Re: Rev Group Meeting at MacWorld SF in January?

[Bill Vlahos]

I'm up for it.

Bill Vlahos

On Oct 21, 2008, at 8:04 AM, Lynn Fredricks wrote:


Howdy,

So who all is going to MacWorld this year in January? It may be too  
late to
get an official "birds of a feather" put together on the premises,  
but it

may be possible to put something less formal together.

Best regards,

Lynn Fredricks
Mirye Software Publishing
http://www.mirye.com

Mirye Community NING
http://miryesoftware.ning.com

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Pending message parameters

[Sarah Reichelt]

Hi All,

Is it possible to find out the parameters of a pending message?
I have a case where I have several groups doing the same things but to
different electronic modules. They all use the same scripts and they
might all have a pending message with the same name running.
I want to be able to do something like cancel a message of the
specified name only if it's parameter is "AnalogModuleA".

I suppose I can store the ID of each group's message when I send it
and use that for cancelling, but I have never liked that method.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: OT: 3rd-Party iMovie Titles that Don't Suck?

[Judy Perry]

Are you serious?!?!?

Bummer!

Yes, I have both the '08 and '06 versions.

Yes, I am looking for type/titling plug-ins that don't horribly pixellate.

Thanks!

Judy
http://revined.blogspot.com

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Jim Kanter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> iMovie 08 does not support plug-ins. Are you running the 06 version or 
> earlier?
>
> Are you looking for a specific plug-in? You mentioned type.
>
> Jim
>
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Re: OT: 3rd-Party iMovie Titles that Don't Suck?

[Jim Kanter]

iMovie 08 does not support plug-ins. Are you running the 06 version or earlier?

Are you looking for a specific plug-in? You mentioned type.

Jim

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:48 PM, Judy Perry
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm asking about third-party plug-ins kinds of things.
>
> I'm not certain that any amount of training is going to make the
> built-in titling features markedly better.
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[ANN] My New Blog.

[Chipp Walters]

Just a note that I've set up a new blog:

http://blog.chipp.com

There I'll keep post of new plugins and other tools I'm working on--
among other things. You are welcome to subscribe if you use an RSS
Reader.

best,
Chipp
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Re: Handling custom URL protocols in Mac OS X?

[J. Landman Gay]

Lyn Teyla wrote:

Hello,

I'm trying to get a standalone app to handle
a custom URL protocol in Mac OS X.

For example, something like this:

yippie://www.awesome.com/

I can get the custom URL protocol to launch
the standalone app, which is great (if you'd
like to know how this is done, see the P.S.).

However, within the app, I have no idea how
to find and extract the 'www.awesome.com'
portion of the URL that was used to launch it.

I've already tried checking $1, but it's empty.


Since you're on OS X, try an appleEvent handler. The dictionary has a 
pretty good example of one in the "appleEvent" listing.


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Re: Rev Group Meeting at MacWorld SF in January?

[Mark Srebnik]

Hi Lynn,

I'd be interested in meeting up with you and otherswould just depend
upon specific timing of it, given my job situation, but I'm only about an
hour away from Moscone... ;-)

Mark

on 10/21/08 8:04 AM, Lynn Fredricks at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Howdy,
> 
> So who all is going to MacWorld this year in January? It may be too late to
> get an official "birds of a feather" put together on the premises, but it
> may be possible to put something less formal together.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Lynn Fredricks
> Mirye Software Publishing
> http://www.mirye.com
> 
> Mirye Community NING
> http://miryesoftware.ning.com
> 
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Re: OT: 3rd-Party iMovie Titles that Don't Suck?

[Judy Perry]

I'm asking about third-party plug-ins kinds of things.

I'm not certain that any amount of training is going to make the
built-in titling features markedly better.

Thanks,

Judy
http://revined.blogspot.com

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Jim Kanter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What exactly are you asking about? Training?
>
> Jim
>
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Judy Perry
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Is there such a beast?  I can't financially justify FinalCutAnything...
>>
>> Thanks for any suggestions,
>>
>> Judy
>> http://revined.blogspot.com
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Re: OT: 3rd-Party iMovie Titles that Don't Suck?

