date:20091030


Sarah Reichelt wrote:


You can have two stacks open on the same page, if they share the same
instance ID. You need to set this ID in the HTML that displays the 2
stacks.


I just tried this, it works great. Communication between stacks is just 
like in the IDE, at least with my simple test.


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Re: Autocomplete field

2009-10-30 Thread Peter Brigham MD


On Oct 29, 2009, at 9:53 PM, capellan wrote:


Hi Peter,

Many thanks for posting this handler.
Filtering the search results is a
great idea! Thanks again.

Looks like your handler was cut-off,
because the rawKeydown handler
does not had a closing match.


yes, I only included the first part of the handler. See below for  
complete script.



While running this handler, i always get
the word "sEntryBuffer" in the field "enterPt"
and could not erase the content using
backspace or delete keys.

Obviously, i am doing something wrong.
Could you point me where is my error?


Not sure. Have you tried stepping through it in debug mode? That  
should reveal what is going on.


Below is the complete group script that works for me. I changed the  
rawkeyup handler to make deleting work as expected -- before, hitting  
the delete key resulted in very weird behavior. Now at least you can  
delete properly. And I changed the rawkeyup handler to allow exiting  
completely using the escape key, which will empty the field to start  
over. I also added cases at the end of the rawkeydown handler to allow  
scrolling of the popup list field.


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As before, my changes are commented with "--##"
Watch line wraps



global ptList
local sCurrFld, sEntryBuffer

on mouseUp
  if the short name of the target is "enterPt" then
put the selectedText of fld "enterPt" into fld "enterPt"
select after fld "enterPt"
put fld "enterPt" into sEntryBuffer
  end if
end mouseUp

on focusIn # when focus goes to field by a handler
  put fld "enterPt" into sEntryBuffer
  if the selectedText of fld "enterPt" <> empty then
replace (the selectedText of fld "enterPt") with empty in  
sEntryBuffer

  end if
  pass focusIn
end focusIn

on openField # when focus goes to field by user click
  put fld "enterPt" into sEntryBuffer
  if the selectedText of fld "enterPt" <> empty then
replace (the selectedText of fld "enterPt") with empty in  
sEntryBuffer

  end if
  pass openField
end openField

on selectionChanged
  put fld "enterPt" into sEntryBuffer
  if the selectedText of fld "enterPt" <> empty then
replace (the selectedText of fld "enterPt") with empty in  
sEntryBuffer

  end if
  pass selectionChanged
end selectionChanged

on rawKeyDown pWhich
  if the commandKey is down then pass rawKeyDown
  # exclude any functions like copy, paste, etc.
  if pWhich <= 255 then # for anything that's in ascii range
 put the selectedChunk into tSelChunk
 if word 2 of tSelChunk <= word 4 of tSelChunk then
 # adding a char to the end of the entry buffer
put sEntryBuffer & numToChar(pWhich) into sEntryBuffer
 else # inserting a char inside the entry buffer
put numToChar(pWhich) after char word 4 of tSelChunk of  
sEntryBuffer

put sEntryBuffer into fld "enterPt"
 end if
 --## I added the following two lines
 --## pList is a global containing the full list of names
 put ptList into selectedPts
 filter selectedPts with sEntryBuffer & "*"
 --## now selectedPts contains only those entries that match
 --## this shortens & simplifies the display list
 put lineOffset(cr & sEntryBuffer, cr & selectedPts) into  
currentLine

 if currentLine > 0 then
put selectedPts into fld "pList"
--## instead of putting the whole list into the field
showUserList
set the hilitedLines of field "pList" to currentLine
set the scroll of field "pList" to \
   (currentLine - 1) * the effective textHeight of field  
"pList"

put the selectedText of fld "pList" into fld "enterPt"
select char (word 2 of tSelChunk) + 1 to -1 of fld "enterPt"
 else
hide fld "pList"
set the hilitedline of fld "pList" to 0
put sEntryBuffer into fld "enterPt"
select after char word 4 of tSelChunk + 1 of fld "enterPt"
 end if
  else # handle all other keys
  switch pWhich
 case 65364  # down arrow
if the visible of fld "pList" then
   put the hilitedLine of field "pList" into currentLine
   if currentLine < the number of lines in fld "pList" then
  add 1 to currentLine
  set the hilitedLines of field "pList" to currentLine
   end if
   put the selectedText of fld "pList" into fld "enterPt"
   select after fld "enterPt"
end if
pass rawKeyDown
break
 case 65362 # up arrow
if the visible of fld "pList" then
   put the hilitedLine of field "pList" into currentLine
   if currentLine > 1 then
  subtract 1 from currentLine
  set the hilitedLines of field "pList" to currentLine
   end if
   put the selectedText of fld "pList" into fld "enterPt"
   select after fld "en

Re: RevMedia Woes


James Hurley wrote:

The most troublesome thing about Rev animation for me is the basic 
inability to move an object slowly and smoothly across the screen.


No matter what combination of number of points, type of looping method, 
or loop timing, I always get a herky-jerky motion.


This is a problem in the the desktop and is aggravated in the RevLet.

It is noticeable on Rev's web site: http://revmedia.runrev.com/revMedia/
Notice, for example, the animation of: move image "Rev Icon" to the 
points of graphic "Curve"


Odd, it's very smooth on my iMac. No jerks at all. Could it be related 
to platform? Browser? CPU?


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Re: RevMedia Woes

2009-10-30 Thread James Hurley

Message: 14
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:08:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: capellan 
Subject: Re: RevMedia Woes
To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Message-ID: <26134609.p...@talk.nabble.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi Jim,

James Hurley wrote:

I don't know if this is related, but I have found that there is a
significant increase in speed in going from Rev IDE on Mac OS to the
revLet see discussion below.
I've been waiting for some clarification from Rev.
[snip]
go url "http://jamesphurley.on-rev.com/OnRevGraphicTimer.rev";
And on the Web, go to
http://jamesphurley.on-rev.com/OnRevTimer/test.html

In the first card, the speed i see in my browser ranges from 289
milliseconds
to 450 milliseconds. Oddly enough, there are too many variations of  
speed

among repetitions that  i dont know which of these speed is the most
reliable measure.

[Snip]

Alejandro
--

Yes, I find a great deal of variation as well.

The most troublesome thing about Rev animation for me is the basic  
inability to move an object slowly and smoothly across the screen.

No matter what combination of number of points, type of looping  
method, or loop timing, I always get a herky-jerky motion.

This is a problem in the the desktop and is aggravated in the RevLet.

It is noticeable on Rev's web site: http://revmedia.runrev.com/revMedia/
Notice, for example, the animation of: move image "Rev Icon" to the  
points of graphic "Curve"

There is an app for the iPhone called FlightControl in which a number  
of planes are moving asynchronously  across the screen. The motion is  
PERFECTLY smooth. It is a beautiful thing to watch. I wouldn't attempt  
this in Rev.  Animation has not been a priority for Rev--and rightly  
so. They have bigger fish to fry.

Jim Hurley

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Re: Another "How to do this in a Revlet?" thread


Alejandro wrote:


Actually, these are plain and simple vector graphics, organized
like concentric rings that you could show and hide, depending
of zoom level.


I figured they were vector, but the show/hide part I hadn't thought of. 
  Makes good sense, though, keeps the number of things on screen to a 
minimum.


Nice idea, rather like the famous ZoomQuilt:



This zoom slider is actually scaling all graphics from
the center. Adobe Flash do not scale all vector graphics
at the same time. This is an illusion. But a really fast one.
I had published an stack that uses matrices to scale vector
graphics. Scaling the points of vector graphics in a loop or
driven by a scale slider should be no problem. ;-)
http://www.capellan2000.000space.com/graphics_transformations_01.zip


I wish I go see it, but when I click it I wind up here:


:\

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Re: [ANN] RevLetObject javascript include.

2009-10-30 Thread Sivakatirswami


Never mind... I figured it out... it's too easy

one 

# mainstack is called:


   

and second 

# substack is called:


   

Let us hope this behavior "sticks" thru the coming iterations

When they announced substacks would not be honored to open independently,
nothing was mentioned about this option as an alternative.

Presumably if you were really good with Javascript you might be able to 
dynamically generate

the second div on demand? and perhaps revWebPlayer would load it?

One would then need a way to trigger the revWebPlayer to
instantiate the substack in the new innerHTML...

Andre?

skts









  



with the

Sivakatirswami wrote:

Sarah Reichelt wrote:

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Sannyasin Sivakatirswami
 wrote:
 

ï¿½Can the two revlets open on the same page talk to each other ?

ï¿½i.e. can we do

in the first stack... call it "eBook"

on OpenTOC
ï¿½ go to card 1 of stack "Table of Contents"
end openTOC

where stack "Table of Contents" is the other stack?

and then in Table of Contents we have a script for

on clickLine
ï¿½ go to card ï¿½( value of the clickline) of stack "eBook"
end clickline




You can have two stacks open on the same page, if they share the same
instance ID. You need to set this ID in the HTML that displays the 2
stacks.
  
