Any chance to identify if the title of a stack is corrupted by QT?

[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Hello,

still trying to find a workaround for the bug corrupting the title bar (QCC
6235)

Because it happens at a minority of my betatests I wanted to figure out, if
I have a chance to identify, if the title is still ok or corrupted. If it is
corrupted, I wanted to set it to empty - an empty title bar is better as a
corrupted - and if it is not corrupted, I could let it as it is for the
majority of the users.

Just getting the title and comparing it with the original, doesn't work,
because even if it is corrupted it gets me the correct, original title.
Obviously it's "just" a rendering thing.

If it's not possible I think I have to set the title to empty for all users,
not nice, but better as hyroglyphs

Any idea, how to detect, if the title is corrupted or not for a workaround?

Thanks for any ideas

Tiemo

 

 

 

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AW: AW: Can a modal stack has a close box?

[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Hi Ken, yup, thanks for you 2 cents
Tiemo

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-
> boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Ken Ray
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. Februar 2009 21:21
> An: Use Revolution List
> Betreff: Re: AW: Can a modal stack has a close box?
> 
> 
> > hmmm, perhaps I took the wrong approach. What I wanted to do is a
> welcome
> > screen with some basic infos on first start. The User should read the
> infos
> > first, before going on, that¹s why I wanted modal. And this welcome
> window
> > just has 1 only button "close". The close box in the title bar actually
> > would be a duplicate, but an offer to the users, who are used to close
> > windows with the close box...
> 
> Tiemo, in that case you can use a modeless dialog, which will give you the
> closebox. True it's not truly modal, but then again it doesn't have to be
> -
> they can close it when they want to and it shouldn't interfere with the
> rest
> of your app, even if they submarine it by clicking on another window. This
> is like the About boxes in Mac apps...
> 
> Just my 2 cents,
> 
> Ken Ray
> Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
> Email: k...@sonsothunder.com
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Re: How to compare bettwen .rev file

[Mark Wieder]

Tran-

I usually store the version number and date in a custom property of
the stack. Then I can query the custom property to see what I've got.
Something like:

set the uVersion of this stack to 3.14
set the uDate of this stack to "17 February 2009"

--then

if there is a file tFileToUpdate then
  get the uVersion of file tFileToUpdate
  if it < tNewVersion then
update it
  end if
end if

-- 
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Re: How to compare bettwen .rev file

[Brian Yennie]

Joe, Tran,

Building on this - instead of counting characters, you could run the  
scripts through md5Digest(). Using a hash value is a common approach  
to detecting changes that works very well for almost all cases.


It all really depends on the level of changes you need to see - but if  
it's just scripting changes, looping through all objects and comparing  
their md5Digest() values is a good start. If you want more in-depth  
analysis (for example tracking property changes to objects or the  
formatting of text), it could be quite a bit more work.


Since there is no "true" version tracking / merging tool for Rev, it  
also has a lot to do with your collaborative process. A few people  
here have their own homegrown tools for versioning that work quite  
well. For those accustomed to CVS / SVN it's not quite the same ball  
game, but that's arguably a good thing =).


- Brian


HI Tran,

This is a fascinating problem; and, probably, not all that difficult  
to resolve.


Write a handler that you attach to a button on each stack that  
creates a numerical list of all the items in the stack, including  
the number of characters in each of the handlers in each of the  
scripts of the items. This might not "always" show differences if  
coincidentally changes are made using the same number of characters,  
but that is not too likely. Send the listings to a file; print the  
file and compare the print-outs. A scripted comparison could be  
made, but is probably not worth doing. This should not be all that  
difficult.


HTH,

Joe Wilkins

On Feb 17, 2009, at 7:53 PM, Nhan, Tran Thi Thanh wrote:


Dear all,

Is there any one who can help answer this question? My group are
developing a project and how can we compare the difference  
between .rev
file to know what each one does on the same file because we usually  
copy

the same file to each one's computer and modified.

Thanks so much,

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Re: How to compare bettwen .rev file

[Joe Lewis Wilkins]

HI Tran,

This is a fascinating problem; and, probably, not all that difficult  
to resolve.


Write a handler that you attach to a button on each stack that creates  
a numerical list of all the items in the stack, including the number  
of characters in each of the handlers in each of the scripts of the  
items. This might not "always" show differences if coincidentally  
changes are made using the same number of characters, but that is not  
too likely. Send the listings to a file; print the file and compare  
the print-outs. A scripted comparison could be made, but is probably  
not worth doing. This should not be all that difficult.


HTH,

Joe Wilkins

On Feb 17, 2009, at 7:53 PM, Nhan, Tran Thi Thanh wrote:


Dear all,

Is there any one who can help answer this question? My group are
developing a project and how can we compare the difference  
between .rev
file to know what each one does on the same file because we usually  
copy

the same file to each one's computer and modified.

Thanks so much,


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How to compare bettwen .rev file

[Nhan, Tran Thi Thanh]

Dear all,

Is there any one who can help answer this question? My group are
developing a project and how can we compare the difference between .rev
file to know what each one does on the same file because we usually copy
the same file to each one's computer and modified.

Thanks so much,


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Re: Good looking examples of applications built with Revolution

[Mark Smith]

On 18 Feb 2009, at 02:23, J. Landman Gay wrote:


Kay C Lan wrote:
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:42 AM, Thomas McGrath III  
wrote:
I always thought there weren't enough list romances on this list.  
Finally

we see the first seedy tidbits of one.

That's because the root of the problem is with dateItems ;-)


Does that mean I have to convert for him?



Depends on whether you want a long or short date - I'm sure no-one  
really wants an internet datefor those really lacking in  
confidence there's always ISO dates :)

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Re: Good looking examples of applications built with Revolution

[J. Landman Gay]

Kay C Lan wrote:

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:42 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:


I always thought there weren't enough list romances on this list. Finally
we see the first seedy tidbits of one.

That's because the root of the problem is with dateItems ;-)


Does that mean I have to convert for him?

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Re: Arrays and Custom Props

[Kay C Lan]

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Richard Gaskin
wrote:


> See the Dictionary:
> getResources
> getResource
> setResource
>

Which I have. Thanks again to this List, I don't think there would be any
other way I'd ever have conceived as to why I'd ever look these up.

>
> Good for as long as Apple continues to support resource forks (I give it
> until OS XI).


Sounds like a full 12/12 warranty to me. 12" or 12 sec, whichever comes
first ;-)

Oh, and you sure it won't be OS Y ? ;-)
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Re: Good looking examples of applications built with Revolution

[Kay C Lan]

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:42 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:

> I always thought there weren't enough list romances on this list. Finally
> we see the first seedy tidbits of one.
>
> That's because the root of the problem is with dateItems ;-)
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Re: Arrays and Custom Props

[Richard Gaskin]

Kay C Lan wrote:


On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Richard Gaskin
wrote:

So while these various different parts are technically in the same file,
this is merely a clever trick of the legacy file system which still supports
resource forks.  As such, it's just one level of misdirection away from
being more or less the same as a bundle in terms of code and data being
separate.

As I said, I have no clue on what's going on under the hood, so thanks for

taking time to 'pop the bonnet' and explain what the 'half ball and svetzer
valve' do. ;-)


Ah, but it's more than mere techie gadgetry:  Using Rev's built in 
resource functions you not only have another means of accomplishing your 
original goal, but indeed the very one AppleScript uses.


See the Dictionary:
getResources
getResource
setResource

Good for as long as Apple continues to support resource forks (I give it 
until OS XI).


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Re: [OT] Rev + BBEdit

[Kay C Lan]

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Robert Brenstein  wrote:

> On 17.02.09 at 12:18 + Ben Rubinstein apparently wrote:
>
>> Perhaps I've missed something, but I think that both these excellent
>> facilities are indeed available in 3.0.
>
>
> Hey, Ben, you are right. Amazing! These things are in 3.0! Somehow, I only
> used what they call the quick find. I need to spend more time in that
> editor.
>
> You've gotta love this List!

I'm never ever going to have enough time to go through every menu,menu item
and sub items. I keep coming back to this List because there's always
something new to learn :-)
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Music duration

[Kurt Kaufman]

René,
You need first of all to understand what you are seeing in the Hex  
Editor.  All of the MIDI data (including the data that is not  
printable in ascii text) is represented in Hexadecimal notation.  It  
would be a good idea to practice a some conversions from Decimal to  
Hexadecimal (and the reverse); you'll get used to reading base-16.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexadecimal


-Kurt




--- On Tue, 2/17/09, René Micout <[]> wrote:

> ...I have many questions > ?
> The most important are lines 22, 30, 38 46 about note data,
> by example line 22 :
> 903C648400803C
> I think 03C is the pitch (!?) and 64844008 is the duration
> (!?)...