[Jim Kanter]

What exactly are you asking about? Training?

Jim

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Judy Perry
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there such a beast?  I can't financially justify FinalCutAnything...
>
> Thanks for any suggestions,
>
> Judy
> http://revined.blogspot.com
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Handling custom URL protocols in Mac OS X?

[Lyn Teyla]

Hello,

I'm trying to get a standalone app to handle
a custom URL protocol in Mac OS X.

For example, something like this:

yippie://www.awesome.com/

I can get the custom URL protocol to launch
the standalone app, which is great (if you'd
like to know how this is done, see the P.S.).

However, within the app, I have no idea how
to find and extract the 'www.awesome.com'
portion of the URL that was used to launch it.

I've already tried checking $1, but it's empty.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Lyn

P.S. To get a standalone to open a custom URL
protocol in Mac OS X, open the app package and
place the following in Info.plist (right after
the CFBundleSignature key):

  CFBundleURLTypes
  

  CFBundleURLName
  Yippie URL
  CFBundleURLSchemes
  
yippie
  
  LSIsAppleDefaultForScheme
  

  

Then drag the standalone out of the Applications
folder (if it's already in there), and then (back)
into the Applications folder.

The custom URL yippie://www.awesome.com/ should
now launch the standalone.

Now, we just need to figure out how to grab the
URL from within the app!
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OT: 3rd-Party iMovie Titles that Don't Suck?

[Judy Perry]

Is there such a beast?  I can't financially justify FinalCutAnything...

Thanks for any suggestions,

Judy
http://revined.blogspot.com
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Re: Problem with mask

[Wilhelm Sanke]

It occured to me - I was already halfway asleep - that we might have a 
solution to Jim's problem,  no matter if there is a "within" bug or not.


As I reported, reversing the within-scan of the oval results in a mask 
with flattened edges on top and on the left, instead of on the right and 
at the bottom.


So, why don't we create two masks

one with

"repeat with j = 1 to tHeight
repeat with i = 1 to tWidth"

and the other with

"repeat with j =  tHeight down to 1
  repeat with i =  tWidth down to 1".

Then we combine the two masks with "or" for the opaque chars and get a 
perfectly rounded mask.--


Have to really get some sleep now.

Regards,

Wilhelm Sanke

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Gaussian pseudo-random numbers -- math issues

[Timothy Miller]

Greetings,

I'm interested an a modest statistics demonstration, but I can't  
figure out how do to the math myself.


I'd like to have a few lines of code that produces a sequence of  
numbers. (whole numbers would probably be okay). I'd like to specify  
the number of numbers generated. Let's call that Z.


I'd like also to specify the desired mean and standard deviation. I'd  
like the function (is this a function??) to work in such a way that  
if Z is large, the set of numbers generated, if graphed as a  
frequency distribution, would be normally distributed, i.e., Gaussian.


If Z is rather small, then the mean and standard deviation of the  
numbers produced will would only approximate the desired mean and  
standard deviation. Different runs would produce different actual  
means and standard deviations.


If Z is very small, like 3 or 4, the numbers will look almost random.

I hope I explained that clearly.

Optionally, I might also be able to enter a variable that would  
specify the desired number of digits to the right of the decimal point.


No favors are requested. I'd really be rather uncomfortable with a  
generous gesture. However, if someone has some code like this sitting  
around, and you're willing to share it, with a few notes about how to  
use it, I'd appreciate it. If not, it can't be helped.


H... I wonder if some website somewhere would do the work for me.  
That could work... I looked around, but didn't find anything.


Thanks in advance.

Tim Miller




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Re: Problem with mask

[J. Landman Gay]

Ken Ray wrote:

On 10/21/08 3:23 PM, "James Hurley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I don't know if this qualifies as a bug. Maybe there is a good reason
for this behavior. But it is strange.


I think it *definitely* qualifies as a bug, especially since I also noticed
that if you add:

   choose pointer tool
   click at 1,100

to your code, it *won't* select the square, but "click at 1,99" will... so
there's definitely something screwy going on here...


