Re: Error installing RevMedia 4.0 DP5

2009-10-31 Thread Yves COPPE


Le 30 oct. 09 à 18:33, David Coker a écrit :

Hello Yves,
I ran into exactly the same trouble the other evening when trying to  
do the update on my Vista machine. Couldn't find an uninstaller  
directly through the O/S, but did find one after digging around in  
the application folder (my system):


C:\Program Files\Revolution Media 4.0.0\Installation Data\

I ran the uninstaller, then re-installed the new version and all is  
well.


Best regards,



Hi David

Thank you very much, it works now !



Greetings.

Yves COPPE
yvesco...@skynet.be

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[OT] WOFF fonts

2009-10-31 Thread Richmond Mathewson

Just downloaded a beta version of Firefox and came across this:

http://hacks.mozilla.org/2009/10/woff/

Supposedly (?!?!) they are smaller (i.e. less lag time for download)
and rather easier to track to their origins.

I wonder about whether these will work with RunRev and revlets?
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Re: Another How to do this in a Revlet? thread

2009-10-31 Thread Jim Ault


On Oct 30, 2009, at 8:10 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:


http://www.capellan2000.000space.com/graphics_transformations_01.zip


I wish I go see it, but when I click it I wind up here:
http://swiftphp.com/notify/2.php
--  
Richard



My browser (Firefox/3.5.3 GTB6 in OSX 10.5 )  initiates and  
successfully downloads the file  'graphics_transformations_01.zip'


The stack shows many of the complex operations for transforming  
graphics.
The button scripts are very well written to show the meaning of  
variables and the operations used.


There is a metacard version and a rev version and both are dated 2003.
Very cool demonstration.

Thanks for showing this, Alejandro.
I am sure a friend of mine will love seeing this and do some fancy  
scripting.


Jim Ault
Las Vegas

On Oct 30, 2009, at 8:10 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:


Alejandro wrote:


Actually, these are plain and simple vector graphics, organized
like concentric rings that you could show and hide, depending
of zoom level.


I figured they were vector, but the show/hide part I hadn't thought  
of.   Makes good sense, though, keeps the number of things on screen  
to a minimum.


Nice idea, rather like the famous ZoomQuilt:
http://www.zoomquilt.org/


This zoom slider is actually scaling all graphics from
the center. Adobe Flash do not scale all vector graphics
at the same time. This is an illusion. But a really fast one.
I had published an stack that uses matrices to scale vector
graphics. Scaling the points of vector graphics in a loop or
driven by a scale slider should be no problem. ;-)
http://www.capellan2000.000space.com/graphics_transformations_01.zip


I wish I go see it, but when I click it I wind up here:
http://swiftphp.com/notify/2.php
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[Q] Windows compiled applications and the Task Bar

2009-10-31 Thread Shao Sean
I only have access to Mac OS X so am not able to test this myself, but  
do Windows compiled Rev applications show all their open windows in  
the task bar or just the parent window?

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Re: [Q] Windows compiled applications and the Task Bar

2009-10-31 Thread runrev260805
Hi,

good question. Although i am working only on windows, i never payed attention 
to this.
I just tested here now with 4.0 DP 5. I created a stack with 2 substacks.
As soon as the substacks are opened they are shown in the taskbar.
If i close them, they are hidden again.

HTH,

Matthias


 Original Message 
Subject: [Q] Windows compiled applications and the Task Bar (31-Okt-2009 13:10)
From:Shao Sean shaos...@wehostmacs.com
To:  runrev260...@m-r-d.de

 I only have access to Mac OS X so am not able to test this myself, but  
 do Windows compiled Rev applications show all their open windows in  
 the task bar or just the parent window?
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Re: [Q] Windows compiled applications and the Task Bar

2009-10-31 Thread Shao Sean

Thank you for that information..
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RE: [Q] Windows compiled applications and the Task Bar

2009-10-31 Thread Jim Bufalini
XP shows all open windows. Vista shows only the main application window.

 -Original Message-
 From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-
 boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Shao Sean
 Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 2:07 AM
 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
 Subject: [Q] Windows compiled applications and the Task Bar
 
 I only have access to Mac OS X so am not able to test this myself, but
 do Windows compiled Rev applications show all their open windows in
 the task bar or just the parent window?
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RE: [Q] Windows compiled applications and the Task Bar

2009-10-31 Thread Jim Bufalini
I apologize, I answered this too quickly. I read task bar as task manager.
The task bar shows all open windows in both XP and Vista. It's the task
manager that differs between XP and Vista.

Aloha from Hawaii,

Jim Bufalini

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 boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Shao Sean
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 Subject: [Q] Windows compiled applications and the Task Bar
 
 I only have access to Mac OS X so am not able to test this myself, but
 do Windows compiled Rev applications show all their open windows in
 the task bar or just the parent window?
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Re: [Q] Windows compiled applications and the Task Bar

2009-10-31 Thread Jim Ault

On Oct 31, 2009, at 5:07 AM, Shao Sean wrote:

I only have access to Mac OS X so am not able to test this myself,  
but do Windows compiled Rev applications show all their open windows  
in the task bar or just the parent window?