Outstanding! Most significant is the drawing app... the reference to 
"substack"  This may be the
solution to my "problem" of not having substacks open in separate 
windows.


If the stack is deployed as a single stack, how to you trigger:
the instantiaton/opening of the substack in a separate 

? I don't see anything in the standalong builder that indicates what 
to do... there is an obscure "Affiliates" option with a place to enter 
and ID


Where is the documentation? for doing the above?  I looked in 
"Beginner's Guide"



OH boy... the splash screen example triggered Font Agent Pro to open 
every single font on my system!

(hehe)  Look fabulous though!





There is an example of this here
 where the 2 stacks
appear together and interact.

Cheers,
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Re: [ANN] RevLetObject javascript include.

2009-10-30 Thread Sivakatirswami


Sarah Reichelt wrote:

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Sannyasin Sivakatirswami
 wrote:
  

�Can the two revlets open on the same page talk to each other ?

�i.e. can we do

in the first stack... call it "eBook"

on OpenTOC
� go to card 1 of stack "Table of Contents"
end openTOC

where stack "Table of Contents" is the other stack?

and then in Table of Contents we have a script for

on clickLine
� go to card �( value of the clickline) of stack "eBook"
end clickline




You can have two stacks open on the same page, if they share the same
instance ID. You need to set this ID in the HTML that displays the 2
stacks.
  
Outstanding! Most significant is the drawing app... the reference to 
"substack"  This may be the

solution to my "problem" of not having substacks open in separate windows.

If the stack is deployed as a single stack, how to you trigger:
the instantiaton/opening of the substack in a separate 

? I don't see anything in the standalong builder that indicates what to 
do... there is an obscure "Affiliates" option with a place to enter and ID


Where is the documentation? for doing the above?  I looked in 
"Beginner's Guide"



OH boy... the splash screen example triggered Font Agent Pro to open 
every single font on my system!

(hehe)  Look fabulous though!





There is an example of this here
 where the 2 stacks
appear together and interact.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: [ANN] RevLetObject javascript include.

2009-10-30 Thread Sarah Reichelt

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Sannyasin Sivakatirswami
 wrote:
>  Can the two revlets open on the same page talk to each other ?
>
>  i.e. can we do
>
> in the first stack... call it "eBook"
>
> on OpenTOC
>   go to card 1 of stack "Table of Contents"
> end openTOC
>
> where stack "Table of Contents" is the other stack?
>
> and then in Table of Contents we have a script for
>
> on clickLine
>   go to card  ( value of the clickline) of stack "eBook"
> end clickline


You can have two stacks open on the same page, if they share the same
instance ID. You need to set this ID in the HTML that displays the 2
stacks.
There is an example of this here
 where the 2 stacks
appear together and interact.

Cheers,
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Re: [ANN] RevLetObject javascript include.

2009-10-30 Thread Sarah Reichelt

> My only worry is: What could happen in the
> specific case that users had disabled javascript,
> just like some Firefox extensions do.

The standard page created when building for web, uses JavaScript to
set certain page elements to visible, depending on whether or not the
JavaScript functions detect the revWeb plugin. If JavaScript is
disabled, then this cannot work, so the revlet is not displayed, and
neither is the message to go & install the plugin.

I haven't looked at Andre's JavaScript yet, but it would be good to
add a  tag to show a message if JavaScript is disabled.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: [ANN] RevLetObject javascript include.

2009-10-30 Thread Sannyasin Sivakatirswami

 Can the two revlets open on the same page talk to each other ?

 i.e. can we do

in the first stack... call it "eBook"

on OpenTOC
   go to card 1 of stack "Table of Contents"
end openTOC

where stack "Table of Contents" is the other stack?

and then in Table of Contents we have a script for

on clickLine
   go to card  ( value of the clickline) of stack "eBook"
end clickline



On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 2:36 PM, capellan  wrote:

>
> Many thanks for sharing this useful script! :-D
>
> My only worry is: What could happen in the
> specific case that users had disabled javascript,
> just like some Firefox extensions do.
>
> By the way, Andre, Could you prepare an online demo
> of revlets and javascript interaction?
>
> I have to ask about this because you are one
> of the participants in this mail list, that have
> extensive knowledge in revTalk and Javascript.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Alejandro
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Re: [ANN] RevLetObject javascript include.


Many thanks for sharing this useful script! :-D

My only worry is: What could happen in the
specific case that users had disabled javascript,
just like some Firefox extensions do.

By the way, Andre, Could you prepare an online demo
of revlets and javascript interaction?

I have to ask about this because you are one
of the participants in this mail list, that have
extensive knowledge in revTalk and Javascript.

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Trademark symbol in a label or edit field

2009-10-30 Thread Charles Szasz


Devin,

Thanks so much for that suggestion! I will try and see if it works when I
run the program on a pc.


Devin Asay wrote:
> 
> Charles,
> 
> One more option: sometimes it is more reliable for cross-platform apps  
> to use html entities:
> 
>copyright symbol: ©
> 
>registered trademark symbol: ®
> 
>trademark symbol: ™
> 
> Examples:
> 
>set the htmltext of fld "copyrightNotice" to "©2009"
>set the htmltext of fld "tradmarkNotice" to "Revolution® is  
> a trademark of RunRev Ltd."
>set the htmltext of fld "tradmemark2" to "Try Revolution™  
> for all your programming needs!"
> 
> HTH
> 
> Devin
> 
> On Oct 29, 2009, at 4:23 PM, Charles Szasz wrote:
> 
>>
>> Terry,
>>
>> Thanks! I will try it out windows to see if it shows up correctly!
>>
>>
>> Terry Judd wrote:
>>>
>>> It's numToChar(168) on the Mac and numToChar(174) on Windows if  
>>> that's any
>>> help.
>>>
>>> Terry...
>>>
>>>
>>> On 30/10/09 7:18 AM, "Charles Szasz"  wrote:
>>>

 Thanks Colin!

 I am aware of the shortcut (Option + 2) but I did not know if  
 Revolution
 would support this in fields on both the Mac and Windows. I had  
 checked
 Rev's Dictionary and did not find any listing for it.


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>
>
> On Oct 29, 2009, at 4:06 PM, Charles Szasz wrote:
>
>>
>> How do you insert the trademark symbol (circle with the letter
>> inside it) in
>> a label or edit field in Revolution? I want to cite of a product
>> with its
>> trademark.
>
>
> Usually there's a keyboard shortcut for doing that. On Mac it's
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Re: Another "How to do this in a Revlet?" thread

Hi Richard,

Actually, these are plain and simple vector graphics, organized
like concentric rings that you could show and hide, depending
of zoom level.

This zoom slider is actually scaling all graphics from
the center. Adobe Flash do not scale all vector graphics
at the same time. This is an illusion. But a really fast one.
I had published an stack that uses matrices to scale vector
graphics. Scaling the points of vector graphics in a loop or
driven by a scale slider should be no problem. ;-)
http://www.capellan2000.000space.com/graphics_transformations_01.zip

Scott Rossi published an stack that shows a rotating and scaling
vector graphic:
http://tactilemedia.com/site_files/downloads/tutti3d.rev.zip

About the seemingly infinite zoom, you could simulate this
showing a new group of vector graphics when the outer container
group of graphics reach certain zoom level.

Did you notice that small graphics in the center, only show
distinguishable details after they reach certain size? You could
use this exact scale point to hide the outer vector container group
and show a new vector graphics group that you could keep scaling.

When the container group is zoomed out of the stack
area, hide this group and the scale slider controls the
resize of the recently visible group.

In this way, you are zooming only one group of graphics,
not all the groups at the same time. And when the group
reach a certain scale or zoom, you show a new group
and hide previous zoomed group. Keep doing this ad infinitum.
Like showing and hiding concentric rings.

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Re: [ANN]My stuff is moving...

2009-10-30 Thread Mark Smith

The new library is quite a lot more developed. One big difference is  
that it uses curl (via libRevCurl), rather than it's own http/socket  
routines.
That may or may not be a problem in any given application - for  
instance, Windows doesn't have curl as part of it's normal  
installation, while OS X and most Linuxes do (curl is available for  
windows, though).


One advantage of curl wrt to Rev and AWS is that it makes it possible  
to run transfers (potentially a lot) in parallell.


The reason I've put the new AWS libs up there is that I was waiting  
until I'd done some decent docs, and though I still intend to, I  
don't think I'm going to have time to do it very soon, so I thought  
I'd put them up there for those who don't mind figuring out a certain  
amount of stuff for themselves.


I'll certainly be able to answer queries via email or on the list.  
But docs are hard!


Best,

Mark Smith


On 30 Oct 2009, at 21:59, Martin Koob wrote:


Mark Smith  writes:



I've moved my revolution download page from dreamhost to on-rev:
http://marksmith.on-rev.com/revstuff/index.html

The Dreamhost page will stay up for a while, but I don't know how  
long.