I wonder if it is some kind of OS standard, since the screenrect is 
documented with the same behavior:


"The virtual co-ordinates of a screen a quadruple of four integers 
specifying the left, top, right and bottom of the rectangle. The right 
and bottom edges are not included in the screen's area."


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Re: Problem with mask

[Wilhelm Sanke]

In the meantime Jim has sent me the essential script offlist from which 
I recreated a test stack.


He wrote (to this list):


Well, my problem with mask is no more.

Turns out the Run Rev within() function is a bit strange.

The masked ellipse is flat on the right side and the bottom because 
within() counts the left and top  of a graphic to within the graphic, 
but not the right and bottom.



Well, among the variations I tried with your script there is one where I 
reversed the direction of "scanning" the graphic.


"put the topLeft of img 1 into tTopLeft
 put item 1 of tTopLeft into x0
 put item 2 of tTopLeft into y0
# repeat with j = 1 to tHeight
 # repeat with i = 1 to tWidth
#now. reversed direction
 repeat with j =  tHeight down to 1
   repeat with i =  tWidth down to 1
 put x0+i,y0+j into tPt
 if within(grc 1, tPt) then
   put tClear after tData
 else
   put tBlock after tData
 end if
   end repeat
 end repeat"

The result of this change of direction is that now the flat edges appear 
on the left and on top, meaning we still need to define a "within" bug 
more accurately, but I don't know how.


Increasing the rect of the image so that it extends to outside the rect 
of the graphic does not make any difference.


In the case of Photo Patchworks such a strategy worked with a "padded" 
corresponding template image whose transparency mask was then used for 
the cropped image of the same size.
Only the "edges" I got from a non-padded mask image are different from 
Jim's: I get black lines by the side and not flattened edges.




Joe Lewis Wilkins pepetoo at cox.net wrote:


Hi James,

In one of this threads first responses, I implied as much when I said 
that you probably needed to subtract one from all right and bottom 
coordinates, since this has been a problem for a very long time. Of 
course, I don't know if just a minus one would have cured everything, 
but it may have helped.




Joe,

if what you mean is a change in the script  like here

repeat with j = 1 to tHeight -1
  repeat with i = 1 to tWidth -1

then you get a distorted mask because the mask data  to not fit exactly 
into the rect of the image.


I am still puzzled by this bug.

Best regards,

Wilhelm Sanke

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Re: Problem with mask

[Ken Ray]

On 10/21/08 3:23 PM, "James Hurley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I don't know if this qualifies as a bug. Maybe there is a good reason
> for this behavior. But it is strange.

I think it *definitely* qualifies as a bug, especially since I also noticed
that if you add:

   choose pointer tool
   click at 1,100

to your code, it *won't* select the square, but "click at 1,99" will... so
there's definitely something screwy going on here...

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/


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Re: Problem with mask

[Joe Lewis Wilkins]

Hi James,

In one of this threads first responses, I implied as much when I said  
that you probably needed to subtract one from all right and bottom  
coordinates, since this has been a problem for a very long time. Of  
course, I don't know if just a minus one would have cured everything,  
but it may have helped.


Joe Wilkins

On Oct 21, 2008, at 1:23 PM, James Hurley wrote:


Well, my problem with mask is no more.

Turns out the Run Rev within() function is a bit strange.

The masked ellipse is flat on the right side and the bottom because  
within() counts the left and top  of a graphic to within the  
graphic, but not the right and bottom.


You can see this in the stack:

go url "http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/WithinTest.rev";

(I suspect that I was responsible for the url failing in a previous  
message. I crashed my computer, and in the re-install my mail  
program got converted to RTF.)


A really simple test to see this behavior is the following:

on mouseUp
 create grc "square"
 set the type  of grc "square" to rectangle
 set the rect of grc "square" to 1,1,100,100
 set the loc of grc "square" to 50,50
 set the opaque of grc "square" to true
 put 1,1 into p1
 put 1,100 into p2
 put within(grc "square", p1) & cr & within(grc "square", p2) into  
msg box

 --I get True and false.
end mouseUpp

The left edge is within the square and so is the top, but not the  
right edge or the bottom.


