Re: Scrolling stack windows?
Hi John, Group all objects and set the rect of this new group to the rect of the card (you may need to make adjustemnts if you have a menubar). Set the hScrollba, vScrollbar and the lockLoc of the group to true. Now you have something that's very close to a scrolling window. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum/ Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 8 okt 2008, at 03:36, John Tregea wrote: Hello again fellow Revolutionaries : ) I have built an interface where users can keep on adding new layers of information down a stack window by clicking a button at the bottom of the bottom most layer (the button clones the last group and re-populates the fields to suit the new context). Because the users frequently want to display 6 or 7 layers one below the other they quickly run out of screen space. I believe there are no scrollbars that I can turn on in the stack window like I can on a text field? I hope I am wrong? But if I am correct can anyone point me to examples of scrollbars being used to scroll multiple groups within a window? Regards John Tregea ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: more rev 3.0 woes - losing the will to live
On Oct 6, 2008, at 4:56 AM, Eric Chatonet wrote: I don't use Geoff plugin but I assume that you'll find a 'save this stack' somewhere in Geoff code when closing or quitting. Checking last modified file date will probably confirm that the stack auto saves. The troll comes out from under the bridge... Yes, Navigator auto-saves when it closes. In my defense, when I wrote that there was no such thing as a legacy format, and (if I remember correctly) I wanted to avoid having a preferences file. As others have suggested, locking messages, saving Navigator in the old format and quitting all in one command should do the trick. So would re-downloading it, since I think all versions on my site are old- format. Not sure about that though. Heading back under the bridge now. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: VISTA Printing Woes
You are right. There is a world of complexity out there. Bernard On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:08 AM, John Tregea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This email made me laugh. It is a perfect example of why Revolution is such a brave and difficult product to deliver. Vista, printer brands, trays of paper and oh yes, Japanese :) Not laughing at the problem Nicolas, just the amazing complexity of the environment and the seemingly endless number of things we can all think of to do with it... Sorry I can't answer the question, if only the OS was speaking Mandarin? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicolas Cueto Sent: Wednesday, 8 October 2008 3:47 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: VISTA Printing Woes Hello, A 2.9-built standalone's printing function suddenly no longer works -- kind of. Looking thru the archives, a likely culprit is Vista. Anyway. I say kind of, cause I did finally manage to get a print-out when I over-rode my printer's automatic paper-tray selection option and, instead, manually selected front-loading tray. And only the frond-loading tray option words; none of the other three in-built trays works when selected. The (Ipsio) printer is on a network, and MS-Office applications (Word, Excel) have no problems printing. Oh, and I'm on a Japanese version of Vista. By the way. The problem also occurs with the Rev development environment. Hopefully, someone has more info on this problem. But I'm posting mostly to offer a possible work-around. Cheers, Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Scrolling stack windows?
Great news. Thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chipp Walters Sent: Wednesday, 8 October 2008 8:32 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Scrolling stack windows? copy button 1 to group 1 It works. On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:08 AM, John Tregea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or is there a way of cloning into a group the way I can copy into a card? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: more rev 3.0 woes - losing the will to live
The Troll wrote my only must-have utility for Rev. I love it. (If I ever continue working with Rev on Linux I think the stsmlxEditor will be my other must-have utility). I did get round the problem with the stackfileversion, but it took several hours to find out what was going wrong. It wasn't your fault. It's a bug in the Rev preferences. Bernard On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Oct 6, 2008, at 4:56 AM, Eric Chatonet wrote: I don't use Geoff plugin but I assume that you'll find a 'save this stack' somewhere in Geoff code when closing or quitting. Checking last modified file date will probably confirm that the stack auto saves. The troll comes out from under the bridge... Yes, Navigator auto-saves when it closes. In my defense, when I wrote that there was no such thing as a legacy format, and (if I remember correctly) I wanted to avoid having a preferences file. As others have suggested, locking messages, saving Navigator in the old format and quitting all in one command should do the trick. So would re-downloading it, since I think all versions on my site are old-format. Not sure about that though. Heading back under the bridge now. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Scrolling stack windows?