Best,

Mark Smith
_



Hi Mark.

I just recently tried your libS3 for a project I am planning.
I had been reading up on S3 trying to figure out
how rev could work with it,  I thought it was beyond my capabilities
till I found your library.   It was amazing.  Using your sample app
I was uploading and downloading to my buckets in minutes.

I noticed on your new site you have another library libAws which
includes S3.  Would you recommend using this library rather than  
libS3?


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Re: [ANN]My stuff is moving...

2009-10-30 Thread Martin Koob

Mark Smith  writes:

> 
> I've moved my revolution download page from dreamhost to on-rev:  
> http://marksmith.on-rev.com/revstuff/index.html
> 
> The Dreamhost page will stay up for a while, but I don't know how long.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Mark Smith
> _

Hi Mark.   

I just recently tried your libS3 for a project I am planning.  
I had been reading up on S3 trying to figure out
how rev could work with it,  I thought it was beyond my capabilities
till I found your library.   It was amazing.  Using your sample app
I was uploading and downloading to my buckets in minutes.

I noticed on your new site you have another library libAws which
includes S3.  Would you recommend using this library rather than libS3?

Martin Koob

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Re: RevMedia Question: Securing the revlet?


Hi Malte,

This is similar to methods used
by Director and Flash to stop
users of running their apps
from their hard disk.

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Re: backgroundBehavior ?

2009-10-30 Thread Mark Wieder

Richmond-

Friday, October 30, 2009, 12:20:16 PM, you wrote:

> I can only conclude it had to be saved, purged from the memory and
> reloaded for things to start functioning.

Well, it worked for me the first time without any of that fiddling, so
again I'm left clueless. Glad you got it working, though.

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Re: backgroundBehavior ?

2009-10-30 Thread Richmond Mathewson


Mark Wieder wrote:

Richmond-

Friday, October 30, 2009, 11:31:08 AM, you wrote:

  

Please advise . . .  :)



It works here in 3.5 and 4.0dp5. Not much advice, I know.

  

Very queer indeed. I have just reopened the stack and now it functions.

I can only conclude it had to be saved, purged from the memory and
reloaded for things to start functioning.

Your "Not much advice" was a sufficient kick in the pants for me to
reinvestigate, and for that I thank you . . .  :)
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Re: backgroundBehavior ?

2009-10-30 Thread Mark Wieder

Richmond-

Friday, October 30, 2009, 11:31:08 AM, you wrote:

> Please advise . . .  :)

It works here in 3.5 and 4.0dp5. Not much advice, I know.

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Drag/Move Cursor?

2009-10-30 Thread David Glasgow



On 30 Oct 2009, at 1:14 pm, Rick Harrison wrote:


I've been trying to figure out how to programmatically
move/drag the cursor in a stack to mimic what a human
would do, as a teaching aid.  The documentation is not
very clear on how to accomplish this.


I have done a fair bit of mucking around moving and constraining the  
cursor.  It can get a bit ugly, tricky, disturbing for the user and  
deprecated by user interface purists.  Much better to hide the cursor  
(set the cursor to none) and then show a fake cursor which you can  
move between two points or along a path as you would with any  
object.  You can even colour the teaching cursor to indicate that  
this is showing the user something and so won't be responsive to  
mouse movements.


David Glasgow
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backgroundBehavior ?

2009-10-30 Thread Richmond Mathewson


Well, one is never too old to learn new (old?) tricks . . .  :)

So, I created a main stack and made a group on the first card (called 
"gBOX")

consisting of a button and a field; then popped this into the Message Box:

set the backgroundBehavior of group "gBOX" to true

hoping that as I made new cards my group "gBOX" would automagically
appear on them: but it didn't . . .

Please advise . . .  :)
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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta

2009-10-30 Thread Richard Miller


David,

There is an extra tab in my example, but it doesn't effect anything. The 
problem remains as described. Did you try it in your browser and have it 
work properly?


Richard




dfepst...@comcast.net wrote:

Richard Miller wrote:
...
1. Create a popup button. It will come with three lines of data in it.

...
3. Go back and enter this into the message box:

put return & tab & tab & "choice x" after line 1 of btn 1

4. In the development environment, "choice x" should now appear as a 
sub-choice of the first menu item, and you should be able to select it.

...

Looks like there's an extra "tab" in your step 3.

David Epstein
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Re: RevMedia Woes

Hi Jim,

James Hurley wrote:
> 
> I don't know if this is related, but I have found that there is a  
> significant increase in speed in going from Rev IDE on Mac OS to the  
> revLet see discussion below.
> I've been waiting for some clarification from Rev.
> [snip]
> go url "http://jamesphurley.on-rev.com/OnRevGraphicTimer.rev";
> And on the Web, go to
> http://jamesphurley.on-rev.com/OnRevTimer/test.html
> 

In the first card, the speed i see in my browser ranges from 289
milliseconds
to 450 milliseconds. Oddly enough, there are too many variations of speed
among repetitions that  i dont know which of these speed is the most
reliable measure.

Hugh Senior wrote:
> "Plugin failed to load." 

I suspect that Web Server and download speed have
something to do with this error.
Have you noticed that revlets samples posted in Runrev
site always work?

Alejandro
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[ANN] RevLetObject javascript include.

2009-10-30 Thread Andre Garzia

Hello Folks,

It is with immense happiness that I announce the immediate availability of
RevLetObject. As many here know, instantiating revlets is a tricky thing and
I bet most people here just copy & paste from the test.html generated by Rev
IDE into their own page. If you want to load more than one revlet or want to
do it at runtime, then, using those ugly HTML constructs will be a tad hard.
Right now, loading a revlet looks like this, pardon me for the huge quote,
but I want to make a point, just scroll down:

--


 

 

 




http://revweb.runrev.com";>http://www.runrev.com/revweb/images/revweb-noplugin.gif"; border=0>







var agt=navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase();
var ie  = (agt.indexOf("msie") != -1);
var ns  = (navigator.appName.indexOf("Netscape") != -1);
var win = ((agt.indexOf("win")!=-1) || (agt.indexOf("32bit")!=-1));
var mac = (agt.indexOf("mac")!=-1);
if(ie && win){ pluginlist =
detectIE("RunRev.RevWebPluginCtrl.1","Revolution"); }
if (ns || !win){ nse = ""; for(var i=0;i\n on error resume next \n result =
IsObject(CreateObject("' + ClassID + '"))\\n'); if (result) return
name+','; else return ''; }
function detectNS(ClassID,name) { n = ""; if (nse.indexOf(ClassID) != -1) if
(navigator.mimeTypes[ClassID].enabledPlugin != null) n = name+","; return n;
}
pluginlist += navigator.javaEnabled() ? "Java," : "";
if (pluginlist.length > 0) pluginlist =
pluginlist.substring(0,pluginlist.length-1);
var plugin = document.getElementById("plugin");
var noplugin = document.getElementById("noplugin");
plugin.style.display = "none";
noplugin.style.display = "none";
if(pluginlist.indexOf("Revolution")!=-1){ plugin.style.display = "block";
}else{ noplugin.style.display = "block"; }



-


With revletobject.js it looks like:

  revletobject.load({
width: 360,
height: 290,
src: "demo.revlet",
stack: "demo",
instanceID: "1",
id: "params",
params: {
  test: "this is a test",
  color: "blue"}
}
  );

Yes, that simple! It uses a JSON as parameter, and the key/value pairs are
pretty straight forward. RevLetObject also provides a pluginloaded()
function that will return true or false depending on the availability of the
plugin. So you can wrap it all like:

No plugin.

if (revletobject.pluginloaded()) {
  revletobject.load({
width: 360,
height: 290,
src: "demo.revlet",
stack: "demo",
instanceID: "1",
id: "params",
params: {
  test: "this is a test",
  color: "blue"}
}
  );
}


This will check if the plugin is loaded, if so it will replace the div with
id "params" with the revlet as specified by the id key on the load call...

You can see a demo at:

http://andregarzia.com/revletobject/demo.html

or get it from

http://hg.andregarzia.com/revletobject

There is a wiki available at:

http://hg.andregarzia.com/revletobject/wiki/Home

I also show some nice revlet javascript interaction on that demo.

By the way, this is released on the terms of MIT license.

Cheers and have fun!
Andre



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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta

2009-10-30 Thread dfepstein

Richard Miller wrote:
...
1. Create a popup button. It will come with three lines of data in it.

...
3. Go back and enter this into the message box:

put return & tab & tab & "choice x" after line 1 of btn 1

4. In the development environment, "choice x" should now appear as a 
sub-choice of the first menu item, and you should be able to select it.
...

Looks like there's an extra "tab" in your step 3.