I don't know if this qualifies as a bug. Maybe there is a good  
reason for this behavior. But it is strange.


Jim Hurley




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Re: Problem with mask

[James Hurley]

Well, my problem with mask is no more.

Turns out the Run Rev within() function is a bit strange.

The masked ellipse is flat on the right side and the bottom because  
within() counts the left and top  of a graphic to within the graphic,  
but not the right and bottom.


You can see this in the stack:

go url "http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/WithinTest.rev";

(I suspect that I was responsible for the url failing in a previous  
message. I crashed my computer, and in the re-install my mail program  
got converted to RTF.)


A really simple test to see this behavior is the following:

on mouseUp
  create grc "square"
  set the type  of grc "square" to rectangle
  set the rect of grc "square" to 1,1,100,100
  set the loc of grc "square" to 50,50
  set the opaque of grc "square" to true
  put 1,1 into p1
  put 1,100 into p2
  put within(grc "square", p1) & cr & within(grc "square", p2) into  
msg box

  --I get True and false.
end mouseUpp

The left edge is within the square and so is the top, but not the  
right edge or the bottom.


I don't know if this qualifies as a bug. Maybe there is a good reason  
for this behavior. But it is strange.


Jim Hurley
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[OT] Laptops for alcoholics ?

[Richmond Mathewson]

Reading further:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/2847679.stm

indicates that if users of alcohol powered laptops start tippling
they will go rapidly both blind and insane as the alcohol concerned 
is methanol.

And, on that intoxicating note I wonder if Runtime Revolution
can be used to develop software for any of the hardware devices
designed for blind people to use computers ???

and . . . Haptic Virtual Environments:

http://www.grab-eu.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haptic

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson.



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Re: Problem with mask

[BNig]

Hello Wilhelm,

I uploaded Jim's stack to revonline, user name berndniggeman. I added my
variation with 'ragged' borders and and adaption of Scott's script with the
use of a group and its alphadata-> smooth borders.

Hello Jim,

I hope you dont mind that I uploaded your stack, it is credited as yours. I
was not able to download it from your site and I wanted Wilhelm to get it. 
Regarding the bone :) I can not figure it out, why it you get the straight
line in your original script. Even if you offset it by 1 pixel to the right
and down it is a little better but still gives you the straight line. Maybe
Wilhelm with his experience all things Images finds out.

regards
Bernd
-- 
View this message in context: 
http://www.nabble.com/Problem-with-mask-tp20018648p20097836.html
Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Re: [OT] Laptops for alcoholics ?

[viktoras didziulis]

Those usually have plenty of sunlight. They would probably like having 
something this:

http://www.voltaicsystems.com/

Viktoras

Richmond Mathewson wrote:
This might be just the thing for those who do their programming 
while the whisky still is bubbling away in the garage. 

I wonder how well batteries filled with booze are going to do 
in countries where alcohol is either forbidden by law or 
frowned on by either religion or tradition?


sincerely, Richmond Mathewson.


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Re: Problem with mask

[Wilhelm Sanke]

I had written:


I still have to experiment with Ken's and Bernd's examples to see if
what they propose could also be applied to the various routines I use in
"Photo Patchworks".




Although I appreciate Ken's contributions to this list and generally 
very much, this time I meant to mention Scott Rossi.


For me those two more or less belong in the same category, hence the 
confusion.


Wilhelm Sanke

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Re: Rev Group Meeting at MacWorld SF in January?

[Mark Wieder]

Lynn-

I've completely given up on dealing with IDG. If you can get the BOF
thing to work, then more power to you.

-- 
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Re: Problem with mask

[Wilhelm Sanke]

Phil Jimmieson phil at liverpool.ac.uk wrote:


Hi Wilhelm,
if you take the %22 off the end of the link to the rev document, it  
works from here. The link to http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/  
also works from here.




The dreadful appearance of my post with three repeated links that 
contain %22 has been caused by our university mail program. These 
repeated links were not part of my original post and also are not to be 
seen in my "sent mail" folder.


Apparently not all troubles we had with our mail program have been 
fixed. Two weeks ago one of my mails had been sent three times!


