - Current Enterprise license holders may obtain the prerelease version by using the "Check for Updates..." command in the Help menu. Is the beta testing only for Enterprise users? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Please Test Revolution 2.9 Beta!
Hello Colin, > Is the beta testing only for Enterprise users? The Revolution 2.9 "Open Beta" test is open to anyone who applies at http://support.runrev.com/beta_test.php The "Check for Updates..." option is merely an additional avenue for those who have an active Enterprise license. Normally, access to prerelease versions actually *is* a benefit soley for Enterprise users, but the "Open Beta" extends this opportunity to everyone for the Revolution 2.9 cycle. Hope this helps. Bill ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Please Test Revolution 2.9 Beta!
At 11:05 AM -0500 3/5/08, Bill Marriott wrote: Normally, access to prerelease versions actually *is* a benefit soley for Enterprise users, but the "Open Beta" extends this opportunity to everyone for the Revolution 2.9 cycle. Hope this helps. It would be very helpful, if wasn't for the fact that when it first opens it insists on you entering an Enterprise registration number! My Studio number doesn't work. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Please Test Revolution 2.9 Beta!
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Re: Please Test Revolution 2.9 Beta!
Thanks Mikey and Stephen. I think I had excitedly gone straight for the DMG link, and didn't get that far down the message! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Please Test Revolution 2.9 Beta!
There should be a special reg number for the beta that you got in email. At 11:05 AM -0500 3/5/08, Bill Marriott wrote: Normally, access to prerelease versions actually *is* a benefit soley for Enterprise users, but the "Open Beta" extends this opportunity to everyone for the Revolution 2.9 cycle. Hope this helps. It would be very helpful, if wasn't for the fact that when it first opens it insists on you entering an Enterprise registration number! My Studio number doesn't work. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Team Development using Run Rev
On 05/03/2008, Ben Rubinstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 3/3/08 15:30, David Bovill wrote: > > I use a similar technique for storing stacks in SVN. When scripts are > saved > > I have hooks which also export text files to SVN and write out metadata > for > > indexing purposes. > > > Hi David, > > Just to clarify - are these hooks in your Rev IDE, or hooks in Subversion > or > Eclipse? They are in the Rev and galaxy IDE's. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Team Development using Run Rev
That's smart Mark - if I have got you right. That would make your diffs a "diff script" - that is a shorter script that you can execute on a stack to make an update? Or am I dreaming :) On 03/03/2008, Mark Wieder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > David- > > > >I use a similar technique for storing stacks in SVN. When scripts are > saved > > I have hooks which also export text files to SVN and write out metadata > > for > > indexing purposes. > > > > What I have settled on is saving a stack as a text file series of xtalk > commands for recreating it: > > create button > set the name of it to "btnCancel" > etc... > > Then I archive the previous version as only the properties that have > changed: > > set the name of button "btnCancel" to "button" > > That way I can recreate a stack quickly without having to traverse a chain > of changed properties and not have to worry about the integrity of the > archive. > > ...and voila! instant diffs. > > > -- > > Mark Wieder > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
mac emulator
Thanks to those who responded about emulation. We have decided that our user requirement is a stand alone MAC version which doesn't require them to load anything but our software, and works on all recent MAC OS versions. In our industry, 30-35% are MAC users. We will have a separate product for Windows/Vista compatible back to Windows 2000. Of course it has to look and feel identical (or as close as possible). Gee, what if we could have a single code base for both, what a concept. Is Java our only choice? Chuckle. Some within our company will say so. I guess this leaves Dot Net out in the cold? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Testing Revolution 2.9 Beta
So, fired up the new Beta and, Hey-Presto found a bug that has not been sorted out since it was reported way back with 2.7. I called it "6030" because I was naive enough to think that all pre-2.9 bugs would have been ironed out long ago as no commercial software firm likes to be seen selling buggy products do they ? so didn't do a preliminary bug search. And my wife wonders why I am such a cynic . . . sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Inbox. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Team Development / Exporting stuff to text files