One extra note that is important:
I built single stack using windowshape + drag-drop by clicking  
anywhere + built my own close box

= result is that there was no entry in the task bar

In Rev 3.5 on XP did the following

on openstack
   --set the windowshape to id 3434
end openstack

There is a title bar and a window in the task bar.
Now change the script and run it from the message box

on openstack
   set the windowshape to id 3434
end openstack

The title bar disappears and the same for the task bar.

Hope this helps.

Jim Ault
Las Vegas
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RE: [Q] Windows compiled applications and the Task Bar

2009-10-31 Thread Jim Bufalini
Jim A is correct. It all has to do with the decorations property. By setting
the windowshape, he is removing the title bar and decorations of the window.

Aloha from Hawaii,

Jim Bufalini

 -Original Message-
 From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-
 boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Jim Ault
 Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 2:51 AM
 To: How to use Revolution
 Subject: Re: [Q] Windows compiled applications and the Task Bar
 
 On Oct 31, 2009, at 5:07 AM, Shao Sean wrote:
 
  I only have access to Mac OS X so am not able to test this myself,
  but do Windows compiled Rev applications show all their open windows
  in the task bar or just the parent window?
 
 
 One extra note that is important:
 I built single stack using windowshape + drag-drop by clicking
 anywhere + built my own close box
 = result is that there was no entry in the task bar
 
 In Rev 3.5 on XP did the following
 
 on openstack
 --set the windowshape to id 3434
 end openstack
 
 There is a title bar and a window in the task bar.
 Now change the script and run it from the message box
 
 on openstack
 set the windowshape to id 3434
 end openstack
 
 The title bar disappears and the same for the task bar.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 Jim Ault
 Las Vegas
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Goofy Tip #58

2009-10-31 Thread Richmond Mathewson

Somebody told me, off-list that the 'blob' produced by
Option-8 on a Mac would show up as a Japanese Yen
sign on a machine running Windows

[this may be an abstruse joke with something to do
with Bill Gates]

So, I made a stack with a field containing the
Option-8 blob on my Mac; then 'pumped'
it across to my P4 Ubuntu and my headless P3
Windows XP and got:

1. A boring square on Ubuntu

and

2. A thick vertical line on Windows XP

so I am definitely going to stop using the 'blob'
[pity that, really, I rather like it]
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Goofy Tip #59

2009-10-31 Thread Richmond Mathewson

Put this in a card script:

on openCard
  set the title of stack XYZ to the short name of this card
end openCard

where XYZ is the name of your stack,
to have the name of the card appear in the title bar of the stack.
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Re: Goofy Tip #58

2009-10-31 Thread Jim Ault

This depends on the font selected.
Not all Mac fonts have this bullet symbol, just as not all Windows  
fonts have the yen symbol.


Look for the bullet symbols in other fonts (small, large, square,  
etc ) and then use numtochar() to produce the one that is closest to  
your goal.  On the Mac, you will notice that the bullet is a different  
size in many of the fonts.


Jim Ault
Las Vegas

On Oct 31, 2009, at 7:00 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:


Somebody told me, off-list that the 'blob' produced by
Option-8 on a Mac would show up as a Japanese Yen
sign on a machine running Windows

[this may be an abstruse joke with something to do
with Bill Gates]

So, I made a stack with a field containing the
Option-8 blob on my Mac; then 'pumped'
it across to my P4 Ubuntu and my headless P3
Windows XP and got:

1. A boring square on Ubuntu

and

2. A thick vertical line on Windows XP

so I am definitely going to stop using the 'blob'
[pity that, really, I rather like it]


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Re: Goofy Tip #58

2009-10-31 Thread Richmond Mathewson

Jim Ault wrote:

This depends on the font selected.
Not all Mac fonts have this bullet symbol, just as not all Windows 
fonts have the yen symbol.


Look for the bullet symbols in other fonts (small, large, square, etc 
) and then use numtochar() to produce the one that is closest to your 
goal.  On the Mac, you will notice that the bullet is a different size 
in many of the fonts.



Thank you very much for your advice; however, I am developing something that
will run cross-platform both as a free-standing program and as a revlet.
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Re: Goofy Tip #58

2009-10-31 Thread Shao Sean

Use Unicode?

http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2022/index.htm
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Re: Goofy Tip #58

2009-10-31 Thread Richmond Mathewson

Shao Sean wrote:

Use Unicode?

http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2022/index.htm
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And presume that everybody has a unicode font on their system that 
actually contains the
full compliment of glyphs . . .  a bit risky in my experience; 
especially as I was using the blob

as a part of a window title.
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Re: Another How to do this in a Revlet? thread

2009-10-31 Thread Richard Gaskin

Jim Ault wrote:


On Oct 30, 2009, at 8:10 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:


http://www.capellan2000.000space.com/graphics_transformations_01.zip


I wish I go see it, but when I click it I wind up here:
http://swiftphp.com/notify/2.php


My browser (Firefox/3.5.3 GTB6 in OSX 10.5 )  initiates and  
successfully downloads the file  'graphics_transformations_01.zip'


Ultra-weird:  in Safari it downloads the file correctly, but in Firefox 
3.5.3 on OS X 10.5.8 it went to the URL I noted.