But when I try to access websites I use the direct DSL-connection from 
my home, and so far I did not experience any difficulties with other 
websites.


I still get the "timed out" alert, but no stack, and no access to Jim's 
website.


For Jim Hurley:

I had a closer look at the oval-mask tool of my stack "Photo 
Patchworks"  (which has been waiting to be completed since several 
months), because I dimly remembered now there had been a problem with 
"edges" similar to Jim's, too.


The edges appeared when using a template mask image that had been 
"trimmed" right until the edge of the transparency, and especially when 
the corresponding selection graphic (to which the template mask is then 
sychronised) was scaled to a longer vertical or horizontal shape or when 
the oval was somewhat more decreased in size.


My solutions were twofold:

- I created an oval-mask template with two extra transparent pixels 
around the borders of the rect of the png.
- I created a mask with a very small transitional area between 
transparency and opacity.


No edges appear using such masks.

I still have to experiment with Ken's and Bernd's examples to see if 
what they propose could also be applied to the various routines I use in 
"Photo Patchworks".


By the way, for creating the template images for the 6 different shapes 
of the selection graphics, I use the Windows tool "RealDraw Pro" 
 a non-expensive program suited - among a lot of 
other possibilities - to easily produce transparency-transition areas of 
varying sizes.--


I hope that this time our mail server will send my post in its original 
form.


Regards,

Wilhelm Sanke


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Re: [OT] Laptops for alcoholics ?

[Luis]

They'd be emptied... ;P

New meaning to the word 'shorts'...

Cheers,

Luis.


On 21 Oct 2008, at 17:03, Richmond Mathewson wrote:


This might be just the thing for those who do their programming
while the whisky still is bubbling away in the garage.

I wonder how well batteries filled with booze are going to do
in countries where alcohol is either forbidden by law or
frowned on by either religion or tradition?

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson.


A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development  
Life Cycle.



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[OT] Laptops for alcoholics ?

[Richmond Mathewson]

Sorry, just the idea intoxicated me so much I forgot to include the URL:

http://www.hardmac.com/news/2008-10-21/#9049

Hic, Richmond Mathewson.



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[OT] Laptops for alcoholics ?

[Richmond Mathewson]

This might be just the thing for those who do their programming 
while the whisky still is bubbling away in the garage. 

I wonder how well batteries filled with booze are going to do 
in countries where alcohol is either forbidden by law or 
frowned on by either religion or tradition?

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson.


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Rev Group Meeting at MacWorld SF in January?

[Lynn Fredricks]

Howdy,

So who all is going to MacWorld this year in January? It may be too late to
get an official "birds of a feather" put together on the premises, but it
may be possible to put something less formal together.

Best regards,

Lynn Fredricks
Mirye Software Publishing
http://www.mirye.com

Mirye Community NING
http://miryesoftware.ning.com 

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Re: Problem with mask

[James Hurley]

Scott Rossi wrote:



I think I need to see this in a script if I am to understand the  
process.


I updated the "masked abe" stack to illustrate step by step how to  
mask an

image via snapshot/script.  Anyone should be able to use this.
In your message box:

  go url "http://www.tactilemedia.com/site_files/downloads/ 
masked_abe.rev"


Both techniques are flexible -- you can use any shape graphic as  
the source
shape for the mask -- but the 2nd technique allows you to use any  
object as

mask, not just a graphic.



These are clearly superior to what I was getting, but I'm trying to
understand where I went wrong.


I'm sure there's a logical explanation, but I'm more of the mindset  
that if
it doesn't work one way, figure out another way, get back to work,  
and ask

questions later. :-)

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design



Scott,

The latest mask for Abe is a TERRIFIC TUTORIAL! (If anyone else is  
interested in these masking issues check out the "go url" above.)


And it works like a charm. The commented script is very easy to follow.