Agreed as well - but in the context of your own or a relatively small groups productivity. That is it is not worth going down the path of svn or finer granularity for your own productivity, unless perhaps you and your team are already familiar with such tools and working practices based on other languages. However if you are to look at the picture at a different scale and ask - do the stack based working practices facilitate the creation of robust community resources and libraries? Then I would argue that open source tools and methodology / svn type tools have a track record in producing well tested libraries and tools which the stack based methods have singularly failed to do. A commercial market for components can work if the tool market is big enough, and open source communities can sometimes deliver such tools. It is an interesting question whether svn like tools would help create larger scale community collaborations in Rev, but I certainly agree that for the individual developer their is no productivity gain - for the community as a whole is another question. On 05/03/2008, Chipp Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Agreed 100%. > > Key word in the below sentence is "architectural". IMO, a properly > designed architecture can handle multiple programmers, each working on > their own stacks. After all, remember, one can insert 50 stack > libraries into the message path. > > best, > > > Chipp > > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Richard Gaskin > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I've thought about the type of scenarios described here, in which two > or > > more programmers may be assigned to work on the same stack, but to be > > honest to me that seems less a technical challenge than an > architectural > > and human resources one: > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Testing Revolution 2.9 Beta
Richard Gaskin wrote: "Leave it alone and it's fine." Time to read the book of Genesis again :) However, as a gnostic (c.f. geradamas) I have always favoured the snake, so always touch, examine and eat forbidden fruit; especially when there is not a big label on them saying "don't touch". Just had a go with Beta 12 inside VPC 7 with Win XP and the revFileAssociation stack did what it was meant to do, very prettily, Thankyou. I know that the RevInstaller installs different things on different operating systems (well, it would be daft if it didn't): when I click on revMacCursors I get the following message: "Stack "revCursors" is loaded instead of this stack on Windows and UNIX." so, wouldn't it be a good idea to ensure that File Association stack is not installed on a Mac? and, by the by, the spelling error "associaton" is fairly grotty regardless of which operating system it loads under. further to that Richard Gaskin wrote: "If that's the most serious issue you're facing in your work with Rev, sounds like v2.9 is pretty damn good. ;)" Actually it is not a serious issue as far as I am concerned, however cosmetic it maybe thoug, it may send odd messages to new users who do not, perhaps, have the sort of history that fat, middle-aged computer wierdos like I have where Runtime Revolution is, frankly addictive because it is so much better than anything that has gone before and most of what is available contemporaneously. And, Oh Yes, I really got a buzz being able to use "contemporaneously" :) sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Inbox. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Testing Revolution 2.9 Beta
Richard Gaskin wrote: "Leave it alone and it's fine." Time to read the book of Genesis again :) However, as a gnostic (c.f. geradamas) I have always favoured the snake, so always touch, examine and eat forbidden fruit; especially when there is not a big label on them saying "don't touch". Just had a go with Beta 12 inside VPC 7 with Win XP and the revFileAssociation stack did what it was meant to do, very prettily, Thankyou. I know that the RevInstaller installs different things on different operating systems (well, it would be daft if it didn't): when I click on revMacCursors I get the following message: "Stack "revCursors" is loaded instead of this stack on Windows and UNIX." so, wouldn't it be a good idea to ensure that File Association stack is not installed on a Mac? and, by the by, the spelling error "associaton" is fairly grotty regardless of which operating system it loads under. further to that Richard Gaskin wrote: "If that's the most serious issue you're facing in your work with Rev, sounds like v2.9 is pretty damn good. ;)" Actually it is not a serious issue as far as I am concerned, however cosmetic it maybe thoug, it may send odd messages to new users who do not, perhaps, have the sort of history that fat, middle-aged computer wierdos like I have where Runtime Revolution is, frankly addictive because it is so much better than anything that has gone before and most of what is available contemporaneously. And, Oh Yes, I really got a buzz being able to use "contemporaneously" :) sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Testing thrice
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Re: Testing Revolution 2.9 Beta
Richmond Mathewson wrote: So, fired up the new Beta and, Hey-Presto found a bug that has not been sorted out since it was reported way back with 2.7. I called it "6030" because I was naive enough to think that all pre-2.9 bugs would have been ironed out long ago as no commercial software firm likes to be seen selling buggy products do they ? so didn't do a preliminary bug search. LOL. That bug describes a circumstance in which a Rev IDE window used internally isn't being initialized if opened in the App Browser instead of how the IDE uses it. For its intended purpose it seems to work just fine; I've seen it in action in an installation not long ago. The best solution for that "bug" is to simply not open that stack in the App Browser with the expectation it'll do anything for you. Leave it alone and it's fine. If that's the most serious issue you're facing in your work with Rev, sounds like v2.9 is pretty damn good. ;) -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Testing Revolution 2.9 Beta
