Re: focus in field problem

[Scott Morrow]

Hello Nicolas,
What about something like:

on openField
  select after last character of the target
end openField


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On Jun 22, 2008, at 10:23 PM, Nicolas Cueto wrote:


According to the documentation for the "focus" command:

"If the object is an unlocked field, the insertion point is placed
after the text in the field."

I tried this command with an unlocked field and the flashing
insertion point does appear in the field, but it appears before
the the first word in the field rather than, as the docs say,
after the text in the field.

Is there another way of controlling where the insertion
point appears in a field?

Thank you.

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focus in field problem

[Nicolas Cueto]

According to the documentation for the "focus" command:

"If the object is an unlocked field, the insertion point is placed
after the text in the field."

I tried this command with an unlocked field and the flashing
insertion point does appear in the field, but it appears before
the the first word in the field rather than, as the docs say,
after the text in the field.

Is there another way of controlling where the insertion
point appears in a field?

Thank you.

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Re: Table field and fonts

[Paul Looney]

Bill,
Bring up the Property Inspector for the stack.
In the last panel you can choose text properties for that stack.
Not all fonts work well on both Mac and Windows.
I use Verdana  - but there are other good choices.
Paul Looney
PS Also be cautious; if the field has some text settings, global  
stack settings will not override them - of course. But it is possible  
to accidentally create text settings for a field - just by opening  
the Property Inspector for the field it will pickup the current  
global stack settings - and, if you change the stack settings later,  
the field settings still remain.

PPS I hope your part of town is cooler than mine this evening.


On Jun 22, 2008, at 8:18 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote:

I notice that the grid on a table field only shows if the text is  
fixed height even though there is a check box in the Table property  
to show baselines.


Is there a way to show row divisions with a non-fixed height table  
field?


The real issue is that I have a program that looks fine on my Mac  
and Windows computer but some Windows users are reporting lots of  
different problems with fonts.


Is there a way to set the default font and size for a stack? I'm  
letting Rev pick them and they don't match very well between  
platforms.


Bill Vlahos
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Table field and fonts

[Bill Vlahos]

I notice that the grid on a table field only shows if the text is  
fixed height even though there is a check box in the Table property to  
show baselines.


Is there a way to show row divisions with a non-fixed height table  
field?


The real issue is that I have a program that looks fine on my Mac and  
Windows computer but some Windows users are reporting lots of  
different problems with fonts.


Is there a way to set the default font and size for a stack? I'm  
letting Rev pick them and they don't match very well between platforms.


Bill Vlahos
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Re: GUID generator

[Richard Gaskin]

Ken Ray wrote:


Shao Sean wrote:

Only works in Rev 2.8 or greater

_internal call "generate_uuid"
put the result


Cool.  Where is that documented?


It's not... it's one of those undocumented internal commands used by the Rev
IDE (of which I'm sure there are more than just that one). The `_internal
call "generate_uuid"` comes from the standalone building process (FYI).


I'm guessing that something was written somewhere to allow Shao Sean to 
have discovered this.  Seems unlikely the result of random typing.


Where was that discovered, and what other goodies can be found there?

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Re: Where is the web site?

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi James,

Are you looking for something like this?

on mouseUp
   select word clickedWord() of me
end mouseUp

function clickedWord
   put the clickChunk into myChunk
   return number of words of \
   (char 1 to (word 2 of myChunk) of the text of the target)
end clickedWord

Put the mouseUp handler into the script of a field, put the  
clickedWord function somewhere higher up the message hierarchy or in  
the same field script.


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On 22 jun 2008, at 20:18, James Hurley wrote:

It's election time and I'm working with  election files with lots of  
lines--thousands.


For reasons I won't go into, I need a function like: ClickWord which  
will return something  like:


Word 2 of line 3 of field 4

It would be something like "ClickLine" only it returns the word  
number as well. ClickChunk is close but no cigar.