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Re: Arrays and Custom Props

[Kay C Lan]

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Richard Gaskin
wrote:

>
> So while these various different parts are technically in the same file,
> this is merely a clever trick of the legacy file system which still supports
> resource forks.  As such, it's just one level of misdirection away from
> being more or less the same as a bundle in terms of code and data being
> separate.
>
> As I said, I have no clue on what's going on under the hood, so thanks for
taking time to 'pop the bonnet' and explain what the 'half ball and svetzer
valve' do. ;-)
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Re: Good looking examples of applications built with Revolution

[Luis]

I'm assuming 'seedy' from 'seed', rather than 'seedy'...

Cheers,

Luis.


Thomas McGrath III wrote:
I always thought there weren't enough list romances on this list. 
Finally we see the first seedy tidbits of one.



Tom McGrath III
Lazy River Software
3mcgr...@comcast.net

iTunes Library Suite - libITS
Information and download can be found on this page:
http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html

On Feb 17, 2009, at 1:31 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


Mark Smith wrote:
Run, don't walk to the tactile media site -  you want modern, slick, 
good looking - that's Scott Rossi... um, I mean, well, I'm sure 
Scott's a fine looking fellow, but I meant...oh never mind :)


I've met him. He is. :)

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Re: Getting a browser url on Windows

[Terry Judd]

Thanks Ken - that's really helpful.

Terry...


On 18/02/09 8:54 AM, "Ken Ray"  wrote:

> 
>> I use Applescript to get the url of the active window in Safari and Firefox
>> on a Mac but is there any equivalent (VB?) that would allow me to do the
>> same for IE and Firefox under Windows? Or is that a job for an external?
> 
> Sorry it took so long for me to respond, Terry, and if you already have an
> answer forgive me... but all I have is how to get it from IE with VBScript:
> 
> Set objApps = CreateObject("Shell.Application")
> For Each objApp in objApps.Windows
> If (objApp.Name = "Windows Internet Explorer") or _
>(objApp.Name = "Microsoft Internet Explorer") Then
> If objApp.LocationURL <> "" Then
> WScript.Echo objApp.LocationURL
> End If
> End If
> Next
> 
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Ken Ray
> Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
> Email: k...@sonsothunder.com
> Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
> 
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Re: keeping focus in a field

[SparkOut]

Ken Ray wrote:
> 
>> But if I create a context menu using popup button, the selected text in
>> field looses focus at the moment the popup is called. Is there any
>> simple trick (I already know complex ones :-)) to force the selection to
>> persist, so I could handle it from the context menu ?
> 
> Yes, set the "traversalOn" of the button that is the context menu to
> "false".
> 
> 
> Ken Ray
> Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
> Email: k...@sonsothunder.com
> Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
> 
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> This won't likely apply in the given situation (you want to preserve the
> selection of text in a field, not really the point where you'd have any
> handlers firing) but one caveat of disabling the traversalOn of the button
> is that any handlers in the field (such as closeField) will not be
> triggered until after the focus leaves the button and goes to some other
> focusable object. It might be something to remember in other situations.

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Re: Good looking examples of applications built with Revolution

[Stgoldberg]

I know they can't compete with Scott Rossi's amazing interfaces, but there 
are a number of free educationally useful downloads of MedMaster medical 
applications at http://medmaster.net/freedownloads.html.   All were built with 
Revolution.
Stephen Goldberg, President
MedMaster Inc
www.medmaster.net

In a message dated 2/17/09 1:00:22 PM, 
use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com writes:


> On 17 Feb 2009, at 13:12, Ben Rubinstein wrote:
> 
> > I know that this must be an FAQ, but I've not been able to find 
> > that handy list I'm looking for.
> >
> > It's that time again: considering what development approach to take 
> > on a new project, which requires a cross-platform well connected 
> > desktop app with a slick UI, for a wide consumer audience.
> >
> > The arguments about development efficiency of Rev are well 
> > understood; there's no doubt that Rev can do all the tasks that 
> > will be needed; the question mark over Rev, as compared to the 
> > other two routes being considered, is evidence of good looking, 
> > slick, user interfaces.  (A shocking indictment of my own work, of 
> > course, but then my work has always concentrated on functionality.)
> >
> > So, here's that question again: I'm looking for examples of actual 
> > applications (not just sample stacks, tool stacks etc), built in 
> > Rev, that can be pointed to as demonstrating that people have used 
> > Rev to distribute products with an impressive modern user 
> > interface.  I'm sure that they're out there - I just don't know where.
> >
> > Please send examples, links, or lists - whether your own work or 
> > others - either to me directly or to the list as you prefer.
> 




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Re: Good looking examples of applications built with Revolution

[Thomas McGrath III]

I was just being a little mischievous today..

On Feb 17, 2009, at 4:58 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


Thomas McGrath III wrote:
Ok, sorry this was meant as a funny. I wasn't suggesting  
anything!


I knew that. But careful, lest you be next. :)

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Re: ListMagic Printing

[Jerry Daniels]

We aims to please.

Best,

Jerry Daniels

Daniels & Mara, Inc.
Makers of GLX2
http://www.glx2.com

On Feb 17, 2009, at 4:08 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:


Jerry! Good job!

I think you also nailed the problem with the Visual Application  
Browser losing track of which card was the present one. The error I  
was getting before is no longer occurring. WOOT!


Bob Sneidar
IT Manager
Logos Management
Calvary Chapel CM

On Feb 17, 2009, at 10:43 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote:


Bob, Jim...

GLX2 v2.4b33 is now available. Problem with execution errors within  
locked stacks fixed. General handling of execution errors much  
improved.


Best,

Jerry Daniels

Daniels & Mara, Inc.
Makers of GLX2
http://www.glx2.com

On Feb 15, 2009, at 3:10 PM, Jim Bufalini wrote:


Hi Bob,

Thank you for taking the time be more explanative. As a result, I  
was able

to duplicate the problem. It is due to a combination of factors:

1. Running LMPrint from the message box.
2. Running GLX2.
3. A bug in one ListMagic's print formatting handlers.

The spinning beach ball is coming from GLX2 trying to report an  
error coming
from a locked stack (I'll let Jerry know). Disabling the revGLX2  
Code plugin
results in a Rev error that says it can't tell you exactly what it  
is
because the stack is locked. But there is no hang. Lastly, the  
cause of the

error in the first place being the bug in one of ListMagic's print
formatting handlers.

I'll release a update within the next couple of days that will  
correct this

as well as some other minor issues reported.

Once again, thanks for taking the time to report the problem.  
We'll get

corrected in short order.

Jim Bufalini


-Original Message-
From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-
boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Robert Sneidar
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:15 AM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: ListMagic Printing

Hi Jim. Sorry didn't mean to come off that way.

I used the lmprint command from the message box. I got the page  
setup
and print dialogs ok. I chose Format For and chose a local  
printer on

the network. When I got to the print dialog I clicked the Preview
button. It was at that point I got the Printing dialog and the
spinning beach ball. That went on for over a minute at which  
point I

treid to cancel. It then changed to cancelling printing but never
actually did. I didn't try again. I had to quit Revolution which  
i did
via the keyboard. Every attempt to open a card containing a  
listmagic

object after that threw errors so I had do delete the listmagic
objects and scriptingi can try again and see if I get the same
problem. I will say that I had recently used the VAB in GLX2  
which I
have had problems with so let me reproduce the error and get back  
to

you.

Bob Sneidar
IT Manager
Calvary Chapel CM
Sent from iPhone

On Feb 13, 2009, at 20:52, Jim Bufalini  wrote:


Hi Bob,


Has anyone tried to print from Listmagic yet? I tried to use the
Preview option in the OS X print dialog and it basically locked  
up

with a dialog that said it was printing but never really did.
Cancelling did not cancel. I had to quit Revolution to get out of

the
loop. When I did that, clicking gave me the "don't do that!"  
system
beep, but oddly I could use the keyboard and the Revolution  
Menu so

I

was able to quit gracefully.

I only mention this to warn people so they do not get hung up  
with
this or produce a commercial app and then have their users run  
into

this.


Well, that's a stern warning. ;-)

Can you tell me what happens if from the Action tab of ListMagic  
you

click
on the Actions menu on the upper right and select Print. You  
should

get a
Page Setup screen. Select Portrait and OK. You should get a nicely
formatted
Test list of the sample data.

Did you use the LMPrint command described in the Syntax tab of
ListMagic to
do your print? The LMExport also works nicely from this menu.
Basically you
need to use the handlers provided with ListMagic in your app.