Richard Gaskin wrote: "Leave it alone and it's fine." Time to read the book of Genesis again :) However, as a gnostic (c.f. geradamas) I have always favoured the snake, so always touch, examine and eat forbidden fruit; especially when there is not a big label on them saying "don't touch". Just had a go with Beta 12 inside VPC 7 with Win XP and the revFileAssociation stack did what it was meant to do, very prettily, Thankyou. I know that the RevInstaller installs different things on different operating systems (well, it would be daft if it didn't): when I click on revMacCursors I get the following message: "Stack "revCursors" is loaded instead of this stack on Windows and UNIX." so, wouldn't it be a good idea to ensure that File Association stack is not installed on a Mac? and, by the by, the spelling error "associaton" is fairly grotty regardless of which operating system it loads under. further to that Richard Gaskin wrote: "If that's the most serious issue you're facing in your work with Rev, sounds like v2.9 is pretty damn good. ;)" Actually it is not a serious issue as far as I am concerned, however cosmetic it maybe thoug, it may send odd messages to new users who do not, perhaps, have the sort of history that fat, middle-aged computer wierdos like I have where Runtime Revolution is, frankly addictive because it is so much better than anything that has gone before and most of what is available contemporaneously. And, Oh Yes, I really got a buzz being able to use "contemporaneously" :) sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Start IDE with the last open stack
Thierry, GLX2 latest beta will do what you are trying to do. It remembers your last session (a preference) and also lets you store sessions and name them as "work spaces." GLX2's Work Spaces are better than Firefox in many ways because they're made for Rev developers! Opening a Work Space does not automatically show the last stack(s) you were working on, but it does display all the tabs for the scripts you were working on. Showing the stack after that is pretty simple. BTW, there is a preference for restoring the last tabs you were working on independent of using the Work Spaces feature. See some snap shots: http://daniels-mara.com/glx2/workspaces_snaps/GLX2_workspaces1.jpg - GLX2 Home Tab shows Work Spaces http://daniels-mara.com/glx2/workspaces_snaps/GLX2_workspaces2.jpg - access Work Spaces via menu http://daniels-mara.com/glx2/workspaces_snaps/GLX2_workspaces3.jpg - Work Space chooser If you're a GLX2 user and you're not on the GLX2 support site (where such discussions take place), sign up by requesting admittance via this email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best, Jerry Daniels Daniels & Mara, Inc. Makers of GLX2 http://www.daniels-mara.com/glx2 On Mar 5, 2008, at 9:41 AM, Thierry wrote: Le 5 mars 08 à 16:28, Troy Rollins a écrit : On Mar 5, 2008, at 4:57 AM, Thierry wrote: the scripts to be restored in the Glx2 Script Editor Doesn't GLX2 basically have this functionality built in? Do you mean it has when restarting Rev ? If so, what did I miss ? some Prefs ? Or or you trying to do something different than what it does? Well, basically, wanting to have the same behavior as you have with firefox and tabs. Regards, Thierry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Team Development using Run Rev
On 5/3/08 17:31, David Bovill wrote: On 05/03/2008, Ben Rubinstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 3/3/08 15:30, David Bovill wrote: I use a similar technique for storing stacks in SVN. When scripts are saved I have hooks which also export text files to SVN and write out metadata for indexing purposes. Hi David, Just to clarify - are these hooks in your Rev IDE, or hooks in Subversion or Eclipse? They are in the Rev and galaxy IDE's. Got it - thanks. - Ben ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Team Development / Exporting stuff to text files
David Bovill wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Richard Gaskin >> > I've thought about the type of scenarios described here, in >> > which two or more programmers may be assigned to work on the >> > same stack, but to be honest to me that seems less a technical >> > challenge than an architectural and human resources one >> > On 05/03/2008, Chipp Walters wrote: >> Agreed 100%. >> >> Key word in the below sentence is "architectural". IMO, a properly >> designed architecture can handle multiple programmers, each working >> on their own stacks. > > Agreed as well - but in the context of your own or a relatively small > groups productivity. That is it is not worth going down the path of > svn or finer granularity for your own productivity, unless perhaps > you and your team are already familiar with such tools and working > practices based on other languages. If you're bringing in developers familiar with other languages, the learning curve for something as simple as Magic Carpet is trivial compared to the time to learn how to use Rev itself effectively (not to mention the additional time needed to figure out a scheme for integrating Rev with something like SVN, and the day-to-day overhead inherent in using such a scheme). Rev isn't just another language. It's also an object model and file format, all bound together to create a unique way of working. I'm not sure tools designed for other languages can always be expected to integrate gracefully well a Rev workflow. Admittedly my own experience is perhaps limited, having managed xTalk-based projects with only 25 developers at most. But that's a fair number of developers, for a project whose budget was well over a million dollars. Projects of that scope are rare, but it's worth