Seems like this would be a natural for  RunRev, but I have forgotten  
how to make the enhancement request.


Anybody? Where is the RunRev web site?

Jim Hurley

P.S.

My kludge of this looks like:

function theClickWord
 -- this function returns: word tWordNo of line tLineNo  of field  
tFieldNo

 put the clickLine into tClickLine
 put word 2 of tClickline into tLineNo
 put last word of tClickLine into tFieldNo
 put the value of tClickLine into tLineText
 put the clickText into tWord
 put wordoffset(tWord,tLineText) into tWordNo
 --Just to see how it might look if implemented in RunRev
 put "word " & tWordNo & " of line " & tLineNo & " of field "&  
tFieldNo into msg box

 return tWordNo, tLineNo, tFieldNo
end theClickWord



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Re: Where is the web site?

[Wilhelm Sanke]

On Sun Jun 22, 2008, James Hurley jhurley0305 at sbcglobal.net wrote:

For reasons I won't go into, I need a function like: ClickWord which  
will return something  like:


Word 2 of line 3 of field 4

It would be something like "ClickLine" only it returns the word  
number as well. ClickChunk is close but no cigar.


Seems like this would be a natural for  RunRev, but I have forgotten  
how to make the enhancement request.


Anybody? Where is the RunRev web site?

Jim Hurley

P.S.

My kludge of this looks like:

function theClickWord
   -- this function returns: word tWordNo of line tLineNo  of field  
tFieldNo

   put the clickLine into tClickLine
   put word 2 of tClickline into tLineNo
   put last word of tClickLine into tFieldNo
   put the value of tClickLine into tLineText
   put the clickText into tWord
   put wordoffset(tWord,tLineText) into tWordNo
   --Just to see how it might look if implemented in RunRev
   put "word " & tWordNo & " of line " & tLineNo & " of field "&  
tFieldNo into msg box

   return tWordNo, tLineNo, tFieldNo
end theClickWord



The website for reporting bugs and enhancements is

 or


I second you enhancement request.

Your "kludge"-solution is surely one of the best you can come up with in 
Revolution. The only problem you could encounter is the case when the 
text of the line contains more than one instance of the word, because 
wordoffset always finds the *first* instance of the word and not 
necessarily the word you clicked at.


In a related context - getting the wordnumber of a clicked-at word in a 
field and at the same time hilite the clicked word - I have found the 
following solution:


Script of the text field:

on mouseUp
 Global gchunk, gtext
 put the mousechunk into gchunk
 put the mousetext into gtext
 send "mouseup" to btn "wordoffset"
end mouseUp

Script of btn "wordoffset":

on mouseUp
 Global gchunk, gtext
 put fld 1 into tField
 put tfield into tfield2
 put word 2 of gchunk into tBegin
 put "#" before char tBegin of Tfield2
 put "#" before gtext
 put wordoffset(gtext,tfield2) into tword
 put "word" &&tword&&"in field 1" into fld "wordnumber"
 set the traversalon of fld 1 to true
 select word tword of fld 1
end mouseUp

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OT: Resurgence of Indian Games

[Richmond Mathewson]

Thank you very much, Sivakatirswami,

I don't know about computer games; but those games will be absolute naturals 
for my EFL kids to use when practising how to write instructions; and when they 
have finished they will have games that will keep them away from the 'demon' 
television and the more moronic shoot-out computer games!

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson.



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Re: GUID generator

[Ken Ray]

> Shao Sean wrote:
>> Only works in Rev 2.8 or greater
>> 
>> _internal call "generate_uuid"
>> put the result
> 
> Cool.  Where is that documented?

It's not... it's one of those undocumented internal commands used by the Rev
IDE (of which I'm sure there are more than just that one). The `_internal
call "generate_uuid"` comes from the standalone building process (FYI).

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Where is the web site?

[James Hurley]

It's election time and I'm working with  election files with lots of  
lines--thousands.