I used it to test whether the problem I was having might have been  
due to antialiasing. I ran your newAlphaData variable through a  
charToNum handler to see the tail ends of the mask and there is  
antialiasing, a few lines of 8 or 20 or 30 at either end of the 255s.  
Just to see the effect of taking these out I ran the newAlphaData  
through the following:


  repeat for each char tChar in newAlphaData
if tChar is numToChar(255) or tChar is numTOChar(0) then
  put tChar after results
else
  put numToChar(0) after results--or numToChar(255)
end if
  end repeat
  put results into newALphaData

There was no visible difference on the edges. So I doubt that my  
problem with the flat edges was an antialiasing problem. But this  
isn't a definitive test of course.


Sorry to be hung up on this issue. It's a dog with a bone problem for  
me. I am not as interested in making it work as I am understanding  
why it does, or rather doesn't.


Jim  Hurley

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AW: stack design with externals?

[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Hello Franz,
very comprehensive explanation! I will follow that
Thank you
Tiemo

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> An: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
> Betreff: Re: stack design with externals?
> 
> Hallo Tiemo,
> 
> I hope I understood your question:
> I have the experience, that 1) the runrev standalone always expects the
> Externals in the subfolder of the defaultfolder, which is normaly the
> folder where the standalone is located and this location is expected by
> other stacks also which start from the same standalone (not relational to
> the location of any rev-stack), and 2) you can set the External location
> of any stack in "the externals of stack xyz", if you use to change the
> defaultfolder during the program:
> 
> 
> 1)
> if you make a standalone
> 
> teachit.exe
> 
> with all the externals these are located in the subfolder /External:
> 
> teachit.exe
> ssleay32.dll
> libeay32.dll
> External/revbrowser.dll
> External/rev...
> External/database_drivers/dbmysql.dll
> ...
> 
> 
> The standalone can go to other rev stacks even on webserver etc. but my
> experience is that the externals always will be found in the subdir
> /External.
> 
> You can use in the standalone.exe
> go stack "teachA.rev" in window (the windowID of this stack)
> AND/OR
> go stack URL http://myserver/stack.rev in a new window
> 
> if these stacks need externals and they are present in the subfolder of
> the stack where the standalone is located, it works.
> 
> => Therefore I once have prepared a start.exe with all externals I have,
> which in the openstack script automatically loads an stack with the same
> name, but rev at the end.
> 
> I rename this start.exe as project1.exe, put project1.rev in the same
> folder with the dlls and the External folder and it works.
> I only make a new standalone, if a new runrev version is published and I
> need it. In the normal case I just copy my start.exe as a loader to the
> actual project.rev.
> And they always find the revBrowser External ... therefore I guess this
> also the case with Valentina.
> 
> 2) doku "external"
> Examples:
> set the externals of stack "Apps" to field "Executables"
> 
> Use the externals property to use the externals in the specified files.
> Value:
> The externals of a stack reports a list of file paths, one per line.
> Comments:
> Each line of the externals specifies the name and location of a file
> containing external commands and external functions. If you specify a name
> but not a location, the file is assumed to be in the defaultFolder.
> Regards und freundliche Grüße,
> 
> Franz
> 
> Franz Böhmisch
> 
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> Fax +49 (0)8501-8537
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Re: stack design with externals?

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Hallo Tiemo,

I hope I understood your question:
I have the experience, that 1) the runrev standalone always expects the 
Externals in the subfolder of the defaultfolder, which is normaly the folder 
where the standalone is located and this location is expected by other stacks 
also which start from the same standalone (not relational to the location of 
any rev-stack), and 2) you can set the External location of any stack in "the 
externals of stack xyz", if you use to change the defaultfolder during the 
program:


1)
if you make a standalone 

teachit.exe

with all the externals these are located in the subfolder /External:

teachit.exe
ssleay32.dll
libeay32.dll
External/revbrowser.dll
External/rev...
External/database_drivers/dbmysql.dll
...


The standalone can go to other rev stacks even on webserver etc. but my 
experience is that the externals always will be found in the subdir /External.

You can use in the standalone.exe
go stack "teachA.rev" in window (the windowID of this stack)
AND/OR
go stack URL http://myserver/stack.rev in a new window

if these stacks need externals and they are present in the subfolder of the 
stack where the standalone is located, it works.

=> Therefore I once have prepared a start.exe with all externals I have, which 
in the openstack script automatically loads an stack with the same name, but 
rev at the end.