Jim Bufalini


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Re: Good looking examples of applications built with Revolution

[Chipp Walters]

Here are a few from Altuit:
http://www.buttongadget.com/buttongadget2/default.htm

http://www.altuit.com/webs/vuetoolbar/GridModelerCover/default.htm

ThoughtOffice: http://www.thoughtoffice.com/
and
http://www.altuit.com/webs/clients/JollyDesign/ThoughtOfficeScreens_big.jpg

Matrix Emergency Task Management Software for the State of Texas:

http://www.gadgetplugins.com/chippstuff/MatrixScreens.png
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Re: [ANN]: "Word Match" (language tool + dynamic labels on icon images)

[Joe Lewis Wilkins]

Hi Wilhelm,

In the stack Spanish to English, it appears that the lists you're  
using are out of sync by one. Maybe something I did, but I don't think  
so.


Otherwise, great job.

Joe Wilkins

On Feb 17, 2009, at 2:05 PM, Wilhelm Sanke wrote:


The primary purpose of this stack




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Re: ListMagic Printing

[Bob Sneidar]

Jerry! Good job!

I think you also nailed the problem with the Visual Application  
Browser losing track of which card was the present one. The error I  
was getting before is no longer occurring. WOOT!


Bob Sneidar
IT Manager
Logos Management
Calvary Chapel CM

On Feb 17, 2009, at 10:43 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote:


Bob, Jim...

GLX2 v2.4b33 is now available. Problem with execution errors within  
locked stacks fixed. General handling of execution errors much  
improved.


Best,

Jerry Daniels

Daniels & Mara, Inc.
Makers of GLX2
http://www.glx2.com

On Feb 15, 2009, at 3:10 PM, Jim Bufalini wrote:


Hi Bob,

Thank you for taking the time be more explanative. As a result, I  
was able

to duplicate the problem. It is due to a combination of factors:

1. Running LMPrint from the message box.
2. Running GLX2.
3. A bug in one ListMagic's print formatting handlers.

The spinning beach ball is coming from GLX2 trying to report an  
error coming
from a locked stack (I'll let Jerry know). Disabling the revGLX2  
Code plugin

results in a Rev error that says it can't tell you exactly what it is
because the stack is locked. But there is no hang. Lastly, the  
cause of the

error in the first place being the bug in one of ListMagic's print
formatting handlers.

I'll release a update within the next couple of days that will  
correct this

as well as some other minor issues reported.

Once again, thanks for taking the time to report the problem. We'll  
get

corrected in short order.

Jim Bufalini


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boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Robert Sneidar
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:15 AM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: ListMagic Printing

Hi Jim. Sorry didn't mean to come off that way.

I used the lmprint command from the message box. I got the page  
setup
and print dialogs ok. I chose Format For and chose a local printer  
on

the network. When I got to the print dialog I clicked the Preview
button. It was at that point I got the Printing dialog and the
spinning beach ball. That went on for over a minute at which point I
treid to cancel. It then changed to cancelling printing but never
actually did. I didn't try again. I had to quit Revolution which i  
did
via the keyboard. Every attempt to open a card containing a  
listmagic

object after that threw errors so I had do delete the listmagic
objects and scriptingi can try again and see if I get the same
problem. I will say that I had recently used the VAB in GLX2 which I
have had problems with so let me reproduce the error and get back to
you.

Bob Sneidar
IT Manager
Calvary Chapel CM
Sent from iPhone

On Feb 13, 2009, at 20:52, Jim Bufalini  wrote:


Hi Bob,


Has anyone tried to print from Listmagic yet? I tried to use the
Preview option in the OS X print dialog and it basically locked up
with a dialog that said it was printing but never really did.
Cancelling did not cancel. I had to quit Revolution to get out of

the
loop. When I did that, clicking gave me the "don't do that!"  
system
beep, but oddly I could use the keyboard and the Revolution Menu  
so

I

was able to quit gracefully.

I only mention this to warn people so they do not get hung up with
this or produce a commercial app and then have their users run  
into

this.


Well, that's a stern warning. ;-)

Can you tell me what happens if from the Action tab of ListMagic  
you

click
on the Actions menu on the upper right and select Print. You should
get a
Page Setup screen. Select Portrait and OK. You should get a nicely
formatted
Test list of the sample data.

Did you use the LMPrint command described in the Syntax tab of
ListMagic to
do your print? The LMExport also works nicely from this menu.
Basically you
need to use the handlers provided with ListMagic in your app.

Jim Bufalini


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[ANN]: "Word Match" (language tool + dynamic labels on icon images)

[Wilhelm Sanke]

The primary purpose of this stack



is to present a practical example how - as one of several options - the 
results and proposals of the discussion in the recent thread "Dynamic 
labels for buttons with (oddshaped) icon images?" could be applied.
Part of the discussion and the findings are supplied with the stack 
(button "About text on icons") as is an overview (button "help") how to 
work with the stack and how it is structured.


As a "language tool" (for second-language learning) it is a rather 
elementary example. It is an adaptation of one of the various examples 
in an older stack from 2001 that introduced students to the basics of 
educational programming. (see stack "Seminar01" on page "Tools and 
Samples for Development" of my website ).


There are two longer word lists - "Spanish-English" and "English-German" 
- from which you can choose for the exercises.


Because of the demonstration character for "dynamic labels" the stack 
lacks a number of features one would normally expect in a more 
sophisticated educational environment, like


- import of vocabulary from external files
- subsequent selections from fld "Lexicon" until all words have been 
selected at least once, i.e. not applying random selections each time 
from the complete "Lexicon" as in the present version

- numerical feedback as to correct and wrong matches
- collecting wrong matches in a separate temporary "lexicon" as a basis 
for "loops" that can be repeatedly used - thus adapting the program to 
the individual learning progress of the user, etc.-


An example of a more pedagogically structured stack would be "Image and 
Words" () that shows an 
educational environment in stages of increasing complexity.


Best regards,

Wilhelm Sanke

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Re: [OT] Rev + BBEdit

[J. Landman Gay]

Richard Gaskin wrote:
MC also has a 
built-in profiler, which although still bound to other parts it could be 
extracted and would make a nice addition to scripting in any Rev-based 
IDE. 


I did that back in ought-six. It's here:



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Re: Good looking examples of applications built with Revolution

[J. Landman Gay]

Thomas McGrath III wrote:

Ok, sorry this was meant as a funny. I wasn't suggesting anything!


I knew that. But careful, lest you be next. :)

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Re: Getting a browser url on Windows

[Ken Ray]

> I use Applescript to get the url of the active window in Safari and Firefox
> on a Mac but is there any equivalent (VB?) that would allow me to do the
> same for IE and Firefox under Windows? Or is that a job for an external?

Sorry it took so long for me to respond, Terry, and if you already have an
answer forgive me... but all I have is how to get it from IE with VBScript:

Set objApps = CreateObject("Shell.Application")
For Each objApp in objApps.Windows
If (objApp.Name = "Windows Internet Explorer") or _
   (objApp.Name = "Microsoft Internet Explorer") Then
If objApp.LocationURL <> "" Then
WScript.Echo objApp.LocationURL
End If
End If
Next


HTH,

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
Email: k...@sonsothunder.com
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Re: keeping focus in a field

[Ken Ray]

> But if I create a context menu using popup button, the selected text in
> field looses focus at the moment the popup is called. Is there any
> simple trick (I already know complex ones :-)) to force the selection to
> persist, so I could handle it from the context menu ?

Yes, set the "traversalOn" of the button that is the context menu to
"false".


Ken Ray
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Re: [OT] Rev + BBEdit

[Ken Ray]

On 2/17/09 2:58 PM, "Ben Rubinstein"  wrote:

> Ken Ray wrote:
>>> We already have two major editors in the Revolution world, plus the MC
>>> options.   Rather than putting more effort into creating a third, could we
>>> do
>>> better, as Robert suggested, to hook into all the work that's already gone
>>> into the external editors?
>> 
>> We have that with the STS/MLXEditor:
> 
> Does that implement BBEdit/TextMate's roundtrip mechanism?  I had it in my
> mind that it didn't, but I have to admit that I've not looked at it for a long
> time.

If you're talking about the ability for Rev to know that a script has been
edited by an external editor, then the answer is "yes". The plugin for Rev
exports the current script to a file, calls on the external text editor to
edit it, and then watches the file to see when the md5digest of the file
changes. When you save your changes in, say, TextMate, when you return to
Rev, the script is automatically re-inserted into the object whose script
you were editing if the md5digest changed.

If you meant something else, let me know...

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
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Re: [OT] Rev + BBEdit

[Ben Rubinstein]

Ken Ray wrote:

We already have two major editors in the Revolution world, plus the MC
options.   Rather than putting more effort into creating a third, could we do
better, as Robert suggested, to hook into all the work that's already gone
into the external editors?