For reasons I won't go into, I need a function like: ClickWord which  
will return something  like:


Word 2 of line 3 of field 4

It would be something like "ClickLine" only it returns the word  
number as well. ClickChunk is close but no cigar.


Seems like this would be a natural for  RunRev, but I have forgotten  
how to make the enhancement request.


Anybody? Where is the RunRev web site?

Jim Hurley

P.S.

My kludge of this looks like:

function theClickWord
  -- this function returns: word tWordNo of line tLineNo  of field  
tFieldNo

  put the clickLine into tClickLine
  put word 2 of tClickline into tLineNo
  put last word of tClickLine into tFieldNo
  put the value of tClickLine into tLineText
  put the clickText into tWord
  put wordoffset(tWord,tLineText) into tWordNo
  --Just to see how it might look if implemented in RunRev
  put "word " & tWordNo & " of line " & tLineNo & " of field "&  
tFieldNo into msg box

  return tWordNo, tLineNo, tFieldNo
end theClickWord
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Re: GUID generator

[Björnke von Gierke]

On 22 Jun 2008, at 19:26, Richard Gaskin wrote:


Shao Sean wrote:

Only works in Rev 2.8 or greater
_internal call "generate_uuid"
put the result


Cool.  Where is that documented?


Seeing how internal is even "obsfucated" by using a underscore, i'd  
bet nowhere :)



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Re: GUID generator

[Richard Gaskin]

Shao Sean wrote:

Only works in Rev 2.8 or greater

_internal call "generate_uuid"
put the result


Cool.  Where is that documented?


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Re: GUID generator

[Shao Sean]

Only works in Rev 2.8 or greater

_internal call "generate_uuid"
put the result
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Re: Help with basic CGI project?

[J. Landman Gay]

Sadhunathan Nadesan wrote:


What if you want to create a file that is more permanent in nature,
that can be overwritten by a CGI, and that can be accessed by anyone?

Will this raise cries of security hole, red flag, dangerous no-no?

Solution?:

Is there a security guide to creating such a directory/full path to file
"place"  such that it's ok for a CGI to write there, to keep the files
around permanently, and for an arbitrary user (who has log in permission
or file share permission, such as via SAMBA), to have access?


I think you can place the file wherever you like. The engine is secure 
when used as a cgi, provided your scripts don't do anything to breach 
that security. Here is a repost of a similar question and the reply from 
Scott Raney, back when the engine was still MetaCard:


A user wrote:

in any case MC hasnt been rigorously analysed for buffer-overrun
attacks afaik.  Not only should you be cautious about using it for
sensitive data, but also on any virtual file system with sensative
or mission critical data, unless you are very sure that the
permissions DONT allow it to write to disk, or read sensative
data. still the active copy *in ram* may be rewritten, and you dont
want to run MC out of inetd!


Certainly paranoia is warranted here, but you should keep in mind that
the average cobbled-together MetaCard server is going to be safer, at
least WRT to buffer-overrun security problems (the easiest to exploit
and most dangerous kind), than virtually any current open-source
server program.  This is obviously the case when compared with the
FTP, HTTP, and BIND servers that are running on the majority of
Internet hosts out there, all of which have multiple security holes
like this, one of the buffer-overrun bugs in BIND (the DNS server)
being the single most commonly exploited security hole in any server
software.


any door can be broken, with a lever long, and strong enough, but
dont leave the door open.


With MetaCard your primary (and probably exclusive) risk would be in
executing commands or evaluating expressions that come from untrusted
sources.  Any use of the "do" and "send" commands or the "value"
function should be very diligently evaluated to make sure that there
is no possibility of this occuring.  Of course, you also have to be
careful about where you write files, but it's a relatively simple
matter to check a path for validity (e.g., don't allow a leading 
"/", or the "..", ":", or "~" characters anywhere in a path).