Dear Mark, Thanks for that. I think I would have to ungroup the existing top level group then select whatever number of clones groups the user is displaying and regroup them. Or is there a way of cloning into a group the way I can copy into a card? Thanks and regards John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Schonewille Sent: Wednesday, 8 October 2008 6:32 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Scrolling stack windows? Hi John, Group all objects and set the rect of this new group to the rect of the card (you may need to make adjustemnts if you have a menubar). Set the hScrollba, vScrollbar and the lockLoc of the group to true. Now you have something that's very close to a scrolling window. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum/ Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 8 okt 2008, at 03:36, John Tregea wrote: Hello again fellow Revolutionaries : ) I have built an interface where users can keep on adding new layers of information down a stack window by clicking a button at the bottom of the bottom most layer (the button clones the last group and re-populates the fields to suit the new context). Because the users frequently want to display 6 or 7 layers one below the other they quickly run out of screen space. I believe there are no scrollbars that I can turn on in the stack window like I can on a text field? I hope I am wrong? But if I am correct can anyone point me to examples of scrollbars being used to scroll multiple groups within a window? Regards John Tregea ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Scrolling stack windows?
copy button 1 to group 1 It works. On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:08 AM, John Tregea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or is there a way of cloning into a group the way I can copy into a card? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sending an e-mail without a dedicated e-mail client
Charles, If someone else doesn't chime in here shortly, search the group archive for SMTP library. I'm up to my chair in alligators today, so I'm going to be more-or-less offline until next week. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: VISTA Printing Woes
This email made me laugh. It is a perfect example of why Revolution is such a brave and difficult product to deliver. Vista, printer brands, trays of paper and oh yes, Japanese :) Not laughing at the problem Nicolas, just the amazing complexity of the environment and the seemingly endless number of things we can all think of to do with it... Sorry I can't answer the question, if only the OS was speaking Mandarin? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicolas Cueto Sent: Wednesday, 8 October 2008 3:47 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: VISTA Printing Woes Hello, A 2.9-built standalone's printing function suddenly no longer works -- kind of. Looking thru the archives, a likely culprit is Vista. Anyway. I say kind of, cause I did finally manage to get a print-out when I over-rode my printer's automatic paper-tray selection option and, instead, manually selected front-loading tray. And only the frond-loading tray option words; none of the other three in-built trays works when selected. The (Ipsio) printer is on a network, and MS-Office applications (Word, Excel) have no problems printing. Oh, and I'm on a Japanese version of Vista. By the way. The problem also occurs with the Rev development environment. Hopefully, someone has more info on this problem. But I'm posting mostly to offer a possible work-around. Cheers, Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Site Update - Tactile Media
Thanks Chipp. That's a nice compliment coming from the guy who's built probably 3 times as many demos and tools! I'm quite grateful for the contributions that you, Eric Chatonet, Ken Ray, Sarah Reichelt, Shao Sean, and many others have made. That's how we all learn (at least I do) so I'm glad to contribute a few things where I can. I agree 100%, Scott... plus the best part (IMHO) is that each person who contributes does so from a different background so you get to see not only different ways to solve a specific problem, but it also can cause one to make the next intuitive leap to add on to what's been contributed. Oh, BTW I also love the site... I saw a bunch of stuff I hadn't realized you'd done and spent an hour or so cruising... :-) Great work! Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Convert HC Stack to Rev - Without HC?
