Re: question about find and replace
Thanks to everyone for help. A confession though. I'd gone through the replies one evening, and decided to get some sleep and start trying them out in the AM. Its a bit more complicated than the original question, because the numbers are embedded in a huge pile of xml. Anyway, I slept deeply and dreamlessly, and woke with a start, and a lateral idea, which is sort of like what the replies suggest, but done very differently. First thing was to export to a tab delimited file, open in spreadsheet, copy out the column with the numbers into a different file, save as csv. The reopen, and now set the delimiter to . This puts the components of the number into differerent colums. Now you can use the pad function of the formatter in the spreadsheet to pad them out. Save, and then open them with tab as the delimiter. This, the trick of changing the delimiter to split the column, was really what came from the suggestions, in a lateral way. Then you can copy the new edited column over the old one, in the original spreadsheet, and then re-import back into the original app. Took almost no time, and more important, it was pretty foolproof because of only working on the column to be changed, so no untoward effects. But I would never have got it except for the suggestions, which now all go into the scrapbook for a time when there is no plan B. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/question-about-find-and-replace-tp19737669p19832624.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: more rev 3.0 woes - losing the will to live
Hi Bernard, I'm sorry to read that you have more problems. Apparently, you save the stacks one more time, somehow. Make sure that your scripts don't save the stacks again, when quitting Rev 3.0, or set the Rev preferences to preserve the (legacy) format, or don't click Save when Rev asks you whether or not to save the stack. I go back and forth between different versions all the time and never see this problem, although I admit I have to be really careful that I don't accidentally save a stack in the wrong format. Is there anything else that might be relevant to reproduce the problem? I guess you could save a stack and copy it to a different place before quitting Rev 3.0, even though this wouldn't be a very elegant solution. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum/ Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 6 okt 2008, at 13:45, Bernard Devlin wrote: Since I've now had to revert to using Rev 2.6.1 from 3 years ago, I need to convert various stacks to 'legacy format'. After doing this with some of stacks, I then found that they were still in a post 2.7 format. I thought I'd made a mistake and went over it many times using Rev 3.0 and 2.6.1, but the stacks simply wouldn't convert. I was reduced to examining the stacks in a text editor to see that they did indeed say 2.4, but then as soon as I quit Rev 3.0 they would not load in 2.6.1, and looking at them again in a text editor, they were back in 2.7 formt. But yesterday I was able to save my performance test stack in legacy format (maybe it was written on 2.6.1 though, I can't remember). I just opened it in 3.0, and saved it in 2.6.1 as legacy and it remained as legacy after rev 3.0 quit. But here's what I'm seeing with some stacks: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ls *.rev perf-test-leg.rev test-legacy.rev [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ more test-legacy.rev #!/bin/sh # MetaCard 2.4 stack # The following is not ASCII text, # so now would be a good time to q out of more^L [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ more test-legacy.rev REV 3.0 was quit just before this point REVO2700�revNavigator 1 �R��global gScriptBuddyIDarray,gScriptBuddyLineArray,gSB UpdateSelection,gSBLeadSpaces I had thought maybe it was because these stacks were in the plugins folder of 2.6.1 that they were being reverted on exit from 3.0. But then I saved one of them to my home directory, and checked it was in 2.4 format. But as soon as I quit Rev 3.0 it was back in 2.7 format (as you can see above). At no point did Rev 3.0 ask me if wanted to save the stacks when I chose to quit, so I can see no reason why they are back in 2.7 format. I tried it on 2.9, and it too re-converted the stack on quitting. Could someone else please confirm this apparently erratic behaviour. I'm starting to doubt my sanity. The particular stacks were the stsmlxEditor and Geoff Canyon's revNavigator. Maybe it is only a Linux thing. I just want to know that saving in legacy format is still working reliably. I have a lot more of my own stacks to convert, and if this doesn't work, I'm stuck with the insanely buggy 3.0 (I have no confidence in 2.9 either - it locked up my laptop yesterday requiring a hard reset). Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: more rev 3.0 woes - losing the will to live
Bonjour Bernard, If you see in your text editor that a stack is not in the legacy format, it means that it has been saved on disk, by yourself OR by a code snippet in the stack itself. I don't use Geoff plugin but I assume that you'll find a 'save this stack' somewhere in Geoff code when closing or quitting. Checking last modified file date will probably confirm that the stack auto saves. Le 6 oct. 08 à 13:45, Bernard Devlin a écrit : Since I've now had to revert to using Rev 2.6.1 from 3 years ago, I need to convert various stacks to 'legacy format'. After doing this with some of stacks, I then found that they were still in a post 2.7 format. I thought I'd made a mistake and went over it many times using Rev 3.0 and 2.6.1, but the stacks simply wouldn't convert. I was reduced to examining the stacks in a text editor to see that they did indeed say 2.4, but then as soon as I quit Rev 3.0 they would not load in 2.6.1, and looking at them again in a text editor, they were back in 2.7 formt. But yesterday I was able to save my performance test stack in legacy format (maybe it was written on 2.6.1 though, I can't remember). I just opened it in 3.0, and saved it in 2.6.1 as legacy and it remained as legacy after rev 3.0 quit. But here's what I'm seeing with some stacks: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ls *.rev perf-test-leg.rev test-legacy.rev [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ more test-legacy.rev #!