Re: the standard C++ library

[-= JB =-]

When I said Lesson-1 it was in reference to Writing Externals Lesson-1
from the Rev news article.

I am wondering what limitations there are to using the full power of C++
within an external and where I can get the most updated library & docs
that will help me include the C++ library within a OS X Rev external.

-=>JB<=-



On Jul 1, 2008, at 8:25 PM, -= JB =- wrote:

In the FAQ section of lesson-1 it mentions we can use the standard C 
++ library.
I have a pre OSX version of Codewarrior which includes some good  
doc files.
What is a good resource for C and C++ for OS X.  Is there a big  
difference with

comparison to the pre OSX Codewarrior docs.

Can just about anything be done from within an Rev external or what  
are the

limitations?

-=>JB<=-
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the standard C++ library

[-= JB =-]

In the FAQ section of lesson-1 it mentions we can use the standard C+ 
+ library.
I have a pre OSX version of Codewarrior which includes some good doc  
files.
What is a good resource for C and C++ for OS X.  Is there a big  
difference with

comparison to the pre OSX Codewarrior docs.

Can just about anything be done from within an Rev external or what  
are the

limitations?

-=>JB<=-
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Re: OSX Authentication box

[Kay C Lan]

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Richard Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> This works fine on my older MacBook using 10.4.11, but for whatever reason,
> it doesn't work on a newer desktop Mac (also using 10.4.11).


I forgot to ask. Does it work if you run in AppleScript Editor? ie outside
of Rev.
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Re: OSX Authentication box

[Kay C Lan]

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Richard Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> This works fine on my older MacBook using 10.4.11, but for whatever reason,
> it doesn't work on a newer desktop Mac (also using 10.4.11). It just ignores
> the Applescript "return" command and leaves the Authentication dialog box
> open. ("Enable Access for Assistive Devices" is turned on.)
>
>
I just tried this on a Intel MacBook Pro with 10.5.3 and it works fine.

There must be another reason why the 'new' mac is not recognising the
return, unfortunately I can't provide any suggestion :-(

I assume the mac you need this to run is the one that isn't recognising the
keystroke?
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Re: Externals API calls

[-= JB =-]

Thanks for the info Trevor

-=>JB<=-



On Jul 1, 2008, at 7:46 AM, Trevor DeVore wrote:


On Jul 1, 2008, at 10:39 AM, -= JB =- wrote:

Where can I find a list of all Revolution Externals API calls so I  
can

see what all can be used in externals for Rev?


In the root directory where you create your externals (assuming you  
used "External Creator X.rev") there is a folder called  
libexternal. Look in the src directory and you will find external.c  
and external.h. Take a look at external.h.


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Re: WPAD and DHCP Servers

[Trevor DeVore]

On Jul 1, 2008, at 4:11 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote:


Hi Trevor.

Are you trying to set the TCP stack on the local machine to use DHCP  
or are you trying to make an actual DHCP server IN Revolution?


...

Sorry if I am missing what you are trying to do.


Hi Bob,

I'm trying to implement the DHCP discovery portion of the WPAD  
protocol  from within Revolution.  
On a network where the WPAD protocol is implemented the network  
administrator can have the DHCP server respond to "option 252"  
communicated using the DHCPInform message. The response from the DHCP  
server is the url where the PAC file is that should be used for  
determining the proxy server IP address that should be used for  
outgoing connections.


Currently on networks that use WPAD Revolution applications cannot  
connect to the internet.


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Re: WPAD and DHCP Servers

[Robert Sneidar]

Hi Trevor.

Are you trying to set the TCP stack on the local machine to use DHCP  
or are you trying to make an actual DHCP server IN Revolution?


To set the TCP stack on Macs in a terminal session you would use:

networksetup -setdhcp 
networksetup -setdnsservers   #  
(the empty is for automatic DNS from the DHCP server)


Replace  with the name of the device such as "Built-in  
Ethnernet" or "AirPort". Note that these services are cASE sENSITIVE.  
If there are spaces enclose in quotes. I usually just use quotes all  
the time. Can't screw it up that way.