We have that with the STS/MLXEditor:


Does that implement BBEdit/TextMate's roundtrip mechanism?  I had it in my 
mind that it didn't, but I have to admit that I've not looked at it for a long 
time.


- Ben


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Re: Good looking examples of applications built with Revolution

[Thomas McGrath III]

Ok, sorry this was meant as a funny. I wasn't suggesting anything!


Tom McGrath III
Lazy River Software
3mcgr...@comcast.net

iTunes Library Suite - libITS
Information and download can be found on this page:
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On Feb 17, 2009, at 1:42 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:

I always thought there weren't enough list romances on this list.  
Finally we see the first seedy tidbits of one.



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On Feb 17, 2009, at 1:31 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


Mark Smith wrote:
Run, don't walk to the tactile media site -  you want modern,  
slick, good looking - that's Scott Rossi... um, I mean, well, I'm  
sure Scott's a fine looking fellow, but I meant...oh never mind :)


I've met him. He is. :)

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Re: [OT] Rev + BBEdit

[Richard Gaskin]

Ben Rubinstein wrote:


Richard Gaskin wrote:

My long term goal is to separate debugging from editing


Robert Brenstein wrote:

You may want to fetch TextWrangler, a free sibbling of BBEdit, from
BareBones website. Most of those things are there, so you can just try
them out.


Which somewhat makes Robert's point... Far be it from me to discourage anyone
from doing a lot of work to make a better script editor in Rev, that I can
then take a free (or indeed reasonably priced!) ride on.  But I wonder whether
the effort might instead better go into finding a better solution to
integration with existing external editors.  That way, maybe we could all take
a free (or reasonably priced) ride on the work done in BBEdit, TextMate,
Eclipse and the like.


An attractive idea, but still brings us back to the central problem of 
script editing in Rev:  to the best of my knowledge every script editor 
available, even MC's, is bound up in a debugger.  Lose the editor, and 
you lose debugging.


And while editing can be done anywhere (MC's had the ability to use an 
external editor built in since v1.6 when I started using it, although 
IIRC it's only for Linux), debugging can only be done inside Rev.


Sooner or later, someone needs to bite the bullet and build a debugger 
that's independent from the editor.


Ken maintains MC's Variable Watcher, which is as close to being 
independent of any specific IDE as I've seen yet.  MC also has a 
built-in profiler, which although still bound to other parts it could be 
extracted and would make a nice addition to scripting in any Rev-based 
IDE.  I have some complexity analysis tools I could toss into the mix as 
well.


But nice-to-haves aside, the core work of making a separate debugger is 
a big tak, and since I spend more time editing than debugging I'm 
putting my time into the former right now.  And with the amount of 
JavaScript/HTML stuff I'm doing these days, I'll have my hands full 
making a dual-use editing environment (not to mention using it ).


Anyone feel like taking up the challenge of making a dedicated debugger?

--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World
 Revolution training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com
 Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com
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Re: [OT] Rev + BBEdit

[Ken Ray]

> We already have two major editors in the Revolution world, plus the MC
> options.   Rather than putting more effort into creating a third, could we do
> better, as Robert suggested, to hook into all the work that's already gone
> into the external editors?

We have that with the STS/MLXEditor:

http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/stsMLXEditor.htm

... but it would be great if it was something built into Rev as an option
instead of a plugin.

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
Email: k...@sonsothunder.com
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/


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Re: AW: Can a modal stack has a close box?

[Ken Ray]

> hmmm, perhaps I took the wrong approach. What I wanted to do is a welcome
> screen with some basic infos on first start. The User should read the infos
> first, before going on, that¹s why I wanted modal. And this welcome window
> just has 1 only button "close". The close box in the title bar actually
> would be a duplicate, but an offer to the users, who are used to close
> windows with the close box...

Tiemo, in that case you can use a modeless dialog, which will give you the
closebox. True it's not truly modal, but then again it doesn't have to be -
they can close it when they want to and it shouldn't interfere with the rest
of your app, even if they submarine it by clicking on another window. This
is like the About boxes in Mac apps...

Just my 2 cents,

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
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RE: Good looking examples of applications built with Revolution

[Hugh Senior]

Hi Ben

As has been said, 'impressive' may be in the eye of the holder. The
Scripter's Scrapbook (www.ssBk.co.uk) was carefully designed to honour (or
at least not fly in the face of) both Win and Mac HIG guidelines (insofar as
is possible). I'm not sure what 'modern' means... Vista? Aqua? Eye candy?
Anyway, Scripter's Scrapbook an example of a real product that delivers
cross-platform.

/H

On Feb 17, 2009, at 6:12 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote:

> I know that this must be an FAQ, but I've not been able to find that
> handy list I'm looking for.
>
> It's that time again: considering what development approach to take
> on a new project, which requires a cross-platform well connected
> desktop app with a slick UI, for a wide consumer audience.
>
> The arguments about development efficiency of Rev are well
> understood; there's no doubt that Rev can do all the tasks that will
> be needed; the question mark over Rev, as compared to the other two
> routes being considered, is evidence of good looking, slick, user
> interfaces.  (A shocking indictment of my own work, of course, but
> then my work has always concentrated on functionality.)
>
> So, here's that question again: I'm looking for examples of actual
> applications (not just sample stacks, tool stacks etc), built in
> Rev, that can be pointed to as demonstrating that people have used
> Rev to distribute products with an impressive modern user
> interface.  I'm sure that they're out there - I just don't know where.
>
> Please send examples, links, or lists - whether your own work or
> others - either to me directly or to the list as you prefer.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> - Ben
>

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AW: Can a modal stack has a close box?

[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Good idea Stephen and thanks Jacqueline,
I'll give them both :)
Tiemo

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-
> boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von J. Landman Gay
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. Februar 2009 19:30
> An: How to use Revolution
> Betreff: Re: Can a modal stack has a close box?
> 
> stephen barncard wrote:
> > Actually most users would click on the window to dismiss, if it's just a
> > message before going on...Like the behavior of most 'about' screens.
> 
> That's what I thought too until recently. I thought the behavior was so
> universal that I didn't think twice about putting a "close this stack"
> handler into the card script of my (no-titlebar) About box. A Windows
> customer got stuck, believed the whole app had frozen, couldn't get out,
> force-quit the app, and reported a "critical" bug.
> 
> So we added an "OK" button at the bottom. Sigh.
> 
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Re: Good looking examples of applications built with Revolution

[Ken Ray]

> So, here's that question again: I'm looking for examples of actual
> applications (not just sample stacks, tool stacks etc), built in Rev, that can
> be pointed to as demonstrating that people have used Rev to distribute
> products with an impressive modern user interface.  I'm sure that they're out
> there - I just don't know where.

Here's one of my faves - it's Aperture Assistant, written by Ian Wood.
Here's the screenshots page:

   http://aperture-assistant.com/docs/screengrabs

It's more "Yahoo Pipes"-style, but it's pretty slick, IMHO. Are you looking
for *business* apps? Or some other kind of genre? Or does it matter?

Ken Ray
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Re: ListMagic Printing

[Jerry Daniels]

Bob, Jim...

GLX2 v2.4b33 is now available. Problem with execution errors within  
locked stacks fixed. General handling of execution errors much improved.


Best,

Jerry Daniels

Daniels & Mara, Inc.
Makers of GLX2
http://www.glx2.com

On Feb 15, 2009, at 3:10 PM, Jim Bufalini wrote:


Hi Bob,

Thank you for taking the time be more explanative. As a result, I  
was able

to duplicate the problem. It is due to a combination of factors:

1. Running LMPrint from the message box.
2. Running GLX2.
3. A bug in one ListMagic's print formatting handlers.

The spinning beach ball is coming from GLX2 trying to report an  
error coming
from a locked stack (I'll let Jerry know). Disabling the revGLX2  
Code plugin

results in a Rev error that says it can't tell you exactly what it is
because the stack is locked. But there is no hang. Lastly, the cause  
of the

error in the first place being the bug in one of ListMagic's print
formatting handlers.

I'll release a update within the next couple of days that will  
correct this

as well as some other minor issues reported.

Once again, thanks for taking the time to report the problem. We'll  
get

corrected in short order.

Jim Bufalini


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From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-
boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Robert Sneidar
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:15 AM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: ListMagic Printing

Hi Jim. Sorry didn't mean to come off that way.

I used the lmprint command from the message box. I got the page setup
and print dialogs ok. I chose Format For and chose a local printer on
the network. When I got to the print dialog I clicked the Preview
button. It was at that point I got the Printing dialog and the
spinning beach ball. That went on for over a minute at which point I
treid to cancel. It then changed to cancelling printing but never
actually did. I didn't try again. I had to quit Revolution which i  
did

via the keyboard. Every attempt to open a card containing a listmagic
object after that threw errors so I had do delete the listmagic
objects and scriptingi can try again and see if I get the same
problem. I will say that I had recently used the VAB in GLX2 which I
have had problems with so let me reproduce the error and get back to
you.