/bin/sh # MetaCard 2.4 stack # The following is not ASCII text, # so now would be a good time to q out of more^L [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ more test-legacy.rev REV 3.0 was quit just before this point REVO2700�revNavigator 1 �R��global gScriptBuddyIDarray,gScriptBuddyLineArray,gSB UpdateSelection,gSBLeadSpaces I had thought maybe it was because these stacks were in the plugins folder of 2.6.1 that they were being reverted on exit from 3.0. But then I saved one of them to my home directory, and checked it was in 2.4 format. But as soon as I quit Rev 3.0 it was back in 2.7 format (as you can see above). At no point did Rev 3.0 ask me if wanted to save the stacks when I chose to quit, so I can see no reason why they are back in 2.7 format. I tried it on 2.9, and it too re-converted the stack on quitting. Could someone else please confirm this apparently erratic behaviour. I'm starting to doubt my sanity. The particular stacks were the stsmlxEditor and Geoff Canyon's revNavigator. Maybe it is only a Linux thing. I just want to know that saving in legacy format is still working reliably. I have a lot more of my own stacks to convert, and if this doesn't work, I'm stuck with the insanely buggy 3.0 (I have no confidence in 2.9 either - it locked up my laptop yesterday requiring a hard reset). Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
more rev 3.0 woes - losing the will to live
Since I've now had to revert to using Rev 2.6.1 from 3 years ago, I need to convert various stacks to 'legacy format'. After doing this with some of stacks, I then found that they were still in a post 2.7 format. I thought I'd made a mistake and went over it many times using Rev 3.0 and 2.6.1, but the stacks simply wouldn't convert. I was reduced to examining the stacks in a text editor to see that they did indeed say 2.4, but then as soon as I quit Rev 3.0 they would not load in 2.6.1, and looking at them again in a text editor, they were back in 2.7 formt. But yesterday I was able to save my performance test stack in legacy format (maybe it was written on 2.6.1 though, I can't remember). I just opened it in 3.0, and saved it in 2.6.1 as legacy and it remained as legacy after rev 3.0 quit. But here's what I'm seeing with some stacks: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ls *.rev perf-test-leg.rev test-legacy.rev [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ more test-legacy.rev #!/bin/sh # MetaCard 2.4 stack # The following is not ASCII text, # so now would be a good time to q out of more^L [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ more test-legacy.rev REV 3.0 was quit just before this point REVO2700�revNavigator 1 �R��global gScriptBuddyIDarray,gScriptBuddyLineArray,gSB UpdateSelection,gSBLeadSpaces I had thought maybe it was because these stacks were in the plugins folder of 2.6.1 that they were being reverted on exit from 3.0. But then I saved one of them to my home directory, and checked it was in 2.4 format. But as soon as I quit Rev 3.0 it was back in 2.7 format (as you can see above). At no point did Rev 3.0 ask me if wanted to save the stacks when I chose to quit, so I can see no reason why they are back in 2.7 format. I tried it on 2.9, and it too re-converted the stack on quitting. Could someone else please confirm this apparently erratic behaviour. I'm starting to doubt my sanity. The particular stacks were the stsmlxEditor and Geoff Canyon's revNavigator. Maybe it is only a Linux thing. I just want to know that saving in legacy format is still working reliably. I have a lot more of my own stacks to convert, and if this doesn't work, I'm stuck with the insanely buggy 3.0 (I have no confidence in 2.9 either - it locked up my laptop yesterday requiring a hard reset). Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DCAM / IIDC command to control a firewire digital camera
Dear friends, I would like to control a professional Digital Camera from Revolution. I have to use DCAM protocol. Browsing in Internet, I went through the software Coriander (Unix). Have you any experience with that? Any idea? Thanks a lot Paolo Mazza DCAM DCAM stands for 1394-based Digital Camera Specification and defines the behavior of cameras that output uncompressed image data without audio. It is a standard, defined by the 1394 Trade Association. The IIDC (Instrumentation and Industrial Control Working Group) is in charge of it. IIDC IIDC is often used synonymously with DCAM. CORIANDER Coriander is a full-featured GUI for IEEE1394, IIDC-compliant (aka DCAM) digital cameras. It includes camera control, video display, saving, FTP and V4L export. http://sourceforge.net/projects/coriander ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
DCAM / IIDC command to control a firewire digital camera
From Revolution, how can I send DCAM / IIDC commands through the Firewire in order to control a digital camera? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Just pondering - Rev CGI iPhone
Hi Andre, Living in Vermont, I'm in the only state left that has no IPhone service (though that's supposed to change in 60 days or so), so I've not had the chance to play with one. But I could if there was an economic argument to be made for developing an app for it. From what I hear you saying, while we can't develop a traditional app for it, we can use Rev to create some interesting browser/Rev cgi- based programs tailored to the IPhone's specific screen. This sounds intriguing. Again, not having used an IPhone, is there anything more you can say on this or am I summarizing the opportunity fairly clearly? Thanks. Richard On Oct 1, 2008, at 11:11 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Ciao Sims, I've built some pretty sophisticated cgis with revolution and I've been doing little iPhone stuff. Be aware that you can't sell web apps in the app store. The app store is for native applications. Ops, I just re read your email, I understood it wrong. Yes you can do some pretty nice stuff for iPhone web apps, check the iUI library. Cheers andre On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Jim Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After fiddling with some Rev CGI stuff here for a couple of weeks, I'm wondering how far this might take someone towards a sophisticated web app for the iPhone. Just think'in, mind you. They wouldn't be sold via the Apple App store, but that just might have some upside, especially when considering the restrictions Apple can throw at developers ;-) I wonder what cool Rev CGI apps already exist out there? sims ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Notification of internet use in Rev standalone