I think you may have trouble though if the current user is not an  
Admin, in which case you will have to use sudo networksetup -setdhcp  
 and it will probably want the password the first time  
you use sudo in that session.


for PC's in a command window use:

netsh interface ip set address name= source=dhcp

Again, you have to be logged in as an administrator. I am not sure  
what the DNS command is, but you can use


netsh interface ip /?

to get more info.

Sorry if I am missing what you are trying to do.

Bob Sneidar
IT Manager
Logos Management
Calvary Chapel CM

On Jun 30, 2008, at 3:30 AM, Trevor DeVore wrote:


On Jun 29, 2008, at 2:59 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote:

Hi Trevor. See http://www.comptechdoc.org/independent/networking/guide/netdhcp.html 
 for a basic treatment of the issue.


You use the global broadcast address for DHCP which is  
255.255.255.255 as the source and 0.0.0.0 as the destination. (I  
have seen some DHCP servers use the subnet broadcast address which  
would be 255.255.0.0 for a class B subnet, but it proved to be  
problematic.)


DHCP is a broadcast protocol, given the fact that you don't  
actually have an address on the subnet yet. You would issue a  
DHCPREQUEST on destination port number 67 using 68 as the source  
port. Clients always use 67 and servers always use 68.

...


Thanks for the info Bob. Very helpful.

Now I just need to figure out how to make these requests from Rev...  
Anyone know how to do this?


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Re: OSX Authentication box

[J. Landman Gay]

Richard Miller wrote:
The problem here is that this is on a customer's server and my company 
is responsible for a remote backup of this unit late at night which 
requires file sharing to be turned off. The Rev/Applescript program is 
supposed to briefly turn off file sharing, let the system backup, then 
turn it back on again. It has to be an automated operation.


Oh. Well then, that's different. I'm afraid I don't know the answer though.

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Re: revbrowser - Account login done in background

[Andre Garzia]

Glen,

If I remember correctly, that init call was not related to any web
page login, it was there to verify that you had a valid altBrowser
license. These days, you simply call RevBrowserOpen, you don't need to
have a license anymore.

If you want to be able to login automatically to a web site, first you
need to learn how it's autentication scheme is done, if it is a http
basic authentication or it is some javascript + cookies thing. It
might be the case where you need some clever javascript injection and
if it needs so, then, it might not be worth pursuit.

If it is cookie based, you can use a simple URL call to capture the
cookie and script the RevBrowser using it's htmltext property, this
includes overwritting all links inside so you can trap them with
RevBrowserBeforeNavigate so that you can use custom URL calls with
your captured cookie, this can also be done with javascript injection
where you add javascript to the html source to set the cookies on the
browser and thus be able to navigate normally. Any way, I've did this
sort of stuff as an experiment, I would not trust these techniques
into something you intend to deploy. A single change in the web page
on the server side and everything breaks.

PS: If by login, you simply want to display a web page, you can use
the URL property of RevBrowser to open such page.

Andre

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Glen Bojsza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> There used to be XBrowser_Init "myUsername", "myPassword" that support
> altBrowser but it is no longer supported with revBrowser.
>
> I would like to automatically be able to login to a known web site with the
> push of a button. Is there a way to do this using revBrowser?
>
> thanks,
>
> Glen
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RE: How broke is the Player?

[Randall Reetz]

I dont have a penny!... You happy now?

-Original Message-
From: "Hugh Senior" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Sent: 7/1/2008 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: How broke is the Player?

On Jul 1, 2008, at 3:08 PM, Hugh Senior wrote:

> Under Windows in Rev 2.9.610...
> The 'functionally-disadvantaged' player object on
> my set-up is currently blocking a project.

On Jul 1, 2008, at 3:48 PM, Jim Sims wrote:

> I think that I sent you a 2.9 standalone which did play WMV files,
> yes? It would have  been a Rev version.

