Re: locking, permissions, data

[Henk van der Velden]

We have seen this issue two times when an existing installation of  
one of our apps was copied to a new server. I didn't understand how  
it could happen, but probably Peter is right and using the on-off  
switch instead of properly shutting down the application is the cause.


Maybe we could check for the existence of a .rev~ file, and if one  
exists, remove the corresponding .rev file and change the extension  
from rev~ to rev.


Kind regards,
Henk


On Jul 23, 2008, at 06:34 , [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:


Yes, this could be it.  They do every so often close it down using  
the on-off
switch, which invokes the shutdown procedure, but too fast for rev  
to close
and save properly.  Could be.  Thanks - at least it frees one from  
worrying

that someone is trying to use a text editor on it.

Now what to do about it!  At least it is fairly easy to recover from.

Peter


Martin Baxter-4 wrote:


Peter,

I believe the .rev~ file is made by the revolution engine  
automatically

when you do a stack save. It is a backup of the exisiting stack file
prior to the save command. If the save is successful it is  
deleted, so

you only see it if something went wrong.

Assuming this is correct, this would suggest that the stack save
operation is failing part way through, for some reason.


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How to access group members for editing?

[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Hello,

After having grouped some fields and buttons, how can I access the single
group members for editing their properties, script or shift them with the
mouse to another location in the IDE? Up to now, I always open the
application browser, but their must be a more comfortable shortcut? I also
tried click combinations with different keys on the group, but always get
selected only the group.

Thanks for any trick :-)

Tiemo

 

 

 

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Re: preventing mouse clicks

[Scott Rossi]

> Is there a simple command I could
> insert into Button X's script so that
> mouseclicks on other buttons, objects
> or the menubar are ignored until
> Button X's script has completed
> (ie, until the images are downloaded)?

One simple way to do this is to display a card size opaque graphic whose ink
is set to noop on top of everything.  This will prevent accessing all
controls beneath the graphic.

For the menubar, you would probably need to disable the menubar group or
buttons, but you may want to be selective about this to avoid completely
disabling your app -- most apps that download anything can be quit in the
middle of a download (with the appropriate warning of course).

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design


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Re: Could it be this simple?

[Bill Vlahos]

Wow. This looks great.

Thanks,
Bill

On Jul 22, 2008, at 9:26 PM, Scott Morrow wrote:


Hello Bill,

Check out Install Gadget

http://www.sweattechnologies.com/InstallGadget/

For simple installations like you are talking about, Install Gadget  
is hard to beat. The user gets a nice interface.  You get a simple  
drag and drop build... can't be easier.  The drag and drop does  
need to happen on a Windows OS.


Scott Morrow

Elementary Software
(Now with 20% less chalk dust!)
web   http://elementarysoftware.com/
email [EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Jul 22, 2008, at 8:02 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote:

I am ready to distribute my application but I need an installer  
for Windows and I am programming this on a Mac. My installation  
process is very simple. All I need to do is unzip the folder to  
the desired location. No registry settings or any other  
installation processes.


Stuffit Deluxe for the Mac can create a self extracting archive  
for Windows as a .exe file which unstuffs to the folder and I'm done.


I got to thinking that I can probably do the same thing myself in  
Rev.

1. GZip the folder on the Mac
	2. Make a Rev Windows standalone that contains the zipped file in  
a Custom Property that will Unzip/Install the folder when opened.


Distribute the standalone "Installer".

Could it be this simple? Other than not being "Signed by  
Microsoft" (unless I go through the certification/payment  
process), is there anything wrong with what I'm suggesting?


Or should I pay for StuffIt Deluxe to do this?

Thanks,
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Re: preventing mouse clicks

[Scott Morrow]

Hello Nicolas,

One thing to watch out for is that when you re-enable the group, all  
the controls within become enabled.  So if there was a disabled  
control in the  group before the group was disabled,  it will become  
enabled when the group is re enabled.


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On Jul 22, 2008, at 9:01 PM, Nicolas Cueto wrote:


If all your controls are part of a group, you can
disable them in one go by disabling the group


Fortunately, they were, and that's what I
ended up doing.

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Re: Could it be this simple?

[Scott Morrow]

Hello Bill,

Check out Install Gadget

http://www.sweattechnologies.com/InstallGadget/

For simple installations like you are talking about, Install Gadget is  
hard to beat. The user gets a nice interface.  You get a simple drag  
and drop build... can't be easier.  The drag and drop does need to  
happen on a Windows OS.


Scott Morrow

Elementary Software
(Now with 20% less chalk dust!)
web   http://elementarysoftware.com/
email [EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Jul 22, 2008, at 8:02 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote:

I am ready to distribute my application but I need an installer for  
Windows and I am programming this on a Mac. My installation process  
is very simple. All I need to do is unzip the folder to the desired  
location. No registry settings or any other installation processes.


Stuffit Deluxe for the Mac can create a self extracting archive for  
Windows as a .exe file which unstuffs to the folder and I'm done.


I got to thinking that I can probably do the same thing myself in Rev.
1. GZip the folder on the Mac
	2. Make a Rev Windows standalone that contains the zipped file in a  
Custom Property that will Unzip/Install the folder when opened.


Distribute the standalone "Installer".

Could it be this simple? Other than not being "Signed by  
Microsoft" (unless I go through the certification/payment process),  
is there anything wrong with what I'm suggesting?


Or should I pay for StuffIt Deluxe to do this?

Thanks,
Bill Vlahos
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Re: Could it be this simple?