You might look into SheepShaver or vMac -- I have run HyperCard on my OS X Intel machine using both. Neither is a perfect solution, but both run well enough to get the compaction done. I particularly like the suggestion of running vMac/HC from a USB stick that I can just plug in whenever I need it (but I've lost the link to that; maybe someone else here still has it. You could try a Google on vMac on a stick.) Ken Ray has a tutorial on his web site on how to install SheepShaver, maybe he'll chime in with that link. Here you go: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/env006.htm :-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re-2: Sending an e-mail without a dedicated e-mail client
Hi Charles, look at http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/Downloads.htm for altEmailHarness or download it directly here http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/altEmailHarness.rev This stack helped me to understand how the smtp library from Shao Sean works. I am using the smtp library quite often in my stacks. But be aware, that sending attachments is not directly supported. Regards, Matthias Original Message Subject: Re: Sending an e-mail without a dedicated e-mail client (08-Okt-2008 0:40) From:Charles Szasz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mikey-3 No, I have no experience with the SMTP library! Are there any tutorials or sample stacks that illustrate the use of the SMTP library? Mikey-3 wrote: Are you aware of the SMTP library? That would be the way you would normally send email from RR without getting anything else involved. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Sending-an-e-mail- without-a-dedicated-e-mail-client-tp19865998p19868839.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
problems building a rev-valentina standalone on mac
Hello, I just switched from SQLite to Valentina and got it to run so far and fast in my Win XP DIE, but now I am struggeling with building the Mac standalone. I followed all Valentina docs, with running the deployment script etc, what seems to work fine, but my standalone on Mac doesn't find Valentina. At least VDatabase_Constructor() returns empty, without any error message. Ruslan told me that I have to get the v4rev.bundle in my app externals folder, but there isn't this bundle and I don't know how to get such a bundle in my app bundle. Actually I have done two things in my rev stack: 1. added the following to the external references property of the stack: V4Rev_2\V4Rev_win.dll V4Rev_2/V4Rev_Macho 2. Standalone app settings: Select inclusions for the standalone app: - Script Libraries: Database and Valentina2 (no Valentina3 available) - Database Support: Valentina2 (no Valentina3 available) What am I missing? Anybody with Valentina experience can help me starting? Thanks Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Site Update - Tactile Media
On 10/7/08 7:27 PM, Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently, Shao Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I agree with the posting that Mark made a few weeks back about not spamming the list with non-Rev related postings, Nah, that's OK. I get it -- she's right. :-) Not exactly, Scott. Your contributions and willingness to explore the limits of Rev and share are some of the things that make this community lively and worth-while. Many who are accomplished and at the leading edge will also have some commercial side. If you were merely saying come see my business, that to me is spamming. In this case, you have been a strong contributor for years and so much of what you have done is a professional level tutorial, available as a free download, and you will answer any questions on the list. I have not only learned from your free collection of stacks, I have set the bar far higher for my output to my clients. When I incorporate the graphic ideas you demonstrate (like Get In Line, Ball Clock, WindowLab, Weather), everyone is quite impressed and sees my software as more professional. I feel so good about making a Rev product look polished and professional and modern. By following your lead, I am a better programmer. Your examples have are quite welcome and like all of us, we would host them on some part of our existing web sites. Of course, not everything you do is free and directly related to Rev, but your download section is inspirational and priceless. If you kept your work a secret it would be a loss to the Rev community. So if you are not going to post here, put me on your announcement email list. The same goes for Eric, Chipp, Ken, Jacque, Devin, Andre, Alex, Wilhelm, Mark, and so many others. I want to be connected to what is happening with our community members, and it seems that this use-list is the only efficient way of making that happen. Thanks! Perhaps [ANN-OT] would be an acceptable compromise. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
List of all possible messages?