So I updated FF to v3.5.4, and after doing so it warned me that I needed 
to also update Flash Player, so I did.  Then I updated the five FF 
extensions I normally run with, then disabled all of them, restarted FF, 
and it still brings me to that other URL.


If it were forwarding me to some spam site I might suspect a virus, but 
the site it goes to is rather innocuous, so I'm not so sure.  Also, the 
behavior persists even after updating FF and disabling extensions, so 
I'm disinclined to think it's a modified FF or FF prefs/settings issue.


Still, since it works in Safari obviously this issue is specific to 
something in my FF setup.  But what?


Anyone else here see this behavior?

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Re: [Q] Windows compiled applications and the Task Bar

2009-10-31 Thread J. Landman Gay

Shao Sean wrote:
I only have access to Mac OS X so am not able to test this myself, but 
do Windows compiled Rev applications show all their open windows in the 
task bar or just the parent window?


All toplevel windows are there. Windows with any other style are not. So 
if you want a normal-looking window that doesn't show up in the task 
bar, set it to modeless.


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Re: [Q] Windows compiled applications and the Task Bar

2009-10-31 Thread Richard Gaskin

Shao Sean wrote:
I only have access to Mac OS X so am not able to test this myself, but  
do Windows compiled Rev applications show all their open windows in  
the task bar or just the parent window?


Only those which are visible and toplevel.  Palettes aren't shown there, 
nor are windows which are open but have their visible set to false.


This is handy in at least one app I'm working on, where I wanted to 
provide the ability to collapse any single window to the Task Bar but if 
the user collapses the main window I want only the main window in the 
Task Bar.  But trapping it iconifyStack message in the main window and 
using that to hide all of the secondary windows I was able to get what I 
want.  This is pretty much what the Rev IDE does to, and helps keep the 
Task Bar somewhat tidy.


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go first marked card command

2009-10-31 Thread charles61

I am using Rev Studio (4.0.0-DP-4-build 910) for Mac. There are 31 cards in
my project. I have a series of checkboxes,. Each had code to similar to
this:

on mouseUp
   if hilite of button check1 = true
   then
  mark card AAA
  mark card AAA2
  mark card AAA3
  mark card AAA4
  mark card AAA5
   else
  unmark card AAA
  unmark card AAA2
  unmark card AAA3
  unmark card AAA4
  unmark card AAA5
   end if
end mouseUp

on mouseUp
   if hilite of button check2 = true
   then
  mark card BBB
  mark card BBB2
  mark card BBB3
  mark card BBB4
  mark card BBB5
   else
  unmark card BBB
  unmark card BBB2
  unmark card BBB3
  unmark card BBB4
  unmark card BBB5
   end if
end mouseUp

There are 11 checkboxes. I have a navigation button at the bottom of the
card with the following code:

on mouseUp
   go first marked card
end mouseUp

When I check button check2 and click on the navigation button, it takes me
to card AAA. When I first wrote the code a few days ago, the code worked
correctly. I checked the Property Inspector for card AAA in the
Application Browser and it indicated that the card was not marked!  However,
when I use the  Card Inspector it showed that card AAA was indeed marked!

So, I have two questions:

1. Why doesn't the Property Inspector in the Application Browser show card
AAA as being marked?

2. The checkbox for button check1 was NOT checked while in the run mode.
So, how did card AAA get checked? 
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Re: Another How to do this in a Revlet? thread

2009-10-31 Thread stephen barncard
I  have seen instances where the user ISP somehow can hihack some html
errors and take one's browser to another site. This happened recently with
my Comcast account. They recently patched my account to a 'Network Helper'
panel without asking or notifying, and every 'page not found' error sent me
to a 'friendly' comcast erro page instead of my own (including ON-Rev's
helpful error messages).  I had to 'sign in' to their stupid website, do
some research, and finally found a control panel to turn off.

Never underestimate the reach of your ISP.  I hate Comcast, but nobody else
offers the kind of speed they do in my part of town for now.   We'll see all
kinds of dirty tricks as the cable companies want you to have access to the
net, but get not all your TV through the net. Expect content filtering in
the future as the web becomes the new TV. These Comcast jokers want me to
subscribe to Basic Cable for only $5 more/month, yeah right, and a two
year contract. No thanks to TV and the contract.