Bob Sneidar
IT Manager
Calvary Chapel CM
Sent from iPhone

On Feb 13, 2009, at 20:52, Jim Bufalini  wrote:


Hi Bob,


Has anyone tried to print from Listmagic yet? I tried to use the
Preview option in the OS X print dialog and it basically locked up
with a dialog that said it was printing but never really did.
Cancelling did not cancel. I had to quit Revolution to get out of

the

loop. When I did that, clicking gave me the "don't do that!" system
beep, but oddly I could use the keyboard and the Revolution Menu so

I

was able to quit gracefully.

I only mention this to warn people so they do not get hung up with
this or produce a commercial app and then have their users run into
this.


Well, that's a stern warning. ;-)

Can you tell me what happens if from the Action tab of ListMagic you
click
on the Actions menu on the upper right and select Print. You should
get a
Page Setup screen. Select Portrait and OK. You should get a nicely
formatted
Test list of the sample data.

Did you use the LMPrint command described in the Syntax tab of
ListMagic to
do your print? The LMExport also works nicely from this menu.
Basically you
need to use the handlers provided with ListMagic in your app.

Jim Bufalini


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Re: Good looking examples of applications built with Revolution

[Thomas McGrath III]

I always thought there weren't enough list romances on this list.  
Finally we see the first seedy tidbits of one.



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On Feb 17, 2009, at 1:31 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


Mark Smith wrote:
Run, don't walk to the tactile media site -  you want modern,  
slick, good looking - that's Scott Rossi... um, I mean, well, I'm  
sure Scott's a fine looking fellow, but I meant...oh never mind :)


I've met him. He is. :)

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Re: Good looking examples of applications built with Revolution

[J. Landman Gay]

Mark Smith wrote:
Run, don't walk to the tactile media site -  you want modern, slick, 
good looking - that's Scott Rossi... um, I mean, well, I'm sure Scott's 
a fine looking fellow, but I meant...oh never mind :)


I've met him. He is. :)

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Re: Can a modal stack has a close box?

[J. Landman Gay]

stephen barncard wrote:

Actually most users would click on the window to dismiss, if it's just a
message before going on...Like the behavior of most 'about' screens.


That's what I thought too until recently. I thought the behavior was so 
universal that I didn't think twice about putting a "close this stack" 
handler into the card script of my (no-titlebar) About box. A Windows 
customer got stuck, believed the whole app had frozen, couldn't get out, 
force-quit the app, and reported a "critical" bug.


So we added an "OK" button at the bottom. Sigh.

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Re: Creating a callback mechanism for externals.

[Mark Wieder]

Andre-

As you've noted, EvalExpr() isn't really designed to send messages. My
take is that it's less like a "do" command and more like the engine
running a line of code, evaluating the expressions along the way to
return a result. So here are two ideas off the top of my head (both
untested):

1. change the syntax of your EvalExpr parameter to:
return "send" && quote & outraMsg & quote && "to button id 1010 of
card id 1002 of stack" && quote &
"/home/soapdog/Desktop/ExternalsEnvironmentV3/httpserver/test.rev" &
quote

2. if the recipient of the message (button id 1010 etc) is going to be
hardcoded into the external, why not just use SendCardMessage, and in
the stack script (or some backscript) have a handler for outraMsg that
does the send to the button?

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Re: Good looking examples of applications built with Revolution

[Bob Sneidar]

Wowmatrix was produced with Runtime Revolution. It is a handy app that  
scans the World Of Warcraft addons folder, then connects to each addon  
site (there are many) and checks to see if your addons are up to date.  
It also can search for new addons (there are many) and install them  
for you. It is a really slick example of how a Rev App can harness the  
power of the web to make what would normally be a tedious task into an  
easy few click process. It works with PC's and Macs. (of course!)


Bob Sneidar
IT Manager
Logos Management
Calvary Chapel CM

On Feb 17, 2009, at 5:12 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote:

I know that this must be an FAQ, but I've not been able to find that  
handy list I'm looking for.


It's that time again: considering what development approach to take  
on a new project, which requires a cross-platform well connected  
desktop app with a slick UI, for a wide consumer audience.


The arguments about development efficiency of Rev are well  
understood; there's no doubt that Rev can do all the tasks that will  
be needed; the question mark over Rev, as compared to the other two  
routes being considered, is evidence of good looking, slick, user  
interfaces.  (A shocking indictment of my own work, of course, but  
then my work has always concentrated on functionality.)


So, here's that question again: I'm looking for examples of actual  
applications (not just sample stacks, tool stacks etc), built in  
Rev, that can be pointed to as demonstrating that people have used  
Rev to distribute products with an impressive modern user  
interface.  I'm sure that they're out there - I just don't know where.


Please send examples, links, or lists - whether your own work or  
others - either to me directly or to the list as you prefer.


Many thanks,

- Ben

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Re: Good looking examples of applications built with Revolution

[Mark Smith]

Run, don't walk to the tactile media site -  you want modern, slick,  
good looking - that's Scott Rossi... um, I mean, well, I'm sure  
Scott's a fine looking fellow, but I meant...oh never mind :)


Best,

Mark

On 17 Feb 2009, at 13:12, Ben Rubinstein wrote:

I know that this must be an FAQ, but I've not been able to find  
that handy list I'm looking for.


It's that time again: considering what development approach to take  
on a new project, which requires a cross-platform well connected  
desktop app with a slick UI, for a wide consumer audience.


The arguments about development efficiency of Rev are well  
understood; there's no doubt that Rev can do all the tasks that  
will be needed; the question mark over Rev, as compared to the  
other two routes being considered, is evidence of good looking,  
slick, user interfaces.  (A shocking indictment of my own work, of  
course, but then my work has always concentrated on functionality.)


So, here's that question again: I'm looking for examples of actual  
applications (not just sample stacks, tool stacks etc), built in  
Rev, that can be pointed to as demonstrating that people have used  
Rev to distribute products with an impressive modern user  
interface.  I'm sure that they're out there - I just don't know where.


Please send examples, links, or lists - whether your own work or  
others - either to me directly or to the list as you prefer.


Many thanks,

- Ben

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Re: Good looking examples of applications built with Revolution

[Damien Girard]

Hi Ben,

At Dam-pro, we are working on Windows; in our laboratories, our 
applications in development looks really modern with a Windows Vista/7 UI.

(The new ParentScript feature of Rev 3.5 is lovely).

Actually released, designed for Windows XP, there is NativeSpeak 
Translate, not the best modern user interface but it is working well.


NativeSpeak Translate:
http://dam-pro.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3&Itemid=48

There is also Screenstep that is a really good application (in look and 
in feature): (built with Rev)

http://www.screensteps.com/

Regards,

Damien Girard
Dam-pro, France

Ben Rubinstein a écrit :


I know that this must be an FAQ, but I've not been able to find that 
handy list I'm looking for.


It's that time again: considering what development approach to take on 
a new project, which requires a cross-platform well connected desktop 
app with a slick UI, for a wide consumer audience.


The arguments about development efficiency of Rev are well understood; 
there's no doubt that Rev can do all the tasks that will be needed; 
the question mark over Rev, as compared to the other two routes being 
considered, is evidence of good looking, slick, user interfaces.  (A 
shocking indictment of my own work, of course, but then my work has 
always concentrated on functionality.)


So, here's that question again: I'm looking for examples of actual 
applications (not just sample stacks, tool stacks etc), built in Rev, 
that can be pointed to as demonstrating that people have used Rev to 
distribute products with an impressive modern user interface.  I'm 
sure that they're out there - I just don't know where.


Please send examples, links, or lists - whether your own work or 
others - either to me directly or to the list as you prefer.


Many thanks,

- Ben

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Creating a callback mechanism for externals.

[Andre Garzia]

Hello Friends,

Here I come with a topic that is hot here on my mind. I know we all
love transcript, but for building externals, we need to do it in
C/C++, so I apologize for the the amount of dirty C code that I'll
post on this message. Right now with the ExternalEnvironmentV3 and
libexternal, we have a limited number of functions available and no
clear path to create callback mechanisms from our externals. Callbacks
are useful things, specially when your dealing with network related
things, for example, you can register a callback to be triggered when
the server responds, this way, instead of looping and checking every
now and then if the server answered, we can trust that a callback
message will be triggered when the server answers. Code becomes more
clear and easier to maintain.

Since in the current incarnation of our external development SDK we
don't have a way to easily create such tool, I decided to roll one on
my own and so far I am about to achieve success. Since there are other
external writers here with much more knowledge than I, I wanted to
share what I am doing and get some feedback if I am being stupid.