Hi: I was wondering if there was an explicit list somewhere of all possible messages that can be sent in Rev? Thanks, m ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Site Update - Tactile Media
Err Folks, I don't think it was really OT... I really liked the announcement. Scott is one of the most briliant guys here and the fact that he reworked his site and is providing free things for us, is enough for sending an email. We were never a explicity Revolution-Topic-Only group... anyone tired of receiving emails should change to digest or switch to web based interface. Scott congratulations again on your business and tools! I just spent couple hours looking thru your stacks... Swarms are so cool! Andre On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Mark Schonewille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well... I have to agree with Shao Sean, obviously. Then again, I think it would have been extremely easy to make the announcement on-topic. Just start the announcement stating that the location for free Rev-related downloads has changed and make the design change a side-note. Also, I must say that in my personal opinion making an incidental slightly off-topic announcement isn't as bad as posting an entire newsletter on a regular basis to this list. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum/ Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 8 okt 2008, at 19:22, Jim Ault wrote: On 10/7/08 7:27 PM, Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently, Shao Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I agree with the posting that Mark made a few weeks back about not spamming the list with non-Rev related postings, Nah, that's OK. I get it -- she's right. :-) Not exactly, Scott. Your contributions and willingness to explore the limits of Rev and share are some of the things that make this community lively and worth-while. Many who are accomplished and at the leading edge will also have some commercial side. snip ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Site Update - Tactile Media
On Oct 8, 2008, at 2:32 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Well... I have to agree with Shao Sean, obviously. Then again, I think it would have been extremely easy to make the announcement on- topic. Just start the announcement stating that the location for free Rev-related downloads has changed and make the design change a side-note. Come now, let's not be silly. The entire email discusses the updates to his site in regards to Rev tutorials. Hardly off topic. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Developer Resources: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: List of all possible messages?
Hi Michael, Try this in the message box: put the commandNames cr the functionNames cr the propertyNames It might also be interesting for you to search the dictionary for names. You will see that there are also driverNames, constantNames etc. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum/ Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 8 okt 2008, at 20:45, Michael wrote: Hi: I was wondering if there was an explicit list somewhere of all possible messages that can be sent in Rev? Thanks, m ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Site Update - Tactile Media
Bonsoir Scott, I can't stay without replying to all messages I have seen about your post: First your new website just 'says ' what you are able: kudos. I would be so glad to master graphics as you do. Second, I would like to know, among all who replied with some against feeling, how many have contributed freely to the community as you did. No more to say. Le 7 oct. 08 à 21:10, Scott Rossi a écrit : Hello Revolutionaries: Just a quick note to announce the redesign/release of Tactile Media's Web site (www.tactilemedia.com). The site update is not as important as a new Revolution Tutorials/Demos area available in the Software section of the site, which now features 32 free and open stacks, complete with thumbnail previews. As well as offering several new demos, many of the older demos have been rewritten, updated, and commented to be more understandable and flexible for use in your own stacks (for example, our GetInLine drag list reordering demo can now be used as a library and no longer requires screen locking to operate). There are really too many updates to list here. Stacks are still being tested for compatibility with Revolution 3, so you may run into some issues -- just let us know. In any event, I thought this would be worth sharing. Have fun, and keep up the revolution... Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: List of all possible messages?
If you're using Rev 3.0, you can also simply open the Dictionary, then under the Language disclosure on the left, select Message. :-) On Oct 8, 2008, at 12:54 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Michael, Try this in the message box: put the commandNames cr the functionNames cr the propertyNames It might also be interesting for you to search the dictionary for names. You will see that there are also driverNames, constantNames etc. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum/ Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 8 okt 2008, at 20:45, Michael wrote: Hi: I was wondering if there was an explicit list somewhere of all possible messages that can be sent in Rev? Thanks, m ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Site Update - Tactile Media
Well... I have to agree with Shao Sean, obviously. Then again, I think it would have been extremely easy to make the announcement on-topic. Just start the announcement stating that the location for free Rev- related downloads has changed and make the design change a side-note. Also, I must say that in my personal opinion making an incidental slightly off-topic announcement isn't as bad as posting an entire newsletter on a regular basis to this list. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum/ Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 8 okt 2008, at 19:22, Jim Ault wrote: On 10/7/08 7:27 PM, Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently, Shao Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I agree with the posting that Mark made a few weeks back about not spamming the list with non-Rev related postings, Nah, that's OK. I get it -- she's right. :-) Not exactly, Scott. Your contributions and willingness to explore the limits of Rev and share are some of the things that make this community lively and worth-while. Many who are accomplished and at the leading edge will also have some commercial side. snip ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: List of all possible messages?
