Re: [ANN] tRev's Raptor feature now available!

2009-09-01 Thread Peter Alcibiades

Jerry, I'm still puzzled about this.  Is it a Rev stack?  And if so, why
won't it run on Linux?  When you go to the buy page, you don't seem to have
to specify a Windows or a Mac version, it seems like one size fits both.

Peter
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Re: Rev Documentation [WAS: Launch another app from my standalone]

2009-09-01 Thread Bernard Devlin
I downloaded an OS X utility (chmox) that can open Windows-only help
files (.chm) files.  So now I can read the documentation you linked
to.  You say you can use this FM documentation in a browser, but
surely that is only on Windows?  Or does FM on OS X install something
that enables you to view it in Safari?

It's not clear me why you think that FM help is better than the
documentation that comes with Revolution.  Maybe the OS X utility does
not render the chm file the way you see it on Windows, so I could be
missing something.

Revolution has:
a) the User Guide in PDF and hard copy formats
b) the Dictionary for reference purposes (also in hard copy format)
c) the introductory and tutorial material in the Resource Center
(which have downloadable stacks, demo vidoes, and the tutorial can be
viewed in PDF format).

The FM help documentation seems to me to offer only 1 thing that the
Rev docs don't: everything is in one place and can be reached by
drilling-down using the disclosure triangles.  I can see why someone
might think that is useful, as there is only one place to look.  But
it could also be a hinderance once one no longer needs the bulk of
that material, but one still has to d

But as far as a new user learning what a tool is all about, I think
the RunRev way is better:
i) a simple book that takes one on a tour of the environment and the
paradigm behind Revolution
ii) individual tutorials that include the material necessary to
complete each tutorial, AND a video

The Rev User Guide and tutorials are far more visiual than the FM
help.  I'm surprised to look through that .chm file and see how
un-visual it is.

And once one is past the learning stage, then as a user the Reference
component of the FM help would also really annoy me and get in my way.
  Rev's dictionary is separate from the rest of the help because once
one is over the initial learning stage, one needs it to be ready to
hand but not obstructive.

Also, when one bears in mind that Rev is a tool with which one could
actually build something like FM, one might expect that the
documentation for FM would be easier to write.  FM has a much more
delimited field of operation: the tutorial material can be focussed on
a smaller area and can be exhaustive.

Please tell me why you think there is something for RunRev to learn
from the way FM has done it.  Is it just that having the User Guide,
the tutorials/videos, and the Dictionary in different places is the
problem?

Maybe there are other components to the FM documentation that would
cover some of the failings I've mentioned.


Bernard

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:21 PM, William Moseidmodelmaste...@cox.net wrote:
 The D/L link is a compressed Help File (fmpro_help) that one can use in a
 browser. What Help?  Well, in this case it is Filemaker. The reason for 
 including it
 is to illustrate a reasonable approach for new to expert Revolution developers
 as another way to present Help for Revolution.

 This is a compiled html file visable in a browser:
 http://www.fmpsolutions.com/fmpro_help.zip
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Re: On-Rev and Daylight Savings Time (Addendum)

2009-09-01 Thread Gregory Lypny

Hi Jim,

Thanks for your thoughtful response.  I had grappled with DST in  
another project that involved press releases that were time stamp  
GMT.  It was tricky.  I like your idea of getting the seconds every  
day at midnight.  That's clever, and I think I can incorporate that  
into my site.  Sarah has a cool time conversion page on her TrozWare  
site that I am going to study as well.


Regards,

Gregory


On Tue 1 Sep 2009, at 1:00 PM, Jim Ault wrote:


Caution:
You can change the time that Rev (or any program) gets on your
computer by simply setting your computer clock to anything you like.
The same thing can happen on any computer or server.  Just ask a large
company that has servers in different cities and countries.

The key to iRev servers is that they are probably extremely stable and
constantly updated to one of the atomic clock sites.
One issue of daylight savings (especially in the state of Indiana) is
that some counties will change their clocks and others will not.

Another issue is that the last daylight savings change in the Spring
was done one week later in the UK than in the US.  The result was two
time changes 7 days apart.

A computer program running on a processor can have functions that ask
the processor for date and time info, but daylight savings changes are
external to the processor.
If you write a function that gets the seconds at midnight each day,
then see if it is 24.0 hours after the previous midnight, you know the
processor has not changed the time zone or time shift in its control
panel settings.

If you have a local processor and one at iRev, you need to track this
for each processor and maintain the correct offset ( +1, -1, 0 ).  You
might want to study GMT options and use one of those.

Hope this helps.

Jim Ault


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Re: On-Rev and Daylight Savings Time (Addendum)

2009-09-01 Thread Jim Ault


On Sep 1, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Gregory Lypny wrote:


Hi Jim,

Thanks for your thoughtful response.  I had grappled with DST in  
another project that involved press releases that were time stamp  
GMT.  It was tricky.  I like your idea of getting the seconds every  
day at midnight.  That's clever, and I think I can incorporate that  
into my site.  Sarah has a cool time conversion page on her TrozWare  
site that I am going to study as well.


Glad you are getting to the bottom of this issue.
Remember, getting the seconds only does so for the operating system  
Rev is running on.  I believe it will be the same for iRev, so when  
they switch in Texas, you will see the change, then be able to compare  
to your local value to see if that changes on the same evening.


I am going to be diving into iRev and time zone changes around the  
world on web servers beginning the end of September, so this same  
issue lies in my immediate future.


Jim Ault
Las Vegas
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Datagrid Form style and closefieldEditor

2009-09-01 Thread Yves COPPE

Hi list,


I have a problem


when i write such a sriipt in the datagrid behavior script of a  
datagrid in a form style :


on CloseFieldEditor pFieldEditor
   SetDataOfIndex the dgIndex of me, the short name of me, the text  
of pFieldEditor

end CloseFieldEditor

The text of the fld in the datagrid is not updated !!

if I ask

on CloseFieldEditor pFieldEditor
  answer the dgIndex of me,the short name of me,the text of  
pFieldEditor

end CloseFieldEditor
all the params are correct and the text of pFieldEditor contains the  
updated txt ...?


what is wrong ?


Thanks


Greetings.

Yves COPPE
yvesco...@skynet.be

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Creating a standalone (choice dimmed)

2009-09-01 Thread Gabel Paul

Dear list members:

I have created standalones many times, but all of a sudden, when I  
choose Save as Standalone Application from the Rev File menu and the  
desktop appears, the rev file I'm trying to create a standalone from  
is dimmed. Anyone have any ideas of what I might be doing wrong (if  
anything)? Thank you.


Paul Gabel
Rev 3.5
iMac
Mac OS X 10.5.8
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Re: Creating a standalone (choice dimmed)

2009-09-01 Thread Sarah Reichelt
When you select Save as standalone, it asks for a folder where you  
want the standalone to be saved. The Rev stack you are building needs  
to be loaded into Rev already.


Since it is looking for a folder at that stage, all files should be  
greyed out and you should only be able to select folders.


Cheers,
Sarah

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On 02/09/2009, at 7:36 AM, Gabel Paul paulga...@comcast.net wrote:


Dear list members:

I have created standalones many times, but all of a sudden, when I  
choose Save as Standalone Application from the Rev File menu and  
the desktop appears, the rev file I'm trying to create a standalone  
from is dimmed. Anyone have any ideas of what I might be doing wrong  
(if anything)? Thank you.


Paul Gabel
Rev 3.5
iMac
Mac OS X 10.5.8
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Re: Datagrid Form style and closefieldEditor

2009-09-01 Thread Trevor DeVore

On Sep 1, 2009, at 5:04 PM, Yves COPPE wrote:

when i write such a sriipt in the datagrid behavior script of a  
datagrid in a form style :


on CloseFieldEditor pFieldEditor
  SetDataOfIndex the dgIndex of me, the short name of me, the text  
of pFieldEditor

end CloseFieldEditor

The text of the fld in the datagrid is not updated !!

...

what is wrong ?


When calling SetDataOfIndex the data grid does not refresh itself so  
that is most likely the problem. I imagine you got the code from http://revolution.screenstepslive.com/spaces/revolution/manuals/datagrid/lessons/4668-How-Do-I-Open-a-Table-Cell-For-Editing- 
 and it appears the example there is incorrect.


I've updated the lesson with code that should work. Does this work for  
you?


on CloseFieldEditor pFieldEditor
   put the dgIndex of me into theIndex
   put the dgDataOfIndex[theIndex] of the dgControl of me into theDataA
   put the text of pFieldEditor into theDataA[the dgColumn] of me
   set the dgDataOfIndex[theIndex] of the dgControl of me to theDataA
end CloseFieldEditor

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DataGrid - drag Drop rearranging order

2009-09-01 Thread jim sims


Can anyone tell me if one can drag  drop to rearrange the order of  
items in a datagrid field?


Has anyone used it and are there any issues with it?


sims
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Re: Datagrid Form style and closefieldEditor

2009-09-01 Thread Yves COPPE


Le 2 sept. 09 à 00:26, Trevor DeVore a écrit :


On Sep 1, 2009, at 5:04 PM, Yves COPPE wrote:

when i write such a sriipt in the datagrid behavior script of a  
datagrid in a form style :


on CloseFieldEditor pFieldEditor
 SetDataOfIndex the dgIndex of me, the short name of me, the text  
of pFieldEditor

end CloseFieldEditor

The text of the fld in the datagrid is not updated !!

...

what is wrong ?


When calling SetDataOfIndex the data grid does not refresh itself so  
that is most likely the problem. I imagine you got the code from http://revolution.screenstepslive.com/spaces/revolution/manuals/datagrid/lessons/4668-How-Do-I-Open-a-Table-Cell-For-Editing- 
 and it appears the example there is incorrect.


I've updated the lesson with code that should work. Does this work  
for you?


on CloseFieldEditor pFieldEditor
  put the dgIndex of me into theIndex
  put the dgDataOfIndex[theIndex] of the dgControl of me into theDataA
  put the text of pFieldEditor into theDataA[the dgColumn] of me
  set the dgDataOfIndex[theIndex] of the dgControl of me to theDataA
end CloseFieldEditor

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Blue Mango Learning Systems



Hi Trevor,

Now it works correctly.

thanks.

Greetings.

Yves COPPE
yvesco...@skynet.be

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