MC was built (in the image of HC) to make GUIs and be an OO database
with advanced scripting capabilities, it now includes inet_socket
functionality. do not assume that just because you can, you
should. There are tried and true methods of sharing files
SCP2,FTP,HTTP don't reinvent the wheel unnessesarily.  write
software to co-ordinate these underlying transactions to provide a
nice GUI to people who need to access data without learning how
technology works.  keeps development time down, and reduces the
complexity of your product, while reasuring the customers (end
users) of compatability.


I certainly wouldn't rule out building or using MetaCard server
software, even for protocols for which well-known (if buggy) open
source software is widely available.  While I don't see any big
advantage to writing an FTP server in MetaCard, an HTTP server that
executes CGI scripts is a different matter entirely and an area where
a MetaCard server could be safer and feature-competitive with any of
the alternatives.


yes i am the first to admit i am rather opinionated on some of the
issues here, that dosnt make me right/wrong.


I've got a soap box here too, and in *my* opinion, the ubiquity of
buffer-overrun bugs in open source software rises to the level of
criminal negligence.  There is just no excuse for this kind of sloppy
programming, yet not a week goes by that yet another example of this
kind of thing isn't found in one of the commonly used open-source
packages.  I wouldn't blindly trust Microsoft software either, but at
least the majority of the security holes in their products were put
there deliberately to improve the usability of the products rather
than as the result of poor security hygiene on the part of the
developer.

My advice is to not be afraid of this stuff.  Sure, you have to be
careful, but you can hardly do any worse a job than those hacks who
are writing the software that runs the Internet ;-)







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Re: Setting Location of a Stack Relative to Location of AnotherStack

[Steven Axtell]

Thanks Klaus.  The information was helpful.

Steve

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Re: Problem with send command???

[Dave]

Hi,

Yes, I could understand it if it were using in the  clause, but  
I'm not. If so do this:



on TestIt @theArray,theValue
  put 123 into theArray["Dave"]
end TestIt


on mouseUp
  local myDoStatement
  local mySendStatement
  local myArray

  put empty into myArray
  put "TestIt myArray,1" into myDoStatement

  do myDoStatement
end mouseUp


It works ok, but what I want to be able to do is to have the command  
sent to a different object as in:


put the long id of field "xyz" into myHandlerLocation

send "TestIt myArray,1" to myHandlerLocation

Is there no way of doing this in RunRev?

All the Best
Dave


On 22 Jun 2008, at 15:39, Mark Schonewille wrote:


Hi Klaus,

I tried that while you wrote it. It doesn't work. I believe the  
send command just is't capable of setting variables by reference.  
This seems logical, if you think of what would be happening if you  
add "in 0 millisecs".


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On 22 jun 2008, at 16:33, Klaus Major wrote:


I think yo have to create a variable first before you can  
reference it.


Try this:

on mouseUp
local myArray
put empty into myArray
send "TestIt myArray,1"  to me
end mouseUp



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Re: Problem with send command???

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Klaus,

I tried that while you wrote it. It doesn't work. I believe the send  
command just is't capable of setting variables by reference. This  
seems logical, if you think of what would be happening if you add "in  
0 millisecs".


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On 22 jun 2008, at 16:33, Klaus Major wrote:


I think yo have to create a variable first before you can reference  
it.


Try this:

on mouseUp
local myArray
put empty into myArray
send "TestIt myArray,1"  to me
end mouseUp



Regards

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Re: Problem with send command???

[Klaus Major]

Hi Dave,


Hi,

The following gives an execution error on the send command. I'm  
guessing it because of the "@" usage. Is it not possible to call a  
handler in this manner?


All the Best
Dave

on TestIt @theArray,theValue
 put 123 into theArray["Dave"]
end TestIt


on mouseUp
 local myArray

 send "TestIt myArray,1"  to me
end mouseUp


I think yo have to create a variable first before you can reference it.