[Jan Schenkel]

--- Bill Vlahos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am ready to distribute my application but I need
> an installer for  
> Windows and I am programming this on a Mac. My
> installation process is  
> very simple. All I need to do is unzip the folder to
> the desired  
> location. No registry settings or any other
> installation processes.
> 
> Stuffit Deluxe for the Mac can create a self
> extracting archive for  
> Windows as a .exe file which unstuffs to the folder
> and I'm done.
> 
> I got to thinking that I can probably do the same
> thing myself in Rev.
>   1. GZip the folder on the Mac
>   2. Make a Rev Windows standalone that contains the
> zipped file in a  
> Custom Property that will Unzip/Install the folder
> when opened.
> 
> Distribute the standalone "Installer".
> 
> Could it be this simple? Other than not being
> "Signed by  
> Microsoft" (unless I go through the
> certification/payment process), is  
> there anything wrong with what I'm suggesting?
> 
> Or should I pay for StuffIt Deluxe to do this?
> 
> Thanks,
> Bill Vlahos
> 

Hi Bill,

While I've done this sort of installer myself (using
'compress' to store each file in a custom property and
then 'decompress' later on while reconstructing the
directory structure) it has a few caveats:
- on Mac and Linux, you'll have to do some shell calls
to mark your actual executable file as executable
(that's where 'chmod' comes in)
- on Mac you will have to save the 'fileType' of each
file and set it as you write your decompressed files
(the easiest way is to setup a separate 'metadata'
custom property set)
- on Mac you may also want to read/write  the
'resource fork' of files (easy enough to get/put with
'URL "resfile:" & tFilePath')
- the file creation/modification dates on the user's
computer won't match yours (which means you can't rely
on them for versioning)

But you could perhaps work around those limitations
using the 'revZip' set of external commands and
functions - I haven't actually tested if
'revZipAddItemWithFile' and 'revZipExtractItemToFile'
cover all these situations.

As a bonus, you can easily poke the Windows registry
using built-in Revolution functions without having to
learn some obscure installer scripting language.

Hope this helped,

Jan Schenkel.

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Re: Removing an OSX dock icon

[Scott Morrow]

Hello Ken,

Thanks a bunch.  I didn't know about PlistBuddy.  I've got it working  
now!


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On Jul 22, 2008, at 11:38 AM, Ken Ray wrote:




With the following I'm able to add an icon to the OSX dock.  I'm
wondering if anyone knows (or would care to guess) how to remove an
icon from the dock... besides dragging it off  :  )


Take a look at the "PlistBuddy" command line file that ships in the  
bundles

of a lot of software on the Mac. Under Leopard, there should be one at
/usr/libexec/PlistBuddy.

If you run it with the -h parameter, you can get the list of what  
you can do

with it. Then you can use it with the Dock's plist file
(~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.dock.plist).

For example, to delete the item in the 13th app slot on the dock  
(you'd need
to run PlistBuddy with other configs to determine the slot number),  
you can

execute this:

/usr/libexec/PlistBuddy -c "Delete persistent-apps:13"
~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.dock.plist

And then reload the dock with "killall Dock"). It's a real PITA, but  
it

works pretty well.

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Re: preventing mouse clicks

[Nicolas Cueto]

> If all your controls are part of a group, you can
> disable them in one go by disabling the group

Fortunately, they were, and that's what I
ended up doing.

Thanks.

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Re: preventing mouse clicks

[Jan Schenkel]

--- Nicolas Cueto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You can disable all (other) objects, until the
> download has finished.
> 
> Thanks, Mark. I did that. But somewhat tedious
> typing it all out.
> 
> Guess there's no easier way (other than perhaps
> better design?).
> 
> --
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> 

If all your controls are part of a group, you can
disable them in one go by disabling the group - pretty
handy feature and helps cutting down on scripting
lines for this situation.

Jan Schenkel.

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Could it be this simple?

[Bill Vlahos]

I am ready to distribute my application but I need an installer for  
Windows and I am programming this on a Mac. My installation process is  
very simple. All I need to do is unzip the folder to the desired  
location. No registry settings or any other installation processes.


Stuffit Deluxe for the Mac can create a self extracting archive for  
Windows as a .exe file which unstuffs to the folder and I'm done.


I got to thinking that I can probably do the same thing myself in Rev.
1. GZip the folder on the Mac
	2. Make a Rev Windows standalone that contains the zipped file in a  
Custom Property that will Unzip/Install the folder when opened.


Distribute the standalone "Installer".

Could it be this simple? Other than not being "Signed by  
Microsoft" (unless I go through the certification/payment process), is  
there anything wrong with what I'm suggesting?


Or should I pay for StuffIt Deluxe to do this?

Thanks,
Bill Vlahos
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answer folder and folder shortcuts (Windows)

[Nicolas Cueto]

Hello,

In the window that is called up
by the "answer folder" command,
folders are of course listed but
not any Windows shortcuts to
folders.

Is there a way of having these
displayed too? Other software
software applications allow this,
so, if possible,  I'd like to follow
this practice with my standalones.

Thank you.

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Re: Help with revBrowser issue

[Thomas McGrath III]

Eric,

It wouldn't take the % between words but instead took a + and then it  
mostly works.


Tom


On Jul 22, 2008, at 4:41 PM, Eric Chatonet wrote:


What about http://www.google.com/search?q=Spiderman%22
Note the '%22' t the end.