First, I created a nice structure for holding a callback reference:

 struct callback {
char *target;
char *message;
};

So this structure holds a message name and a target for the message.
This should be enough to assemble and trigger a message. The message
member is usually passed as a parameter to some external command or
function call, the target member is obtained with the following piece
of code:

callback->message =  strdup(p_arguments[1]);
callback->target = EvalExpr("the long id of me", &t_success);
if (t_success == EXTERNAL_FAILURE)
{
*r_result = strdup("could not get the long id of me.");
*r_err = True;
*r_pass = False;
return;
}

And this actually work. The message part, I am doing with strdup since
I think that without it I'll reach memory problems when the function
finishes and p_argument[] is freed. So, this stores a callback
reference and that is already working. Now on my code there's a
function that is called upon certain event and that should trigger the
callback, the code is as follow:

strcpy (expr,"send \"");
strcat (expr,callback->message);
strcat (expr,"\" to ");
strcat (expr,callback->target);


printf("Expr: %s\n", expr);

result = EvalExpr(expr, &t_success);
if (t_success == EXTERNAL_FAILURE)
{
printf("Error with Expr: %s\n", expr);
return;
}

The Expr is assembled fine, like:

send "outraMsg" to button id 1010 of card id 1002 of stack
"/home/soapdog/Desktop/ExternalsEnvironmentV3/httpserver/test.rev"

When executed in the messagebox, that expression works quite fine but
when executed from EvalExpr() it doesn't work. I don't know if
EvalExpr() is allowed to send messages or something like that. Any
clue out there?

Cheers
andre


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Re: Can a modal stack has a close box?

[stephen barncard]

Actually most users would click on the window to dismiss, if it's just a
message before going on...Like the behavior of most 'about' screens.

Stephen Barncard
-
San Francisco


2009/2/17 Tiemo Hollmann TB 

> Hi Jan,
> hmmm, perhaps I took the wrong approach. What I wanted to do is a welcome
> screen with some basic infos on first start. The User should read the infos
> first, before going on, that's why I wanted modal. And this welcome window
> just has 1 only button "close". The close box in the title bar actually
> would be a duplicate, but an offer to the users, who are used to close
> windows with the close box...
> Thanks
> Tiemo
>
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-
> > boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Jan Schenkel
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. Februar 2009 12:14
> > An: How to use Revolution
> > Betreff: Re: Can a modal stack has a close box?
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 2/17/09, Tiemo Hollmann TB  wrote:
> >
> > > From: Tiemo Hollmann TB 
> > > Subject: Can a modal stack has a close box?
> > > To: "'How to use Revolution'" 
> > > Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 2:52 AM
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Is there any option to give a modal stack a close box in
> > > the title bar? Or
> > > is it the only choice to close a modal stack by my own
> > > close button?
> > >
> > > As far as I experience it, all stack controls are ignored
> > > at a modal stack.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Tiemo
> > >
> >
> > Hi Tiemo,
> >
> > As it happens, I'm facing the opposite problem in Java: there's always a
> > close box and you can't seem to get rid of it. UI guideline-wise the main
> > reason why there's no Close box is simple: what is the effect of closing
> > the dialog box without clicking on any of the presented options?
> >
> > If the dialog only has a single button (OK, Cancel,...), it's clear: the
> > close box is simply the same as the only button. You could conceivably
> > have a standard that the Close box is the equivalent of Cancel, but what
> > does that say about a dialog box with two buttons "Choice 1" and "Choice
> > 2" without a "Cancel" button?
> >
> > Best to avoid user confusion altogether, and force them to click one of
> > the options you provided as buttons.
> >
> > Just my 2 cents,
> >
> > Jan Schenkel.
> >
> > Quartam Reports & PDF Library for Revolution
> > 
> >
> > =
> > "As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time."
> > (La Rochefoucauld)
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Music duration

[Kurt Kaufman]

René,
I'll reply to you either later today or tomorrow  (I have a long music 
rehearsal this evening).  I can also cc to the list if anyone else expresses an 
interest in the subject (anyone?).

-Kurt


--- On Tue, 2/17/09, René Micout <[]> wrote:

> From: René Micout []
> Bonjour Kurt,
> I hardly work this week-end (see my exercices in PDF file
> joined > off-list...).
> I have many questions > ?
> The most important are lines 22, 30, 38 46 about note data,
> by example line 22 :
> 903C648400803C
> I think 03C is the pitch (!?) and 64844008 is the duration
> (!?)
> Where is the velocity ?
> Thank you very much for these lessons :-)
> Theses functionalities are very interesting for making MIDI
> files but my problem is especially making MIDI messages (!?)
> by sending parameters from Revolution to QT synthesizer (is
> it correct ?)
> Bons souvenirs de Paris
> René

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Re: Good looking examples of applications built with Revolution

[Paul Looney]

Ben,
"Good looking" is in the eyes of the beholder. But you might go to  
our website: Ahsomme.com.
There you can download a 330 page PDF operating manual that has  
pictures of the 22 databases, 50 Editors and List Programs, and some  
of the 100+ unique report templates (as well as pictures of the  
ReportMaker, the ListMaker and the system Navigator) in our Ahsomme  
Business System.
If nothing else, it shows how to maintain consistency across a  
complex business system.

Paul Looney

On Feb 17, 2009, at 5:12 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote:

 I'm looking for examples of actual applications (not just sample  
stacks, tool stacks etc), built in Rev, that can be pointed to as  
demonstrating that people have used Rev to distribute products with  
an impressive modern user interface.  I'm sure that they're out  
there - I just don't know where.


Please send examples, links, or lists - whether your own work or  
others - either to me directly or to the list as you prefer.


Many thanks,

- Ben


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Re: [OT] Rev + BBEdit

[Robert Brenstein]

On 17.02.09 at 12:18 + Ben Rubinstein apparently wrote:
Perhaps I've missed something, but I think that both these excellent 
facilities are indeed available in 3.0.  If you click on the "+" 
button at the bottom right of the script editor "Find and replace", 
it supports grep.  And the  "Find All" option shows in the "Search 
Results" tab at the bottom of the script editor all lines with 
matching strings at once.  Even better, you can do this across all 
open (in the script editor) scripts.


Hey, Ben, you are right. Amazing! These things are in 3.0! Somehow, I 
only used what they call the quick find. I need to spend more time in 
that editor.


I think the access to those options would be more visible if "find 
options" was a button like others in that dialog instead of being a 
text with a plus only being the button. And it would be nice that 
next to quick find in the main editor window was a button to bring 
the advanced dialog. Suggested in bug 7725.


Robert
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Re: McAfee virus detection deletes valid file

[J. Landman Gay]

Ken Ray wrote:


However there is a light at the end of the tunnel if all else fails... if
the VBA module can be compiled into an actual DLL with Visual Basic (or the
equivalent), then you can run a script that *calls* on the DLL to do it's
functionality and Norton and McAfee won't block it since there's no way for
them to know what a generic DLL call can do, so they just let it go.

See the tip here for an example of what I mean and how to call it:
  http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/ext002.htm

If you need any help with this, Jacque, contact me offlist...


Thank you SO much Ken. I'll pass this on, and we may be talking to you. 
The glitch is (always a glitch) that my Rev app doesn't call the module, 
it doesn't even use it. The module is an add-in for Office, and the 
module in turn calls my Rev app.


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[OT] NVIDIA Personal Supercomputer

[viktoras d.]

just have a look at this:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/personal_supercomputing.html

They say it is accessible e.g. programmable with C. I feel Revolution 
apps can also jump in into this "train" easily. Well, rev has no real 
threading at the moment, but one could get running up to 960 instances 
of Revolution applications plus some work with sockets, shared 
databases, whatever to get any task accomplished on this monster :-)


Viktoras
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keeping focus in a field

[viktoras d.]

there is a field and a menu button on my stack. If I write some text in 
the field and select portion of it, then go to menu and choose whatever 
I wish from the pull down list, it keeps focus on the selection of text 
in the field.


But if I create a context menu using popup button, the selected text in 
field looses focus at the moment the popup is called. Is there any 
simple trick (I already know complex ones :-)) to force the selection to 
persist, so I could handle it from the context menu ?


Viktoras
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Re: Good looking examples of applications built with Revolution

[Chris Sheffield]

Hi Ben,

Read Naturally was fully developed in Revolution  
(www.readnaturally.com). I work for Read Naturally (that's the name of  
the company as well as the name of our flagship product) as the  
primary developer. I don't know that I would go so far as to say it  
has "an impressive modern user interface", however, as it is  
definitely due for a revamping in that area. But it is one example of  
a very successful commercial product. Visit this page http://www.readnaturally.com/products/se2evalrequest.htm 
 to download a fully functional evaluation.