> It did have some of the controller issues you mention, but
> it did play WMV (handicapped as it was).


You did indeed, sims, and your good offices were the sole reason that I 
persisted. There are, however, fundamental functional differences in ability 
to play, let alone ability to control, different movie formats between the 
RevUI, the mcUI, and a standAlone (where rev and mc obviously coincide). I 
have bugzilla'd this as #6672 with a checklist summary of findings at 
http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/attachment.cgi?id=1344&action=view.

What really surprises me is that a player object in the RevUI cannot display 
a JPEG whereas the mcUI has no problem, and that the RevUI is able to handle 
MWV (albeit handicapped without a controller) but the mcUI cannot reference 
such files at all.

All most frustrating and not a little contradictory in delivery.

/H

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Re: How broke is the Player?

[Hugh Senior]

On Jul 1, 2008, at 3:08 PM, Hugh Senior wrote:


Under Windows in Rev 2.9.610...
The 'functionally-disadvantaged' player object on
my set-up is currently blocking a project.


On Jul 1, 2008, at 3:48 PM, Jim Sims wrote:


I think that I sent you a 2.9 standalone which did play WMV files,
yes? It would have  been a Rev version.



It did have some of the controller issues you mention, but
it did play WMV (handicapped as it was).



You did indeed, sims, and your good offices were the sole reason that I 
persisted. There are, however, fundamental functional differences in ability 
to play, let alone ability to control, different movie formats between the 
RevUI, the mcUI, and a standAlone (where rev and mc obviously coincide). I 
have bugzilla'd this as #6672 with a checklist summary of findings at 
http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/attachment.cgi?id=1344&action=view.


What really surprises me is that a player object in the RevUI cannot display 
a JPEG whereas the mcUI has no problem, and that the RevUI is able to handle 
MWV (albeit handicapped without a controller) but the mcUI cannot reference 
such files at all.


All most frustrating and not a little contradictory in delivery.

/H

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Re: OSX Authentication box

[Richard Miller]

The problem here is that this is on a customer's server and my  
company is responsible for a remote backup of this unit late at night  
which requires file sharing to be turned off. The Rev/Applescript  
program is supposed to briefly turn off file sharing, let the system  
backup, then turn it back on again. It has to be an automated operation.


Richard


On Jul 1, 2008, at 11:39 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


Richard Miller wrote:

Ken,
What I am doing is turning file sharing on and off on a Mac. The  
standard shell script one might use to do this doesn't seem to  
work when the file sharing control panel is in its "locked" state.
do shell script "/usr/sbin/AppleFileServer" password "x" with  
administrator

privileges

Turning off with:
do shell script "/usr/bin/killall AppleFileServer" password "x" with
administrator privileges
When it is locked, I was using Applescript to unlock it. But that  
requires putting in the password and then closing the dialog box.  
That's where the problem is coming from.


I tend to think that's a good thing. If an administrator has locked  
file sharing (or any other preference,) there's a reason. Seems to  
me it would be a security hole if anyone were able to unlock system  
prefs behind the user's back -- malware would certainly take  
advantage of that. I think my solution would be to see if the  
script succeeds, and if not, put up an error dialog informing the  
user of the problem. Then let them make the decision about what to do.


Personally, as a user, I would avoid software that changes my  
preferences like that. I'm not even real comfortable with it  
turning file sharing on and off without my knowledge. I'd much  
prefer that the software tell me about its requirements and let me  
do it.


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Re: OSX Authentication box

[J. Landman Gay]

Richard Miller wrote:

Ken,

What I am doing is turning file sharing on and off on a Mac. The 
standard shell script one might use to do this doesn't seem to work when 
the file sharing control panel is in its "locked" state.


do shell script "/usr/sbin/AppleFileServer" password "x" with 
administrator

privileges

Turning off with:
do shell script "/usr/bin/killall AppleFileServer" password "x" with
administrator privileges


When it is locked, I was using Applescript to unlock it. But that 
requires putting in the password and then closing the dialog box. That's 
where the problem is coming from.