Le 22 juil. 08 à 22:32, Thomas McGrath III a écrit :


Dear listers,

I have a simple revBrowser window that does not load under the  
following situation:


This part works fine:
 put the windowid of this stack into tWinID

   local sBrowserId
   put revBrowserOpen(tWinID, "http://www.google.com";)  
into sBrowserId


   revBrowserSet sBrowserId, "showborder","true"
   revBrowserSet sBrowserId, "rect",rect of img  
"BrowserOne" of grp "WebBrowser"

   put sBrowserId into gBrowserId

Here is where I am having the problem:

 if gtheGroup is "Play" then
   put gMovieToPlay into tSearch
   put "http://www.google.com/search?q="; into tGoogle
   put tGoogle & tSearch into theAddressLookup
   revBrowserNavigate gBrowserId, theAddressLookup
   else
   revBrowserNavigate gBrowserId, theWebsiteAddress
   end if

When I put  "http://www.google.com/search?q="; & "Spiderman" into  
theAddressLookup I get "http://www.google.com/search?q=Spiderman";
and it should launch in the browser. If I put -
revBrowserNavigate gBrowserId, "http://www.google.com/search?q=Spiderman 
"  - into the message box it works but if I build it on the fly  
using variables it will not launch.


Any ideas on using variables to build an address to then  
Navigate?



Thanks for the help.

Tom McGrath


Best regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet.

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Re: Multi-dimensional arrays explained..

[Andre Garzia]

Friends,

Can we send arrays around now?

Andre

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Chipp Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Trevor's got a SUPER write-up on the new m-dim arrays in Rev 3.0 in the
> latest newsletter. I encourage everyone to read it as it explains in a
> simple way and in great detail how to use them. Plus, he throws in a stack
> which can convert XML to Rev 3's m-dim arrays and back. Very cool and mucho
> thanks to Trevor for taking the time to share with us all.
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Re: How many libraries do you use in your apps?

[Andre Garzia]

Richard,

In my CGIs I have anywhere from 3 to 10 libraries loaded. They are all
small specific collection of routines. The limit  I usually reach is
the scriptLimits. I think I tend to create code that generates code at
runtime, so, my generated code must be 10 lines or less. If you can't
think where to use meta-programing, just think of macros, code
analysis and little parsers...

Andre

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> what's the greatest number you've ever shipped with an app?
>
> I've never used more than about a dozen or so myself; I'd be interested in
> hearing if anyone's exceeded 25, or gotten anywhere close to 50.
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Re: OT - Snapper on MacZot

[Andre Garzia]

Mark,

congrats on getting your software on MacZOT! I wish you nice sales! :D

Cheers

Andre

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>
> Just a quick note to tell you that MacZot will offer Snapper Screen Recorder
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>  and you can find the special offer at
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Re: preventing mouse clicks

[Nicolas Cueto]

> You can disable all (other) objects, until the download has finished.

Thanks, Mark. I did that. But somewhat tedious
typing it all out.

Guess there's no easier way (other than perhaps
better design?).

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Re: preventing mouse clicks

[Terry Judd]

Check out the flushEvents function...

"Use the flushEvents function to prevent unwanted messages from being sent
during a handler's execution."

Terry...


On 23/7/08 10:02 AM, "Nicolas Cueto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> When the user clicks on Button X,
> its mouseUp script begins to download
> a series of images.
> 
> Is there a simple command I could
> insert into Button X's script so that
> mouseclicks on other buttons, objects
> or the menubar are ignored until
> Button X's script has completed
> (ie, until the images are downloaded)?
> 
> Thank you.
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Re: preventing mouse clicks

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Nicholas,

You can disable all (other) objects, until the download has finished.  
You could also insert a check in all other scripts, to see whether  
something is currently downloaded. The urlStatus provides you with  
information about currently running downloads.


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On 23 jul 2008, at 02:02, Nicolas Cueto wrote:


Hello,

When the user clicks on Button X,
its mouseUp script begins to download
a series of images.

Is there a simple command I could
insert into Button X's script so that
mouseclicks on other buttons, objects
or the menubar are ignored until
Button X's script has completed
(ie, until the images are downloaded)?

Thank you.

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preventing mouse clicks

[Nicolas Cueto]

Hello,

When the user clicks on Button X,
its mouseUp script begins to download
a series of images.

Is there a simple command I could
insert into Button X's script so that
mouseclicks on other buttons, objects
or the menubar are ignored until
Button X's script has completed
(ie, until the images are downloaded)?

Thank you.

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OT - Snapper on MacZot

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi,

Just a quick note to tell you that MacZot will offer Snapper Screen  
Recorder at a 33% discount tomorrow. For more information about  
Snapper see  and you can find the  
special offer at . (Snapper is made with  
Revolution).


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Re: Table Field documentation/tutorials/hints/anything

[Paul Looney]

Gordon,
Request 670, real table fields, has been the most asked for Rev  
feature for approximately five years!

Someday? Maybe?
I agree with you that it would be most helpful - see my post to  
Bugzilla in 2005.
If you have not already discovered it, you will encounter another  
problem using the existing table for spreadsheet-like calculated  
fields: you can only align the numbers to the left.
At this point I can't honestly say that more votes will help but it  
probably can't hurt.

Paul Looney

On Jul 22, 2008, at 1:25 PM, Gordon Sande wrote:



I was hoping to use RunRev to display some calculated data
in spreadsheet like displays. To be useful I need to select
the data to be displayed in each of several such displays.

RunRev looked like it might be a good tool. A nice programing
language with easy control of graphical output under interactive
input. 2.9 Revolution Media seemed like an easy start.

Then I read section 4.2.23 on Table Field Control and tried
to find anything else. The search command must be broken on
my copy of the documentation as I found nothing else. I did
find one tutorial which explained that this was an experimental
feature as of 2.5 which was both undocumented and subject to
various bugs. Lots of custom properties and arcane addressing
polynomials to select fields with do-it-yourself handlers.

What have I managed to miss?

Citations of further documentation would be welcome. Web URLs
of examples or tutorials would sure help. Any other hints
would also be welcome. Even other solutions to my display
problem would be welcome.

Eventually I will want to control the size of the cells,
the weight of the cell boundaries, the font and styling of
the contents and have the displays scroll in their windows.
Printing is also on the ToDo list but at this point I can
not even figure out how to get any values into a table.
Not a great start.