I rename this start.exe as project1.exe, put project1.rev in the same folder 
with the dlls and the External folder and it works.
I only make a new standalone, if a new runrev version is published and I need 
it. In the normal case I just copy my start.exe as a loader to the actual 
project.rev.
And they always find the revBrowser External ... therefore I guess this also 
the case with Valentina.

2) doku "external"
Examples: 
set the externals of stack "Apps" to field "Executables"

Use the externals property to use the externals in the specified files.
Value:
The externals of a stack reports a list of file paths, one per line.
Comments:
Each line of the externals specifies the name and location of a file containing 
external commands and external functions. If you specify a name but not a 
location, the file is assumed to be in the defaultFolder.
Regards und freundliche Grüße,

Franz

Franz Böhmisch

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.animabit.de
GF Animabit Multimedia Software GmbH
Am Sonnenhang 22
D-94136 Thyrnau
Tel +49 (0)8501-8538
Fax +49 (0)8501-8537
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Re: Problem with mask

[Phil Jimmieson]

Hi Wilhelm,
if you take the %22 off the end of the link to the rev document, it  
works from here. The link to http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/  
also works from here.


On 21 Oct 2008, at 10:50, Wilhelm Sanke wrote:

I had already  told you in my last post that I could not download  
your stack


http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/MaskingToEllipse.rev 


and only get a "no such card" message in the msg.

And I also cannot establish a connection to your website

http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/  or


http://home.infostations.net/ 


What I get are "timed out" alerts, both from my Windows machine and  
my Mac. Maybe it is a bandwidth problem?


Could you upload your stack elsewhere (RevOnline?)?

Best regards,

Wilhelm Sanke


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Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton  
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Liverpool L69 3BX  http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/
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Re: Problem with mask

[Wilhelm Sanke]

I had already  told you in my last post that I could not download your stack

http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/MaskingToEllipse.rev 


and only get a "no such card" message in the msg.

And I also cannot establish a connection to your website

http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/ 
 or

http://home.infostations.net/ 


What I get are "timed out" alerts, both from my Windows machine and my Mac. 
Maybe it is a bandwidth problem?


Could you upload your stack elsewhere (RevOnline?)?

Best regards,

Wilhelm Sanke


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Re: My replies are bouncing

[Eric Chatonet]

Bonjour Jim,

Always write to the list in plain text and not in html:
Even if you believe being in plain text when you look at your email,  
may be are you going to send html that is much more heavy.

It's probably the reason why you reach the 15 KB limit so easily ;-)

Le 21 oct. 08 à 06:25, James Hurley a écrit :


Why is this happening to me?

This is  the  fourth time I've tried to reply to the list (Scott  
and Wilhelm) and my message comes back saying it is too long. For  
example:


   "Message body is too big: 20309 bytes with a limit of 15 KB"

There is no way the message was 20 megs.

Am I buggy?


Best regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet.

Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/
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AW: Are the icons and color of a fields scrollbar editable?

[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Hi Chipp,
I'll have a look to it,
Thanks for sharing!
Tiemo

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> An: How to use Revolution
> Betreff: Re: Are the icons and color of a fields scrollbar editable?
> 
> Tiemo,
> I wrote a custom scrollbar object which is very easy to customize and
> works
> well with fields. From a previous post:
> 
> Here's a plugin which allows one to create custom colored scrollbars for
> fields in Rev. It's ONLY BEEN TESTED ON WinXP. So, any of you Mac, Vista
> or
> Linux folks can check it out and let me know if it works.
> 
> It's pretty simple and not as beautiful or fancy as those created by Scott
> Rossi, but it's definitely a 'no frills' approach, which has minimum
> impact.
> It's works like my altFldHeader which puts buttons at the top of fields
> for
> sorting tables, etc.
> 
> To download it, just type into the msg box (or cut/paste)
> 
> go URL "http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/altFldScroller.rev";
> 
> Then be sure and save. Make sure and run this in palette mode. If you use
> altPluginToolbar, it will install and automatically run in palette mode.
> 
> best, Chipp
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