Michael wrote: Hi: I was wondering if there was an explicit list somewhere of all possible messages that can be sent in Rev? A couple of ways, but one easy way is to open the dictionary, make sure the All category is selected on the left, and then click the Type column to aphabetize the list (you may need to click twice to arrange the sort order to ascending.) Commmands should now be first in the list, just scroll through to read them. Rev also has a function the commandnames which you can execute to get a list, which you can place in a field. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: List of all possible messages?
Chris Sheffield wrote: If you're using Rev 3.0, you can also simply open the Dictionary, then under the Language disclosure on the left, select Message. :-) Urf. That's even easier than my way -- thanks. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: [ANN] Site Update - Tactile Media
I don't think it was really OT... I really liked the announcement. Scott is one of the most briliant guys here and the fact that he reworked his site and is providing free things for us, is enough for sending an email. We were never a explicity Revolution-Topic-Only group... anyone tired of receiving emails should change to digest or switch to web based interface. Scott congratulations again on your business and tools! I just spent couple hours looking thru your stacks... Swarms are so cool! Absolutely agree. Scott provides valuable resources to the Revolution community. The community of active Revolution users is relatively small, and this list is the place the community goes to - so that makes it the Revolution community list. It is in the best interest of those who have made an investment in Runtime Revolution development for the active user base to thrive. The Revolution forums were set up explicitly so that anyone who wanted to limit exposure to a particular topic can drill down to a sub-forum that interests them. That is another method other the methods Andre suggests. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Mirye Software Publishing http://www.mirye.com Mirye Community NING http://miryesoftware.ning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Site Update - Tactile Media
Hi Scott, Absolutely fantastic work. Some of the effects are very clever indeed and rather thought provoking! I wonder what else we can make Rev do. :o) Steve Scott Rossi wrote: Hello Revolutionaries: Just a quick note to announce the redesign/release of Tactile Media's Web site (www.tactilemedia.com). The site update is not as important as a new Revolution Tutorials/Demos area available in the Software section of the site, which now features 32 free and open stacks, complete with thumbnail previews. As well as offering several new demos, many of the older demos have been rewritten, updated, and commented to be more understandable and flexible for use in your own stacks (for example, our GetInLine drag list reordering demo can now be used as a library and no longer requires screen locking to operate). There are really too many updates to list here. Stacks are still being tested for compatibility with Revolution 3, so you may run into some issues -- just let us know. In any event, I thought this would be worth sharing. Have fun, and keep up the revolution... Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-ANN--Site-Update---Tactile-Media-tp19865173p19885535.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Site Update - Tactile Media
Mark Schonewille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well... I have to agree with Shao Sean, obviously. Also, I must say that in my personal opinion making an incidental slightly off-topic announcement isn't as bad as posting an entire newsletter on a regular basis to this list. Years ago, before you were around, back when we started RevCon, Dan Shafer and I regularly posted here an announcement and link to our own Rev newsletter here on this list. It typically had some tips, and information on the upcoming conferences, along with some advertising for Rev products, some sold by folks like Ken, Scott, Jerry, Dan or Altuit. At that time we never, not once, heard a complaint regarding spamming of this list. I am sorry for you if such emails upset you. You may wish to consider using an email filter to remove those posts you do not like. Or perhaps visit the forums, where you can better police such issues. As Jim says, we are a community here. Please understand, over the years, many of us have gotten to know each other personally and are interested in such news as an updated website, or a new release of a newsletter. BTW, Lynn was not posting an entire newsletter, just the link to one. Do we really have a SPAM issue on this list? Let's not create a problem where one does not exist. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Site Update - Tactile Media
Come now, let's not be silly. The entire email discusses the updates to his site in regards to Rev tutorials. Hardly off topic. I second Trevor's statement, quoted above. Frankly, the best thing that came out of the complaint was the fact that the sheer number of responses attracted plenty of attention to the original post--which is, IMHO, a good thing. Thanks for the original post, Scott! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Site Update - Tactile Media
Chipp Walters wrote: Shao Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I agree with the posting that Mark made a few weeks back about not spamming the list with non-Rev related postings, So much for friendly correspondence on this list. ;-) BTW, If you take another look, you'll find some excellent FREE Rev demo stacks and tutorials on Scott's site. He's always been a champ at supporting Rev and this community--since before there even was a Rev! :-) I see the wink Chipp, but what's unfriendly? My reading of Shao Sean's comment was that it was her own post that she felt might be taken as non Rev-related (since the post was about the use of flash for website navigation, without a fallback for those who do not have the plugin). Full quote was: Shao Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I agree with the posting that Mark made a few weeks back about not spamming the list with non-Rev related postings, I'd just like to point out that you should always have a non-Flash fallback for your navigation.. Martin Baxter -- I am Not a Number, I am a free NaN ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: List of all possible messages?