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Re: Table Field documentation/tutorials/hints/anything

[J. Landman Gay]

Gordon Sande wrote:


I was hoping to use RunRev to display some calculated data
in spreadsheet like displays. To be useful I need to select
the data to be displayed in each of several such displays.

RunRev looked like it might be a good tool. A nice programing
language with easy control of graphical output under interactive
input. 2.9 Revolution Media seemed like an easy start.

Then I read section 4.2.23 on Table Field Control and tried
to find anything else. The search command must be broken on
my copy of the documentation as I found nothing else. I did
find one tutorial which explained that this was an experimental
feature as of 2.5 which was both undocumented and subject to
various bugs. Lots of custom properties and arcane addressing
polynomials to select fields with do-it-yourself handlers.

What have I managed to miss?

Citations of further documentation would be welcome. Web URLs
of examples or tutorials would sure help. Any other hints
would also be welcome. Even other solutions to my display
problem would be welcome.

Eventually I will want to control the size of the cells,
the weight of the cell boundaries, the font and styling of
the contents and have the displays scroll in their windows.
Printing is also on the ToDo list but at this point I can
not even figure out how to get any values into a table.
Not a great start.


Agreed. Eventually Revolution's "table field" will be replaced with a 
real table object, but that's off in the future a ways. It's high on 
everyone's wish list though. In the mean time, the mailing list archives 
are a great resource for this kind of esoteric info. I use GMane but 
there are others. Here's a link to some info that pretty much explains 
what you're looking for:




If you search GMane for "table field" you'll get lots of other hits too.

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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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Re: Help with revBrowser issue

[Eric Chatonet]

What about http://www.google.com/search?q=Spiderman%22
Note the '%22' t the end.

Le 22 juil. 08 à 22:32, Thomas McGrath III a écrit :


Dear listers,

I have a simple revBrowser window that does not load under the  
following situation:


This part works fine:
 put the windowid of this stack into tWinID

local sBrowserId
put revBrowserOpen(tWinID, "http://www.google.com";)  
into sBrowserId


revBrowserSet sBrowserId, "showborder","true"
revBrowserSet sBrowserId, "rect",rect of img  
"BrowserOne" of grp "WebBrowser"

put sBrowserId into gBrowserId

Here is where I am having the problem:

 if gtheGroup is "Play" then
put gMovieToPlay into tSearch
put "http://www.google.com/search?q="; into tGoogle
put tGoogle & tSearch into theAddressLookup
revBrowserNavigate gBrowserId, theAddressLookup
else
revBrowserNavigate gBrowserId, theWebsiteAddress
end if

When I put  "http://www.google.com/search?q="; & "Spiderman" into  
theAddressLookup I get "http://www.google.com/search?q=Spiderman";
and it should launch in the browser. If I put -
revBrowserNavigate gBrowserId, "http://www.google.com/search? 
q=Spiderman"  - into the message box it works but if I build it on  
the fly using variables it will not launch.


Any ideas on using variables to build an address to then Navigate?


Thanks for the help.

Tom McGrath


Best regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet.

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Re: Looking for USB remote control ...

[Thomas McGrath III]

JB,

The SDK has javascript and VBscript examples so if an external is not  
possible then I would use RR to control via scripts in VBscript.


I am pretty sure there is a link to examples once you sign up for the  
SDK.


Tom McGrath


On Jul 22, 2008, at 8:40 AM, -= JB =- wrote:


I looked at the info and didn't see anything to help programmers
using a Mac or Revolution.

With HyperCard I was able to control X10 devices but never really
went much further due to many things not related to programming.

I suspect Rev could easily control X10.  Are there any examples?

-=>JB<=-

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Help with revBrowser issue

[Thomas McGrath III]

Dear listers,

I have a simple revBrowser window that does not load under the  
following situation:


This part works fine:
 put the windowid of this stack into tWinID

local sBrowserId
put revBrowserOpen(tWinID, "http://www.google.com";)  
into sBrowserId


revBrowserSet sBrowserId, "showborder","true"
revBrowserSet sBrowserId, "rect",rect of img  
"BrowserOne" of grp "WebBrowser"

put sBrowserId into gBrowserId

Here is where I am having the problem:

 if gtheGroup is "Play" then
put gMovieToPlay into tSearch
put "http://www.google.com/search?q="; into tGoogle
put tGoogle & tSearch into theAddressLookup
revBrowserNavigate gBrowserId, theAddressLookup
else
revBrowserNavigate gBrowserId, theWebsiteAddress
end if

When I put  "http://www.google.com/search?q="; & "Spiderman" into  
theAddressLookup I get "http://www.google.com/search?q=Spiderman";
and it should launch in the browser. If I put -   revBrowserNavigate  
gBrowserId, "http://www.google.com/search?q=Spiderman";  - into the  
message box it works but if I build it on the fly using variables it  
will not launch.


Any ideas on using variables to build an address to then Navigate?


Thanks for the help.

Tom McGrath
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Table Field documentation/tutorials/hints/anything

[Gordon Sande]

I was hoping to use RunRev to display some calculated data
in spreadsheet like displays. To be useful I need to select
the data to be displayed in each of several such displays.

RunRev looked like it might be a good tool. A nice programing
language with easy control of graphical output under interactive
input. 2.9 Revolution Media seemed like an easy start.

Then I read section 4.2.23 on Table Field Control and tried
to find anything else. The search command must be broken on
my copy of the documentation as I found nothing else. I did
find one tutorial which explained that this was an experimental
feature as of 2.5 which was both undocumented and subject to
various bugs. Lots of custom properties and arcane addressing
polynomials to select fields with do-it-yourself handlers.

What have I managed to miss?