On Oct 5, 2008, at 2:52 PM, Paul Gabel wrote: Hi Rick: I'm developing a rev app named ExamMaster where users take exams on a Mac (perhaps unsupervised), and I want to deter them from looking up answers on the internet. I certainly don't think of this as spyware. Paul Gabel Hi Paul, I think you are trying to take your software too far. You won't be able to guard against the use of internet cell phones especially for exams which are unsupervised. An unsupervised exam also allows students to communicate with each other about the test so they can still get answers even without access to the internet. That is why important exams are always monitored by a teacher. Your software will never be able to take over the important role of the Monitor in the room. Sometimes, teachers make exams so long that the students will not have enough time to answer all of the questions. I once had an open book exam where there were so many questions that you didn't have the time to open the book at all. One just had to know all of the material to be able to answer the questions. Have you built a timer into your exam software so that when the time is up the student can no longer work on it? Good luck with your project! Rick ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: First steps with Valentina ...
Hello, I am just making my first steps with valentina, switching from SQLite. So far everything works fine. I created my db, tables, filled the tables with datas, and now I just stuck to get the data out of the DB, because I am not a SQL expert. With SQLite I coded: put revdb_querylist(,,gConID,tSqlSting) into tList to get my selected datas as a sting. With Valentina I tried: put VDataBase_SqlSelect(gDBRef, tSqlSting) into tList and I get a cursor back. Now I am missing the command to get the data from this cursor. Or am I on the wrong lane? Thanks for any hint Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Just pondering - Rev CGI iPhone
Richard, The iPhone is using a special version of Safari as it's browser. This version has extensions that are specific to the iPhone and allow you to manage screen rotation, gesturing and the like. So you can create really nice web applications for iPhone. Revolution in this case doesn't really help iPhone web applications any more than any other web language out there, the real trick of doing iPhone web applications is the html, css and javascript extensions that allow you to create apps that fit the iPhone human interface guidelines (or at least a pleasant experience) The iPhone app store is making money, but I think it is hard to enter now, I've applied on august and haven't been approved (or rejected) yet. As for web applications, I don't know how to make money from them on the iPhone, I believe if you make a nice service you can pull it out. Something along the lines of evernote.com might do the trick. Evernote has native clients for mac, windows, iphone and also a web app, all sync'd it's very nice. I believe that an easy to use service with an interface made for iPhone and a grown up interface for desktops might be sucessful. Now if we only could use the geolocation api from the web applications, things would get really fun. PS: remember that as apple added extensions for iPhone Safari, it also removed features. For example, there's no input type file in Mobile Safari which sucks since I wanted to do an uploader for the camera pictures... Andre On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Richard Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Andre, Living in Vermont, I'm in the only state left that has no IPhone service (though that's supposed to change in 60 days or so), so I've not had the chance to play with one. But I could if there was an economic argument to be made for developing an app for it. From what I hear you saying, while we can't develop a traditional app for it, we can use Rev to create some interesting browser/Rev cgi-based programs tailored to the IPhone's specific screen. This sounds intriguing. Again, not having used an IPhone, is there anything more you can say on this or am I summarizing the opportunity fairly clearly? Thanks. Richard On Oct 1, 2008, at 11:11 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Ciao Sims, I've built some pretty sophisticated cgis with revolution and I've been doing little iPhone stuff. Be aware that you can't sell web apps in the app store. The app store is for native applications. Ops, I just re read your email, I understood it wrong. Yes you can do some pretty nice stuff for iPhone web apps, check the iUI library. Cheers andre On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Jim Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After fiddling with some Rev CGI stuff here for a couple of weeks, I'm wondering how far this might take someone towards a sophisticated web app for the iPhone. Just think'in, mind you. They wouldn't be sold via the Apple App store, but that just might have some upside, especially when considering the restrictions Apple can throw at developers ;-) I wonder what cool Rev CGI apps already exist out there? sims ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Notification of internet use in Rev standalone
Paul, make it a kiosk application, there are externals for that. I've built one and Ralf Bitter built another. They are both for Mac OS X and will prevent switching from your app to something else. Andre On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Paul Gabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody: My stack structure is a mainstack splash screen and three substacks. Within a Rev standalone, is there any way to be notified if the user opens a web browser or attempts to write an email with a non-Rev application? Is there any way to prevent it? on resumeStack is not helpful in my case, as, if placed in the mainstack (which is hidden by now), it is not triggered when I come back from a web browser. I can't place on resumeStack in a substack, because I am constantly going back and forth between them, and, even in a standalone, it is triggered. I would greatly appreciate any suggestions (or even being told to forget the whole idea). Paul Gabel Mac OS X 10.5.5 Rev 3.0 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Thrift library?