I think he was looking for messages, not the entire dictionary. As such, I'd recommend Chris Sheffield's approach, just open the Dictionary and you can find them there. On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Mark Schonewille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: put the commandNames cr the functionNames cr the propertyNames ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sending an e-mail without a dedicated e-mail client
Charles, I have a test SMTP stack based on Shao Sean's SMTP library which simplifies things quite a bit. It only allows the sending of text emails, it's called altEmailHarness and you can check it out at: http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/Downloads.htm best, Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Site Update - Tactile Media
Trevor, I think you should read my message again. I'm saying, although (for the sake of sheer logic) I can't disagree with Shao Sean, I also don't blame Scott for posting his message! If you quote, please quote all. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum/ Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 8 okt 2008, at 20:54, Trevor DeVore wrote: Come now, let's not be silly. The entire email discusses the updates to his site in regards to Rev tutorials. Hardly off topic. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
strange char translation from intel to ppc
I have a stack where I use some non-printable ascii chars as delimiters (specifically, ascii 30 and 29). This stack worked fine on the Windows and Linux versions of 3.0 (well, until they crashed or went berserk, but everyone's tired of that story). However, when I moved the stack over to OS X (ppc), the application stopped working. Upon investigation it turned out that the delimiters had swapped - they were now ascii 222 and 218. Is that to be expected? Nothing else in the stacks seems amiss, and I'm puzzled by this. I had seen some strange behaviour copying them between platforms. When copied by scp, the stacks were corrupted, but copied fine by ftp binary. When copied by ftp as ascii, opening them crashed Rev 3.0 on OS X. It's not a big deal, but I suppose it might be a gotcha worth noting for anyone else who uses non-printable ascii chars as delimiters. Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: strange char translation from intel to ppc
did you put the actual characters within quotes in the script set the itemdelimiter to or use numToChar() I would always use the latter - script editors don't like some non-printing characters imbedded in a script, sometimes even within quotes. I have a stack where I use some non-printable ascii chars as delimiters (specifically, ascii 30 and 29). This stack worked fine on the Windows and Linux versions of 3.0 (well, until they crashed or went berserk, but everyone's tired of that story). However, when I moved the stack over to OS X (ppc), the application stopped working. Upon investigation it turned out that the delimiters had swapped - they were now ascii 222 and 218. Is that to be expected? Nothing else in the stacks seems amiss, and I'm puzzled by this. I had seen some strange behaviour copying them between platforms. When copied by scp, the stacks were corrupted, but copied fine by ftp binary. When copied by ftp as ascii, opening them crashed Rev 3.0 on OS X. It's not a big deal, but I suppose it might be a gotcha worth noting for anyone else who uses non-printable ascii chars as delimiters. Bernard -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: strange char translation from intel to ppc
That should be numToChar(30) -- did you put the actual characters within quotes in the script set the itemdelimiter to or use numToChar() I would always use the latter - script editors don't like some non-printing characters imbedded in a script, sometimes even within quotes. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: strange char translation from intel to ppc
When I want to refer to these non-printable characters in script I use numToChar. The place where they got changed was in actual text stored as custom properties. I'm not sure if this should be marked as a bug. I can understand if my original characters had ascii values above 127 that macToIso and isoToMac might be necessary, but not when the character values are below 127. Bernard On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:16 PM, Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did you put the actual characters within quotes in the script set the itemdelimiter to or use numToChar() I would always use the latter - script editors don't like some non-printing characters imbedded in a script, sometimes even within quotes. stephen barncard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: strange char translation from intel to ppc
Looks like it was bugzilla'd a few years ago: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=3681 It's a pity it doesn't work as I'd kinda come to rely on those unused ascii characters as delimiters. Bernard On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Bernard Devlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I want to refer to these non-printable characters in script I use numToChar. The place where they got changed was in actual text stored as custom properties. I'm not sure if this should be marked as a bug. I can understand if my original characters had ascii values above 127 that macToIso and isoToMac might be necessary, but not when the character values are below 127. Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Site Update - Tactile Media