noting that it was done with a stack-based check-in/check-out, with significant cost savings to both our team and the client. That said, I suppose if we look at all possible scenarios we could find circumstances for which a finer level of granularity may have a positive ROI. We've found no significant limitations with stack-based check-in/check-out thus far, but in the infinite range of all possibilities I can't rule out that we might be able to lower our costs even more with a different way of working. Chipp's Magic Carpet is a very capable stack-level tool available now, and being such a with-the-grain way of working with Rev it's not too hard to craft on of your own if you need to. If tools supporting a finer level of granularity exist and are demonstrated to provide a higher ROI than the many projects delivered with stack-based tools, I'd certainly be interested in checking them out (if you'll pardon the pun). -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution Reading GPS Data
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my cursor shows as all black
Hi all, My cursor shows as all black when using it in a stack. I can't get it to show as the original image - black and white. I know there's a set of cursors out there, but I'd like to create my own for the WinXP OS. This is what I've done: First I looked at the RunRev revCursors stack to see how the image was created - a 32x32 gif format. So I created my cursor 32x32 pixels with just black and white and with transparency and saved it as a gif file. I imported the image and used the img id in the "set cursor to 1008" in the script. The script works by setting the cursor, but the image is all black, and not white and black like I created it. What am I doing wrong? Thanx, Mark Stuart -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/my-cursor-shows-as-all-black-tp15860638p15860638.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Start IDE with the last open stack
Le 5 mars 08 à 20:55, Jerry Daniels a écrit : Thierry, GLX2 latest beta will do what you are trying to do. It remembers your last session (a preference) and also lets you store sessions and name them as "work spaces." Great ! It works perfectly :-) Regards, Thierry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Team Development / Exporting stuff to text files
On 05/03/2008, Richard Gaskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > David Bovill wrote: > > > That said, I suppose if we look at all possible scenarios we could find > circumstances for which a finer level of granularity may have a positive > ROI. We've found no significant limitations with stack-based > check-in/check-out thus far, but in the infinite range of all > possibilities I can't rule out that we might be able to lower our costs > even more with a different way of working. Richard - I don't think you got the point of what i was trying to say. I am agreeing with you. There is no ROI for finer granularity approaches - in any circumstance. 100% agreement on that. What I am trying to say is that the approach of open source development is not one of ROI - it is a loss to the developer, gained back if ever indirectly in terms of peer reputation. I am argueing for svn like tools not based on ROI for the developer but ROI at the community level. SVN like tools support the sacrifice in terms of productivity that a developer gives when engaging in open source development to make this sacrifice tolerable. I am saying that current stack based approaches are not succeeding over many many years in producing collaboratively evolved high quality libraries or tools. This is in stark contrast to projects that do use svn like tools - there is a reason to think that there may be a link between these factors. Though it is definitely not the only reason. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Team Development / Exporting stuff to text files
Richard, thanks...couldn't have said it better..but I will add a footnote... David, another point to understand is the recompilation of a complete stack from text files, is a very difficult, if not impossible task to undertake. I should know. I worked with David Johnson for over a year on a sharing toolkit (RevShare) which allowed users to update in realtime each others projects over the internet. It was a complex issue and one where I concluded it could not be done solely via text data. In particular, IIRC, the following properties couldn't be trusted to always convert exactly: "id" "visited" "layer" "armed" "htmlText" Perhaps there were more. But creating a perfect copy of a control on one stack from a text string from another stack was difficult. I had an object checksum function, and I had to remove the above properties from it as I could not depend on accurate control management without. Not to mention all of the images, movies, etc..which would need to be managed as well. All in all, I doubt one will find a better 'container' for managing such stuff than the stack itself. Furthermore, if open source was such a grand concept for the Rev community as a whole, why haven't we seen more of it? My personal opinion, is like many of my plugins, and other free Rev stuff, they really only need a single person to code it. Many moons ago, Richard, Jacque and myself tried to create a 'team approach' to creating a new property editor-- I believe we ended up each rolling our own. That said, the MetaCard project, I suppose could be included as a successful open source project, but it was pretty much well on it's way BEFORE being open sourced. -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Please Test Revolution 2.9 Beta!