I tend to think that's a good thing. If an administrator has locked file 
sharing (or any other preference,) there's a reason. Seems to me it 
would be a security hole if anyone were able to unlock system prefs 
behind the user's back -- malware would certainly take advantage of 
that. I think my solution would be to see if the script succeeds, and if 
not, put up an error dialog informing the user of the problem. Then let 
them make the decision about what to do.


Personally, as a user, I would avoid software that changes my 
preferences like that. I'm not even real comfortable with it turning 
file sharing on and off without my knowledge. I'd much prefer that the 
software tell me about its requirements and let me do it.


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Re: Externals API calls

[Trevor DeVore]

On Jul 1, 2008, at 10:39 AM, -= JB =- wrote:


Where can I find a list of all Revolution Externals API calls so I can
see what all can be used in externals for Rev?


In the root directory where you create your externals (assuming you  
used "External Creator X.rev") there is a folder called libexternal.  
Look in the src directory and you will find external.c and external.h.  
Take a look at external.h.


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Externals API calls

[-= JB =-]

Where can I find a list of all Revolution Externals API calls so I can
see what all can be used in externals for Rev?

-=>JB<=-
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Subject: Custom colored scrollbars for fields BETA

[sandrah9]

I am using Mac 10.5.3 and so far it seems to work fine!  This is a neat little 
plug-in.  Good work.

Sandy
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Re: How broke is the Player?

[Jim Sims]

On Jul 1, 2008, at 3:48 PM, Jim Sims wrote:

I think that I sent you a 2.9 standalone which did play WMV files,  
yes? It would

have  been a Rev version.



It did have some of the controller issues you mention, but
it did play WMV (handicapped as it was).

sims

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Re: How broke is the Player?

[Jim Sims]

On Jul 1, 2008, at 3:08 PM, Hugh Senior wrote:


Under Windows in Rev 2.9.610...


- Player plays .wmv in a stack but not a standAlone (mc cannot  
reference them at all).


Insights welcomed. The 'functionally-disadvantaged' player object on  
my set-up is currently blocking a project.


I think that I sent you a 2.9 standalone which did play WMV files,  
yes? It would

have  been a Rev version.

sims

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Copying Property Profiles From One Object To Another

[Mikey]

1) It appears that I can't have master property profiles that I have
inherited for an entire stack.  Is that correct?
2) If 1 is true, then what's an easy way to copy property profiles from one
object to another (objects of the same type)

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Re: Background Color

[Andres Martinez]

Thanks Mark

Your first suggestion works perfectly.

Thank you,
Andres Martinez
www.baKno.com

On Jul 1, 2008, at 7:42 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote:


Hi Andres,

set the backgroundColor of stack "Ask Dialog" to white

But another solution might be:

answer warning "Hell World!" with  
"Okay"


Best,

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Op 1-jul-2008, om 13:33 heeft Andres Martinez het volgende geschreven:


Hello

When the main stack's background color is changed, the color of any  
new answer dialog window is also changed.


I am having a problem when that color is black because the letters  
on the dialog window are black and they become invisible.


Is it possible to have different background colors for the main  
stack and the dialog windows?


Thank you,
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Re: Background Color

[Andres Martinez]

Hello Mikey

Sorry, I forgot to mention... on the development environment the color  
is not changed, only on the compiled application.


Regards,
Andres Martinez
www.baKno.com

On Jul 1, 2008, at 8:57 AM, Mikey wrote:


Huh.  On XP, it is still grey for me.

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How broke is the Player?

[Hugh Senior]

Under Windows in Rev 2.9.610...

- Player doesn't handle images.

- Player plays .wmv in a stack but not a standAlone (mc cannot reference 
them at all).


- Player is unable to display a controller in non-QT videoClips.

- Player start/stop/pause commands are inconsistenly operational.

- Player callbacks only work when using the controller, but not when 
controlling a clip programmatically.