Waiting for faster DSL or Fiber
-
Stephen Barncard
San Francisco
http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev


2009/10/31 Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com

 Jim Ault wrote:

  On Oct 30, 2009, at 8:10 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

  http://www.capellan2000.000space.com/graphics_transformations_01.zip


 I wish I go see it, but when I click it I wind up here:
 http://swiftphp.com/notify/2.php


 My browser (Firefox/3.5.3 GTB6 in OSX 10.5 )  initiates and  successfully
 downloads the file  'graphics_transformations_01.zip'


 Ultra-weird:  in Safari it downloads the file correctly, but in Firefox
 3.5.3 on OS X 10.5.8 it went to the URL I noted.

 So I updated FF to v3.5.4, and after doing so it warned me that I needed to
 also update Flash Player, so I did.  Then I updated the five FF extensions I
 normally run with, then disabled all of them, restarted FF, and it still
 brings me to that other URL.

 If it were forwarding me to some spam site I might suspect a virus, but the
 site it goes to is rather innocuous, so I'm not so sure.  Also, the behavior
 persists even after updating FF and disabling extensions, so I'm disinclined
 to think it's a modified FF or FF prefs/settings issue.

 Still, since it works in Safari obviously this issue is specific to
 something in my FF setup.  But what?

 Anyone else here see this behavior?


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Re: go first marked card command

2009-10-31 Thread Mark Schonewille

Dear charles61,

1) The application browser doesn't update itself after you make a  
change. It continues to display the old state of the ptoperties of  
objects. For this reason, I very rarely use the application browser  
and created my own little navigation panel, from which I can select  
any object after which I look at the object's property inspector.


2) I don't know. I think we need more information to give an answer.  
You must have a script somewhere, that marks card AAA or another  
script that changes the hilite of the checkbox. Do you set the hilite  
of multiple checkboxes to true? Do you have any similar scripts that  
or not in those 11 checkboxes?


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On 31 okt 2009, at 18:27, charles61 wrote:



I am using Rev Studio (4.0.0-DP-4-build 910) for Mac. There are 31  
cards in
my project. I have a series of checkboxes,. Each had code to similar  
to

this:

on mouseUp
  if hilite of button check1 = true
  then
 mark card AAA
 mark card AAA2
 mark card AAA3
 mark card AAA4
 mark card AAA5
  else
 unmark card AAA
 unmark card AAA2
 unmark card AAA3
 unmark card AAA4
 unmark card AAA5
  end if
end mouseUp

on mouseUp
  if hilite of button check2 = true
  then
 mark card BBB
 mark card BBB2
 mark card BBB3
 mark card BBB4
 mark card BBB5
  else
 unmark card BBB
 unmark card BBB2
 unmark card BBB3
 unmark card BBB4
 unmark card BBB5
  end if
end mouseUp

There are 11 checkboxes. I have a navigation button at the bottom of  
the

card with the following code:

on mouseUp
  go first marked card
end mouseUp

When I check button check2 and click on the navigation button, it  
takes me
to card AAA. When I first wrote the code a few days ago, the code  
worked

correctly. I checked the Property Inspector for card AAA in the
Application Browser and it indicated that the card was not marked!   
However,
when I use the  Card Inspector it showed that card AAA was indeed  
marked!


So, I have two questions:

1. Why doesn't the Property Inspector in the Application Browser  
show card

AAA as being marked?

2. The checkbox for button check1 was NOT checked while in the run  
mode.

So, how did card AAA get checked?


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Re: go first marked card command

2009-10-31 Thread stephen barncard
You should know that the Application Browser doesn't always automatically
refresh. There's a little icon near the bottom of the stack listing that's
almost invisible. Don't count on anything you see there without refreshing
first.
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San Francisco
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2009/10/31 charles61 csz...@mac.com


 I am using Rev Studio (4.0.0-DP-4-build 910) for Mac. There are 31 cards in
 my project. I have a series of checkboxes,. Each had code to similar to
 this:

 on mouseUp
   if hilite of button check1 = true
   then
  mark card AAA
  mark card AAA2
  mark card AAA3
  mark card AAA4
  mark card AAA5
   else
  unmark card AAA
  unmark card AAA2
  unmark card AAA3
  unmark card AAA4
  unmark card AAA5
   end if
 end mouseUp

 on mouseUp
   if hilite of button check2 = true
   then
  mark card BBB
  mark card BBB2
  mark card BBB3
  mark card BBB4
  mark card BBB5
   else
  unmark card BBB
  unmark card BBB2
  unmark card BBB3
  unmark card BBB4
  unmark card BBB5
   end if
 end mouseUp

 There are 11 checkboxes. I have a navigation button at the bottom of the
 card with the following code:

 on mouseUp
   go first marked card
 end mouseUp

 When I check button check2 and click on the navigation button, it takes
 me
 to card AAA. When I first wrote the code a few days ago, the code worked
 correctly. I checked the Property Inspector for card AAA in the
 Application Browser and it indicated that the card was not marked!
  However,
 when I use the  Card Inspector it showed that card AAA was indeed marked!