Give me a holler if you have more questions.

Chris


On Feb 17, 2009, at 6:12 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote:

I know that this must be an FAQ, but I've not been able to find that  
handy list I'm looking for.


It's that time again: considering what development approach to take  
on a new project, which requires a cross-platform well connected  
desktop app with a slick UI, for a wide consumer audience.


The arguments about development efficiency of Rev are well  
understood; there's no doubt that Rev can do all the tasks that will  
be needed; the question mark over Rev, as compared to the other two  
routes being considered, is evidence of good looking, slick, user  
interfaces.  (A shocking indictment of my own work, of course, but  
then my work has always concentrated on functionality.)


So, here's that question again: I'm looking for examples of actual  
applications (not just sample stacks, tool stacks etc), built in  
Rev, that can be pointed to as demonstrating that people have used  
Rev to distribute products with an impressive modern user  
interface.  I'm sure that they're out there - I just don't know where.


Please send examples, links, or lists - whether your own work or  
others - either to me directly or to the list as you prefer.


Many thanks,

- Ben

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www.readnaturally.com

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My link about the client/server recommendations with Valentina

[weslyn whitehead]

Thanks everyone for responding to my question about the client/server
recommendations. I think i may have to go with Valentina Office. But i
was also wondering if anyone had any experience with using a rev app
as a full time application server. Whats the uptime like is it prone
to crashes, memory hogging that type of stuff. I'm enjoying using rev
more and more and as i have some major projects i am considering rev
for just want some more opinions.

Thanks,
Wes
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AW: how to change the font of stacks title bar?

[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Oh, didn't knew that.
So again a dead end for a workaround on this side.
Thank you Jan

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-
> boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Jan Schenkel
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. Februar 2009 15:30
> An: How to use Revolution
> Betreff: Re: how to change the font of stacks title bar?
> 
> 
> --- On Tue, 2/17/09, Tiemo Hollmann TB  wrote:
> 
> > From: Tiemo Hollmann TB 
> > Subject: how to change the font of stacks title bar?
> > To: "'How to use Revolution'" 
> > Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 5:53 AM
> > Hello,
> >
> > Still trying to workaround the title corrupt bug.
> >
> > the textfont in the properties of my stack is empty. Which
> > font is taken? Is
> > Tahoma Revs standard, if no font is specified?
> >
> > When changing the textfont of the stack the font of the
> > titlebar seems to
> > stay, as it was - probably Tahoma. Can you change the font
> > of the titlebar?
> >
> > set the textfont of the title of this stack to
> > "Tahoma" doesn't work, any
> > other solution?
> >
> > Thanks for any hint
> >
> > Tiemo
> >
> 
> Hi Tiemo,
> 
> The title bar of native windows is drawn by the underlying operating
> system - so unless you build your own title bar (setting the decorations
> of the stack to empty and adding your own controls) you cannot influence
> the font directly from Revolution.
> 
> Jan Schenkel.
> 
> Quartam Reports & PDF Library for Revolution
> 
> 
> =
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> (La Rochefoucauld)
> 
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> 
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Re: how to change the font of stacks title bar?

[Jan Schenkel]

--- On Tue, 2/17/09, Tiemo Hollmann TB  wrote:

> From: Tiemo Hollmann TB 
> Subject: how to change the font of stacks title bar?
> To: "'How to use Revolution'" 
> Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 5:53 AM
> Hello,
> 
> Still trying to workaround the title corrupt bug.
> 
> the textfont in the properties of my stack is empty. Which
> font is taken? Is
> Tahoma Revs standard, if no font is specified?
> 
> When changing the textfont of the stack the font of the
> titlebar seems to
> stay, as it was - probably Tahoma. Can you change the font
> of the titlebar?
> 
> set the textfont of the title of this stack to
> "Tahoma" doesn't work, any
> other solution?
> 
> Thanks for any hint
> 
> Tiemo
> 

Hi Tiemo,

The title bar of native windows is drawn by the underlying operating system - 
so unless you build your own title bar (setting the decorations of the stack to 
empty and adding your own controls) you cannot influence the font directly from 
Revolution.

Jan Schenkel.

Quartam Reports & PDF Library for Revolution


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how to change the font of stacks title bar?

[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Hello,

Still trying to workaround the title corrupt bug.

the textfont in the properties of my stack is empty. Which font is taken? Is
Tahoma Revs standard, if no font is specified?

When changing the textfont of the stack the font of the titlebar seems to
stay, as it was - probably Tahoma. Can you change the font of the titlebar?

set the textfont of the title of this stack to "Tahoma" doesn't work, any
other solution?

Thanks for any hint

Tiemo

 

 

 

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Good looking examples of applications built with Revolution

[Ben Rubinstein]

I know that this must be an FAQ, but I've not been able to find that handy 
list I'm looking for.


It's that time again: considering what development approach to take on a new 
project, which requires a cross-platform well connected desktop app with a 
slick UI, for a wide consumer audience.


The arguments about development efficiency of Rev are well understood; there's 
no doubt that Rev can do all the tasks that will be needed; the question mark 
over Rev, as compared to the other two routes being considered, is evidence of 
good looking, slick, user interfaces.  (A shocking indictment of my own work, 
of course, but then my work has always concentrated on functionality.)


So, here's that question again: I'm looking for examples of actual 
applications (not just sample stacks, tool stacks etc), built in Rev, that can 
be pointed to as demonstrating that people have used Rev to distribute 
products with an impressive modern user interface.  I'm sure that they're out 
there - I just don't know where.


Please send examples, links, or lists - whether your own work or others - 
either to me directly or to the list as you prefer.


Many thanks,

- Ben

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Re: Music duration

[René Micout]

Bonjour Kurt,
I hardly work this week-end (see my exercices in PDF file joined >  
off-list...).

I have many questions > ?
The most important are lines 22, 30, 38 46 about note data, by  
example line 22 :

903C648400803C
I think 03C is the pitch (!?) and 64844008 is the duration (!?)
Where is the velocity ?
Thank you very much for these lessons :-)
Theses functionalities are very interesting for making MIDI files but  
my problem is especially making MIDI messages (!?)
by sending parameters from Revolution to QT synthesizer (is it  
correct ?)

Bons souvenirs de Paris
René


Le 12 févr. 09 à 01:02, Kurt Kaufman a écrit :


"...I know your work and I appreciate it, but but...
It is a little bit complex for me :-(
I dont understand binaryEncode(etc...)
and also the bridge between Revolution (code) and Midi..."

René,

I know it looks complicated.  I think it would take me a while to  
figure it out again, even though I commented the scripts fairly  
heavily!
But once you understand what makes up a MIDI file, which parts are  
constant (always the same in every MIDI file of that type), and  
which parts are variable (different in each music track), you see  
that it is not that complex.  If you look at the MIDI format  
document, you'll see the various parts described in the order in  
which they appear.


At least MIDI files are generally not very big, so if you want to  
open them up using a Hex editor, you're not scanning a tremendous  
amount of data.  To that end I would use MIDI Builder to create a  
MIDI file with a single note, and then take a look using HexEdit:


http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=9366
(there's a French version, too)

Now compare what's in the MIDI format document with what you see  
in the HexEdit.


Rev's binaryEncode function is called after all of the various  
parts of the data have been set up, as most of the MIDI data  
cannot be represented by ascii (it's not printable, for the most  
part).  But the binaryEncode function is automatic;  you just have  
to give the function its data and the proper parameters, and Rev  
does the rest. Rev makes it easy: You can simply add the  
successive bytes of encoded data "after" what's already there.   
The file can be created in a fraction of a second and played  
almost immediately.  Rev's QT player object handles most of the  
work, you just have to send it data that it understands.


Hope this helps,
Kurt

further info:
http://crystal.apana.org.au/ghansper/midi_introduction/ 
midi_file_format.html

http://www.harmony-central.com/MIDI/Doc/doc.html

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Re: [OT] Rev + BBEdit

[Ben Rubinstein]

Robert Brenstein wrote:

 Regex is indeed a built-in option for global search and that search
finds all objects that contain the search string. However, I was 
referring to searching within a single script, a script I am editing. 
Right now, one can search in the editor by hoping from instance to 
instance of the string. What I had in mind was seeing all lines with a 
given string at once. There is not grep option for the search or replace 
within the editor, either. At least not that I see that in 3.0.


Perhaps I've missed something, but I think that both these excellent 
facilities are indeed available in 3.0.  If you click on the "+" button at the 
bottom right of the script editor "Find and replace", it supports grep.  And 
the  "Find All" option shows in the "Search Results" tab at the bottom of the 
script editor all lines with matching strings at once.  Even better, you can 
do this across all open (in the script editor) scripts.