David Epstein
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Re: Another "How to do this in a Revlet?" thread

2009-10-30 Thread BNig


When doing a repeated resize of an image you might want to consider bugzilla
Report #8302.
It describes a funny problem in Revlets and stacks that leaks memory when an
image is repeatedly resized AND the image was from a JPEG image. No leak if
image was a png or if image is still referenced via filename (referenced
JPEGs dont leak)
regards
Bernd


Richard Gaskin wrote:
> 
> Jacque wrote:
> 
>> Richard Gaskin wrote:
>>> This is not only cool, but this type of zooming can be instructionally 
>>> useful:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anyone here pull off something like that in Rev?
>> 
>> I haven't, but I don't think it would be hard. It's just a 
>> high-resolution image that is continually scaled. I'd put a scrollbar 
>> under the image, scripted to reset the scale of the image object, and 
>> that should do it. If you want smooth scaling, you'd need to continually 
>> rescale in a loop, in very small increments, until the target scale is 
>> reached.
> 
> I'm attracted to the idea that it could be easy, but I think in practice 
> it may be quite harder than it looks.
> 
> For starters, it loads really fast so it's gotta be vector objects 
> rather than a large scaled bitmap image.
> 
> And given its size when you're zoomed in all the way, it would almost 
> certainly exceed Rev's 4095-pixel limit on image size (do I have that 
> limit correct?).
> 
> I think it would require some nifty scaling algorithms, and with Flash 
> doing this almost automatically and with us needing to do this in 
> script, I'm having a hard time figuring out how one could do that as 
> gracefully.
> 
> --
>   Richard Gaskin
> 
> 

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Re: Non-Latin Web Addresses Coming Soon

2009-10-30 Thread François Chaplais



Le 30 oct. 2009 à 18:45, stephen barncard a écrit :


This could divide the web more than help it IMHO.

Also the 'World Wide Web' hasn't been around for 4 decades!

wasn't there an issue a few years ago with cyrillic dots used to fake  
ascii dot for phishing purposes?


François

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Re: Another "How to do this in a Revlet?" thread

2009-10-30 Thread Scott Rossi

Recently, Richard Gaskin wrote:

>>> This is not only cool, but this type of zooming can be instructionally
>>> useful:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anyone here pull off something like that in Rev?

Ian's right: it's separate vector graphics in Flash.

The thing that makes this ultra easy in Flash and ultra challenging in Rev
is you can't easily scale a group (why? it's almost 2010 -- we should have
flying cars and scaling groups in Rev should be a given by now).

If you're going to try it in Rev, there's no need to use images -- graphics
should work -- and you *might* get better performance using graphics, but
then again, handling of numerous objects of any type at large size often
slows down Rev, so images may be the way to go.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design

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Re: Non-Latin Web Addresses Coming Soon

2009-10-30 Thread stephen barncard

This could divide the web more than help it IMHO.

Also the 'World Wide Web' hasn't been around for 4 decades!


-
Stephen Barncard
San Francisco
http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev


2009/10/30 Michael Kann 

> >From the NY Times online this morning:
>
> SEOUL — By the middle of next year, Internet surfers will be allowed to use
> Web addresses written completely in Chinese, Arabic, Korean and other
> non-Latin alphabets, the organization overseeing Internet domain names
> announced on Friday in a decision that could make the Web more accessible.
>
> In a move billed as one of the biggest changes in the Web’s four-decade
> history, the board of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and
> Numbers — or ICANN — voted Friday to allow such scripts in Internet
> addresses during its annual meeting, held in Seoul.
>
> - snip 
>
> This change only affects domain names — anything that comes after the dot,
> such as .com, .cn or .jp. Until now, they could only be in 37 characters —
> 26 Latin letters, 10 digits or a dash. But starting next year, domain names
> can be the characters of any language.
>
> The decision, reached after years of testing and debate, clears the way for
> ICANN to begin accepting applications for non-Latin domain names on Nov. 16.
> People will start seeing them in use around mid-2010, particularly in
> Arabic, Chinese and other scripts in which demand for the new
> “internationalized” domain name system has been among the highest, ICANN
> officials say.
>
> Initially, the new naming system will only affect Web addresses with
> “country codes,” the designators at the end of an address name, such as .kr
> (for Korea) or .ru (for Russia). But eventually, it will be expanded to all
> types of Internet address names, ICANN said.
>
> - snip 
>
> Full article here:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/31/technology/31net.html?_r=1&hp
>
> -- only a few more fluff paragraphs
> -- registration required
>
> Michael Kann
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Error installing RevMedia 4.0 DP5


Yves COPPE wrote:


Le 30 oct. 09 à 17:55, J. Landman Gay a écrit :


Yves COPPE wrote:

Le 30 oct. 09 à 00:34, J. Landman Gay a écrit :

Yves COPPE wrote:

Hi list
When I start installing revMedia 4 dp5 and after the unpacking of 
the 5 pkgs, hte installing is cancelled automatically and I get 
such a message :

An error occured installing the product
To inform revolution about this error, please quote error code 
43F.10FC
Please clic "try again" of "send error report" to automatically 
post error information to Revolution


What OS are you running?


Re,
mac OS X Leopard 10.5.8 on an intel Core 2 duo macBook





Re

how can i throw away the files that are loaded to force a new downoad
When I ask to try again, it starts automatically with "unpacking1/5"

I think there could be a problem at the download time, so I'd like to 
re-donwload the files again



Greetings.

Yves COPPE
yvesco...@skynet.be

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Hello Yves,
I ran into exactly the same trouble the other evening when trying to do 
the update on my Vista machine. Couldn't find an uninstaller directly 
through the O/S, but did find one after digging around in the 
application folder (my system):


C:\Program Files\Revolution Media 4.0.0\Installation Data\

I ran the uninstaller, then re-installed the new version and all is well.

Best regards,
David C.
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Re: Another "How to do this in a Revlet?" thread

2009-10-30 Thread Devin Asay



On Oct 30, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:


Jacque wrote:


Richard Gaskin wrote:
This is not only cool, but this type of zooming can be  
instructionally

useful:



Anyone here pull off something like that in Rev?


I haven't, but I don't think it would be hard. It's just a
high-resolution image that is continually scaled. I'd put a scrollbar
under the image, scripted to reset the scale of the image object, and
that should do it. If you want smooth scaling, you'd need to  
continually
rescale in a loop, in very small increments, until the target scale  
is

reached.


I'm attracted to the idea that it could be easy, but I think in  
practice

it may be quite harder than it looks.


Pretty easy to do as a simple, medium-res example (but don't set the  
image's resizeQuality to "Best", or it gets really slow):


Try my crude test from the message box:

go stack url "http://asay.byu.edu/testZoom.rev";

Can anyone improve on this? (A low standard, I know. :) )


For starters, it loads really fast so it's gotta be vector objects
rather than a large scaled bitmap image.

And given its size when you're zoomed in all the way, it would almost
certainly exceed Rev's 4095-pixel limit on image size (do I have that
limit correct?).

I think it would require some nifty scaling algorithms, and with Flash
doing this almost automatically and with us needing to do this in
script, I'm having a hard time figuring out how one could do that as
gracefully.


What about taking lots of snapshots of the image at different scales  
and making it into a movie, then just using a slide to scrub through  
the movie? Maybe that's cheating, but you work with what you've got.


Devin


Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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Re: Another "How to do this in a Revlet?" thread

2009-10-30 Thread Ian Wood



On 30 Oct 2009, at 16:33, J. Landman Gay wrote:

I haven't, but I don't think it would be hard. It's just a high- 
resolution image that is continually scaled.


No it isn't - it's all vector graphics, because an image of those  
pixel dimensions probably wouldn't even load in the browser. The JPEG  
format only goes up to 30,000px in either dimension, and this would be  
around 1,000,000,000px...


Something similar would be possible in Rev using either a series of  
images for different zoom levels, or an image file for each object  
plus a bunch of fancy scaling handlers, but the file size would be  
correspondingly larger than the example given.


Ian
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Re: Error installing RevMedia 4.0 DP5

2009-10-30 Thread Yves COPPE



Le 30 oct. 09 à 17:55, J. Landman Gay a écrit :


Yves COPPE wrote:

Le 30 oct. 09 à 00:34, J. Landman Gay a écrit :

Yves COPPE wrote:

Hi list
When I start installing revMedia 4 dp5 and after the unpacking of  
the 5 pkgs, hte installing is cancelled automatically and I get  
such a message :

An error occured installing the product
To inform revolution about this error, please quote error code  
43F.10FC
Please clic "try again" of "send error report" to automatically  
post error information to Revolution


What OS are you running?


Re,
mac OS X Leopard 10.5.8 on an intel Core 2 duo macBook





Re

how can i throw away the files that are loaded to force a new downoad
When I ask to try again, it starts automatically with "unpacking1/5"

I think there could be a problem at the download time, so I'd like to  
re-donwload the files again



Greetings.