 So, I have two questions:

 1. Why doesn't the Property Inspector in the Application Browser show card
 AAA as being marked?

 2. The checkbox for button check1 was NOT checked while in the run mode.
 So, how did card AAA get checked?
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Re: go first marked card command

2009-10-31 Thread J. Landman Gay

charles61 wrote:


2. The checkbox for button check1 was NOT checked while in the run mode.
So, how did card AAA get checked? 


The way your code is written, you have to click the button twice. The 
first click marks the cards, the second click unmarks them. If you don't 
unmark them first before clicking the second button, the first ones 
remain marked and first marked card becomes AAA.


If you want these to be exclusive sets, then each button should do 
unmark all cards before marking any new ones.


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Re: go first marked card command

2009-10-31 Thread J. Landman Gay

charles61 wrote:

I am using Rev Studio (4.0.0-DP-4-build 910) for Mac. There are 31 cards in
my project. I have a series of checkboxes,. Each had code to similar to
this:

on mouseUp
   if hilite of button check1 = true
   then
  mark card AAA
  mark card AAA2
  mark card AAA3
  mark card AAA4
  mark card AAA5
   else
  unmark card AAA
  unmark card AAA2
  unmark card AAA3
  unmark card AAA4
  unmark card AAA5
   end if
end mouseUp


As an aside, here's a more compact way to do the same thing:

on mouseUp
 unmark all cds
 put the hilite of btn check1 into bool -- will be true or false
 repeat for each item i in AAA,AAA2,AAA3,AAA4,AAA5
set the marked of cd i to bool
 end repeat
end mouseUp

You could get fancy and cover both buttons with the same handler:

on mouseUp
 unmark all cds
 if the hilite of btn check1
  then put AAA,AAA2,AAA3,AAA4,AAA5 into tCds
 else if the hilite of btn check2
  then put BBB,BBB2,BBB3,BBB4,BBB5 into tCds
  repeat for each item i in tCds
set the marked of cd i to bool
  end repeat
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Re: go first marked card command

2009-10-31 Thread J. Landman Gay

J. Landman Gay wrote:


set the marked of cd i to bool


Sorry, old HyperCard habits die hard. This should be mark -- i.e., 
set the mark of cd i to bool.


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Re: [Q] Windows compiled applications and the Task Bar

2009-10-31 Thread Shao Sean

 set it to modeless.

Has the visual appearance of this window style been fixed in 4.0 ?
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Re: go first marked card command

2009-10-31 Thread charles61

Thanks to everyone about responding to my question regarding the Application
Browser!

Jacque thanks for your suggested code regarding my marked card question. I
want the user to check a checkbox if that condition exist or let it remain
uncheck if that condition does not exist. In this particular instance, the
user may check two or more checkboxes. So my code is designed to to go the
first set of marked cards then to the next set of marked cards and so forth.
This also makes printing of cards easier because of using marked cards.  


J. Landman Gay wrote:
 
 J. Landman Gay wrote:
 
 set the marked of cd i to bool
 
 Sorry, old HyperCard habits die hard. This should be mark -- i.e., 
 set the mark of cd i to bool.
 
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Re: RevMedia Woes

2009-10-31 Thread James Hurley


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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:17:48 -0500
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James Hurley wrote:


The most troublesome thing about Rev animation for me is the basic
inability to move an object slowly and smoothly across the screen.

No matter what combination of number of points, type of looping  
method,

or loop timing, I always get a herky-jerky motion.

This is a problem in the the desktop and is aggravated in the RevLet.

It is noticeable on Rev's web site: http://revmedia.runrev.com/revMedia/
Notice, for example, the animation of: move image Rev Icon to the
points of graphic Curve


Odd, it's very smooth on my iMac. No jerks at all. Could it be related
to platform? Browser? CPU?

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Hi Jacque,

I don't think that's it. I have three Macs:  a Mini, a PowerBook, and  
a MacBook Pro


It is the same on all three. The Rev icon stutters as it moves along  
the curve.


The same is true when the coordinate axes are moved.

On the other hand, when I run the FlightControl video (http://www.firemint.com/flightcontrol/video.html 
) on the same machines, the motion is quite smooth.


I don't mean to say that Rev is all that bad, For a lot of uses it  
would be acceptable. I mean that I have not found a way to get really  
smooth animation. There is always this stutter stepping.


Jim Hurley
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Re: Another How to do this in a Revlet? thread

2009-10-31 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Richard Gaskin wrote:

  I figured they were vector, but the show/hide part I hadn't thought of. 

 Makes good sense, though, keeps the number of things
 on screen to a minimum.
 Nice idea, rather like the famous ZoomQuilt:
 http://www.zoomquilt.org/

Yes, Zoomquilt is a really nice example
of bitmaps smooth resizing inside
Flash player.