I dunno, Mark, but I really don't see this as an example of Scott hijacking RunRev's bandwidth to cut into their existing sales base in that RunRev doesn't sell the same stuff that Scott sells. Plus, there is a wealth of free tutorials that are beneficial to Rev developers on this list. Plus, I seriously doubt that Scott is clearing $$$ on his TM|Gauge/Color/Audioclips etc.; rather, it seems that he is recouping some nominal value for a service to the development community. No disrespect intended to you or Shao Sean though... Judy On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Mark Schonewille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well... I have to agree with Shao Sean, obviously. Then again, I think it would have been extremely easy to make the announcement on-topic. Just start the announcement stating that the location for free Rev-related downloads has changed and make the design change a side-note. Also, I must say that in my personal opinion making an incidental slightly off-topic announcement isn't as bad as posting an entire newsletter on a regular basis to this list. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum/ Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 8 okt 2008, at 19:22, Jim Ault wrote: On 10/7/08 7:27 PM, Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently, Shao Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I agree with the posting that Mark made a few weeks back about not spamming the list with non-Rev related postings, Nah, that's OK. I get it -- she's right. :-) Not exactly, Scott. Your contributions and willingness to explore the limits of Rev and share are some of the things that make this community lively and worth-while. Many who are accomplished and at the leading edge will also have some commercial side. snip ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sending an e-mail without a dedicated e-mail client
Chipp Thanks! Since I am doing attachments, your altEmailHarness sounds like just what I need. Thanks again! Chipp Walters wrote: Charles, I have a test SMTP stack based on Shao Sean's SMTP library which simplifies things quite a bit. It only allows the sending of text emails, it's called altEmailHarness and you can check it out at: http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/Downloads.htm best, Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Sending-an-e-mail-without-a-dedicated-e-mail-client-tp19865998p19889149.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: strange char translation from intel to ppc
Are you sure this is a Rev bug? I seem to recall from the original post that the stack was transferred over ftp or some other internet file transfer. Did you try to zip it before sending it? I know some forms of file transfers can corrupt a file when sent over the internet. It is far less prevalent than it used to be, but that is why encoding was originally used. Files were converted to internet friendly characters because internet routers were originally only designed to pass text based files. Bob Sneidar IT Manager Logos Management Calvary Chapel CM On Oct 8, 2008, at 3:39 PM, Bernard Devlin wrote: Looks like it was bugzilla'd a few years ago: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=3681 It's a pity it doesn't work as I'd kinda come to rely on those unused ascii characters as delimiters. Bernard On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Bernard Devlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I want to refer to these non-printable characters in script I use numToChar. The place where they got changed was in actual text stored as custom properties. I'm not sure if this should be marked as a bug. I can understand if my original characters had ascii values above 127 that macToIso and isoToMac might be necessary, but not when the character values are below 127. Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sending an e-mail without a dedicated e-mail client
Charles, altEmailHarness won't do attachments. I only sends text messages. Plus, you need to set it up with a valid SMTP server in order for it to work. On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Charles Szasz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chipp Thanks! Since I am doing attachments, your altEmailHarness sounds like just what I need. Thanks again! Chipp Walters wrote: Charles, I have a test SMTP stack based on Shao Sean's SMTP library which simplifies things quite a bit. It only allows the sending of text emails, it's called altEmailHarness and you can check it out at: http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/Downloads.htm best, Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Sending-an-e-mail-without-a-dedicated-e-mail-client-tp19865998p19889149.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Site Update - Tactile Media
No problems here. Keep up the great work keeping this list active and informative. That's why I read it every day. Tom McGrath On Oct 8, 2008, at 3:20 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Do we really have a SPAM issue on this list? Let's not create a problem where one does not exist. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Convert HC Stack to Rev - Without HC?