what are u doing all this stuff so go away with all the junk> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 11:24:31 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com> Subject: Re: Please Test Revolution 2.9 Beta!> > You should have received an email with a temporary registration number.> ___> use-revolution mailing list> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution _ New music from the Rogue Traders - listen now! http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=click&clientID=832&referral=hotmailtaglineOct07&URL=http://music.ninemsn.com.au/roguetraders___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Please Test Revolution 2.9 Beta!
Riley, You really need some carriage returns. Just click the last line of the email to unsub... no need to freak out ... what are u doing all this stuff so go away with all the junk> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 11:24:31 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com> Subject: Re: Please Test Revolution 2.9 Beta!> > You should have received an email with a temporary registration number.> ___> use-revolution mailing list> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution _ New music from the Rogue Traders - listen now! http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=click&clientID=832&referral=hotmailtaglineOct07&URL=http://music.ninemsn.com.au/roguetraders___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: Sample Scripts Stack 1.0.7
Hello, The problem reported by Stephen has been fixed. The problem, which rendered all links broken, appeared to be specific to the Sarafi web browser. The site http://runrev.com works fine now. Apologies for any inconvenience. Thanks for notifying me, Stephen! Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Convert colours between different colour spaces with Color Converter. Download at http://economy-x-talk.com/cc.html On 4 mrt 2008, at 23:59, Mark Schonewille wrote: You're welcome. Which link caused a problem, exactly, Stephen? Op 4-mrt-2008, om 23:57 heeft Stephen Barncard het volgende geschreven: Thanks for sharing, Mark. There seemed to be a problem with the links to search... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: Sample Scripts Stack 1.0.7
I saw it when I sent the message... obviously runrev.com works fine, it always does. I meant to say that http://runrev.info works fine! Sorry for the confusion. Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Convert colours between different colour spaces with Color Converter. Download at http://economy-x-talk.com/cc.html On 5 mrt 2008, at 23:11, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hello, The problem reported by Stephen has been fixed. The problem, which rendered all links broken, appeared to be specific to the Sarafi web browser. The site http://runrev.com works fine now. Apologies for any inconvenience. Thanks for notifying me, Stephen! Best regards, Mark Schonewille ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Team Development using Run Rev
David- > That's smart Mark - if I have got you right. That would make your diffs a > "diff script" - that is a shorter script that you can execute on a stack > to > make an update? Or am I dreaming :) You could do it that way (and it would be easier to archive them that way) but I went the other way around: executing the latest script builds the most recent object, and traversing the deltas backwards in time reverts to a previous version. That way I don't have to worry about the chain integrity losing my entire backup. If you started with the full build script and then just stored delta scripts you could indeed update stacks that way. And diffs would still work. But... if anything along the way got messed up you'd have no way of building the delta chain to get to the most recent version. -- Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: my cursor shows as all black
Hi Mark, Steve Goldberg created a set of cursors and made a standalone application containing a recipe to make cursors. You can find it on the Economy-x-Talk homepage. Click on Developers in the sidebar on the left and scroll down to halfway the page. I hope it helps. Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Convert colours between different colour spaces with Color Converter. Download at http://economy-x-talk.com/cc.html On 5 mrt 2008, at 22:22, mfstuart wrote: Hi all, My cursor shows as all black when using it in a stack. I can't get it to show as the original image - black and white. I know there's a set of cursors out there, but I'd like to create my own for the WinXP OS. This is what I've done: First I looked at the RunRev revCursors stack to see how the image was created - a 32x32 gif format. So I created my cursor 32x32 pixels with just black and white and with transparency and saved it as a gif file. I imported the image and used the img id in the "set cursor to 1008" in the script. The script works by setting the cursor, but the image is all black, and not white and black like I created it. What am I doing wrong? Thanx, Mark Stuart ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: my cursor shows as all black