Yves COPPE
yvesco...@skynet.be

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Re: Error installing RevMedia 4.0 DP5

2009-10-30 Thread Yves COPPE



Le 30 oct. 09 à 17:55, J. Landman Gay a écrit :


Yves COPPE wrote:

Le 30 oct. 09 à 00:34, J. Landman Gay a écrit :

Yves COPPE wrote:

Hi list
When I start installing revMedia 4 dp5 and after the unpacking of  
the 5 pkgs, hte installing is cancelled automatically and I get  
such a message :

An error occured installing the product
To inform revolution about this error, please quote error code  
43F.10FC
Please clic "try again" of "send error report" to automatically  
post error information to Revolution


What OS are you running?


Re,
mac OS X Leopard 10.5.8 on an intel Core 2 duo macBook


I have the same machine and it installed without any problem. Did  
you use the Easy Install option? Are you running it in an account  
with full permissions (administrator account)?





re,

yes

easy install and administraor accout



Greetings.

Yves COPPE
yvesco...@skynet.be

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Re: Small update to Plugin

2009-10-30 Thread Colin Holgate

Something seems to be wrong with the new revWebInstallerX86.app. It  
shows up in the Dock, but doesn't have any window. As well as the  
revWebInstaller process there is also one called Updater, and mds gets  
used too. The combined CPU load is over 180%, but nothing ever comes  
of it, eventually you have to force quit revWebInstaller. When you do  
that, Updater starts to take about 90% CPU, so you have to use  
Activity Monitor to force quit that.



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Re: Another "How to do this in a Revlet?" thread


Jacque wrote:


Richard Gaskin wrote:
This is not only cool, but this type of zooming can be instructionally 
useful:




Anyone here pull off something like that in Rev?


I haven't, but I don't think it would be hard. It's just a 
high-resolution image that is continually scaled. I'd put a scrollbar 
under the image, scripted to reset the scale of the image object, and 
that should do it. If you want smooth scaling, you'd need to continually 
rescale in a loop, in very small increments, until the target scale is 
reached.


I'm attracted to the idea that it could be easy, but I think in practice 
it may be quite harder than it looks.


For starters, it loads really fast so it's gotta be vector objects 
rather than a large scaled bitmap image.


And given its size when you're zoomed in all the way, it would almost 
certainly exceed Rev's 4095-pixel limit on image size (do I have that 
limit correct?).


I think it would require some nifty scaling algorithms, and with Flash 
doing this almost automatically and with us needing to do this in 
script, I'm having a hard time figuring out how one could do that as 
gracefully.


--
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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta

2009-10-30 Thread Richard Miller


Richard,

Timely question. I'm using a cascading menu/button to give the user the 
option to select a video file which could reside in any of three 
folders. Each folder has one or more subfolders. For example:


Video Group 1
   Animals
  Elephant.mov
  Tiger.mov
   People
  Richard.mov
Video Group 2
   Cars
  Ford.mov
  Chevy.mov
etc...

The advantage of this approach is it takes up very little room on the 
screen (i.e. just one small button), but provides easy access to lots of 
files.


I was about to submit this bug report (this functionality worked two 
days ago, but not now), but I'd like others to test it first. I could 
only test it under XP.


Start with a new stack in Media.

1. Create a popup button. It will come with three lines of data in it.

2. Run it in a browser. Should function normally... meaning, you can 
select one of the three items.


3. Go back and enter this into the message box:

   put return & tab & tab & "choice x" after line 1 of btn 1

4. In the development environment, "choice x" should now appear as a 
sub-choice of the first menu item, and you should be able to select it.


5. Run it in a browser. When I test this now, it is no longer possible 
to select any menu item, let alone "choice x".


Is that what others are finding?

Thanks.
Richard Miller





Richard Gaskin wrote:

Richard Miller wrote:
I've discovered some other significant (for me) change to the runtime 
environment in the past few days. A traditional cascading menu (built 
with the menu builder) which worked fine yesterday during 
runtime... no longer works today. The menu (which I dragged to the 
center of the stack so it functions as a button with cascading 
selections), depresses OK. The list of hierarchical selections show 
up OK. But any attempt to actually make a selection fails.


At last I've found someone else who uses cascade menus!

Cascade menus were originally added as part of the old stack-based 
menu system, which few people use anymore now that we can use the 
textual contents of menu button as menu items without having to build 
a stack for those.


But cascade menus remain very useful for another purpose, as flyout 
menus.  Adobe and many others place such menus at the upper-right of 
their palettes, and they're useful in other contexts as well.


But unfortunately, the behavior of cascade menus differs from others 
in that most menus let you click and release and the menu stays up 
until you either select one of its items or click away from it, but 
cascade menus only appear as long as the mouse is down.


Also, while most menu styles render their menus using OS routines, 
cascade menus draw using the built-in emulated appearances, giving 
them a non-standard look that compounds the non-standard behavior.


There are workarounds for this, but they're not straightforward to 
implement and would certainly throw off the newcomer.


Jacque has noted this in the RQCC, and I've amended her request with 
additional notes:



Richard, what do you use cascade menus for?

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Re: Error installing RevMedia 4.0 DP5


Yves COPPE wrote:


Le 30 oct. 09 à 00:34, J. Landman Gay a écrit :


Yves COPPE wrote:

Hi list
When I start installing revMedia 4 dp5 and after the unpacking of the 
5 pkgs, hte installing is cancelled automatically and I get such a 
message :

An error occured installing the product
To inform revolution about this error, please quote error code 43F.10FC
Please clic "try again" of "send error report" to automatically post 
error information to Revolution


What OS are you running?





Re,

mac OS X Leopard 10.5.8 on an intel Core 2 duo macBook


I have the same machine and it installed without any problem. Did you 
use the Easy Install option? Are you running it in an account with full 
permissions (administrator account)?


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Re: Another "How to do this in a Revlet?" thread


Richard Gaskin wrote:
This is not only cool, but this type of zooming can be instructionally 
useful:




Anyone here pull off something like that in Rev?


I haven't, but I don't think it would be hard. It's just a 
high-resolution image that is continually scaled. I'd put a scrollbar 
under the image, scripted to reset the scale of the image object, and 
that should do it. If you want smooth scaling, you'd need to continually 
rescale in a loop, in very small increments, until the target scale is 
reached.


Of course, I may be all mouth and no follow-through. I didn't actually 
try it. ;)


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Re: AW: Who sends the message?


Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:

Hi Jacqueline,

as far as I see it, the target is always an object, but never another
handler, who has send the message. So Jans answer was what I was looking
for.


Yes, you're right. I thought you were looking for the object, but I see 
now you wanted a handler name.


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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta


Richard Miller wrote:
I've discovered some other significant (for me) change to the runtime 
environment in the past few days. A traditional cascading menu (built 
with the menu builder) which worked fine yesterday during runtime... 
no longer works today. The menu (which I dragged to the center of the 
stack so it functions as a button with cascading selections), depresses 
OK. The list of hierarchical selections show up OK. But any attempt to 
actually make a selection fails.


At last I've found someone else who uses cascade menus!

Cascade menus were originally added as part of the old stack-based menu 
system, which few people use anymore now that we can use the textual 
contents of menu button as menu items without having to build a stack 
for those.


But cascade menus remain very useful for another purpose, as flyout 
menus.  Adobe and many others place such menus at the upper-right of 
their palettes, and they're useful in other contexts as well.


But unfortunately, the behavior of cascade menus differs from others in 
that most menus let you click and release and the menu stays up until 
you either select one of its items or click away from it, but cascade 
menus only appear as long as the mouse is down.


Also, while most menu styles render their menus using OS routines, 
cascade menus draw using the built-in emulated appearances, giving them 
a non-standard look that compounds the non-standard behavior.


There are workarounds for this, but they're not straightforward to 
implement and would certainly throw off the newcomer.


Jacque has noted this in the RQCC, and I've amended her request with 
additional notes:



Richard, what do you use cascade menus for?

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Re: Small update to Plugin

Thank you!
All of my little issues have been resolved and everything works great.

Regards,
David.C.

- Original Message -
From: "Heather Nagey" 
To: "How to use Revolution" 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 10:37:02 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Small update to Plugin

Dear folks,

We have just uploaded a small update to the 4.0 web plugin, fixing the  
following issues:

- revletParams not working fixed
- go stack in window not working fixed
- an issue on windows causing the plugin to crash in IE if a bad 'src'  
attribute is passed to the plugin
- an issue in firefox causing plugin loading to fail with the message  
'unable to process revlet' in some cases
- improved mouse handling in the mozilla (firefox, opera etc.) plugin

We'd appreciate if you could download and test this latest release,  
and report any issues you find here:

http://quality.runrev.com

There is a section under Engine/Build/WebPlugin for these bug reports.

Regards,

Heather

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Re: Small update to Plugin


Thanks a lot for spreading the good news!