Are all these known issues, is it me, or has the Player been inadvertantly 
compromised in the latest release version? I don't recall having these 
problems before and cannot find anything in the bug database.


Insights welcomed. The 'functionally-disadvantaged' player object on my 
set-up is currently blocking a project.


/H 


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Getting Custom Colors To Be Persistent In A Project

[Mikey]

XP
So I created a couple of custom colors to match a theme for a project.
However when I closed the project and came back in, they're gone.

What's a good way to store these so they appear in the color palette when I
come back in?

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Re: Background Color

[Mikey]

Huh.  On XP, it is still grey for me.

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Re: concatenate fields

[william humphrey]

Thanks Sarah. I thought I'd have to do it like that with a bunch of "if's"
but I'm always reading these amazing solutions here so I'm beginning to
think that there is some magic beyond ordinary mortals. It is a relief to
know that sometimes the mundane answer is correct.
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Re: Background Color

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Andres,

set the backgroundColor of stack "Ask Dialog" to white

But another solution might be:

answer warning "Hell World!" with  
"Okay"


Best,

Mark

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Op 1-jul-2008, om 13:33 heeft Andres Martinez het volgende geschreven:


Hello

When the main stack's background color is changed, the color of any  
new answer dialog window is also changed.


I am having a problem when that color is black because the letters  
on the dialog window are black and they become invisible.


Is it possible to have different background colors for the main  
stack and the dialog windows?


Thank you,
Andres Martinez
www.baKno.com



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Background Color

[Andres Martinez]

Hello

When the main stack's background color is changed, the color of any  
new answer dialog window is also changed.


I am having a problem when that color is black because the letters on  
the dialog window are black and they become invisible.


Is it possible to have different background colors for the main stack  
and the dialog windows?


Thank you,
Andres Martinez
www.baKno.com

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Re: alternative desktops in Linux

[Scott Rossi]

Recently, Peter Alcibiades wrote:

> Basic article, but might be of interest to anyone who has never tried
> alternative desktops in Linux - maybe just used the Gnome that comes standard
> with Ubuntu.  Its written by a Ubuntu user but of course any desktop works
> with any distro.

If one is really interested in alternative Linux desktops, this video shows
off beryl, one of the cooler packages for Ubuntu (pitted against Windows
Vista).

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ

I don't have a Linux system myself, but the video makes me want one just for
the pure fun of it.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design


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alternative desktops in Linux

[Peter Alcibiades]

http://beginlinux.com/index.php/desktop_training/ubuntuhardyheron_cat/112-ubuntu804/1035-ubuntu-804-desktop-options

Basic article, but might be of interest to anyone who has never tried 
alternative desktops in Linux - maybe just used the Gnome that comes standard 
with Ubuntu.  Its written by a Ubuntu user but of course any desktop works 
with any distro.

The resource consumption data is quite interesting.  My impression is that KDE 
(not listed obviously) is more resource intensive than Gnome, but I haven't 
seen this documented. 

Peter
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Re: OSX Authentication box

[Richard Miller]

Ken,

What I am doing is turning file sharing on and off on a Mac. The  
standard shell script one might use to do this doesn't seem to work  
when the file sharing control panel is in its "locked" state.


do shell script "/usr/sbin/AppleFileServer" password "x" with  
administrator

privileges

Turning off with:
do shell script "/usr/bin/killall AppleFileServer" password "x" with
administrator privileges


When it is locked, I was using Applescript to unlock it. But that  
requires putting in the password and then closing the dialog box.  
That's where the problem is coming from.


Thanks.
Richard


On Jun 30, 2008, at 5:41 PM, Ken Ray wrote:


Is there some other way I can have Rev close that dialog box after
it's used Applescript to insert the password?


Just curious - what is it that you're doing that brings up the
authentication dialog? The reason I ask, is that if it can be done  
using
shell() there's a way to pass the authentication in the command so  
you don't

get the dialog...

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/


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