Citations of further documentation would be welcome. Web URLs
of examples or tutorials would sure help. Any other hints
would also be welcome. Even other solutions to my display
problem would be welcome.

Eventually I will want to control the size of the cells,
the weight of the cell boundaries, the font and styling of
the contents and have the displays scroll in their windows.
Printing is also on the ToDo list but at this point I can
not even figure out how to get any values into a table.
Not a great start.





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Re: Looking for USB remote control ...

[Rick Harrison]

Hi again,

It sounds to me like what you are really looking for is
a penetrating radio computer terminal like the type used
in factories for sending bar code scans, typing, etc.
They do exist out there with base stations etc.

A low end solution might be Ethernet base stations
with pringle can antennas to extend the signal distance
or something similar.

Good luck!

Rick
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Re: locking, permissions, data

[Peter Alcibiades]

Yes, this could be it.  They do every so often close it down using the on-off
switch, which invokes the shutdown procedure, but too fast for rev to close
and save properly.  Could be.  Thanks - at least it frees one from worrying
that someone is trying to use a text editor on it.

Now what to do about it!  At least it is fairly easy to recover from.  

Peter


Martin Baxter-4 wrote:
> 
> Peter,
> 
> I believe the .rev~ file is made by the revolution engine automatically
> when you do a stack save. It is a backup of the exisiting stack file
> prior to the save command. If the save is successful it is deleted, so
> you only see it if something went wrong.
> 
> Assuming this is correct, this would suggest that the stack save
> operation is failing part way through, for some reason.
> 
> Martin Baxter
> 
> Peter Alcibiades wrote:
>> Here is a very weird situation.  The program consists of a launcher, call
>> it 
>> launcher, and the program proper, call it program.rev, and they are both
>> in 
>> the same folder.
>> 
>> I get a call that launcher is not starting up the program.  On inspection
>> of 
>> the folder, one sees the following:
>> 
>> launcher [executable, 2.5mb]
>> program.rev [unknown, 20k]
>> program.rev~ [unknown, 300k]
>> 
>> So, I delete program.rev, remove the tilde from the other name, and
>> everything 
>> works fine.
>> 
>> The only way I can think of to account for this is that someone opened
>> the 
>> program.rev file in a text editor, and then saved it.  All Linux text
>> editors 
>> I know seem to make a backup copy with a tilde to distinguish them, on 
>> saving.  
>> 
>> Yet, the users at the time are definitely incapable of opening a file
>> with a 
>> text editor and then saving it.  This is the second time its happened.  
>> 
>> 
>> Any ideas on how it could happen, and what to do, gratefully received!
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
> 
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Re: Re-2: How to sort lines in a field manually?

[Eric Chatonet]

Bonsoir Matthias,

Le 22 juil. 08 à 21:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :


Hi Eric,

thanks for your answer.

Do i understand right, that i cannot sort/dragndrop the lines in  
the same field? Do i have to use 2 fields?


No. Sure you can in the same field.
I was just thinking that the way I had coded drag and rop between two  
fields could help you how to do it in a simple field.

If you have problems to adapt the code, just write me off list.

Best regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet.

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Re-2: How to sort lines in a field manually?

[runrev260805]

Hi Eric,

thanks for your answer.

Do i understand right, that i cannot sort/dragndrop the lines in the same 
field? Do i have to use 2 fields?

Regards,

Matthias


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: How to sort lines in a field manually? (22-Jul-2008 16:34)
From:Eric Chatonet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Bonjour Matthias,
> 
> Le 22 juil. 08 à 15:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > how can i sort lines in a textfield manually to bring the lines in  
> > a specific order?
> >
> > I have created a stack, where  a list of filenames will be created  
> > with drag n drop. I´ve just started to understand how to use drag n  > drop 
> > in Rev - thanks to Eric for his tutorial.
> > This list has to be sorted manually by the user to bring it in the  
> > right order. I cannot use the sort command, because the order does  
> > not depend on the filenames.
> >
> > Is there a way to allow the user to sort the lines manually  by  
> > moving a line up or down? Or can this be done also with dragndrop  
> > feature of Rev 2.9?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Matthias
> 
> As you have my #024 Managing drag and drop #2 tutorial, have a look  
> at the 'Bonus' section of the 'Into one Rev window' tab:
> You will find there an example of drag and drop between two fields  
> you will be surely able to adapt easily to achieve your goal using  
> Rev 2.9 drag and drop features.
> 
> Best regards from Paris,
> Eric Chatonet.
> 
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> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/
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Re: Removing an OSX dock icon

[Ken Ray]

> With the following I'm able to add an icon to the OSX dock.  I'm
> wondering if anyone knows (or would care to guess) how to remove an
> icon from the dock... besides dragging it off  :  )

Take a look at the "PlistBuddy" command line file that ships in the bundles
of a lot of software on the Mac. Under Leopard, there should be one at
/usr/libexec/PlistBuddy.

If you run it with the -h parameter, you can get the list of what you can do
with it. Then you can use it with the Dock's plist file
(~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.dock.plist).

For example, to delete the item in the 13th app slot on the dock (you'd need
to run PlistBuddy with other configs to determine the slot number), you can
execute this:

 /usr/libexec/PlistBuddy -c "Delete persistent-apps:13"
~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.dock.plist

And then reload the dock with "killall Dock"). It's a real PITA, but it
works pretty well.

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [ANN][EN][FR] Tutorial #25 by So Smart Software

[Eric Chatonet]

Bonsoir Marty,

Le 22 juil. 08 à 19:38, Marty Knapp a écrit :

Thank you Eric for all your great contributions to the Revolution  
community. I've used your tutorials many times. They're a great  
inspiration for great coding (especially for hacks like me!).


Thanks for these kind words.
But I'm sure you are no longer a hack even if we learn every day:  
it's my case and yours ;-)


Best regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet.