Now, i am curious to know the function of
revupdatechecker.exe that i see running
among processes in Windows Task Manager

Alejandro


Heather Nagey wrote:
> 
> We have just uploaded a small update to the 4.0 web plugin,
> [snip]
> 

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Another "How to do this in a Revlet?" thread

This is not only cool, but this type of zooming can be instructionally 
useful:




Anyone here pull off something like that in Rev?

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AW: Who sends the message?

2009-10-30 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB

Hi Jacqueline,

as far as I see it, the target is always an object, but never another
handler, who has send the message. So Jans answer was what I was looking
for.
Thank you
Tiemo

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-
> boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von J. Landman Gay
> Gesendet: Freitag, 30. Oktober 2009 16:32
> An: How to use Revolution
> Betreff: Re: Who sends the message?
> 
> Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > sometimes I would like to know who is sending a message. The case: I
> have
> > some generic custom handlers on book level, which can be called from
> various
> > objects or other handlers. Is there something like the "owner" of an
> object
> > for the event hierarchy, what I can ask for, who is sending the custom
> > message?
> 
> Easier than execution context is just getting "the target". The target
> is the object that started the message, and is exactly what you want.
> 
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Re: Trademark symbol in a label or edit field

2009-10-30 Thread Devin Asay


Charles,

One more option: sometimes it is more reliable for cross-platform apps  
to use html entities:


  copyright symbol: ©

  registered trademark symbol: ®

  trademark symbol: ™

Examples:

  set the htmltext of fld "copyrightNotice" to "©2009"
  set the htmltext of fld "tradmarkNotice" to "Revolution® is  
a trademark of RunRev Ltd."
  set the htmltext of fld "tradmemark2" to "Try Revolution™  
for all your programming needs!"


HTH

Devin

On Oct 29, 2009, at 4:23 PM, Charles Szasz wrote:



Terry,

Thanks! I will try it out windows to see if it shows up correctly!


Terry Judd wrote:


It's numToChar(168) on the Mac and numToChar(174) on Windows if  
that's any

help.

Terry...


On 30/10/09 7:18 AM, "Charles Szasz"  wrote:



Thanks Colin!

I am aware of the shortcut (Option + 2) but I did not know if  
Revolution
would support this in fields on both the Mac and Windows. I had  
checked

Rev's Dictionary and did not find any listing for it.


Colin Holgate-2 wrote:



On Oct 29, 2009, at 4:06 PM, Charles Szasz wrote:



How do you insert the trademark symbol (circle with the letter
inside it) in
a label or edit field in Revolution? I want to cite of a product
with its
trademark.



Usually there's a keyboard shortcut for doing that. On Mac it's
Option-2 () for trademark, Option-r (®) for registered mark,  
Option-g

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Small update to Plugin

2009-10-30 Thread Heather Nagey


Dear folks,

We have just uploaded a small update to the 4.0 web plugin, fixing the  
following issues:


- revletParams not working fixed
- go stack in window not working fixed
- an issue on windows causing the plugin to crash in IE if a bad 'src'  
attribute is passed to the plugin
- an issue in firefox causing plugin loading to fail with the message  
'unable to process revlet' in some cases

- improved mouse handling in the mozilla (firefox, opera etc.) plugin

We'd appreciate if you could download and test this latest release,  
and report any issues you find here:


http://quality.runrev.com

There is a section under Engine/Build/WebPlugin for these bug reports.

Regards,

Heather

Heather Nagey
Customer Services Manager
http://www.runrev.com/
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Re: Who sends the message?


Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:

Hello,

sometimes I would like to know who is sending a message. The case: I have
some generic custom handlers on book level, which can be called from various
objects or other handlers. Is there something like the "owner" of an object
for the event hierarchy, what I can ask for, who is sending the custom
message?


Easier than execution context is just getting "the target". The target 
is the object that started the message, and is exactly what you want.


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Re: Drag/Move Cursor?

Rick Harrison wrote:

> On Oct 29, 2009, at 8:14 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>
>> set the screenMouseLoc to the screenLoc
>
> Thank you for the quick, and accurate response!
>
> It figures that it was the very last item listed when
> I searched for "Mouse".  I didn't expect the word
> "screen" to be a part of it.

Me neither when I was looking for the same thing a while back. :)

It kinda makes sense, though:  the pointer is a global object, and the 
mouseLoc is a translation of those global coordinates into local space, 
so as a translation is can't be set.  The screenMouseLoc being global 
makes it a reasonably sensible way to set the position.

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Re: RevMedia Woes

2009-10-30 Thread James Hurley

Message: 15
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:45:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: capellan 
Subject: Re: RevMedia Woes
To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Message-ID: <26119539.p...@talk.nabble.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Yes, Completely awesome! :D

I noticed that this revlet runs faster too:
http://capellan2000.000space.com/test03.html

Does it means that Runrev made some optimizations
or enhancements specifically oriented to screen redraw?
H, maybe this explain the absence of Palettes and
substacks in their own window...

Just a wild guess.

Alejandro

Alejandro,

I don't know if this is related, but I have found that there is a  
significant increase in speed in going from Rev IDE on Mac OS to the  
revLet see discussion below.

I've been waiting for some clarification from Rev.

Jim Hurley
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 14:54:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: SparkOut 
Subject: Re: Graphic speed comparison between webLets and desktop
stacks
To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
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James Hurley wrote:

On the Mac there has been a longstanding problem in using repeat  
loops
to control the movement of screen objects. It is necessary to  
insert a
forced screen refresh every time through the loop on the desktop.  
That

problem goes away on the Web. A screen refresh is no longer needed.

The stack I wrote is very busy, lots of factors to vary in order to
compare all the possibilities. If you have the courage you  can
compare these things for yourself  on the desktop using the stack:

  go url "http://jamesphurley.on-rev.com/OnRevGraphicTimer.rev";

And on the Web, go to

   http://jamesphurley.on-rev.com/OnRevTimer/test.html

The stack is a little busy. Jim Hurley

(P.S. On the third card of the stack above I added is a simulation  
of

planetary motion. The speed is fine on the desktop and the motion is
very smooth,  but it is WAY too speedy on the Web. I didn't include
any accommodation for the speed change on the Web. A good example of
the need to do so.

For comparison, I tried some examples on Windows (XP, Rev Enterprise
4.0-dp-4, Internet Explorer 8) and got identical* results on the  
desktop

stack as with the revlet.
*OK, I got the range 727, 728 or 729 milliseconds consistently when  
choosing

90 points in the circle and 7 milliseconds on the delay slider.
--
And I meant to say, the blue planet spinning round the sun was high  
speed to
the point of stroboscopic inability to see where it was at any  
given point -

both on the web revlet and the desktop stack.
--

SparkOut,

Thanks for the feedback. I knew that the Rev took a hit on the Mac  
in these kinds of applications, but I didn't realize it was this bad.

That make the PC roughly twice as fast as the Mac. Makes it  
difficult to develop cross platform.

Jim Hurley***

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[ANN] tRev Feature Friday - Save from Browser & Color Pref

2009-10-30 Thread Jerry Daniels


tRev Fans,

Here's what's new this week:

- New Column Button for Object Browser: Save
- New universal shortcut for Object Browser: s
- Visual feedback when using OB's shortcuts
- Better focus on tRev after dialogs & switching
- New preference: colorization (or not)
- Prefs re-org'd slightly with a group for color
- Faster response to menu item shortcuts

Here's a link to the video:

http://reveditor.com/feature-friday-save-from-browser-and-color-pr

Best,

Jerry Daniels
You can buy tRev now (I won't stop you):
http://runrev.com/products/related-software/trev-editor/

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Re: How do I save changes to fields and scripts in Standalone

2009-10-30 Thread DunbarX

Jacque.

It all comes back to me. When I made my very first standalone, it would not 
work unless I used that option to "move substacks into individual 
stackfiles". That is where I retained, erroneously, the idea that they could 
reside 
there, because that is where I originally authored them.

As for development, it seems more comfortable to me to create all the 
stacks in one file, and then move them with the standalone settings. But that 
is 
a matter of style.

Craig

In a message dated 10/29/09 7:32:07 PM, jac...@hyperactivesw.com writes:

> 
> Like Richard, I never use the Standalone Builder option that decouples
> substacks. I create independent stacks from the beginning when I know my
> app will have to save data to them.
> 

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Re: RevMedia Question: Securing the revlet?


Hello Malte,

Thank you so much for a very clear explanation and example. That's awesome!
Best regards,
David C.

Malte Pfaff-Brill wrote:

Hi David,

this script executes a bit of javascript in the browser. The result 
will then contain the URL your revLet has been launched from and you 
can react accordingly. so you might want to do this on openstack for 
example


on openStack
local tURL
do "document.location.href;" in browser
put the result into tURL
if tURL <> "path/you/would/expect.html" then
answer "You are using my revlet from an unknown location. Please use 
it from my site instead"

-- do a redirect here if you wish or quit
end if
end openStack

Hope that sheds some light.

All the best,

Malte
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Re: RevMedia Question: Securing the revlet?