Try this:

on mouseUp
 local myArray
 put empty into myArray
 send "TestIt myArray,1"  to me
end mouseUp



Regards

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Re: Setting Location of a Stack Relative to Location of AnotherStack

[Steven Axtell]

Dave,

Thanks a bunch.

Steve


- Original Message - 
From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "How to use Revolution" 
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: Setting Location of a Stack Relative to Location of 
AnotherStack




Hi,

This should do it:

put the rect of stack "DEF" into myRect
add 20 to item 1 of myRect
add 20 to item 2 of myRect
add 20 to item 3 of myRect
add 20 to item 4 of myRect
set the rect of stack "ABC" to myRect

All the Best
Dave


On 22 Jun 2008, at 15:09, Steven Axtell wrote:

Is there a way to set the location of a stack relative the location  of 
another stack?  I know the following code is not correct (Rev  applied it 
but did nothing with it), but I'm trying to do something  like this:


set the location of stack "ABC" to 20,20 from the location of stack 
"DEF"


Thanks,

Steve Axtell
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Re: Setting Location of a Stack Relative to Location of Another Stack

[Klaus Major]

Hi Steven,

Is there a way to set the location of a stack relative the location  
of another stack?  I know the following code is not correct (Rev  
applied it but did nothing with it), but I'm trying to do something  
like this:


set the location of stack "ABC" to 20,20 from the location of stack  
"DEF"


...
set itemdel to ","
## in case this is set to something else...

put the loc of stack "DEF" into old_loc
add 20 to item 1 of old_loc
add 20 to item 2 of old_loc
set the loc of stack "ABC" to old_loc
...

Hope that helps.


Thanks,

Steve Axtell


Best

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Re: Setting Location of a Stack Relative to Location of Another Stack

[Dave]

Hi,

This should do it:

put the rect of stack "DEF" into myRect
add 20 to item 1 of myRect
add 20 to item 2 of myRect
add 20 to item 3 of myRect
add 20 to item 4 of myRect
set the rect of stack "ABC" to myRect

All the Best
Dave


On 22 Jun 2008, at 15:09, Steven Axtell wrote:

Is there a way to set the location of a stack relative the location  
of another stack?  I know the following code is not correct (Rev  
applied it but did nothing with it), but I'm trying to do something  
like this:


set the location of stack "ABC" to 20,20 from the location of stack  
"DEF"


Thanks,

Steve Axtell
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Problem with send command???

[Dave]

Hi,

The following gives an execution error on the send command. I'm  
guessing it because of the "@" usage. Is it not possible to call a  
handler in this manner?


All the Best
Dave

on TestIt @theArray,theValue
  put 123 into theArray["Dave"]
end TestIt


on mouseUp
  local myArray

  send "TestIt myArray,1"  to me
end mouseUp

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Setting Location of a Stack Relative to Location of Another Stack

[Steven Axtell]

Is there a way to set the location of a stack relative the location of another 
stack?  I know the following code is not correct (Rev applied it but did 
nothing with it), but I'm trying to do something like this:

set the location of stack "ABC" to 20,20 from the location of stack "DEF"

Thanks,

Steve Axtell
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Re: animationEngine examples - error

[-= JB =-]

Okay, thanks for the fast reply.

-=>JB<=-


On Jun 22, 2008, at 3:22 AM, Malte Brill wrote:


Hi JB,

that was a rather stupid mistake of me.

/* Note to self: You should now by now that one can not copy from a  
password protected stack. :-( */


Will get that fixed once back in the office. As I will need to  
think about how I solve this is might be a while until the fixed  
version is up.


Thanks for the report!

All the best,

Malte


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Re: animationEngine examples - error

[Malte Brill]

Hi JB,

that was a rather stupid mistake of me.

/* Note to self: You should now by now that one can not copy from a  
password protected stack. :-( */


Will get that fixed once back in the office. As I will need to think  
about how I solve this is might be a while until the fixed version is  
up.


Thanks for the report!

All the best,

Malte


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