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Re: [ANN][EN][FR] Tutorial #25 by So Smart Software

[Marty Knapp]

Thank you Eric for all your great contributions to the Revolution 
community. I've used your tutorials many times. They're a great 
inspiration for great coding (especially for hacks like me!).


Marty Knapp

I'm happy to announce that "How to implement clever auto-completion
in entry boxes", 25th tutorial for Revolution is available:


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Re: [ANN][EN][FR] Tutorial #25 by So Smart Software

[Ken Ray]

> I'm happy to announce that "How to implement clever auto-completion
> in entry boxes", 25th tutorial for Revolution is available:

Very nice, Eric! I can see that coming in handy...

Ken Ray
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Re: How to sort lines in a field manually?

[Eric Chatonet]

Bonjour Matthias,

Le 22 juil. 08 à 15:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :


Hi,

how can i sort lines in a textfield manually to bring the lines in  
a specific order?


I have created a stack, where  a list of filenames will be created  
with drag n drop. I´ve just started to understand how to use drag n  
drop in Rev - thanks to Eric for his tutorial.
This list has to be sorted manually by the user to bring it in the  
right order. I cannot use the sort command, because the order does  
not depend on the filenames.


Is there a way to allow the user to sort the lines manually  by  
moving a line up or down? Or can this be done also with dragndrop  
feature of Rev 2.9?


Regards,

Matthias


As you have my #024 Managing drag and drop #2 tutorial, have a look  
at the 'Bonus' section of the 'Into one Rev window' tab:
You will find there an example of drag and drop between two fields  
you will be surely able to adapt easily to achieve your goal using  
Rev 2.9 drag and drop features.


Best regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet.

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How to sort lines in a field manually?

[runrev260805]

Hi,

how can i sort lines in a textfield manually to bring the lines in a specific 
order?

I have created a stack, where  a list of filenames will be created with drag n 
drop. I´ve just started to understand how to use drag n drop in Rev - thanks to 
Eric for his tutorial. 
This list has to be sorted manually by the user to bring it in the right order. 
I cannot use the sort command, because the order does not depend on the 
filenames.

Is there a way to allow the user to sort the lines manually  by moving a line 
up or down? Or can this be done also with dragndrop feature of Rev 2.9?

Regards,

Matthias



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[ANN][EN][FR] Tutorial #25 by So Smart Software

[Eric Chatonet]

Tuesday, July 22, 2008

-- English version -

I'm happy to announce that "How to implement clever auto-completion  
in entry boxes", 25th tutorial for Revolution is available:
When the user has to feed entry boxes in a database like program,  
having to repeat typing again and again is really boring...
This stack shows how to implement clever auto-completion as you can  
see it in OS X Mail application when you type an email address.
It is complementary to tutorial #020: How to master users data in  
entry boxes.


If you have downlaoded the Tutorial Watcher plugin, you have been or  
will be automatically informed at next Rev startup.


You will access this tutorial through "Tutorials Picker" a free  
plugin that interfaces with the So Smart Software website in order to  
display all available tutorials stacks directly from the web.
You will find it by going to http://www.sosmartsoftware.com -  
Revolution/Plugins or Tutorials section.

You may also download directly this tutorial from the website.

At the moment, 25 tutorials are available through "Tutorials Picker"  
or on the website:


How to implement clever auto-completion in entry boxes
Managing drag and drop #2 (with Rev 2.9 or later)
How to create custom shaped windows
How to put Putting in place a stars ranking system
How to use PNG images to create custom controls
How to master user's data entries in a field
How to Monitor a QuickTime Player by Script
How to Download Data from the Internet
How to Manage Stack Resizing
How to Manage Table Fields
How to Display and Manage Ask Dialogs
How to Display and Manage Answer Dialogs
How to Manage Tabbed Buttons
How to Ask for a Password
How to Manage User's Waiting Time
How to Manage Drag and Drop for Files or Folders
How to Fix Stack Decorations
How to build and Manage Dynamic Menus
How to Manage "Snap to" Scrollbars
How to Create Contextual Tooltips on-the-fly
How to Store Images
How to Create and Manage HTML lists
How to Install "Metal Appearance" on All Platforms
How to Change Card Dimensions Smoothly
How to Magnify Images

Best regards,

Eric Chatonet.


- Version française 

J'ai de plaisir d'annoncer la disponibilité de "Comment implementer  
des saisies automatiques intelligentes", didacticiel n°25 pour  
Revolution :
Quand l'utilisateur doit renseigner de multiples rubriques dans un  
programme de type base de données, devoir répéter perpétuellement les  
saisies rend l'application fastidieuse à utiliser.
Cette pile montre comment installer un système de saisies  
automatiques intelligentes comme dans OSX Mail quand vous tapez une  
adresse.
Si vous avez installé le plugin "Tutorials Watcher", vous le savez  
déjà ou serez informé au prochain démarrage de Revolution.


Pour avoir accès à ce didacticiel, téléchargez "Tutorials Picker", un  
plugin gratuit qui communique directement avec le site de So Smart  
Software afin d'afficher tous les didacticels disponibles depuis le  
web dans leur dernière version.
Rendez-vous sur http://www.sosmartsoftware.com - Revolution/Section  
Plugins ou didacticiels.
Vous pouvez également télécharger ce didacticiel directement depuis  
le site.