HI, Does anyone have a Thrift library http://incubator.apache.org/thrift/ written in Revolution? Regards, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Developer Resources: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com Email has been scanned for viruses by Altman Technologies' email management service - www.altman.co.uk/emailsystems ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: First steps with Valentina ...
On 10/6/08 5:02 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tiemo, I am just making my first steps with valentina, switching from SQLite. So far everything works fine. I created my db, tables, filled the tables with datas, and now I just stuck to get the data out of the DB, because I am not a SQL expert. With SQLite I coded: put revdb_querylist(,,gConID,tSqlSting) into tList to get my selected datas as a sting. With Valentina I tried: put VDataBase_SqlSelect(gDBRef, tSqlSting) into tList and I get a cursor back. Now I am missing the command to get the data from this cursor. Or am I on the wrong lane? In V4REV API Reference.pdf you can find description of class Vcursor. It have many methods as NextRecord(), Last, First... PrevRecord() GetField() It also have method as GetRecordsAsString(), so you will get back all records of cursor as single string with the specified field and line delimiters. And as I remember exists method similar to revdb_querylist() which return string of records without cursor at all. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: OT: First steps with Valentina ...
Hi Ruslan, thanks for the insight, I'll get into it. BTW, in the V4Rev_3_Reference.pdf is always a See ValentinaSQL.pdf for details, but I don't find a link to this pdf on your website, only a wiki link. Could you point me to this pdf? Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Ruslan Zasukhin Gesendet: Montag, 6. Oktober 2008 16:45 An: use-revolution Betreff: Re: OT: First steps with Valentina ... On 10/6/08 5:02 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tiemo, I am just making my first steps with valentina, switching from SQLite. So far everything works fine. I created my db, tables, filled the tables with datas, and now I just stuck to get the data out of the DB, because I am not a SQL expert. With SQLite I coded: put revdb_querylist(,,gConID,tSqlSting) into tList to get my selected datas as a sting. With Valentina I tried: put VDataBase_SqlSelect(gDBRef, tSqlSting) into tList and I get a cursor back. Now I am missing the command to get the data from this cursor. Or am I on the wrong lane? In V4REV API Reference.pdf you can find description of class Vcursor. It have many methods as NextRecord(), Last, First... PrevRecord() GetField() It also have method as GetRecordsAsString(), so you will get back all records of cursor as single string with the specified field and line delimiters. And as I remember exists method similar to revdb_querylist() which return string of records without cursor at all. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Thrift library?
Trevor, that appears very nice. I'd like to have it too. I've though about building a WSDL parser but this appears much cooler. We can use the new 3.0 arrays for the data models. Andre On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Trevor DeVore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI, Does anyone have a Thrift library http://incubator.apache.org/thrift/ written in Revolution? Regards, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Developer Resources: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com Email has been scanned for viruses by Altman Technologies' email management service - www.altman.co.uk/emailsystems ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: OT: First steps with Valentina ...
On 10/6/08 6:10 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tiemo, Hi Ruslan, thanks for the insight, I'll get into it. BTW, in the V4Rev_3_Reference.pdf is always a See ValentinaSQL.pdf for details, but I don't find a link to this pdf on your website, only a wiki link. Could you point me to this pdf? Yes, we have drop SQL.pdf about 2 years ago. Wiki allows us to have most up to date info. So yes you need check http://www.valentina-db.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=paradigma:public:en:docume ntation:vsql:reference:reference -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: more rev 3.0 woes - losing the will to live
Eric and Mark, Thanks for your attempts to save my sanity (of course, it could well be too late). I re-started 3.0, loaded stsMLXEditor, found the first guilty-looking 'save this stack', and commented it out... and then 3.0 crashed before I could even save it! Unbelievable. I couldn't face going through every stack and finding every handler that caused a stack to be saved. What I didn't understand is that I have checked 'preserve stack file version on stacks saved in legacy format' in Rev's preferences. Yet it seemed to be ignoring that in these stacks that have several of their own self-saving events. After searching bugzilla I found that it this is indeed broken: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=4695. Ken Ray provides a workaround for it: in the MB type: set the stackFileversion to 2.4;save this stack. After doing that and quitting Rev, the stack is finally in 2.4 and remaining in 2.4. Thanks for your commiserations. I know I must sound like my whining button is stuck on 'loop', but these have been the worst 5 months I've had with Rev in 7 years. Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: more rev 3.0 woes - losing the will to live
Bernard Devlin wrote: Eric and Mark, Thanks for your attempts to save my sanity (of course, it could well be too late). I re-started 3.0, loaded stsMLXEditor, found the first guilty-looking 'save this stack', and commented it out... and then 3.0 crashed before I could even save it! Unbelievable. I couldn't face going through every stack and finding every handler that caused a stack to be saved. Write yourself a little script that saves the defaultstack, and avoid the save menu item in Rev. Assuming the stack is toplevel and frontmost, something like this: lock messages set the stackfileversion to 2.4 save the defaultstack Rev's save menu item does something similar and sets the stackfileversion before saving, according to the rules you set in preferences. If Rev's save is broken you can just write your own. If you have a lot of stacks to convert, put copies of them all in a single folder. Your script can answer folder, get the files, and run a repeat loop containing the above lines of script to save each stack in the list in one go. Lock messages if you do this, just in case. Jacque -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: more rev 3.0 woes - losing the will to live