If anyone wants to try something like Zoomquilt
inside Rev, get all the images:
http://public.hbk-bs.de/~baumgarn/zoom/steps/

and read some explanation about the code:
http://www2.ambientdesign.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-1482.html

alejandro


  
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RevMedia: plugins or no plugins?

2009-10-31 Thread Richard Gaskin
On the comparison page for the Rev line at 
http://www.runrev.com/products/product-comparison/comparison-chart/, 
it has a checkmark for RevMedia for:


 Extendable with code libraries and externals.

Sounds good, but when I run RevMedia there's no Development-Plugins 
menu, and no Plugins folder in the app folder.


So it looks like one can manually add library stacks to their own stuff, 
but that RevMedia offers no way to conveniently add tools for use in the 
IDE, is that correct?


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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta

2009-10-31 Thread Len Morgan
I can confirm that cascading menus in a revLet DON'T work right.  
Comboboxes are a little flaky too but that is intermittent.  I use 
cascading menus pretty much the way Richard discribed them.  I have a 
Reports button and under that I have different groups of reports which 
each have their own their own line on this menu.  I can't take the mouse 
off of the original Reports button (top level of menus) without it going 
away.


On the same menu bar, selecting menus that only have a single level work 
fine.  It's the cascade that causes the problem and since the very first 
line of my Reports menu is a cascading menu, I can't select anything 
below it either.


len morgan

Richard Miller wrote:

David,

There is an extra tab in my example, but it doesn't effect anything. 
The problem remains as described. Did you try it in your browser and 
have it work properly?


Richard




dfepst...@comcast.net wrote:

Richard Miller wrote:
...
1. Create a popup button. It will come with three lines of data in it.

...
3. Go back and enter this into the message box:

put return  tab  tab  choice x after line 1 of btn 1

4. In the development environment, choice x should now appear as a 
sub-choice of the first menu item, and you should be able to select it.

...

Looks like there's an extra tab in your step 3.

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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta

2009-10-31 Thread Richard Miller

Len,

Just a moment ago, I got confirmation from a Rev engineer that they 
confirmed the problem and will presumably correct it shortly, I hope.


Richard




Len Morgan wrote:
I can confirm that cascading menus in a revLet DON'T work right.  
Comboboxes are a little flaky too but that is intermittent.  I use 
cascading menus pretty much the way Richard discribed them.  I have a 
Reports button and under that I have different groups of reports which 
each have their own their own line on this menu.  I can't take the 
mouse off of the original Reports button (top level of menus) without 
it going away.


On the same menu bar, selecting menus that only have a single level 
work fine.  It's the cascade that causes the problem and since the 
very first line of my Reports menu is a cascading menu, I can't select 
anything below it either.


len morgan

Richard Miller wrote:

David,

There is an extra tab in my example, but it doesn't effect anything. 
The problem remains as described. Did you try it in your browser and 
have it work properly?


Richard




dfepst...@comcast.net wrote:

Richard Miller wrote:
...
1. Create a popup button. It will come with three lines of data in it.

...
3. Go back and enter this into the message box:

put return  tab  tab  choice x after line 1 of btn 1

4. In the development environment, choice x should now appear as a 
sub-choice of the first menu item, and you should be able to select it.

...

Looks like there's an extra tab in your step 3.

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Re: go first marked card command

2009-10-31 Thread J. Landman Gay

charles61 wrote:


Jacque thanks for your suggested code regarding my marked card question. I
want the user to check a checkbox if that condition exist or let it remain
uncheck if that condition does not exist. In this particular instance, the
user may check two or more checkboxes. So my code is designed to to go the
first set of marked cards then to the next set of marked cards and so forth.
This also makes printing of cards easier because of using marked cards.  


I see now. In that case you're right, you don't want to unmark existing 
marked cards. But the first marked card will always be AAA if it's 
card number is lower than the other marked cards.


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Re: [Q] Windows compiled applications and the Task Bar

2009-10-31 Thread J. Landman Gay

Shao Sean wrote:

  set it to modeless.

Has the visual appearance of this window style been fixed in 4.0 ?


I'm not sure; what was wrong with it?

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Re: go first marked card command

2009-10-31 Thread charles61

Hi Jacqueline,

Right - the first marked cards if it card number is lower than the  
other marked cards. By the way, I just found your font resource page  
at your web site. This is just what I needed. But I have one question  
I am using Arial 12 point font in my project which is being developed  
on a Mac with OSX. I have not yet completed my project. So, I don't  
know how it will look in Windows XP.

Here is my question. Will Arial 12 pt fonts look okay on Windows XP in  
checkboxes? I was concern about the width of Arial 12 pt fonts being  
greater on XP than OSX.

Thanks for your e-mail and your time in answering my scripting question!

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com





On Oct 31, 2009, at 5:41 PM, J. Landman Gay [via Runtime Revolution]  
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 charles61 wrote:

  Jacque thanks for your suggested code regarding my marked card  
 question. I
  want the user to check a checkbox if that condition exist or let  
 it remain
  uncheck if that condition does not exist. In this particular  
 instance, the
  user may check two or more checkboxes. So my code is designed to  
 to go the
  first set of marked cards then to the next set of marked cards and  
 so forth.
  This also makes printing of cards easier because of using marked  
 cards.

 I see now. In that case you're right, you don't want to unmark  
 existing
 marked cards. But the first marked card will always be AAA if it's
 card number is lower than the other marked cards.

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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta

2009-10-31 Thread Richard Gaskin

Richard Miller wrote:
Just a moment ago, I got confirmation from a Rev engineer that they 
confirmed the problem and will presumably correct it shortly, I hope.


Len Morgan wrote:
I can confirm that cascading menus in a revLet DON'T work right.  
Comboboxes are a little flaky too but that is intermittent.  I use 
cascading menus pretty much the way Richard discribed them.  I have a 
Reports button and under that I have different groups of reports which 
each have their own their own line on this menu.  I can't take the 
mouse off of the original Reports button (top level of menus) without 
it going away.


On the same menu bar, selecting menus that only have a single level 
work fine.  It's the cascade that causes the problem and since the 
very first line of my Reports menu is a cascading menu, I can't select 
anything below it either.


There are a two issues with cascade-style menus:

1. They don't draw using OS menus, but instead use emulated menus

2. They require that the mouse be held down, rather than just
   clicked as with other menus

But note that those are with the cascade menu button style, not with 
using tab-spaced sub-menus in pullDown style buttons.


Was the note from Support that they would address cascade style menus 
specifically, or with sub-menus in pullDown menus?


I sure hope it's the former, as I love using cascade styles for flyout 
menus but have had to do some funky workarounds to get the to work 
correctly.


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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta

2009-10-31 Thread Richard Miller
Sorry, Richard it was regarding the latter (popup/pulldowns). What's 
the disadvantage of using a pulldown menu with tabs to create 
submenu's... as opposed to a cascade menu button?


Richard


Richard Gaskin wrote:

Richard Miller wrote:
Just a moment ago, I got confirmation from a Rev engineer that they 
confirmed the problem and will presumably correct it shortly, I 
hope.


Len Morgan wrote:
I can confirm that cascading menus in a revLet DON'T work right.  
Comboboxes are a little flaky too but that is intermittent.  I use 
cascading menus pretty much the way Richard discribed them.  I have 
a Reports button and under that I have different groups of reports 
which each have their own their own line on this menu.  I can't take 
the mouse off of the original Reports button (top level of menus) 
without it going away.


On the same menu bar, selecting menus that only have a single level 
work fine.  It's the cascade that causes the problem and since the 
very first line of my Reports menu is a cascading menu, I can't 
select anything below it either.


There are a two issues with cascade-style menus:

1. They don't draw using OS menus, but instead use emulated menus

2. They require that the mouse be held down, rather than just
   clicked as with other menus

But note that those are with the cascade menu button style, not with 
using tab-spaced sub-menus in pullDown style buttons.


Was the note from Support that they would address cascade style menus 
specifically, or with sub-menus in pullDown menus?


I sure hope it's the former, as I love using cascade styles for flyout 
menus but have had to do some funky workarounds to get the to work 
correctly.


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Re: revEnterprise dp-5 / revMedia beta / revWeb beta

2009-10-31 Thread Richard Gaskin

Richard Miller wrote:
Sorry, Richard it was regarding the latter (popup/pulldowns). What's 
the disadvantage of using a pulldown menu with tabs to create 
submenu's... as opposed to a cascade menu button?


None at all; in the modern engine they're completely different animals.

In the olden days, before menus could be drawn from the text of buttons, 
one had to create stacks with buttons on them as menus.  Yes, it was as 
onerous and ugly as it sounds. ;)


To make submenus in such a system, we used cascade style menu buttons in 
those menu stacks.


After menu buttons were modified to render OS-native menus from the 
button's textual contents, using stacks as menus is now pretty much 
useless for everything except drop-down galleries.


That would leave cascade style menus as mere detritus in the engine, 
were it not for the fairly common convention in recent years of having 
flyout menus, menus with a right-pointing triangle that work similarly 
to popups but the menu appears at a specific location, at the top-right 
of the control.


Using a cascade style menu for this would be wonderful, except for the 
two shortcomings I noted (non-native appearance and the need to hold the 
mouse button down).


The workaround now is to make a right-pointing arrow icon, assign it to 
a button, make a hidden popup style button which has your menu items and 
menupick handlers, and use the popup command to show that menu from the 
visible control with the icon.


Ugh.