Actuellement, 25 didacticiels sont disponibles à travers "Tutorials  
Picker" ou sur le site :


Comment implementer des saisies automatiques intelligentes
Comment gérer le glisser-déposer #2 (avec Rev 2.9 ou plus récent)
Comment créer des fenêtres personnalisées
Comment mettre en place un système de classement par étoiles
Comment utiliser les images PNG pour créer des contrôles personnalisés
Comment maîtriser les données entrées par l'utilisateur
Comment piloter finement un player QuickTime par script
Comment télécharger des données depuis internet
Comment redimensionner le contenu d'une fenêtre
Comment utiliser les champs tables
Comment afficher et gérer les dialogues Ask
Comment afficher et gérer les dialogues Answer
Comment gérer les boutons onglets
Comment réclamer un mot de passe
Comment gérer les attentes utilisateur
Comment gérer le glisser déposer de dossiers et de fichiers
Comment fixer les "décorations" d'une pile
Comment construire et gérer un menu dynamique
Comment gérer le comportement "magnétique" d'un scrollbar
Comment créer à la volée des tooltips contextuels
Comment stocker des images dans une pile
Comment créer et gérer des listes en HTML
Comment installer l'apparence métal brossé sur toutes plate-formes
Comment changer les dimensions d'une carte avec un effet progressif
Comment implémenter une loupe destinée à ne grossir que les images

Cordialement,

Eric Chatonet.

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AW: property for text overflow?

[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Oh ja, sometimes it is so easy :)
Thanks Eric and Jan!
Tiemo

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Eric Chatonet
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 22. Juli 2008 14:42
> An: How to use Revolution
> Betreff: Re: property for text overflow?
> 
> Bonjour Tiemo,
> 
> Le 22 juil. 08 à 14:35, Tiemo Hollmann TB a écrit :
> 
> > Hi, I can't remember and find if there is a field property or a
> > function to
> > check, if a text in a field fits in the visible part of the field.
> > Something
> > like text overflow?
> >
> > Or how can I compare the length of a text with the width of a field
> > (single
> > line)? Probably done a thousand times.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Tiemo
> 
> 1. See dontWrap property
> 2. the formattedWidth of fld "MyField" > the width of fld "MyField"
> 
> Might help :-)
> 
> Best regards from Paris,
> Eric Chatonet.
> 
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Re: property for text overflow?

[Jan Schenkel]

--- Tiemo Hollmann TB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, I can't remember and find if there is a field
> property or a function to
> check, if a text in a field fits in the visible part
> of the field. Something
> like text overflow?
> 
> Or how can I compare the length of a text with the
> width of a field (single
> line)? Probably done a thousand times.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Tiemo
> 

Hi Tiemo,

Check the 'formattedWidth' and 'formattedHeight' field
properties in the dictionary.

Hope this helped,

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Re: property for text overflow?

[Eric Chatonet]

Bonjour Tiemo,

Le 22 juil. 08 à 14:35, Tiemo Hollmann TB a écrit :

Hi, I can't remember and find if there is a field property or a  
function to
check, if a text in a field fits in the visible part of the field.  
Something

like text overflow?

Or how can I compare the length of a text with the width of a field  
(single

line)? Probably done a thousand times.

Thanks

Tiemo


1. See dontWrap property
2. the formattedWidth of fld "MyField" > the width of fld "MyField"

Might help :-)

Best regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet.

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Re: Looking for USB remote control ...

[-= JB =-]

I looked at the info and didn't see anything to help programmers
using a Mac or Revolution.

With HyperCard I was able to control X10 devices but never really
went much further due to many things not related to programming.

I suspect Rev could easily control X10.  Are there any examples?

-=>JB<=-



On Jul 22, 2008, at 5:11 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:


Randall,

Have you Looked into X10 ?

They have many input and output solutions for appliances but also  
to and from the computer. They also can with a little creativity  
use RF and IR as well as the AC wiring schemes. They also work over  
the internet.


Check out the remote control switches here:
http://www.x10.com/activehomepro/remotes.html

Check out the software here (there was a usb plugin that accepted  
RS232):

http://www.x10.com/activehomepro/plugins/plugin-myhouse.html


Check out the SDK here:
http://www.x10.com/activehomepro/sdk/index.html

HTH

Tom McGrath

On Jul 21, 2008, at 10:21 PM, Randall Reetz wrote:

Except i have only succeded in defining the problem.  No solution  
yet.


-Original Message-
From: "Mark Talluto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "How to use Revolution" 
Sent: 7/21/2008 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: Looking for USB remote control ...

On Jul 21, 2008, at 6:06 PM, Randall Lee Reetz wrote:


I don't know if everyone understands that Jack's post specified a
range of (I interpreted as) a few hundred feet in a wild environment
of steel equipment, and walls, and certainly would not allow line- 
of-

site transmission.  Bluetooth is out (distance). Wifi might work
with repeaters and the right firm and soft ware.  IR will not work
because of line of site obstacles, distance, and heat noise.  Cell
would work but presents connection issues and latency of public IP
system.  This is why I was looking for a quick and dirty RC (model
car or airplane) solution.  This would satisfy the line of site and
range problems.  It would be faster in response than any IP or
telephonic system.  Band-width conflicts would be minimized.  Any
solutions that would satisfy the requirements stipulated by this
particular use environment?

Randall


On Jul 20, 2008, at 4:21 PM, Mark Talluto wrote:

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp? 
productId=2049653&cp=&sr=1&origkw=remote+control&kw=remote 
+control&parentPage=search


I totally missed that.  I guess I read it too quickly.  Glad you are
paying better attention with a super solution.


Mark Talluto
http://www.canelasoftware.com




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property for text overflow?

[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Hi, I can't remember and find if there is a field property or a function to
check, if a text in a field fits in the visible part of the field. Something
like text overflow?

Or how can I compare the length of a text with the width of a field (single
line)? Probably done a thousand times.

Thanks

Tiemo

 

 

 

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Re: Looking for USB remote control ...

[Thomas McGrath III]

Randall,

Have you Looked into X10 ?