Bonsoir Bernard, Le 6 oct. 08 à 18:54, Bernard Devlin a écrit : Eric and Mark, Thanks for your attempts to save my sanity (of course, it could well be too late). I hope not :-) I re-started 3.0, loaded stsMLXEditor, found the first guilty- looking 'save this stack', and commented it out... and then 3.0 crashed before I could even save it! Unbelievable. Obviously there is no link between the fact of commenting THIS line and a Rev crash but a problem when compiling/saving the script. I couldn't face going through every stack and finding every handler that caused a stack to be saved. What I didn't understand is that I have checked 'preserve stack file version on stacks saved in legacy format' in Rev's preferences. Yet it seemed to be ignoring that in these stacks that have several of their own self- saving events. After searching bugzilla I found that it this is indeed broken: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=4695. Ken Ray provides a workaround for it: in the MB type: set the stackFileversion to 2.4;save this stack. After doing that and quitting Rev, the stack is finally in 2.4 and remaining in 2.4. Yes, Ken's advice is always very valuable :-) Always read all his posts: you can be sure there is something to learn... Thanks for your commiserations. I know I must sound like my whining button is stuck on 'loop', but these have been the worst 5 months I've had with Rev in 7 years. I am not the right 'Dude' :-) to tell you about Linux and all its flavors: I only work with Mac OS X, XP and Vista. But... I know that many guys here work with Linux and don't seem to have all the troubles you report: Have you tried to reinstall Linux completely? Any software is so closely tied to the system... PS. Hope you'll find the solution before the 6th month ;-) Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: more rev 3.0 woes - losing the will to live
Bonsoir Jacque, Le 6 oct. 08 à 19:05, J. Landman Gay a écrit : If Rev's save is broken you can just write your own. That's so true :-) Of course, we should not have to do it. But it's able to save so much time... Just see all patches posted by Ken, Chipp or myself along these years to fix easily a problem or another. Actually, Rev possesses an unique quality (I know that you know that but I don't reply only for you :-) Its IDE is written in Rev. This means at least two advantages: 1. You can study IDE scripts (even if they are not as clean as I would expect :-) to learn many things: tree views in 'Application Browser' for instance. 2. You can modify the IDE, add your own front and back scripts to override something, enhance another, etc. Actually, I don't know another language, the IDE of which can be (so easily) modified. Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: more rev 3.0 woes - losing the will to live
Hi Bernard, and others I have not followed this thread closely, so I may be way off base; however, I believe that you are using Rev on a variety of Unix flavors - true? Be that the case, since I think that few Rev developers/users are using Unix, it would be a big help if you were to indicate that you ARE. Particularly when you are having such difficulties. Otherwise, it is kind of scary to the rest of us. I'm even thinking that it might not be a totally bad idea to have different lists for the different platforms? I realize that a problem on one could also be one on the others as well, but This might not be a bad option. Anyone? I've been using 3.0 pretty much since it first came out - Mac OSX - and have not had any appreciable problems. Also saving as Legacy. A couple of kinks there, but probably associated with my not knowing the Legacy limitations well. So, my request is that maybe we can all better identify our platforms, particularly when airing complaints, so we may look at the things that most effect what we are doing. TIA Joe Wilkins On Oct 6, 2008, at 9:54 AM, Bernard Devlin wrote: Eric and Mark, Thanks for your attempts to save my sanity (of course, it could well be too late). I re-started 3.0, loaded stsMLXEditor, found the first guilty- looking 'save this stack', and commented it out... and then 3.0 crashed before I could even save it! Unbelievable. I couldn't face going through every stack and finding every handler that caused a stack to be saved. What I didn't understand is that I have checked 'preserve stack file version on stacks saved in legacy format' in Rev's preferences. Yet it seemed to be ignoring that in these stacks that have several of their own self- saving events. After searching bugzilla I found that it this is indeed broken: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=4695. Ken Ray provides a workaround for it: in the MB type: set the stackFileversion to 2.4;save this stack. After doing that and quitting Rev, the stack is finally in 2.4 and remaining in 2.4. Thanks for your commiserations. I know I must sound like my whining button is stuck on 'loop', but these have been the worst 5 months I've had with Rev in 7 years. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: more rev 3.0 woes - losing the will to live