2009-10-30 Thread Malte Pfaff-Brill


Hi David,

this script executes a bit of javascript in the browser. The result  
will then contain the URL your revLet has been launched from and you  
can react accordingly. so you might want to do this on openstack for  
example


on openStack
local tURL
do "document.location.href;" in browser
put the result into tURL
if tURL <> "path/you/would/expect.html" then
answer "You are using my revlet from an unknown location. Please use  
it from my site instead"

-- do a redirect here if you wish or quit
end if
end openStack

Hope that sheds some light.

All the best,

Malte
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Re: RevMedia Question: Securing the revlet?


Thank you sir,
I'm not sure I understand how or where that should be incorporated in 
the stack. Can you shed some additional light on what it actually does 
and how I should use it? (I'm not all that well versed in the language yet)


Regards,
David C.

Malte Pfaff-Brill wrote:

Andre gave me a pointer (thanks mate!)

on mouseUp pMouseBtnNo
do "document.location.href;" in browser
answer the result
end mouseUp

Hope that helps,

Malte
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Re: RevMedia Question: Securing the revlet?

2009-10-30 Thread Malte Pfaff-Brill


Andre gave me a pointer (thanks mate!)

on mouseUp pMouseBtnNo
do "document.location.href;" in browser
answer the result
end mouseUp

Hope that helps,

Malte
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Re: RevMedia Woes

>The team is polishing the plugin and looking for bugs right now, so it
>would be good to tell them about it. Those are unusual symptoms. Also
>offer to send a copy of your stack so they can try it, I get the feeling
>there might be something in it that's causing the problem.



>I'm sure they'd want to hear about this.

Already a done deal.

Thanks for the link, Jacque... I guess I managed to overlook it at the site.

Regards,
David
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Re: How do I check which field has the focus on / is active?

2009-10-30 Thread Klaus Major


Hi William,


Hi Jan & Klaus,

None of your answers works for me :-)


Aha, but nevertheless you should change your script(s) to using "short  
name of ..." ;-)



Must be something else then that is bugging me.
Could be the dentist! Got to go there within the hour because of an
awful toothache.


Ouch! Good luck!


to be continued

Greetings,

William


Best

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Re: How do I check which field has the focus on / is active?

2009-10-30 Thread William de Smet

Hi Jan & Klaus,

None of your answers works for me :-)
Must be something else then that is bugging me.
Could be the dentist! Got to go there within the hour because of an
awful toothache.

to be continued

Greetings,

William

2009/10/30 Klaus Major :
> Hi William,
>
>> Hi there all,
>>
>> How do I check which has the focus on / is the active one?
>> When I use: 'answer the selectedField' it shows me the correct field
>> but when I put the next code into a button it doesn't work anymore:
>> --
>> on mouseUp
>> put the name of the selectedField into tData
>>
>> if tData = "number1"
>> then send mouseup to btn "check"
>> ...
>> end mouseUp
>
> ...
> put the name of the selectedField into tData
> ...
>
> If you look at the content of the variable "tDate" you will see something
> like this:
> FIELD "Name of field here..."
> !!!
>
> So if you change the line to:
> ...
> put the SHORT name of the selectedField into tData
> ...
> your script will run as exspected :-)
>
>> --
>> Thanks!
>> Greetings, William
>
> Best
>
> Klaus
>
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> http://www.major-k.de
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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta

--- On Fri, 10/30/09, Richard Miller  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jan,
> 
> Yes, this was what I originally expected. But it's not
> working as of yet during runtime... only in the development
> environment. Will this be implemented shortly (prior to
> launch) so that it works the same during runtime? What if
> the two stacks are sized differently? What will happen
> then?
> 
> It would be nice to have answers to these now so that
> developers like myself can make adjustments based on fairly
> large items like this.
> 
> I've discovered some other significant (for me) change to
> the runtime environment in the past few days. A traditional
> cascading menu (built with the menu builder) which
> worked fine yesterday during runtime... no longer works
> today. The menu (which I dragged to the center of the stack
> so it functions as a button with cascading selections),
> depresses OK. The list of hierarchical selections show up
> OK. But any attempt to actually make a selection fails.
> 
> Obviously, they are making substantial changes to the
> runtime environment on a daily basis. This makes development
> very difficult.  I can work around much of this and
> focus on other items, but it's the "not knowing what we'll
> end up with by 11/11" that makes all of this stressful, if
> not impossible. I actually don't think they know either. It
> seems to be very much a day-by-day situation. On the other
> hand, I fully appreciate the enormity of the challenge they
> face.
> 
> Richard
> 

Hi Richard,

Indeed, [go stack "OtherStack" in the window of this stack] doesn't work inside 
a revlet yet - and I stress the word 'yet' as the KnownIssues page states it 
will be fixed shortly, which (to me) means they want it fixed before release.

The whole Rev 4.0 project is obviously a mammoth task for the engineers, and 
the browser plug-in is indubitably gobbling up the most time. A little more 
clarity about what exactly is in and what is out in the first release, would be 
nice. But at this point, I'd prefer that we all enter our reports into the 
Quality Center, and let the engineers focus on the fixes.

Would it be great if our revlets were on par with Java applets from day one? 
Sure, but the Java browser plug-in has been refined over the past 
decade-and-a-half. And how long has Flash been out in the wild? What to think 
of Microsoft Silverlight and its large team of engineers?

I don't expect the first version of our revlets to have everything those 
behemoths have. But I do know they'll get there eventually - and what's most 
important, I'll be able to deliver working revlets in a fraction of the time 
I'd spend building them with the other platforms I've mentioned.

Rev in the browsr is like Rev on the desktop: you'll always find a language and 
framework that does more, but the strength of revTalk lies in productivity.

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Re: How do I check which field has the focus on / is active?

2009-10-30 Thread Klaus Major


Hi William,


Hi there all,

How do I check which has the focus on / is the active one?
When I use: 'answer the selectedField' it shows me the correct field
but when I put the next code into a button it doesn't work anymore:
--
on mouseUp
put the name of the selectedField into tData

if tData = "number1"
then send mouseup to btn "check"
...
end mouseUp


...
put the name of the selectedField into tData
...

If you look at the content of the variable "tDate" you will see  
something like this:

FIELD "Name of field here..."
!!!

So if you change the line to:
...
put the SHORT name of the selectedField into tData
...
your script will run as exspected :-)


--
Thanks!
Greetings, William


Best

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Re: RevMedia Question: Securing the revlet?

2009-10-30 Thread Mark Schonewille


William,

I'll post a php example in a while. I'm on it.

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On 30 okt 2009, at 14:19, William de Smet wrote:


Hi Mark,

Can you give an example of how to do this?
I read your answer in Malte's question but really don't know how to  
use this.

I really want to avoid that any revlet will be distributed in the way
David describes.

Greetings,

William



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AW: Who sends the message?

2009-10-30 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB

Wow, that was fast! Never had the answer simultaneous with my question in
the inbox :)
Thank you
Tiemo

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> Gesendet: Freitag, 30. Oktober 2009 14:16
> An: How to use Revolution
> Betreff: Re: Who sends the message?
> 
> --- On Fri, 10/30/09, Tiemo Hollmann TB  wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > sometimes I would like to know who is sending a message.
> > The case: I have
> > some generic custom handlers on book level, which can be
> > called from various
> > objects or other handlers. Is there something like the
> > "owner" of an object
> > for the event hierarchy, what I can ask for, who is sending
> > the custom
> > message?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Tiemo
> >
> 
> Check the 'executionContexts' local property.
> 
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Re: RevMedia Question: Securing the revlet?

2009-10-30 Thread William de Smet

Hi Mark,

Can you give an example of how to do this?
I read your answer in Malte's question but really don't know how to use this.
I really want to avoid that any revlet will be distributed in the way
David describes.

Greetings,

William

2009/10/30 Mark Schonewille :
> Hi David,
>
> You can't prevent people from downloading the revlet, but you can prevent
> them from using it. Yesterday, there was a question by Malte about including
> the current url in the HTML code in such a way that it can be checked by the
> revlet. You might want to look that up. If you use PHP or iRev, you can
> create an encrypted parameter based on the date and the location and decrypt
> this parameter in the revlet. That should be quite effective.
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Mark Schonewille
>
> Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
> Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
>
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> http://flowproject.economy-x-talk.com
>
> On 30 okt 2009, at 13:56, David Coker wrote:
>
>> Hello folks,
>> This has probably been asked before but I was unable to find a
>> reference to it...
>>
>> Is there (or will there be) any way to secure a revlet from being
>> downloaded to the end user's hard drive?
>>
>> e.g. File>Save As>Web Page Complete
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> David Coker
>
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Re: How do I check which field has the focus on / is active?