Not impossible, not really all that difficult, but requiring two 
controls to get something we're so close to having perfectly with a 
single control feels unclean. ;)


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postgresql question

2009-10-31 Thread Mark Wieder
All-

Has anyone been able to connect to a postgresql database using md5
authentication? Since this is my first time trying this, I'm pretty
sure the problem is on my end, but I figured I'd better ask before
investing any more time on this.

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Re: [Q] Windows compiled applications and the Task Bar

2009-10-31 Thread Shao Sean

 what was wrong with it?


It used to be styled as a palette instead of a document window
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Re: postgresql question

2009-10-31 Thread Mark Smith
Mark, I haven't done it either, but I read up on it a while ago - I  
think it involves receiving 2 salt values from the server, and is a  
two-step process:


We have 2 salt values, salt1 and salt 2
step : put md5digest(salt1  username  password) into tTemp
put md5digest(salt2  tTemp) into tStringtosend

I can't remember if tStringtosend should be hex or base64 encoded.  
You may also need to prepend md5 to tStringtosend.


Best,

Mark Smith



On 31 Oct 2009, at 23:35, Mark Wieder wrote:


All-

Has anyone been able to connect to a postgresql database using md5
authentication? Since this is my first time trying this, I'm pretty
sure the problem is on my end, but I figured I'd better ask before
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Re: postgresql question

2009-10-31 Thread Mark Wieder
Mark-

Saturday, October 31, 2009, 5:41:04 PM, you wrote:

 Mark, I haven't done it either, but I read up on it a while ago - I
 think it involves receiving 2 salt values from the server, and is a
 two-step process:

 We have 2 salt values, salt1 and salt 2
 step : put md5digest(salt1  username  password) into tTemp
 put md5digest(salt2  tTemp) into tStringtosend

 I can't remember if tStringtosend should be hex or base64 encoded.  
 You may also need to prepend md5 to tStringtosend.

Thanks. Yeah, I read about prepending the md5, but that didn't solve
the problem by itself. And I'm catenating the name and password (I
believe the password comes first, but since it's not working I
wouldn't swear to it). If you remember where you read about the salt
values, I'd love to see a url - I'll go digging myself.

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Re: postgresql question

2009-10-31 Thread Mark Smith
Mark, this thread may help (I'm pretty sure I got details wrong in  
the last post)


http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2002-06/msg00484.php

Best,

Mark Smith

On 1 Nov 2009, at 01:09, Mark Wieder wrote:


Mark-

Saturday, October 31, 2009, 5:41:04 PM, you wrote:


Mark, I haven't done it either, but I read up on it a while ago - I
think it involves receiving 2 salt values from the server, and is a
two-step process:



We have 2 salt values, salt1 and salt 2
step : put md5digest(salt1  username  password) into tTemp
put md5digest(salt2  tTemp) into tStringtosend



I can't remember if tStringtosend should be hex or base64 encoded.
You may also need to prepend md5 to tStringtosend.


Thanks. Yeah, I read about prepending the md5, but that didn't solve
the problem by itself. And I'm catenating the name and password (I
believe the password comes first, but since it's not working I
wouldn't swear to it). If you remember where you read about the salt
values, I'd love to see a url - I'll go digging myself.

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Re: [Q] Windows compiled applications and the Task Bar

2009-10-31 Thread J. Landman Gay

Shao Sean wrote:

 what was wrong with it?


It used to be styled as a palette instead of a document window


I guess I must have known that, but it left the building. Anyway, 
modeless windows look just like toplevel windows now. The only 
difference I can see is that you lose the asterisk after the stack name.


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on-rev.com Perl recipe

2009-10-31 Thread Michael Kann
I'm happy with how easy it is to get started with the on-rev website. I'm 
stuck, though, with trying to get a Perl script to work. Can anyone post a 
working setup recipe? I only need a feeble hello to get going. 

I guess I'll need:

name of file
text of file
placement of file on server
extension on file
permissions on files and folders

I've tried every permutation of the above and nothing has worked. 

Thanks in advance.

Michael Kann








  
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Re: postgresql question

2009-10-31 Thread Mark Wieder
Mark-

Saturday, October 31, 2009, 6:23:35 PM, you wrote:

 Mark, this thread may help (I'm pretty sure I got details wrong in  
 the last post)

 http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2002-06/msg00484.php

Hmmm. Thanks. I had previously come across this one as well.

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.0/interactive/sql-createuser.html

So it looks like revOpenDatabase() isn't going to work unless I can
somehow create a callback to catch the salt value, create the md5
value, and then call revOpenDatabase again.

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Re: go first marked card command

2009-10-31 Thread J. Landman Gay

charles61 wrote:

Here is my question. Will Arial 12 pt fonts look okay on Windows XP in  
checkboxes? I was concern about the width of Arial 12 pt fonts being  
greater on XP than OSX.


I often use this reference: 
http://www.ampsoft.net/webdesign-l/WindowsMacFonts.html


Arial is very close on both platforms. I generally leave a few pixels 
extra width in each field to accomodate any differences.


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