I've requested that this should extend to all scripts that aren't open, 
because the presentation - when you're searching code - is so much more useful 
than the generic "Find and Replace".  That is, that the options should be:

  - Current Tab
  - All Tabs
  - Current Card
  - Current Stack
  - Current Stack File
  - (All open stack files)

See .

So I think it could be even better - but I think it is there.  Or perhaps I've 
misunderstood your point.


- Ben

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Re: [OT] Rev + BBEdit

[Ben Rubinstein]

Richard Gaskin wrote:
Thanks for the ideas, folks.  I've long believed it should be possible 
to make a really good editor for Transcript, and since Ken and I have 
been using ROSE for some time maybe I'll be able to add more of these at 
it continues to evolve.

...


My long term goal is to separate debugging from editing


Robert Brenstein wrote:

You may want to fetch TextWrangler, a free sibbling of BBEdit, from
BareBones website. Most of those things are there, so you can just try
them out.


Which somewhat makes Robert's point... Far be it from me to discourage anyone
from doing a lot of work to make a better script editor in Rev, that I can
then take a free (or indeed reasonably priced!) ride on.  But I wonder whether
the effort might instead better go into finding a better solution to
integration with existing external editors.  That way, maybe we could all take
a free (or reasonably priced) ride on the work done in BBEdit, TextMate,
Eclipse and the like.

BBEdit and Eclipse both have excellent diff presentation; like others, I more
frequently than I'd like to admit have recourse to copying scripts out to
BBEdit to compare and resolve differences.  BBEdit and TextMate (and Eclipse?)
do code folding (though not I think for Revolution - I don't know whether this
is something that can be dealt with in the language module).  BBEdit and
TextMate (and Eclipse?) have a whole 'roundtrip' mechanism, designed to
support use as an external editor for another IDE.

We already have two major editors in the Revolution world, plus the MC
options.   Rather than putting more effort into creating a third, could we do
better, as Robert suggested, to hook into all the work that's already gone
into the external editors?

Or, is this a Mac-centric view? I don't know anything about the state of
programming editors on Windows or Linux (though presumably Eclipse might be an
option in all cases).

- Ben, not actually offering to do any of this work himself...






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Re: way to inform rev apps to get something from web server

[Jim Sims]

Thanks again for the replies & suggestions   :-)

Tourism here and around the world has disappeared so I'm trying to  
expand my computer work to supply my tomatoes and wine. Thanks for the  
help.   :-)


The main concern from the person I talked to was cost of bandwidth, my  
question to this list centered on that but several other issues have  
been expressed here that I will also need to consider.


The internet gambling business is used to very heavy traffic and do  
use load balancers plus they locate machines around the world just in  
case some government decides they want to pull the plug on gambling by  
passing laws or some undersea cable gets cut (happened twice recently  
here in Malta). They are huge businesses with lots of bean counters  
watching where the pennies go.



Andre Garzia:
"As for saving bandwidth, why not use GZip encoding for the transfers,
it saves some bytes."

sims:  Most excellent Andre.  Nice little BBEdit test file went from  
8KB to 4KB - cut things in half  :-) Now I have to see if my Rev CGI  
can do that. My Rev CGI interface makes the alert file when a  
promotion is made/setup. I bet the Rev CGI can do the compress trick  
for me.


Alex Tweedly:
"Extending the polling cycle can help; in fact, you could consider  
making it dynamic, for instance by allowing the server to put into  
that one-line file not just the name of the latest update, but also  
the polling cycle to be used. Then you can (some time in the future,  
if needed) either just increase it, or allow the server to dynamically  
update it. (Marketing - "you can tune the update frequency based on  
number of users to minimize the delay during quiet times while  
avoiding getting overloaded during busy times")."


sims:  Quite ingenious suggestion Alex, very cool. Thanks!


Brian Yennie:
"If you are serving media files from the same server, I would first  
look at that as the bottleneck. Those could eat up your server  
resources much faster than the polling. One simple solution would be  
moving your media files to a service such as Amazon S3, and then have  
the "gateway" server just service polling requests."


sims:  Quite right, thanks Brian. Amazon S3 is a great suggestion.

"When you say "data" -- are these static files, or something that  
needs server-side scripts to return?"


sims:  Anything from a few text chars that popup in a window via my  
app to a video being downloaded. Depends on how 'enthusiastic' the  
Marketing dudes get.


Thanks to all!
sims
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AW: Can a modal stack has a close box?

[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Hi Jan,
hmmm, perhaps I took the wrong approach. What I wanted to do is a welcome
screen with some basic infos on first start. The User should read the infos
first, before going on, that’s why I wanted modal. And this welcome window
just has 1 only button "close". The close box in the title bar actually
would be a duplicate, but an offer to the users, who are used to close
windows with the close box...
Thanks
Tiemo

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> boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Jan Schenkel
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. Februar 2009 12:14
> An: How to use Revolution
> Betreff: Re: Can a modal stack has a close box?
> 
> 
> --- On Tue, 2/17/09, Tiemo Hollmann TB  wrote:
> 
> > From: Tiemo Hollmann TB 
> > Subject: Can a modal stack has a close box?
> > To: "'How to use Revolution'" 
> > Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 2:52 AM
> > Hello,
> >
> > Is there any option to give a modal stack a close box in
> > the title bar? Or
> > is it the only choice to close a modal stack by my own
> > close button?
> >
> > As far as I experience it, all stack controls are ignored
> > at a modal stack.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Tiemo
> >
> 
> Hi Tiemo,
> 
> As it happens, I'm facing the opposite problem in Java: there's always a
> close box and you can't seem to get rid of it. UI guideline-wise the main
> reason why there's no Close box is simple: what is the effect of closing
> the dialog box without clicking on any of the presented options?
> 
> If the dialog only has a single button (OK, Cancel,...), it's clear: the
> close box is simply the same as the only button. You could conceivably
> have a standard that the Close box is the equivalent of Cancel, but what
> does that say about a dialog box with two buttons "Choice 1" and "Choice
> 2" without a "Cancel" button?
> 
> Best to avoid user confusion altogether, and force them to click one of
> the options you provided as buttons.
> 
> Just my 2 cents,
> 
> Jan Schenkel.
> 
> Quartam Reports & PDF Library for Revolution
> 
> 
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> (La Rochefoucauld)
> 
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> 
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Re: Can a modal stack has a close box?

[Jan Schenkel]

--- On Tue, 2/17/09, Tiemo Hollmann TB  wrote:

> From: Tiemo Hollmann TB 
> Subject: Can a modal stack has a close box?
> To: "'How to use Revolution'" 
> Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 2:52 AM
> Hello,
> 
> Is there any option to give a modal stack a close box in
> the title bar? Or
> is it the only choice to close a modal stack by my own
> close button?
> 
> As far as I experience it, all stack controls are ignored
> at a modal stack.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Tiemo
> 

Hi Tiemo,

As it happens, I'm facing the opposite problem in Java: there's always a close 
box and you can't seem to get rid of it. UI guideline-wise the main reason why 
there's no Close box is simple: what is the effect of closing the dialog box 
without clicking on any of the presented options?

If the dialog only has a single button (OK, Cancel,...), it's clear: the close 
box is simply the same as the only button. You could conceivably have a 
standard that the Close box is the equivalent of Cancel, but what does that say 
about a dialog box with two buttons "Choice 1" and "Choice 2" without a 
"Cancel" button?

Best to avoid user confusion altogether, and force them to click one of the 
options you provided as buttons.

Just my 2 cents,

Jan Schenkel.

Quartam Reports & PDF Library for Revolution


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Can a modal stack has a close box?

[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Hello,

Is there any option to give a modal stack a close box in the title bar? Or
is it the only choice to close a modal stack by my own close button?

As far as I experience it, all stack controls are ignored at a modal stack.

Thanks

Tiemo

 

 

 

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AW: How to launch an app on top of the finder?

[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Thank you Terry, that did it
Tiemo

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> boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Terry Judd
> Gesendet: Montag, 16. Februar 2009 22:31
> An: How to use Revolution
> Betreff: Re: How to launch an app on top of the finder?
> 
> tell application "2" to activate
> 
> Should do it.
> 
> Terry...
> 
> 
> On 17/02/09 1:34 AM, "Tiemo Hollmann TB"  wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > probably an easy one for the Mac guys:
> >
> > When starting app 1 in the finder it launches app 2, BUT app 2 is being
> > launched behind the finder window. Same result if I do just "launch
> myApp"
> > or using "tell application finder to open myApp with applescript"
> >
> > Any idea, how to bring app 2 on top of all windows?
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > Tiemo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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