--- On Fri, 10/30/09, William de Smet  wrote:
> 
> Hi there all,
> 
> How do I check which has the focus on / is the active one?
> When I use: 'answer the selectedField' it shows me the
> correct field
> but when I put the next code into a button it doesn't work
> anymore:
> --
> on mouseUp
> put the name of the selectedField into tData
> 
> if tData = "number1"
> then send mouseup to btn "check"
> 
>  if tData = "number3"
> then send mouseup to btn "sum1"
> 
>  if tData = "number6"
> then send mouseup to btn "sum2"
> 
>  if tData = "number9"
> then send mouseup to btn "sum3"
> 
> if tData = "number12"
> then send mouseup to btn "sum4"
> 
> if tData = "number15"
> then send mouseup to btn "sum5"
> end mouseUp
> 
> --
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Greetings, William
> 

If this is not on Mac, then your button is probably stealing the focus from the 
field when you click it. Try setting the 'traversalOn' of the button to false.

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Re: Who sends the message?

--- On Fri, 10/30/09, Tiemo Hollmann TB  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> sometimes I would like to know who is sending a message.
> The case: I have
> some generic custom handlers on book level, which can be
> called from various
> objects or other handlers. Is there something like the
> "owner" of an object
> for the event hierarchy, what I can ask for, who is sending
> the custom
> message?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Tiemo
> 

Check the 'executionContexts' local property.

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How do I check which field has the focus on / is active?

2009-10-30 Thread William de Smet

Hi there all,

How do I check which has the focus on / is the active one?
When I use: 'answer the selectedField' it shows me the correct field
but when I put the next code into a button it doesn't work anymore:
--
on mouseUp
put the name of the selectedField into tData

if tData = "number1"
then send mouseup to btn "check"

 if tData = "number3"
then send mouseup to btn "sum1"

 if tData = "number6"
then send mouseup to btn "sum2"

 if tData = "number9"
then send mouseup to btn "sum3"

if tData = "number12"
then send mouseup to btn "sum4"

if tData = "number15"
then send mouseup to btn "sum5"
end mouseUp

--

Thanks!

Greetings, William
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Who sends the message?

2009-10-30 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB

Hello,

sometimes I would like to know who is sending a message. The case: I have
some generic custom handlers on book level, which can be called from various
objects or other handlers. Is there something like the "owner" of an object
for the event hierarchy, what I can ask for, who is sending the custom
message?

Thanks

Tiemo

 

 

 

 

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Re: RevMedia Question: Securing the revlet?

2009-10-30 Thread Mark Schonewille


Hi David,

You can't prevent people from downloading the revlet, but you can  
prevent them from using it. Yesterday, there was a question by Malte  
about including the current url in the HTML code in such a way that it  
can be checked by the revlet. You might want to look that up. If you  
use PHP or iRev, you can create an encrypted parameter based on the  
date and the location and decrypt this parameter in the revlet. That  
should be quite effective.


--
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On 30 okt 2009, at 13:56, David Coker wrote:


Hello folks,
This has probably been asked before but I was unable to find a
reference to it...

Is there (or will there be) any way to secure a revlet from being
downloaded to the end user's hard drive?

e.g. File>Save As>Web Page Complete


Best regards,
David Coker



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RevMedia Question: Securing the revlet?

Hello folks,
This has probably been asked before but I was unable to find a
reference to it...

Is there (or will there be) any way to secure a revlet from being
downloaded to the end user's hard drive?

e.g. File>Save As>Web Page Complete


Best regards,
David Coker
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[ANN]My stuff is moving...

2009-10-30 Thread Mark Smith

I've moved my revolution download page from dreamhost to on-rev:  
http://marksmith.on-rev.com/revstuff/index.html


The Dreamhost page will stay up for a while, but I don't know how long.

Best,

Mark Smith
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Non-Latin Web Addresses Coming Soon

2009-10-30 Thread Michael Kann

>From the NY Times online this morning:

SEOUL — By the middle of next year, Internet surfers will be allowed to use Web 
addresses written completely in Chinese, Arabic, Korean and other non-Latin 
alphabets, the organization overseeing Internet domain names announced on 
Friday in a decision that could make the Web more accessible.

In a move billed as one of the biggest changes in the Web’s four-decade 
history, the board of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers — 
or ICANN — voted Friday to allow such scripts in Internet addresses during its 
annual meeting, held in Seoul.

- snip 

This change only affects domain names — anything that comes after the dot, such 
as .com, .cn or .jp. Until now, they could only be in 37 characters — 26 Latin 
letters, 10 digits or a dash. But starting next year, domain names can be the 
characters of any language.

The decision, reached after years of testing and debate, clears the way for 
ICANN to begin accepting applications for non-Latin domain names on Nov. 16. 
People will start seeing them in use around mid-2010, particularly in Arabic, 
Chinese and other scripts in which demand for the new “internationalized” 
domain name system has been among the highest, ICANN officials say.

Initially, the new naming system will only affect Web addresses with “country 
codes,” the designators at the end of an address name, such as .kr (for Korea) 
or .ru (for Russia). But eventually, it will be expanded to all types of 
Internet address names, ICANN said.

- snip 

Full article here: 

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/31/technology/31net.html?_r=1&hp

-- only a few more fluff paragraphs
-- registration required

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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta

2009-10-30 Thread Richmond Mathewson


Richard Miller wrote:

Hi Jan,

Yes, this was what I originally expected. But it's not working as of 
yet during runtime... only in the development environment. Will this 
be implemented shortly (prior to launch) so that it works the same 
during runtime? What if the two stacks are sized differently? What 
will happen then?


It would be nice to have answers to these now so that developers like 
myself can make adjustments based on fairly large items like this.

Quite!


I've discovered some other significant (for me) change to the runtime 
environment in the past few days. A traditional cascading menu (built 
with the menu builder) which worked fine yesterday during 
runtime... no longer works today. The menu (which I dragged to the 
center of the stack so it functions as a button with cascading 
selections), depresses OK. The list of hierarchical selections show up 
OK. But any attempt to actually make a selection fails.


Obviously, they are making substantial changes to the runtime 
environment on a daily basis. This makes development very difficult.  
I can work around much of this and focus on other items, but it's the 
"not knowing what we'll end up with by 11/11" 

sleepless nights
that makes all of this stressful, 

acidosis

if not impossible.

road rage
I actually don't think they know either. It seems to be very much a 
day-by-day situation. 

I am thinking about a 2 weeks holiday from programming.
On the other hand, I fully appreciate the enormity of the challenge 
they face.
So do I, but I don't particularly like coming across 'surprises' - I 
honestly think

their PR needs a spot of overhauling.


Richard



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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta

2009-10-30 Thread Richard Miller


Hi Jan,

Yes, this was what I originally expected. But it's not working as of yet 
during runtime... only in the development environment. Will this be 
implemented shortly (prior to launch) so that it works the same during 
runtime? What if the two stacks are sized differently? What will happen 
then?


It would be nice to have answers to these now so that developers like 
myself can make adjustments based on fairly large items like this.


I've discovered some other significant (for me) change to the runtime 
environment in the past few days. A traditional cascading menu (built 
with the menu builder) which worked fine yesterday during runtime... 
no longer works today. The menu (which I dragged to the center of the 
stack so it functions as a button with cascading selections), depresses 
OK. The list of hierarchical selections show up OK. But any attempt to 
actually make a selection fails.


Obviously, they are making substantial changes to the runtime 
environment on a daily basis. This makes development very difficult.  I 
can work around much of this and focus on other items, but it's the "not 
knowing what we'll end up with by 11/11" that makes all of this 
stressful, if not impossible. I actually don't think they know either. 
It seems to be very much a day-by-day situation. On the other hand, I 
fully appreciate the enormity of the challenge they face.


Richard




Jan Schenkel wrote:

--- On Thu, 10/29/09, Richard Miller  wrote:
  

Richard (or anyone else),

In the "known issues" section 
(http://revmedia.runrev.com/frequently-asked-questions/known-issues/)
covering Revmedia, it is stated that "go in window of stack"
will be fixed shortly. What do you interpret this
functionality to mean? It obviously doesn't relate to "go to
card x", since that works fine now.

Thanks.
Richard Miller




Hi Richard,

Using 'go stack "OtherStack" in the window of this stack" you can go to another 
stack without leaving the current window - it's as if the target stack window opens in the 
same rectangle as the original stack and then the original stack window closes, but without 
the actual opening and closing of windows.

Just give it a try:
- create a new stack "MyMain"
- drop in a button "Go sub" with script
on mouseUp
  go stack "MySub" in the window of this stack
end mouseUp
- create a new substack "MySub"
- drop in a button "Go main" with script
on mouseUp
  go stack "MyMain" in the window of this stack
end mouseUp

Now play around with it, and you'll see that the same window remains open and 
you're just hopping back and forth seamlessly between the mainstack and 
substack.

To me, this sounds like the best interim solution for revlets' inability to 
open new windows for substacks - and it certainly fits in with the AJAX 
paradigm of modifying the current page rather than loading a whole new page.

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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta