ANN: TwistAWord as Facebook Application

2009-10-04 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hello,

I have created a light version of TwistAWord as the main component of  
a Facebook application, using the Revolution plug-in.


While the full version includes large collections of phrases in  
Catalonian, Danish, English, French, German, Latin, Portuguese and  
Spanish, the lite edition of TwistAWord has 600 English phrases and  
lacks several features.


You can find the TwistAWord Facebook application at http://apps.facebook.com/twistaword/ 
 and more information about TwistAWord is available on its homepage  
at http://www.twistaword.net.


If you like the game, you can send me a friend request, or become a  
fan of Economy-x-Talk's Facebook page.
You can also follow me on Twitter at http://twitter.com/ 
xtalkprogrammer.


--
Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
http://economy-x-talk.com

Submit your software at http://www.quickestpublisher.com

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Re: Practical limits on object counts

2009-10-04 Thread Wilhelm Sanke

Yesterday I had written in response to one of Richard's post of this thread:


Responding to your post, I have expanded my test stack of 2004 to now
containing 1 (ten thousand) fields.

(was: http://www.sanke.org/Software/RevTestStacks.zip for the 
3300-fields stack)


I will post the URL of the new test stack in my next post to this list.

Preliminary results of testing with the 10,000 fields' test stack:

Creating the 1 fields takes around 200 seconds in the Rev IDE, 130
seconds in the MC IDE.
Deleting the 1 fields in the Rev IDE takes 420 seconds in the Rev
IDE, 6 seconds in the MC IDE

The three buttons for creating color patterns need about 2.3 seconds in
the MC IDE, 3.5 seconds in the Rev IDE

When the 1 fields have been created, the Rev IDE is very much
unresponsive, no Problems with the Metacard IDE (with the exception of
the Metacard Control Bowser which needs also more time to respond when
1 fields are present)

I did not yet test to build standalones.


The figures quoted above were measured on a 3 GHz WindowsXP machine with 
Rev engine versions 4.0-dp4.


The problem back in 2004 with the 3300-fields' stack was the intrusion 
of a front- or backscript concerning only table fields, but because this 
script was insufficiently isolated to only monitor table fields, it 
therefore constantly monitored any kind of fields.


Such well-meant, but in many cases unneeded interference from front and 
backscripts is still a very negative characteristic of the Rev IDE. The 
Rev IDE has a very interrelated, intertwined structure. This has 
been discussed several times in the past with proposals to achieve more 
modularity in the Rev IDE, to make a number of parts of the IDE more 
independent of each other.
The present format has reached such a level of interrelatedness that 
the Rev IDE will cease to function completely when you remove certain 
front or backscripts ( I tested this, but do not remember at the moment 
which of these scripts were the culprit).


There may be well also limits located in the engine, but as there are 
clearly to be seen differences between the performances of the Metacard 
and Rev IDEs, it is worth while also to think about improving the Rev IDE.


One thing the Rev IDE does is to add so-called development properties 
to each object that is being created. This process in its result slows 
down the creation of objects and the overall performance of the IDE when 
a certain number of objects has been reached - as Richard found out: 
around 5000.


I now have tested to create standalones from my new 1-fields stack:

Metacard IDE: Creating the standalone took less than one second!
I have to add here that I had to use the Standalone file of Rev 
version 3.5, the file of the 4.0-dp4 version did not work with the 
Metacard IDE, presumably a bug.


Rev IDE: I canceled the test after 40 (forty) minutes. The Rev IDE then 
was still working on Removing development properties, but without a 
final result.
Before I started the standalone builder I had unchecked Search for 
required inclusions ( as there were none ) and to add any dialogs or 
library inclusions.


In section Property Profiles of the standalone settings unfortunately 
you cannot uncheck all of the options, you have to choose from at least 
one of them. So I chose Remove all profiles on objects although I 
really was not interested to achieve this special goal.


After about ten minutes of standalone building the Rev window panes 
turned completely black and after some time returned to normal. After 40 
minutes there was no way to remove the blackness of the Rev Windows, and 
then I force-quit the standalone building via the Windows Task Manager.-


Another observation:

To use less space on the card containing the 1 fields I set the 
width and height of the template field to 4. This worked fine in the 
Metacard IDE when creating the fields.


In the Rev IDE however the size of the created fields - despite the 
template settings of 4 - was a width of 250 and a height of 57 for each 
of the 1 fields.
I found out that this occurs with all template field settings 9 - 
another instance of a unwanted and unneeded intrusion from the side of 
the Rev IDE.


To be able to precisely compare the performances of Metacard and Rev IDE 
I therefore  chose 9 for the template field settings in my test stack.


Best regards,

Wilhelm Sanke
http://www.sanke.org/MetaMedia

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[OT] Memory with VPC on a G4

2009-10-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson

As a defiantly retro sort of chap I run Windows XP
in Virtual PC 7 for PPC Mac; using it as little as I can
possibly manage to test and build for Widows clients.

I am currently spinning-of several standalones for
a new pupil of mine to take home and pop on her
Mum and Dad's box running Windows XP. That,
as such, is unproblematic, except that the Windows
version of the RR 4 dp4 behaves like a 90 year-old
with a bad back because the maximum RAM that
can, apparently, be allottted to VPC is 512 MB. This
is silly as I have 2 GB RAM and can gladly spare
1.5GB for VPC as only running iTunes while I use
VPC.

Does anybody happen to know a 'hack' whereby
one can UP the RAM allotted to VPC to more than
512 MB?

--

I know the obvious answer to this is buy a heap of
junk for $25 to run XP; however in my 'cabin' I am
already being squeezed out by the G4 (with 2 fat monitors),
the PPC macMini, the other heap of junk with Ubuntu,
the BBC Master and the other 'thing' currently running
FreeDOS with a primitive GUI. So, beyond migrating
onto the roof, the cellar, or colonising the sitting-room
I really have to stick with VPC.
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Re: Telnet Shell Help

2009-10-04 Thread Bernard Devlin
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:28 PM, RevList revl...@createchsol.com wrote:
 I need to write a very small utility that uses Telnet so that I can
 connect to a server on port 333 and login with credentials and issue a
 specified command recognized by the server.

Would you be able to use SSH instead of telnet?  Not only is it more
secure than telnet, but it is scriptable too.

Bernard
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Re: Revolution on 65 Bit Windows

2009-10-04 Thread Bill Marriott

Stewart,

Rev and its standalones have worked just fine on my 64-bit versions of Vista 
and Windows 7. Haven't tried Windows Server 2008, but I'm sure that would 
work too.



I don't know if this has been answered before, but I need to know if you
can run a compiled Revolution application on a 64 bit Windows machine
running either Windows Vista or Windows Server 2008?




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Re: Telnet Shell Help

2009-10-04 Thread RevList
Phil Davis rev...@pdslabs.net on October 3, 2009 at 8:47 PM -0700 wrote:
Maybe it wouldn't be as hard if you opened telnet with open process for 
update and interacted with it that way. Then the socket-handling 
business would be done by the OS. Recently Josh Mellicker showed me how 
to do that with 'curl' using 'open process for read' and it made it 
super easy.

Phil Davis

Mark Smith li...@futilism.com on October 3, 2009 at 5:46 PM -0700 wrote:
Stewart, I think you could do telnet over a socket connection. See  
open socket, write to socket and friends in the docs.


This is what I would like to do, but have no idea on how to implement
this.  I have not used sockets ever and I really need a simple sample app
that would help me to get started.

I don't really know how to start.
I need to telnet to a server and enter the credentials and once
authenticated, send a script that the server understands.
I do it in terminal or in the command line on window but I want to
automate it through revolution.
I understand that when I open a socket to that computer on port 333 (which
is the port I need to use) then the port is open.
I get an open connection but how do I send the commands and know when or
if the server has received and accepted the commands so that I can send
the next one.
For example, when I connect over telnet, I know I have a connection and
can issue my next command, because the terminal displays +0

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Stewart


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Different objects have different properties

2009-10-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson

Yeah, I know; stating the crashingly obvious.

BUT; I don't see why this should be necessary, if Graphic Objects
can have a Label (even though, by default, this possibility is hidden
from us) why can they not have icons?

Presumably the answer, like so many answers, is that somebody
made a reasonably random decision, not thinking that somebody
might, one day, wish to assign an icon to a Graphic object.

Trying to work round this one I found that one also cannot assign
imageData to a graphic object:

put the imageData of img ID 1007 into grc gXXX

NOR can one do this sort of thing:

put img m.png into grc gXXX

what is faintly misleading is that the ScriptEditor in RR 4 dp-4
doesn't find anything wrong with these lines of code.

The best way round this problem seems to be something
like this:

set the pattern of  grc gXXX to 1007

where 1007 is an imageID.

The only snag is that your Graphic Object shouldn't be
much larger than the image you are using as an icon
unless you want it tiled as a repeating pattern.



Why not do away with hard-and-fast defined object types
and have a generic OBJECT which could have its TYPE
defined just as all its other properties? This would make
things considerably more flexible.
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Re: ANN: TwistAWord as Facebook Application

2009-10-04 Thread Sannyasin Sivakatirswami
Mark, fantastic! Can't wait to show this off to others to give them an idea
of what can be done with the new plug in. Of course we have to wait until
the final (64-bit enabled) plug-in is released. Most everyone here is on
Safari-Snowleopard and so it won't work... -- Yes, I know about the 32 bit
switch, but for naive users that's not an option... it needs to run out of
the box) -- I guess it is still best to wait before unwrapping this outside
our runRev community.


On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Mark Schonewille 
m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I have created a light version of TwistAWord as the main component of a
 Facebook application, using the Revolution plug-in.

 While the full version includes large collections of phrases in Catalonian,
 Danish, English, French, German, Latin, Portuguese and Spanish, the lite
 edition of TwistAWord has 600 English phrases and lacks several features.

 You can find the TwistAWord Facebook application at 
 http://apps.facebook.com/twistaword/ and more information about
 TwistAWord is available on its homepage at http://www.twistaword.net.

 If you like the game, you can send me a friend request, or become a fan of
 Economy-x-Talk's Facebook page.
 You can also follow me on Twitter at http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer.

 --
 Best regards,

 Mark Schonewille

 Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
 http://economy-x-talk.com

 Submit your software at http://www.quickestpublisher.com

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Re: ANN: TwistAWord as Facebook Application

2009-10-04 Thread Paul Foraker
I ran it on Firefox/Snow Leopard and it worked great. Didn't try Safari.

On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Sannyasin Sivakatirswami ka...@hindu.orgwrote:

 Mark, fantastic! Can't wait to show this off to others to give them an idea
 of what can be done with the new plug in. Of course we have to wait until
 the final (64-bit enabled) plug-in is released. Most everyone here is on
 Safari-Snowleopard and so it won't work... -- Yes, I know about the 32 bit
 switch, but for naive users that's not an option... it needs to run out of
 the box) -- I guess it is still best to wait before unwrapping this outside
 our runRev community.


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Re: ANN: TwistAWord as Facebook Application

2009-10-04 Thread Colin Holgate
Can you check something in the game? I had the smokers sentence one,  
and the final answer was also the one I had tried first go, but was  
told that it was wrong. I believe that it's because there are two  
pieces that both read  smoke. , and I may have placed the two in the  
opposite placement of the official answer.



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