Hi Joe. I understand and sympathise. However, for the first 4 months I was using Rev 2.9 on Windows and having crashes every few days during those 4 months. I've only been using Rev on Linux for 3 or 4 weeks. I'm only trying Rev on varieties of Linux because others keep telling me they don't see any of the problems I'm facing. Mostly when I install the version where they say they can't see the problem, I can still see the problem on that version. Things like that make me doubt my sanity. I've been very patient, and didn't complain much at all for the first few months. It's just that things have become intolerable. I can understand that I may be in a minority of one. But it doesn't make my life any more bearable. I'm sorry if my complaining causes distress for others, but I've come close to just giving up on Rev in the past few weeks. Bernard On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bernard, and others I have not followed this thread closely, so I may be way off base; however, I believe that you are using Rev on a variety of Unix flavors - true? Be that the case, since I think that few Rev developers/users are using Unix, it would be a big help if you were to indicate that you ARE. Particularly when you are having such difficulties. Otherwise, it is kind of scary to the rest of us. I'm even thinking that it might not be a totally bad idea to have different lists for the different platforms? I realize that a problem on one could also be one on the others as well, but This might not be a bad option. Anyone? I've been using 3.0 pretty much since it first came out - Mac OSX - and have not had any appreciable problems. Also saving as Legacy. A couple of kinks there, but probably associated with my not knowing the Legacy limitations well. So, my request is that maybe we can all better identify our platforms, particularly when airing complaints, so we may look at the things that most effect what we are doing. TIA Joe Wilkins ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Thrift library?
On Oct 6, 2008, at 11:16 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: that appears very nice. I'd like to have it too. I've though about building a WSDL parser but this appears much cooler. We can use the new 3.0 arrays for the data models. Hey Andre, Yes, it seems like a nice framework but I was hoping that I wouldn't have to write it from scratch :-) Thrift looks interesting in that it generates all of the source code for a language based on the Thrift file. You can create a Thrift definition file and then Thrift generates the source code required for interacting with your web service for a number of languages. The problem is that if your language isn't supported then it is kind of a pain. For example Evernote uses Thrift for their API so all of the required source code for interacting with their API is provided in C++, Ruby, Python, C#, PHP, etc. Since Revolution isn't included I have to find/write a Thrift library and then recreate the auto generated code (based on PHP or C for example) by hand. If no libraries exist already I'm thinking of trying to throw together a Revolution version based off the PHP version. The other route would be an external wrapped around the C++ Thrift code. There is a PHP extension but if your server doesn't have it installed then the code falls back to a pure PHP version. Regards, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Developer Resources: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Notification of internet use in Rev standalone
Hi Rick: I think you have a good point about exams having to be monitored. Modern technology can sometimes become cheating technology. As for the length of the exam, that would be completely up to the exam writer. And, yes, the exams can be timed. If you'd like (assuming you have a Mac), take a look at it by typing ExamMaster into Macupdate's search box and downloading it. Thanks for you suggestions. Paul Gabel -- On Oct 6, 2008, at 6:54 AM, Rick Harrison wrote: On Oct 5, 2008, at 2:52 PM, Paul Gabel wrote: Hi Rick: I'm developing a rev app named ExamMaster where users take exams on a Mac (perhaps unsupervised), and I want to deter them from looking up answers on the internet. I certainly don't think of this as spyware. Paul Gabel Hi Paul, I think you are trying to take your software too far. You won't be able to guard against the use of internet cell phones especially for exams which are unsupervised. An unsupervised exam also allows students to communicate with each other about the test so they can still get answers even without access to the internet. That is why important exams are always monitored by a teacher. Your software will never be able to take over the important role of the Monitor in the room. Sometimes, teachers make exams so long that the students will not have enough time to answer all of the questions. I once had an open book exam where there were so many questions that you didn't have the time to open the book at all. One just had to know all of the material to be able to answer the questions. Have you built a timer into your exam software so that when the time is up the student can no longer work on it? Good luck with your project! Rick ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN] VisualHubbaHubba utility (Mac)
Hi: VisualHub shut its doors a couple days ago, but the week before I had written a helper tool for it with Revolution 2.9. I have placed the app at http://www.kerflooey.com/VisualHubbaHubba/ in case anybody wants to use it or critique it. VHH provides a drag and drop interface to create user-sortable playlists of video files so that multiple DVD-video disc images can be created in batch mode using the playlists, for example overnight. VisualHub is Mac-only and so is my app, since it also writes an Applescript as its final output. Thanks, m ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Notification of internet use in Rev standalone
Paul, Hi, I've read all of the responses so far to your concept. Some are pretty good and you should consider them. That said, if this is for OSX only then why not just make the stack sized to the screenRect and then set the window type to systemWindow. That way the window while open will always 'float above everything' and not allow the user to even get to any other application. You may have to monitor active windows and if changed set the center of this stack to the active window if people are using Spaces or multiple monitors. This will not work on windows since Revolution does not treat the systemWindow the same on Windows. On Windows you can minimize the stack of a systemWindow to the start bar which would then allow the user to access an internet application. On OSX there is no minimize with a systemWindow. HTHs Tom McGrath On Oct 4, 2008, at 4:48 PM, Paul Gabel wrote: Hi everybody: My stack structure is a mainstack splash screen and three substacks. Within a Rev standalone, is there any way to be notified if the user opens a web browser or attempts to write an email with a non-Rev application? Is there any way to prevent it? on resumeStack is not helpful in my case, as, if placed in the mainstack (which is hidden by now), it is not triggered when I come back from a web browser. I can't place on resumeStack in a substack, because I am constantly going back and forth between them, and, even in a standalone, it is triggered. I would greatly appreciate any suggestions (or even being told to forget the whole idea). Paul Gabel Mac OS X 10.5.5 Rev 3.0 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: more rev 3.0 woes - losing the will to live
Thanks Joe, A most welcome point. I'm using Rev 3.0 on Vista and XP for some mission critical applications, and have not found any significant problems. I agree a title like this one can put others off. Bernard, I suspect your save issue has to do with some plugin doing an auto-save. I've always disliked the 'auto-save' types of plugins as you never know exactly what and when you're saving. You're welcome to use my altArchive plugin, which saves and creates a serialized backup. Also, I have a stackFormat plugin I wrote awhile back which also saves in legacy format. Note, these have not been tested on Linux that I'm aware of. Just enter into msg: go URL http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/StackFormat.rev; and go URL http://www.altuit.com/hemtools/altPlugin/revAltArchive.rev; HTH, Chipp On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bernard, and others I have not followed this thread closely, so I may be way off base; however, I believe that you are using Rev on a variety of Unix flavors - true? Be that the case, since I think that few Rev developers/users are using Unix, it would be a big help if you were to indicate that you ARE. Particularly when you are having such difficulties. Otherwise, it is kind of scary to the rest of us. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Thrift library?
Trevor, I am also using Evernote, I have it on all my computers and my iPhone. I checked the Thrift Wiki and found no information on how to generate your own language. It may be easier to parse the Thrifit IDL file from Revolution and generate the code than add the necessary bits to the Thrift own code base to generate Revolution code. I wish we could create externals from other languages, like python or ruby. Andre On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Trevor DeVore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 6, 2008, at 11:16 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: that appears very nice. I'd like to have it too. I've though about building a WSDL parser but this appears much cooler. We can use the new 3.0 arrays for the data models. Hey Andre, Yes, it seems like a nice framework but I was hoping that I wouldn't have to write it from scratch :-) Thrift looks interesting in that it generates all of the source code for a language based on the Thrift file. You can create a Thrift definition file and then Thrift generates the source code required for interacting with your web service for a number of languages. The problem is that if your language isn't supported then it is kind of a pain. For example Evernote uses Thrift for their API so all of the required source code for interacting with their API is provided in C++, Ruby, Python, C#, PHP, etc. Since Revolution isn't included I have to find/write a Thrift library and then recreate the auto generated code (based on PHP or C for example) by hand. If no libraries exist already I'm thinking of trying to throw together a Revolution version based off the PHP version. The other route would be an external wrapped around the C++ Thrift code. There is a PHP extension but if your server doesn't have it installed then the code falls back to a pure PHP version. Regards, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Developer Resources: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 3.0 for Linux is 8% slower than 2.6.1 ? (Bernard Devlin)
On Sun Oct 5, 2008, Bernard Devlin bdrunrev at gmail.com wrote: If anyone else has any other benchmarks, I'd be grateful to see them. Mine s3.0 for Linux is 8% slower than 2.6.1 ? eems pretty simple to me, and tests nothing more than a few functions, looping and adding to lists. It will only make any sense if you run the script on the same hardware, using a version of Rev = 3 and a version of Rev 3. Bernard Another test stack - also attached to bug report 5113 of the Rev Quality Center - has been around for some time: http://www.sanke.org/Software/TestStackPaintcompression.zip Although partly focusing on questions of paintcompression, it provides the possibility to compare engine and IDE speeds of different versions of Metacard and Revolution. One of the results measured by this test stack is that version 2.6.1 of the Rev engine has been the fastest so far when measuring imagedata processing. Other later versions have been shown to be up to 30 - 40 % slower than 2.6.1 in this respect - see the result page of the test stack. The new 3.0 Rev engine version has improved considerably over previous versions, but has not yet fully reached the level present in 2.6.1. Measuring speed differences with this stack is a very fast process, as scripts with a duration between few milliseconds and about 50 seconds at the utmost can be easily compared. Regards, Wilhelm Sanke http://www.sanke.org/MetaMedia -- Wilhelm Sanke www.sanke.org/MetaMedia This mail sent through http://www.uni-kassel.de/www-mail ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: more rev 3.0 woes - losing the will to live
I'm very new here and I thought it was pretty funny. Every tool has its drawbacks. Jim McNeely On Oct 6, 2008, at 12:23 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: I agree a title like this one can put others off. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: more rev 3.0 woes - losing the will to live
Jim, I agree, I thought it was damn funny.. I feel this way every couple of months right before a big break through Glad you're here... Tom McGrath On Oct 6, 2008, at 6:15 PM, Jim McNeely wrote: I'm very new here and I thought it was pretty funny. Every tool has its drawbacks. Jim McNeely On Oct 6, 2008, at 12:23 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: I agree a title like this one can put others off. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] VisualHubbaHubba utility (Mac)
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: VisualHub shut its doors a couple days ago, Yes, I was very sad to hear this as they were a responsive small company with great tech support who made an excellent product. Sigh. -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Thrift library?