They have many input and output solutions for appliances but also to  
and from the computer. They also can with a little creativity use RF  
and IR as well as the AC wiring schemes. They also work over the  
internet.


Check out the remote control switches here:
http://www.x10.com/activehomepro/remotes.html

Check out the software here (there was a usb plugin that accepted  
RS232):

http://www.x10.com/activehomepro/plugins/plugin-myhouse.html


Check out the SDK here:
http://www.x10.com/activehomepro/sdk/index.html

HTH

Tom McGrath

On Jul 21, 2008, at 10:21 PM, Randall Reetz wrote:


Except i have only succeded in defining the problem.  No solution yet.

-Original Message-
From: "Mark Talluto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "How to use Revolution" 
Sent: 7/21/2008 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: Looking for USB remote control ...

On Jul 21, 2008, at 6:06 PM, Randall Lee Reetz wrote:


I don't know if everyone understands that Jack's post specified a
range of (I interpreted as) a few hundred feet in a wild environment
of steel equipment, and walls, and certainly would not allow line-of-
site transmission.  Bluetooth is out (distance). Wifi might work
with repeaters and the right firm and soft ware.  IR will not work
because of line of site obstacles, distance, and heat noise.  Cell
would work but presents connection issues and latency of public IP
system.  This is why I was looking for a quick and dirty RC (model
car or airplane) solution.  This would satisfy the line of site and
range problems.  It would be faster in response than any IP or
telephonic system.  Band-width conflicts would be minimized.  Any
solutions that would satisfy the requirements stipulated by this
particular use environment?

Randall


On Jul 20, 2008, at 4:21 PM, Mark Talluto wrote:


http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2049653&cp=&sr=1&origkw=remote+control&kw=remote+control&parentPage=search


I totally missed that.  I guess I read it too quickly.  Glad you are
paying better attention with a super solution.


Mark Talluto
http://www.canelasoftware.com




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Re: locking, permissions, data

[Martin Baxter]

Peter,

I believe the .rev~ file is made by the revolution engine automatically
when you do a stack save. It is a backup of the exisiting stack file
prior to the save command. If the save is successful it is deleted, so
you only see it if something went wrong.

Assuming this is correct, this would suggest that the stack save
operation is failing part way through, for some reason.

Martin Baxter

Peter Alcibiades wrote:
> Here is a very weird situation.  The program consists of a launcher, call it 
> launcher, and the program proper, call it program.rev, and they are both in 
> the same folder.
> 
> I get a call that launcher is not starting up the program.  On inspection of 
> the folder, one sees the following:
> 
> launcher [executable, 2.5mb]
> program.rev [unknown, 20k]
> program.rev~ [unknown, 300k]
> 
> So, I delete program.rev, remove the tilde from the other name, and 
> everything 
> works fine.
> 
> The only way I can think of to account for this is that someone opened the 
> program.rev file in a text editor, and then saved it.  All Linux text editors 
> I know seem to make a backup copy with a tilde to distinguish them, on 
> saving.  
> 
> Yet, the users at the time are definitely incapable of opening a file with a 
> text editor and then saving it.  This is the second time its happened.  
> 
> 
> Any ideas on how it could happen, and what to do, gratefully received!
> 
> Peter
> 

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locking, permissions, data

[Peter Alcibiades]

Here is a very weird situation.  The program consists of a launcher, call it 
launcher, and the program proper, call it program.rev, and they are both in 
the same folder.

I get a call that launcher is not starting up the program.  On inspection of 
the folder, one sees the following:

launcher [executable, 2.5mb]
program.rev [unknown, 20k]
program.rev~ [unknown, 300k]

So, I delete program.rev, remove the tilde from the other name, and everything 
works fine.

The only way I can think of to account for this is that someone opened the 
program.rev file in a text editor, and then saved it.  All Linux text editors 
I know seem to make a backup copy with a tilde to distinguish them, on 
saving.  

Yet, the users at the time are definitely incapable of opening a file with a 
text editor and then saving it.  This is the second time its happened.  

What to do?  One could make program.rev read only, but then it would mean that 
all the data would have to be stored in external files, and then read in for 
any processing, which is getting very complicated.Is there some way using 
finely grained permissions to stop this happening, but to allow data to be 
added to the data fields and custom properties?  Should I perhaps make the 
default application for the .rev extension something totally harmless like 
maybe mplayer?  

Any ideas on how it could happen, and what to do, gratefully received!

Peter

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Re: How many libraries do you use in your apps?

[David Bovill]

In a shipped app - no more than 8, but in the development environment 49 at
the latest count. I've been moving from having large mixed libraries to
smaller single use libraries recently, which helps organise them.
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Re: How many libraries do you use in your apps?

[Jan Schenkel]

--- Richard Gaskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just curious:  there are 50 slots available for
> libraries at runtime - 
> what's the greatest number you've ever shipped with
> an app?
> 
> I've never used more than about a dozen or so
> myself; I'd be interested 
> in hearing if anyone's exceeded 25, or gotten
> anywhere close to 50.
> 
> -- 
>   Richard Gaskin
>   Fourth World Media Corporation
>  

Well, when I was setting up a big project, my original
scheme was to have one library stack per 'entity' - so
a library for everything to do with customers,
suppliers, articles, general accounts, etc. Not
exactly a one-to-one mapping with all the database
tables, but still plenty of library stacks would have
been needed.

As soon as I realized it was going to take more
library stacks than allowed, I took a different
direction, 'clustering' the libraries - not a problem
because Revolution allows for really long scripts (as
opposed to HyperCard's 32K limit) so this could be
easily compartmentalized.

Of course, I could have also padded my scripts with a
check-load-use-unload cycle - but it would have been
more convenient if I could just have them all loaded
into memory at the same time and as different files on
disk.

Jan Schenkel.

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