Hi Mark, I don't have PhotoShop (as Steve mentions to use), I have Axialis' IconWorkshop. I downloaded there Cursor Workshop 4.5, but the only Save As file type is *.cur. So I'm trying all different ways to save the image file in IconWorkshop, but still the black image result. When I save as .png, and use it in RunRev, it crashes. Anyone using Axialis' IconWorkshop and able to get the correct results for cursors? Thanx, Mark Stuart Mark Schonewille-3 wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > Steve Goldberg created a set of cursors and made a standalone > application containing a recipe to make cursors. You can find it on > the Economy-x-Talk homepage. Click on Developers in the sidebar on the > left and scroll down to halfway the page. I hope it helps. > > Best regards, > > Mark Schonewille > > -- > > Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering > http://economy-x-talk.com > http://www.salery.biz > > Convert colours between different colour spaces with Color Converter. > Download at http://economy-x-talk.com/cc.html > > > > On 5 mrt 2008, at 22:22, mfstuart wrote: > >> >> Hi all, >> My cursor shows as all black when using it in a stack. I can't get >> it to >> show as the original image - black and white. >> >> I know there's a set of cursors out there, but I'd like to create my >> own for >> the WinXP OS. >> >> This is what I've done: >> First I looked at the RunRev revCursors stack to see how the image was >> created - a 32x32 gif format. >> So I created my cursor 32x32 pixels with just black and white and with >> transparency and saved it as a gif file. >> I imported the image and used the img id in the "set cursor to 1008" >> in the >> script. >> The script works by setting the cursor, but the image is all black, >> and not >> white and black like I created it. >> >> What am I doing wrong? >> >> Thanx, >> Mark Stuart > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/my-cursor-shows-as-all-black-tp15860638p15864011.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: my cursor shows as all black
mfstuart wrote: Hi Mark, I don't have PhotoShop (as Steve mentions to use), I have Axialis' IconWorkshop. I downloaded there Cursor Workshop 4.5, but the only Save As file type is *.cur. So I'm trying all different ways to save the image file in IconWorkshop, but still the black image result. When I save as .png, and use it in RunRev, it crashes. Anyone using Axialis' IconWorkshop and able to get the correct results for cursors? I don't think you can use that software. You need an image editor that will allow you to assign the correct number of colors, and set the order of the color lookup table. Your image must have only three colors in it, and the order in which they appear in the color lookup table is important. The three colors must be black, white, and any other color, the third of which you assign as the transparent color. I had to make a number of cursors for Cosmic Osmo and I used Graphic Converter (Mac OS X) to do it. GC allows you to assign the order of the colors in the color palette. Unfortunately I can't offhand recall which color has to be first, second, and third, but I vaguely recall the transparent color has to be third. Whether the first is black or white is what I've since forgotten, so you'd need to experiment. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: my cursor shows as all black
Hi again Jacqueline, I looked at the browse.gif image on the revCursors stack in RunRev. It shows on the Colors & Patterns properties that the First Color is black, Second Color is white. I tried applying the same colors on my gif image after importing it into RunRev, but didn't help. In IconWorkshop, before exporting an image to gif, there are 3-4 options to set. I'll continue playing with those settings, because I just bought this software online. Got to be able to pay for it some how. Is GC available for WinXP? Mark Stuart J. Landman Gay wrote: > > mfstuart wrote: >> Hi Mark, >> I don't have PhotoShop (as Steve mentions to use), I have Axialis' >> IconWorkshop. >> I downloaded there Cursor Workshop 4.5, but the only Save As file type is >> *.cur. >> So I'm trying all different ways to save the image file in IconWorkshop, >> but >> still the black image result. >> When I save as .png, and use it in RunRev, it crashes. >> >> Anyone using Axialis' IconWorkshop and able to get the correct results >> for >> cursors? > > I don't think you can use that software. You need an image editor that > will allow you to assign the correct number of colors, and set the order > of the color lookup table. Your image must have only three colors in it, > and the order in which they appear in the color lookup table is > important. The three colors must be black, white, and any other color, > the third of which you assign as the transparent color. > > I had to make a number of cursors for Cosmic Osmo and I used Graphic > Converter (Mac OS X) to do it. GC allows you to assign the order of the > colors in the color palette. Unfortunately I can't offhand recall which > color has to be first, second, and third, but I vaguely recall the > transparent color has to be third. Whether the first is black or white > is what I've since forgotten, so you'd need to experiment. > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/my-cursor-shows-as-all-black-tp15860638p15867003.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