On Oct 6, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: I am also using Evernote, I have it on all my computers and my iPhone. I checked the Thrift Wiki and found no information on how to generate your own language. It may be easier to parse the Thrifit IDL file from Revolution and generate the code than add the necessary bits to the Thrift own code base to generate Revolution code. I wish we could create externals from other languages, like python or ruby. The main Thrift library is written in C++ and that could be wrapped up in an external if that would be easier then having a native Revolution library. I think creating an external may be the way to go since it would be easier to keep a Thrift external in sync with the current Thrift library (drop in latest C++ files, recompile). Once we have a Revolution Thrift library (external or pure Revolution) then creating Revolution source code from IDL files shouldn't be too bad. The problem is that I don't think companies necessarily distribute their IDL files. I think they just distribute the source created from the IDL files; at least I didn't see any IDL files in the Evernote API distribution. Perhaps a Revolution program that could parse the C++ files generated by Thrift and automatically create an external project might be appropriate. Regards, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Developer Resources: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 3.0 for Linux is 8% slower than 2.6.1 ?
Bernard, Regarding your test stack. (Bottom of message is your test script) I'm not sure what the 'send in time' helps test? I think it better to just repeat your test as many times as you wish and not use 'send in time'. It adds another variable to the process. I can see where this test can be setup to run for a couple of hours using 'send in time'. But, running this test for a long period of time will not take into account any other background processes which may be taking place--thus slowing down the test and providing inaccurate results when compared to another test--even if on the same machine. It appears the only thing you are testing is the random() function, or perhaps I am missing something? Wilhelm's stack is a good benchmark example as it states and tests a specific function. Unless you are only trying to test the speed of the random() function, this test does not provide an overall speed test for Rev. Also, as a note, I typically try not to update the screen on benchmarks (writing to fields or message box) during the time calculation-- as these can represent yet another variable to the test criteria. Also, you are using the round function to calculate your times: put round ((the milliseconds - tStartMS)/1000) into tElapsed This has the possibility of introducing significant error. For instance, when I run your default setting of a 15 seed (on my basic speed desktop), it takes 21.48 seconds to run, but you round that number up or down (in this case it becomes 21) thus introducing a greater than 2% error. If I run a seed of 11 or below, it registers as taking 0 seconds, though it actually takes close to .4 seconds. This is also a significant error percentage-wise (infinity?). If I were to run this on a faster machine (like many of the Macs out there), the potential error would be even greater. Not to mention this error can be compounded by the number of tests you run in your repeat measure field-- which the default is 5-- so on my machine it is theoretically possible to have close to +- 10% difference in actual times vs reported times based upon the default settings. Not very reliable. Your throw commands are a nice trick to exit a handler: if fld repeat measure is not a number then throw repeat needs a number And I suppose you already know this, but for others reading, you may wish to provide the below errorDialog handler in your button script as well. Of course, it will only display when script debug mode is turned off. on errorDialog pExecutionError answer pExecutionError end errorDialog I hope this helps you understand why you may be having some problems. FYI, Richard Gaskin, a very experienced Rev user and benchmarking guru, has some good benchmarking tools which you might ask about, or search the archives here for. I'd suggest using a proven tool to help you get a grasp on this situation. ---BERNARD's BENCHMARK CODE - on mouseUp if fld repeat measure is not a number then throw repeat needs a number if fld send delay seconds is not a number then throw send delay needs a number put round(fld send delay seconds) into tSendDelaySize repeat with tCounter = 1 to (round(fld repeat measure)) put tSendDelaySize * tCounter into tNextSend send doTest to me in tNextSend seconds end repeat end mouseUp on doTest put the long time the pendingMessages put the milliseconds into tStartMS if fld seed is not a number then throw need a number to kick things off put round(exp(fld seed)) into tLimit repeat with tCounter = 1 to tLimit put random(100) comma random(100) comma tLimit return after tItemList end repeat put line 1 to 5 of tItemList into tNewItemList put round ((the milliseconds - tStartMS)/1000) into tElapsed put tElapsed return tNewItemLIst return the long time into fld result set the itemDel to . if item 1 of version() 3 then put old into tVersion else put new into tVersion end if set the itemDel to comma put tElapsed comma after fld tVersion put fld tVersion into tRunningScore if char -1 of tRunningScore is comma then put empty into char -1 of tRunningScore put (tVersion avg) into tVersionAvg put avg(tRunningScore) into fld tVersionAvg end doTest ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