Thanks for your help, Ken! on 10/8/08 7:27 AM, Ken Ray at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might look into SheepShaver or vMac -- I have run HyperCard on my OS X Intel machine using both. Neither is a perfect solution, but both run well enough to get the compaction done. I particularly like the suggestion of running vMac/HC from a USB stick that I can just plug in whenever I need it (but I've lost the link to that; maybe someone else here still has it. You could try a Google on vMac on a stick.) Ken Ray has a tutorial on his web site on how to install SheepShaver, maybe he'll chime in with that link. Here you go: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/env006.htm :-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Convert HC Stack to Rev - Without HC?
Thanks for your help, Jacqueline! Mark on 10/7/08 8:59 AM, J. Landman Gay at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Srebnik wrote: Greetings, Would like to convert a HyperCard Stack to Rev if possible. However, from reading Jacqueline's excellent tutorial on this I see the following problems. A) Since I use OSX on my MacBook at home, I don't have ability to run HyperCard; ie, no Classic anymore... B) Since I don't have HC to run and edit scripts before converting I can't 1) comment out XCMD's and FCN's as noted in tutorial... 2) edit script to change menu references.. Given the above, wondering if there's any workaround in order to do conversion??? Yes, though you can't do the (often required) compact stack part. You can click the Messages button in Rev's toolbar to turn off messages. This will eliminate any error reports while you go through the stack to remove the handlers that are incompatible. It is very important to compact the HC stack in HC before importing however. You may get lucky and things will run fine. But if you see missing cards, scrambled data, or incorrect images (aside from the alpha problem) then the stack needs compacting. On rare occasions an uncompacted stack may not even import at all. You might look into SheepShaver or vMac -- I have run HyperCard on my OS X Intel machine using both. Neither is a perfect solution, but both run well enough to get the compaction done. I particularly like the suggestion of running vMac/HC from a USB stick that I can just plug in whenever I need it (but I've lost the link to that; maybe someone else here still has it. You could try a Google on vMac on a stick.) Ken Ray has a tutorial on his web site on how to install SheepShaver, maybe he'll chime in with that link. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why I didn't, and why I may, later.
It's not as if Apple didn't give didn't give people HOW many years warning that PPC compatibility was going to be phased out! Judy On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 3:04 AM, Richmond Mathewson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Probably why quite a lot of people with PPC Macs feel cheesed-off about being excluded from 10.6. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Is there an all-in-one CPU/Touchscreen/barcode reader device?
I've seen lots of touchscreens with CPUs built into them, but I haven't yet found one that also has barcode reader build in.? Does anyone know if such an all-in-one device exists?? (Need a Windows solution) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Email Client (Outlook Express) won't start after console error
Hello all. After having a program error reported and then quitting the development IDE my Outlook Express won't start. I seem to remember some years ago having a similar problem and there was a registry key for Outlook which had to be reset so that it wouldn't run in invisible messaging mode. Can someone point me to this correction please. I have been searching for several days and can't find the right information. Thank you in advance. Mark MacKenzie Art Conservator Wet Plate Photographer Alcalde, New Mexico No virus found in this outgoing message Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (5.0.0.10 - 10.100.039). http://www.pctools.com/free-antivirus/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution