Re: HTML and character entities in RSS

[Peter Brigham MD]

On Feb 26, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

Looking for standards among RSS feeds is like looking for standards  
in Windows GUI designs:  everyone knows they're published somewhere,  
but no one takes the time to read 'em. ;)


"The great thing about standards in computing is that there are so many
of them."

-- Peter

Peter M. Brigham
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Re: Conference-DVDs arrived

[Kay C Lan]

Sorry Richmond, I have since caught up with some other List posts and
see that you have apologised to Kevin.

There was no need for this extra post of mine.

As you said, on both a professional and personal level, lets hope the
rest of 2010 brings about an improvement over earlier events.

All the best.

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Kay C Lan  wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Richmond Mathewson
>  wrote:
>>
>> All things are a matter of degree. Carrying anything to its reductio ad
>> absurdam
>> will show its silly side.
>
> Richmond, there was nothing absurd about my son's example, it was a
> real life situation. The other example was hyperthetical, but I said
> 'might die', not that they did.
>
>
>> What I learnt is that, if at all possible, one should not let personal
>> problems get in the way;
>
> But that is not what you wrote. I believe it was you who capitalized
> the never, multiple times, in your post, not your professor.
>
> But this is all beating around in circles. What I think I really found
> objectionable about your post was that you were fully aware that Kevin
> had suffered the loss of two family* members and therefore if you
> consider my sons' story reductio ad absurdam, then how could you
> possibly type out a sentence suggesting personal problems should NEVER
> NEVER interfere, and then, as if to rub salt into the wound, compare
> it to turning up to work with the flu and a cup of Lemsip.
>
> Sorry, I just found it ALL VERY INSENSITIVE.
>
> * I don't actually know how many employees work for RunRev, but I'm
> guessing there are less of them than in my own family, so in such a
> small work environment, I consider that everyone at RunRev was deeply
> effected by the passing of Bill Marriott to the extent that it was
> similar to the death of a relative.
>
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Re: Conference-DVDs arrived

[Kay C Lan]

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Richmond Mathewson
 wrote:
>
> All things are a matter of degree. Carrying anything to its reductio ad
> absurdam
> will show its silly side.

Richmond, there was nothing absurd about my son's example, it was a
real life situation. The other example was hyperthetical, but I said
'might die', not that they did.


> What I learnt is that, if at all possible, one should not let personal
> problems get in the way;

But that is not what you wrote. I believe it was you who capitalized
the never, multiple times, in your post, not your professor.

But this is all beating around in circles. What I think I really found
objectionable about your post was that you were fully aware that Kevin
had suffered the loss of two family* members and therefore if you
consider my sons' story reductio ad absurdam, then how could you
possibly type out a sentence suggesting personal problems should NEVER
NEVER interfere, and then, as if to rub salt into the wound, compare
it to turning up to work with the flu and a cup of Lemsip.

Sorry, I just found it ALL VERY INSENSITIVE.

* I don't actually know how many employees work for RunRev, but I'm
guessing there are less of them than in my own family, so in such a
small work environment, I consider that everyone at RunRev was deeply
effected by the passing of Bill Marriott to the extent that it was
similar to the death of a relative.
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Re: an annual calendar somewhere?

[zryip theSlug]

2010/2/26 Andre.Bisseret :
> Thank you much Bob for this nice calendar.
> Also, thanks to the others who added comments, results of trials and
> elaborated.
> I was not waiting for such a "rush" on this topic ;-))
>
> However, my problem is not solved with this kind of layout. Mostly I need
> that the user be able to highlight periods of the year.
> For example periods when a holidays' house has been rented (or is plan to be
> rented).
>
> With the present layout that can't be done. One can't drag (in order to
> highlight)  from jan. 2 to jan 9 for example, or from jan. 30 to feb 6 etc
>
> That why I am looking for an annual calendar with 12 rows/lines, one for
> each month ( or might be 12 columns).
>

André, if you need some examples have a look to the lab experiment 009

http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=68:experiment-009-playing-with-the-david-becks-calendar-lib&catid=35:lab&Itemid=53



HTH,

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HTML and character entities in RSS

[Richard Gaskin]

Looking for standards among RSS feeds is like looking for standards in 
Windows GUI designs:  everyone knows they're published somewhere, but no 
one takes the time to read 'em. ;)


I've been parsing a bunch of RSS files, and man, what a wild west of 
weirdness it is.


For example, most of the RSS specs I've read suggest that all data is 
plan text, with HTML allowable only when marked as CDATA.


But I've seen feeds that do that backwards, and some that have some 
strings containing character entities flagged as CDATA with other 
containing entities that aren't flagged -- in the same feed!


By what rule should I know when to translate data from character 
entities back to plain old ASCII?


Browsers seem to handle the mish-mash rather well; wish I were as 
graceful at handling all the inconsistencies I'm finding.


--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World
 Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com
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Re: dropping to the Finder

[Richard Gaskin]

cubist wrote:

> Possible solution/workaround for dragging stuff directly to
> the Finder: Use 'scaffolding' --some sort of tiny (like,
> 1-byte), invisible file with an exotic/unique name, which
> has no use in and of itself, but exists to provide a useful
> side-effect. Drag your 'scaffolding' file to the destination
> normally. When the 'scaffolding' file is dropped, get its
> filepath from the Finder; schlep all the *real* files to that
> location; and (silently) delete the 'scaffolding' file.
> The big question here is, how to stage-manage the process so
> that the user is never aware of the 'scaffolding' file and
> thinks it all
> Just Works...

With the tempName function making and moving the file would be a snap, 
and snappy.


I think the truly hard part is where you write, "get its filepath from 
the Finder"


Hmmm...

Actually, since a newly-dropped file becomes the Finder selection, that 
wouldn't be too hard at all with a line of AppleScript.


Now to figure out how I get that info on Win and Linux

And Björnke, thanks for the tip about the file ID.  I'd forgotten about 
that.  May come in handy if all else fails and I need to look at writing 
an external for this.


--
 Richard Gaskin
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Re: substack positioning

[David Coker]

>>add 10 to item one of theNewPos

That's perfect!
Well, actually 15 in this case, but the method of addressing each
individual position property is exactly what I was missing.

Thank you so much, kind sir!

-David C.
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Re: substack positioning

[David Coker]

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Bob Sneidar  wrote:
> That's odd. It should be precise. I get no overlap whatsoever. I wonder if 
> the Showborders property of the stack is set to true?

I just checked and the Showborders property definitely is showing to
be false. What seems strange is that I've tossed in a couple of
"answer" messages to display the positioning for both items
respectively and they match up exactly, position wise.

I'm developing on Windows Vista, so it probably has something to do
with the border themes in Vista.

-David C.
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Re: substack positioning

[Bob Sneidar]

put the topright of stack "theMainStack" into theNewPos -- whatever it's name is
add 10 to item one of theNewPos -- seems you are trying to tile them?
add 5 to item 2 of theNewPos -- or whatever you want your margin to be
set the topLeft of stack "theSubStack" to theNewPos -- whatever IT'S name is

Bob


On Feb 26, 2010, at 4:16 PM, David Coker wrote:

> I guess what I'm missing is... based on the location of the main
> stack, how do I set or adjust the topLeft position in my sub stack(s)
> in order to avoid the overlap?

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Re: substack positioning

[Bob Sneidar]

Whoops! Belay my last! There's no such property for a stack.

Bob


On Feb 26, 2010, at 4:16 PM, David Coker wrote:

> Hello folks,
> I'm trying a new approach in what will be a somewhat complex U.I.
> development, where I would like to use a main stack similar in fashion
> to the rev tools pallet. From the main stack the user will be able to
> open various sub stacks, each of which I want to open to the right
> side of the main stack.
> 
> I'm getting the topRight position of my main stack without any
> problem, but haven't yet found a way to align the sub stack without it
> overlapping the main stack just a bit (5-10 pixels roughly). For
> example, if the topRight position returns 10,20 I need to set the
> topLeft of the sub stack to say 20,20
> 
> I guess what I'm missing is... based on the location of the main
> stack, how do I set or adjust the topLeft position in my sub stack(s)
> in order to avoid the overlap?
> 
> Best regards,
> David C.
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Re: substack positioning

[Bob Sneidar]

That's odd. It should be precise. I get no overlap whatsoever. I wonder if the 
Showborders property of the stack is set to true? 

Bob


On Feb 26, 2010, at 4:16 PM, David Coker wrote:

> Hello folks,
> I'm trying a new approach in what will be a somewhat complex U.I.
> development, where I would like to use a main stack similar in fashion
> to the rev tools pallet. From the main stack the user will be able to
> open various sub stacks, each of which I want to open to the right
> side of the main stack.
> 
> I'm getting the topRight position of my main stack without any
> problem, but haven't yet found a way to align the sub stack without it
> overlapping the main stack just a bit (5-10 pixels roughly). For
> example, if the topRight position returns 10,20 I need to set the
> topLeft of the sub stack to say 20,20
> 
> I guess what I'm missing is... based on the location of the main
> stack, how do I set or adjust the topLeft position in my sub stack(s)
> in order to avoid the overlap?
> 
> Best regards,
> David C.
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Re: Embedded Images in Fields

[Bob Sneidar]

Whoa Nelly! I wonder how that would work for Data Grid tables?

Bob


On Feb 26, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:

> Hi Stewart,
> 
> Just add an extra character to your field and set the imagesource of that 
> character to the id of the image:
> 
> set the imagesource of char 500 of field "You Field" to 15002
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> 
> Mark Schonewille
> 
> Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
> Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
> 
> Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new software development projects. Feel 
> free to contact me for a quote.
> 
> Op 27 feb 2010, om 00:43 heeft RevList het volgende geschreven:
> 
>> How does one go about embedding images in a text field.
>> I want to create a help file in one of my solutions with some screen snaps
>> in it.
>> I want to do like the Resource Center text field does.
>> 
>> Is there a sample or tutorial somewhere?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Stewart
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substack positioning

[David Coker]

Hello folks,
I'm trying a new approach in what will be a somewhat complex U.I.
development, where I would like to use a main stack similar in fashion
to the rev tools pallet. From the main stack the user will be able to
open various sub stacks, each of which I want to open to the right
side of the main stack.

I'm getting the topRight position of my main stack without any
problem, but haven't yet found a way to align the sub stack without it
overlapping the main stack just a bit (5-10 pixels roughly). For
example, if the topRight position returns 10,20 I need to set the
topLeft of the sub stack to say 20,20

I guess what I'm missing is... based on the location of the main
stack, how do I set or adjust the topLeft position in my sub stack(s)
in order to avoid the overlap?

Best regards,
David C.
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Re: an annual calendar somewhere?

[zryip theSlug]

2010/2/26 Richard Gaskin :
> FWIW, here's a a function I pulled out of my archives which is a sort of
> variant of Cal in native RevTalk, making a single month from a date passed
> to it.  I'll leave it as an exercise to the user to make a year out of it if
> needed.
>
> One of the nice things about RevTalk is that the weekDayNames and monthNames
> functions return values in the current system's local language, so this is
> localized without having to do anything.

I confess that I have missed these two valuables functions.

> Interestingly, without the overhead involved in going to shell it's about 20
> times faster on my machine than calling shell("cal").

It's instant on my machine. So with your script I could back in time? 8-)


However as far I have understood it seems that the property
useSystemDate set to true is necessary to obtain values according with
the local language.
Plus, a second difficulty exists: the week don't starts necessary a
Sunday but a Monday.

So I try to improve the Richard's solution like this:

function Cal pDate, pFirstDayWeek
   set useSystemDate to true
    -- Returns a plain-text calendar representation of
    -- the month the date specified in pDate is in.
    -- If no month is provided it uses the current
    -- month. Month and day names use the user's current
    -- system settings.
    --
    -- Use current date as default:
   if pDate is empty then put the date into pDate
   if pFirstDayWeek is empty then put "Sunday" into pFirstDayWeek
    -- Verify date is valid:
    convert pDate to dateitems
    if the result is not empty then return "Error: "& the result
    --
    put empty into tCal
    --
    -- Make month/year header:
   put item 1 of pDate into tYear
   put item 2 of pDate into tMonthNumber
   put line (tMonthNumber) of the monthNames into tMonth
   put tMonth && tYear into tHeader
    -- Center it:
    repeat for ( (20 - len(tHeader)) div 2)
     put " " after tCal
    end repeat
    put tHeader &cr after tCal
    --
    -- Make day names header:
    put weekdayNamesList(pFirstDayWeek) into tWeekdayNames
    repeat for each line tDay in tWeekdayNames
     put char 1 to 2 of tDay &" " after tCal
    end repeat
    put cr after tCal
    --
    -- Pad beginning with empty days:
   put createDate(tYear,tMonthNumber,1) into tStartDay -- create a
date in the system's local language
   convert tStartDay to dateitems
   if (pFirstDayWeek is "Monday") then
  repeat for (last item of tStartDay - 2)
    put "   " after tCal
   end repeat
   else
   repeat for (last item of tStartDay - 1)
    put "   " after tCal
   end repeat
   end if

   put createDate(tYear,tMonthNumber,1) into tStartDay -- create a
date in the system's local language

    -- Walk through 31 days, stopping when we reach a
    -- number not valid for the month we're doing:

    repeat with i = 1 to dayOf(addToDate(tStartDay,0,1,-1))
 -- the end value is the number of days in the month. To
obtain the last date of a month, add 1 month and subtract one
 -- day to the first day of a month
     -- Get day number:
  put createDate(tYear,tMonthNumber,i) into tDate
  convert tDate to dateitems
  if the result is not empty then exit repeat
  put item 3 of tDate into tDayNum
     --
     -- Pad it and add it:
  if len(i) = 1 then put " " before i
  put i &" " after tCal
     --
     -- Go to next line if we're at the end of the week:
  if last item of tDate = lastDayOfWeek(pFirstDayWeek) then put cr
after tCal
    end repeat
    --
    -- Pad empty lines at end for uniform appearance
    -- when using multiple calendars in a field:
    repeat for (8-the number of lines of tCal)
     put cr after tCal
    end repeat
    --
    -- Send it to the caller:
    return tCal
end Cal

function weekdayNamesList pFirstDay
   set useSystemDate to true
   put the abbr weekdayNames into tWeekdayNames
   if pFirstDay is "Monday" then
  put cr&first line of tWeekdayNames after tWeekdayNames
  delete first line of tWeekdayNames
   end if
   return tWeekdayNames
end weekdayNamesList

function lastDayOfWeek pFirstDay
   if pFirstDay is "Monday" then
  return 1
   else
  return 7
   end if
end lastDayOfWeek

function firstDayInMonth pStartDate
   -- Return the first day in a month
   set useSystemDate to true
   convert pStartDate to dateitems
   put 1 into item 3 of pStartDate
   convert pStartDate to short date
   return pStartDate
end firstDayInMonth

function createDate pTheYear,pTheMonth,pTheDay
   local tDateItems

   set useSystemDate to true
   put pTheYear,pTheMonth,pTheDay,0,0,0,0 into tDateItems
   convert tDateItems from dateItems to short date
   return tDateItems
end createDate

function addToDate pStartDate,pAddToYear,pAddToMonth,pAddToDay
   -- Allows you to manipulate a date in a single pass
   set useSystemDate to true
   convert pStartDate to dateitems
   add pAddToYear to item 1 of pStar

Re: Project Euler

[Mick Collins]

 Mike, 'scool, thanks.

Brian, I agree, great project for math and coding.  Sometimes it's an 
enlightening exercise to take an existing capability and code it oneself or to 
extend it.  For instance, I have written routines to do "infinite" precision 
integer arithmetic (working on an "infinite" precision calculator), to do a 
sortof baseConvert, but which will accept decimals or fractions and bases 
larger than 36, intermediately large (10^12+) prime factorization and at one 
time in I wrote some routines to mimic trig functions.  As far as sqrt, back in 
the old days when I was in high school, we learned to extract those by hand ... 
you, too?  



>From: Michael Kann 
>Subject: Re: Project Euler
>To: How to use Revolution 
>Message-ID: <327364.51145...@web56701.mail.re3.yahoo.com> 
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> 
>Mick, 
>
>You beat me to it on the Fibonacci series. I also thought about using the 
>golden ratio. Using a few other relationships allows one to compose a rather 
>compact script.
>
>1. the F numbers are always odd odd even, odd odd even
>is
>--- before four million
>
>2. F1 + F2 + F3 . . . Fn = F(n+2)- 1
>
>--- this allows you to do the summation at the end
>--- If you know Fn then you just go up a couple more
>--- numbers to get the sum of the first n numbers
>
>3. If you stop the summation at F(even) then the sum of
>   the even numbers will be 1/2 of the total sum
>
>-- 1,1,TWO,3,5,EIGHT,13,21,THIRTY-FOUR
>-- The two numbers sum to the EVENS (by definition)
>
>Here's the script -- 555 is just any large number
>
>on mouseUp
>put (1+ sqrt(5))/2 into g
>repeat with n = 0 to 555 step 3
>   if (g^n)/sqrt(5) > 4E6 then exit repeat 
>end repeat 
>put (round((g^(n-1))/sqrt(5)) - 1) / 2 
>end mouseUp 
>-
>The golden ratio technique is most valuable if you want to hit a very large F 
>number. You don't have to count up to it. It is like random access memory.
>
>
>
>Here's another interesting property of a F series:
>
>1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21
>
>Take the square of 8 -- 64. It is off by one from the product 5*13. That holds 
>for any 3 numbers in a row. Sometimes the square is one more than the products 
>of its neighbors, sometimes one less: but always one off.  
>
>
**
>Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:27:38 -0500
>From: Brian Yennie 
>Subject: Re: Project Euler
>To: How to use Revolution 
>Message-ID: 
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>Good stuff! I particularly like this project, because it allows for a 
>combination of clever coding AND pure math. The best problems surely require 
>both. It also depends what "level" of computation you force yourself to 
>contain in you code. For example, Rev has a sqrt() function, but what if you 
>had to write this code without that function built in? Would that lead to a 
>whole different approach? Is it ok to use known formulas, or does your code 
>have to derive them itself? Etc.
>
>With that said, it would be pretty darn cool if we got a near-complete set of 
>solutions all written in Rev... what a nice reference for tight mathematical 
>coding.
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Re: dropping to the Finder

[cubist]

   Possible solution/workaround for dragging stuff directly to the 
Finder: Use 'scaffolding' --some sort of tiny (like, 1-byte), invisible 
file with an exotic/unique name, which has no use in and of itself, but 
exists to provide a useful side-effect. Drag your 'scaffolding' file to 
the destination normally. When the 'scaffolding' file is dropped, get 
its filepath from the Finder; schlep all the *real* files to that 
location; and (silently) delete the 'scaffolding' file.
   The big question here is, how to stage-manage the process so that 
the user is never aware of the 'scaffolding' file and thinks it all 
Just Works...



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Re: Embedded Images in Fields

[zryip theSlug]

2010/2/27 RevList :
> How does one go about embedding images in a text field.
> I want to create a help file in one of my solutions with some screen snaps
> in it.
> I want to do like the Resource Center text field does.
>
> Is there a sample or tutorial somewhere?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Stewart

Hi Stewart,

Search for the keyword "imageSource" on your Rev Dictionary and you
will understand how its works ;)

HTH

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Re: Embedded Images in Fields

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Stewart,

Just add an extra character to your field and set the imagesource of  
that character to the id of the image:


set the imagesource of char 500 of field "You Field" to 15002

--
Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

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How does one go about embedding images in a text field.
I want to create a help file in one of my solutions with some screen  
snaps

in it.
I want to do like the Resource Center text field does.

Is there a sample or tutorial somewhere?

Thanks in advance.
Stewart


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Embedded Images in Fields

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How does one go about embedding images in a text field.
I want to create a help file in one of my solutions with some screen snaps
in it.
I want to do like the Resource Center text field does.

Is there a sample or tutorial somewhere?

Thanks in advance.
Stewart


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Re: OT: Any recommendations for some Mac OS x Apps?

[Jef Jansen]

Op 26-feb-10, om 20:40 heeft J. Landman Gay het volgende geschreven:


Richmond Mathewson wrote:

3D animation: Blender
not that I've ever used it; it sits on my computer as a "must have"


Forgot about that, I need to pick up a copy. It's supposed to be  
very good, but I hear it has a learning curve from hell, so I  
haven't tackled it yet.


ok, not easy to learn. But a program with great potential, enormous  
possibilities. The new version 2.5 will be another big step forward.  
Really worth to get the hang. I used the program since version 2.37  
and still I am always amazed by the possibilities. Are there easy 3D  
programs ?




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Re: dropping to the Finder

[Björnke von Gierke]

i might have an idea for you. Be warned, it's a dirty workaround. and only 
halfway there. seriously, i'm not fond of it.

I tested this:
on mousedown
   set the dragdata["files"] to "/Users/bvg/Desktop/GreeceMap.jpg"
end mousedown

Note that the file does exist. But, when I start a drag from that button, the 
file will be _duplicated_ in the finder wherever I drop it, including proper 
renaming (when dropped onto the desktop, a file "greeceMap 2. jpg" is created). 
Note that other OSes might behave differently (might depend on the 
dragAction?). However, there is no easy way to actually know _where_ the user 
dropped the file, as you noticed. So what you can do is this:

The user selects the files for download, and then you download the file into a 
temporary hidden location (eg. temp folder), and then, when you're finished 
downloading you let the user start a drag action, while setting your 
dragdata["files"] to the temp files.

Another Idea i just had when rereading my post: all files in mac os have a 
unique id, independent of name and place in the folder hierarchy. I think 
there's command line and other ways (applescript) to query that id. you could 
let the user drag a fake file of which you _know_ the id, then find out where 
it's now at in the finder... that'd actually work! No idea how to querry the id 
tho.


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Re: OT: Any recommendations for some Mac OS x Apps?

[Jim Ault]

I agree with Scott for Cheetah 3D
I have used it for a couple years and found the author extremely  
responsive to questions of any kind.

The interface is very intuitive.

For anyone (not me) who knows javascript, there are tons of ways to  
build tools and automate Cheetah.


The forum community is usually quite responsive and helpful.


On Feb 26, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:




3D animation: Blender



For Mac 3D modeling, I've gotten into Cheetah3D:
http://www.cheetah3d.com/
Currently $149 (sometimes on sale for $99)

I'm a 3D novice, but this has been relatively easy to understand  
with a nice
interface and inexpensive.  I spent a few hours with Blender and  
could not

figure it out.

Regards,

Scott Rossi


Jim Ault
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Re: dropping to the Finder

[Terry Judd]

> If there's a simpler way to accomplish this I'd love to find it, but it
> would appear that Interarchy (and the many other FTP tools that use
> drag-and-drop) are getting info from the Finder to know which file to
> download their data into.

On OSX, what about querying the path of the front Finder window just before
the drop is made via applescript.

Try...

Tell application "Finder" to get (POSIX path of (target of front window as
alias))

Although dropping onto the desktop while other windows are open might give
you the wrong result and if the drag target is still in the background when
you make the drop you're in trouble as well.

Terry...

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Re: OT: Any recommendations for some Mac OS x Apps?

[Jeff Massung]

Cheetah is nice. I'm very fond of Silo3D, though:
http://www.nevercenter.com/, and one license works for all platforms.

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Scott Rossi  wrote:

>
> >> 3D animation: Blender
>
>
> For Mac 3D modeling, I've gotten into Cheetah3D:
> http://www.cheetah3d.com/
> Currently $149 (sometimes on sale for $99)
>
>
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Re: OT: Any recommendations for some Mac OS x Apps?

[Scott Rossi]

>> 3D animation: Blender


For Mac 3D modeling, I've gotten into Cheetah3D:
http://www.cheetah3d.com/
Currently $149 (sometimes on sale for $99)

I'm a 3D novice, but this has been relatively easy to understand with a nice
interface and inexpensive.  I spent a few hours with Blender and could not
figure it out.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design


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Re: dropping to the Finder

[Sarah Reichelt]

> That's what I have in place now as a workaround, but it's quite a drag to
> have to sacrifice consistent interactions:  we let folks upload via
> drag-and-drop, but make them go through that gawdawful file picker dialog to
> download, while other products do it so much more gracefully.

While being able to implement drag & drop properly would be great, my
work-around is to get the user to select a downloads folder, just like
a web browser does. Then any downloaded file just goes directly to the
selected download folder without having to use a file picker.

If you are implementing your plan of scanning the open windows, don't
forget the desktop, which may not show up as a window but will be a
popular recipient of a drag&drop operation.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: dropping to the Finder

[Richard Gaskin]

Jim Ault wrote:


On Feb 26, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:


I've used a few like that myself (GoLive and FileZilla work that
way). It may be just a Mac convention that supports this so well,
but I use Interarchy for FTP and it does a wonderful job of behaving
Finder-like:  I just drag the file name from its listing into the
Finder and it starts the download.  Beautiful, simple, lets the user
interact with their files directly in the context they're most
familiar with.


This is true Richard, but the Interarchy drag-drop interface drops
data that is recognized by the accepting app, such as the Finder, that
matches what the Finder is expecting.  In the case of moving files, it
would be the full path and it triggers the 'move file command' if on
the same drive, and 'copy file command' if on different volumes or
servers.

You task is more complex.  You are saying that you want your app to
receive a report back from the Finder that contains the location the
user chose.  This is not the normal semaphore unless you use
AppleScripting (which is Mac only of course).  Beyond that, you want
is to do work that the destination app may not understand, such as
build a text file and save it.


Actually, as an FTP app Interarchy is facing the same issue I am:  there 
is no file to move at the time the drop is made.  There's not even any 
data; it still needs to be downloaded.


If there's a simpler way to accomplish this I'd love to find it, but it 
would appear that Interarchy (and the many other FTP tools that use 
drag-and-drop) are getting info from the Finder to know which file to 
download their data into.


I don't know specifically what Interarchy is doing what it's doing under 
the hood, but I was able to turn up some Cocoa info on this which I 
included in my RQCC request:



From my brief reading in the Cocoa specs, it seems the 
namesOfPromisedFilesDroppedAtDestination part of the drop record 
returned to the drag source app contains the paths to the files the 
receiver promises to create.




As far as file listings, the [ls] command can be 'piped' to a text
file on the hard drive or an environmental memory variable for access
by your app.  The [ls] command will produce a list, and if you use
Google, I am sure you can locate a directory walk script out there
somewhere.


Traversing all files would take too long, but fortunately we only need 
to know about the folders that are open, and their subfolders.


Just to see how this might play out I ran a little test, with favorable 
results: getting "the files" from a dozen random folders containing a 
total of about 1200 files takes only 12 milliseconds on my 
three-year-old Mac (2.1GHz).


So even if it took 10 times as long that's still about a tenth of a 
second, plenty of time since we're responding to a user action.


Now the trick is to find a quick way to determine which folders are open.

As much as I appreciate Bob's posting the list of command line calls for 
OS X (thanks Bob) I didn't see one there that gives me a list of open 
folders - and that means AppleScript, and that means MUCH slower 
performance.  And it still doesn't provide a solution for Win and Linux. :(




My take would be that the user defines the destination by drag-drop to
your app, then you check permissions, and go forth.


That's what I have in place now as a workaround, but it's quite a drag 
to have to sacrifice consistent interactions:  we let folks upload via 
drag-and-drop, but make them go through that gawdawful file picker 
dialog to download, while other products do it so much more gracefully.


There must be a way

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Re: dropping to the Finder

[Jim Ault]

On Feb 26, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

I've used a few like that myself (GoLive and FileZilla work that  
way). It may be just a Mac convention that supports this so well,  
but I use Interarchy for FTP and it does a wonderful job of behaving  
Finder-like:  I just drag the file name from its listing into the  
Finder and it starts the download.  Beautiful, simple, lets the user  
interact with their files directly in the context they're most  
familiar with.



This is true Richard, but the Interarchy drag-drop interface drops  
data that is recognized by the accepting app, such as the Finder, that  
matches what the Finder is expecting.  In the case of moving files, it  
would be the full path and it triggers the 'move file command' if on  
the same drive, and 'copy file command' if on different volumes or  
servers.


You task is more complex.  You are saying that you want your app to  
receive a report back from the Finder that contains the location the  
user chose.  This is not the normal semaphore unless you use  
AppleScripting (which is Mac only of course).  Beyond that, you want  
is to do work that the destination app may not understand, such as  
build a text file and save it.


As far as file listings, the [ls] command can be 'piped' to a text  
file on the hard drive or an environmental memory variable for access  
by your app.  The [ls] command will produce a list, and if you use  
Google, I am sure you can locate a directory walk script out there  
somewhere.


My take would be that the user defines the destination by drag-drop to  
your app, then you check permissions, and go forth.


Hope this helps

Jim Ault
Las Vegas



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Re: HTTP DELETE

[Jim Ault]

You could build a utility CGI to delete files on a server in irev,  
revcgi, or php, pearl,   and not have to worry about authorization.


Jim Ault
Las Vegas

On Feb 26, 2010, at 10:17 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:


wow that actually works!?!

I thought you had to use raw sockets to do such things...

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Jan Schenkel  
 wrote:



--- On Fri, 2/26/10, David Bovill  wrote:

Is there any way to issue and HTTP
DELETE command from Rev natively (not
using curl?) - AFAIK this has not been added?



AFAIK, you can use a 'delete URL' command:
##
delete URL "http://www.runrev.com/index.html";
##
returns "error 405: method not allowed" - good thing you need the  
right

permissions to do this :-)
Depending on the server end, you'll either have to send the user and
password along in the url, or set the http headers to handle the
authentication.

HTH,

Jan Schenkel





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Re: OT: Any recommendations for some Mac OS x Apps?

[Jim Ault]

Very strong recommendation
FTP using RBrowser in free mode = FTP, without synchronization and  
some other features

Very powerful Mac interface
Drag and drop

Easy user interface for changing permissions.

One feature I like is double clicking a file in the FTP client that  
opens locally and then saves changes back to the FPT location.
Easy user interface for assigning the default app to open the file on  
your computer


Examples  a text file in TextEdit, PDFs in Preview, spreadsheets  
in Excel

   mp3 in iTunes, mov in QuickTime
   html in your favorite editor (mine is BBEdit)

While we are on the subject, there is a method for drag and drop on  
Mac OSX that most don't know about.

Let's say you wanted to upload 3 jpgs to the web server.
In the Finder hilight the files, click and begin dragging... now while  
holding down the mouse, use command-tab to change the application to  
your FTP app, continue dragging the correct folder, then release.


This works for any drag-drop operation between programs that are  
running on the Mac.



Jim Ault
Las Vegas



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Re: OT: Any recommendations for some Mac OS x Apps?

[runrev260805]

Thanks for all your recommendations. 
I you have more than let me (us) know. I will look into each recommendation.

Now only the Mac has to arrive here, then i can start.

Regards,

Matthias


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Subject: OT: Any recommendations for some Mac OS x Apps? (26-Feb-2010 17:50)
From:runrev260...@m-r-d.de
To:  runrev260...@m-r-d.de

> Dear All,
> 
> I am looking for some good alternatives for my existing windows apps, when 
> switching/extending  to MacOSx. 
> 
> Under Windows I use
> 
> Texteditor  :  Ultraedit
> IconEditor : IconWorkshop
> FTP Client  :  WsFTP 
> MySQL Frontend: HeidiSQL
> TextureTool  : Texturemaker
> 
> 
> I am also looking for a free Graphic program and a 3D animation program.
> 
> So are there any free or at least cheap MacOSx alternatives.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Matthias
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Re: OT: Any recommendations for some Mac OS x Apps?

[Richmond Mathewson]

On 26/02/2010 21:40, J. Landman Gay wrote:

Richmond Mathewson wrote:

3D animation: Blender

not that I've ever used it; it sits on my computer as a "must have" 


Forgot about that, I need to pick up a copy. It's supposed to be very 
good, but I hear it has a learning curve from hell, so I haven't 
tackled it yet.


Yes, well, as I am quite good at creating my own personal hell (see my 
Devawriter) I don't feel a great urge
to jump into another hell: better the devil you know than the devil you 
don't . . .  :)


Certainly the results are mind-blowing.
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Re: an annual calendar somewhere?

[zryip theSlug]

2010/2/26 Brian Yennie :
> According to the ncal docs, the country code has nothing to do with language, 
> just Gregorian dates:
>
>    -s country_code
>            Assume the switch from Julian to Gregorian Calendar at the date
>            associated with the country_code.  If not specified, ncal tries to
>            guess the switch date from the local environment or falls back to
>            September 2, 1752.  This was when Great Britain and her colonies
>            switched to the Gregorian Calendar.

You're right Brian. I confess that I've only read "country_code" and
thought it was a solution. Then I searched on forums the list of
available country code. I have seen an example in a forum and
concluded that I was in the good way...


2010/2/26 Yves COPPE :
> no, 10.5.7

Odds. In theory I'm not in a custom system. The ncal was definitively
not the solution ;)


2010/2/26 Andre.Bisseret :
> Thank you much Bob for this nice calendar.
> Also, thanks to the others who added comments, results of trials and
> elaborated.
> I was not waiting for such a "rush" on this topic ;-))
>
> However, my problem is not solved with this kind of layout. Mostly I need
> that the user be able to highlight periods of the year.
> For example periods when a holidays' house has been rented (or is plan to be
> rented).
>
> With the present layout that can't be done. One can't drag (in order to
> highlight)  from jan. 2 to jan 9 for example, or from jan. 30 to feb 6 etc
>
> That why I am looking for an annual calendar with 12 rows/lines, one for
> each month ( or might be 12 columns).

André,

Have a look to the work of David Beck:

http://www.rotundasoftware.com/rev/

He sent an announce on the list:

http://www.mail-archive.com/use-revolution@lists.runrev.com/msg129010.html


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Re: dropping to the Finder

[Bob Sneidar]

On Feb 26, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

> It's a lot of overhead, but provides so much usability that I'm willing to 
> give it a try if only I could find the shell commands to get that list of 
> open windows for OS X, Win, and Linux.
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Re: Project Euler

[Andre Garzia]

good question,

have you given the revlet network permissions?



On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote:

>
>
> Robert Brenstein wrote:
> >
> > revlet loading techniques? All I get is "plugin not loaded."
> >
>
> On my side of the web, double clicking one
> of the names of first card: Solutions Database
> shows all fields empty on second card: Test Solution.
>
> Why i am getting this error?
>
> Alejandro
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Re: Looking for volunteers to create Wikipedia on CD application

[Alejandro Tejada]

Hi David,


David Bovill-3 wrote:
> 
> Keep us in touch - going to think what would be useful
> 

Remember that, for this project, we could contribute 
Password protected libraries, for specific functions or 
features. In this way, your code is protected but still
available for use in this project.

Many thanks for your help!

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Re: OT: Any recommendations for some Mac OS x Apps?

[Richmond Mathewson]

Textures: Context Free, SeaShore,

   JTexSynth (java based)

2D animation: Pencil, ComiPro

Vector Graphics (as well as Inkscape and Expression 3): Drawberry,

Open Office DRAW is really very useful.

CinePaint

Over Dose of FREE image editors: Acorn, PixelMator, ImageWell,

ArtRage:

"ArtRage [is] the easy to use, stylish painting package that lets you 
get painting from the moment you open it up. You can paint with oils, 
sketch with pencils, sprinkle glitter, and more. You can paint with gold 
leaf, silver foil, and other metallic colors. You can even load in your 
photos as Tracing Images to help you recreate them as paintings.
Each of the tools in ArtRage is designed to work like its real world 
counterpart (minus the smell of paint thinners, and that piece of 
glitter you just can't get out of the carpet).
Thick paint smears and blends, pencils and chalks smudge, and markers 
work just like they do in the real world. Many of the tools can be 
adjusted to give different effects.
ArtRage makes it easy to recreate photos or other images using its paint 
tools. When you load a Tracing Image the original is projected on to 
your canvas so that you can use it as a guide while you sketch and paint.

Guide Comments:

ArtRage started out as a free program for Windows only, but as new 
features were added and a Mac version was developed, it was offered for 
sale--very reasonably at US$19.95. The Free Edition lives on however, 
with some full version features disabled."


DON'T spend money on Mac Software; once you have the machine and the 
operating system

pretty well everything else should be FREE.
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Re: OT: Any recommendations for some Mac OS x Apps?

[J. Landman Gay]

Richmond Mathewson wrote:

3D animation: Blender

not that I've ever used it; it sits on my computer as a "must have" 


Forgot about that, I need to pick up a copy. It's supposed to be very 
good, but I hear it has a learning curve from hell, so I haven't tackled 
it yet.


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Re: Project Euler

[Alejandro Tejada]

Robert Brenstein wrote:
> 
> revlet loading techniques? All I get is "plugin not loaded."
> 

On my side of the web, double clicking one
of the names of first card: Solutions Database
shows all fields empty on second card: Test Solution.

Why i am getting this error?

Alejandro 
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Re: OT: Any recommendations for some Mac OS x Apps?

[Richmond Mathewson]

3D animation: Blender

not that I've ever used it; it sits on my computer as a "must have" 
(have you

seen 'Big Buck Bunny' yet?

http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/index.php/download/  )

It's marvellous!
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Re: Playing sound in revWeb revlet

[Alejandro Tejada]

Klaus on-rev wrote:
> 
> I always use the AU format, which never failed for me
> and I even got this working in a Revlet with "play ac xyz.au"
> 

Yes, this works fine.

I use the command line application: Sox
http://sox.sourceforge.net/
to convert various audio formats to compressed AU

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Re: How Dr. Seuss Might Explain Computer Crashes

[Alejandro Tejada]

Really funny!
Post this in a webpage,
so many people could
read and get a laugh. :-)

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Re: OT: Any recommendations for some Mac OS x Apps?

[J. Landman Gay]

runrev260...@m-r-d.de wrote:

Dear All,

I am looking for some good alternatives for my existing windows apps, when switching/extending  to MacOSx. 


Under Windows I use

Texteditor  :  Ultraedit
IconEditor : IconWorkshop
FTP Client  :  WsFTP 
MySQL Frontend: HeidiSQL

TextureTool  : Texturemaker


I use Graphic Converter for graphics. You can use it free if you are 
willing to put up with a 10-second startup nag screen. GC will open over 
100 different kinds of image files from any platform, which is a big 
advantage. The latest version has a minimal texture-creation capability. 
Its major restriction is that it does not fully support layers yet, so 
if you need layering then you'll probably have to use GIMP.


I also use:

TextEditor: BBEdit (TextWrangler is the free version)
IconEditor: Icon Composer (Apple's free utility)
FTP Client: Fetch

Fetch is not free but is inexpensive. It mimics the Finder interface 
exactly, lets you drag and drop files, allows you to edit files directly 
on the server if you have compatible editing apps (very handy,) uses the 
same keyboard shortcuts as Finder, and more. I like it a lot.



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Re: Ideas to simulate a multithreaded sockets server

[Marcio Alexandroni]

Hello Andre,

Thank you for your ideas. It's good to know there are more Brazilians
here... 

The applications runs pure TCP/IP with a custom protocol to exchange data
and it handles dozens of simultaneous calls at the same time, this is why it
must be multithreaded, the queuing will not work in this case because of the
time it would need to respond to the last caller.

Anyway, can you explain a little bit more about the CGI idea and the
portable server? 

Thank you.

PS: moro em Bragança Paulista/SP. Assisti a um video seu, acho que foi da
conferência 08. Abraço.

Marcio Alexandroni
www.cialogica.com.br
 ( (11) 9989-8316
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> From: Andre Garzia 
> Reply-To: How to use Revolution 
> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:15:39 -0300
> To: How to use Revolution 
> Subject: Re: Ideas to simulate a multithreaded sockets server
> 
> Oi Marcio,
> 
> I think you're now officially the second Brazilian using Revolution. Right
> now Rev is single threaded and that is all. What you could build is a pool
> of Rev processes coordinated by a master process. So you could have a Linux
> standalone launch multiple socket servers and then play the role of proxy
> relaying the connection to them. This would involve changing your protocol
> since we can't really delegate a connection to another process, you'd need
> to reply to the client with something like: "hey connect again on port
> something" and it would reconnect using one of the socket servers.
> 
> I don't know your application logic, but if your socket server acts fast
> enough then some queueing is not that bad.
> 
> In the meanwhile, if you're doing your logic on top of HTTP, why not use a
> simple portable server and Rev based CGI, this would solve the problem (and
> propose new ones as you'd need to handle the statelessness)
> 
> Cheers
> andre
> PS: Você é de sampa né?
> 
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Marcio Alexandroni > wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm currently building a new version of a product that has 3 modules:
>> 
>> * A sockets server that operates the application logic.
>> * The administration module which communicates with the server using
>> sockets
>> to set properties.
>> * The PDA module that is actually what users interact and that also
>> communicates with the server using sockets.
>> 
>> Today I have the server and administration modules written in Delphi and
>> Palm/WinMo solutions on the PDAs.
>> 
>> It would be very, very interesting if I could have a server that I could
>> deploy on Windows, Linux or Mac machines, so I built a "test" version in
>> Rev, but I found it does not handle multiple requests, but queues and
>> process one at a time, which is not suitable for this solution.
>> 
>> I've been thinking if there is any way to overcome this situation, perhaps
>> launching a separate process for each connection, passing the client
>> address
>> to this new process, this way I could return immediately from the handler,
>> letting it process the queue, while the process actually handles the
>> request
>> and feedback to the client.
>> 
>> Does anyone have any idea if starting multiple Rev subprocesses is possible
>> or perhaps any other idea on how to do this concurrent handling in Rev?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Marcio Alexandroni
>>  ( (+55 11) 9989-8316
>> Brazil
>> Skype: marcioalexandroni
>> --
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Re: dropping to the Finder

[Richard Gaskin]

Jeff Massung wrote:


On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

...

But as Jan suggested, how do most FTP clients work?  In Interarchy I can
drop to any folder and it works great.  I'd like to be able to do something
similar - there must be a way.


Sorry, Richard, perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but most FTP clients aren't
doing anything special that I'm aware of. Usually it's the target
application's responsibility to know what to do with whatever is dropped on
it.

I was under the impression that you wanted to know where it was dropped and
then begin to do some work (like combing all the files into a single zip)
and then perform the transfer.

As an example of what I'm thinking, if I browse to an image in FireFox, and
then drag the image to my desktop, FireFox isn't doing anything here (that
I'm aware of) other than creating a drag object containing data that points
to the image's URL. Explorer (or the Finder on Mac) is then responsible for
accepting the drag data of that type and handling it appropriately (in this
case, starting either a download or creating an alias/shortcut to the
hyperlink location).

This is my very cursory understanding of this, though. I haven't worked with
a lot of FTP clients, and the ones I have had 2 directory trees: local and
report, and I dragged and dropped within the application.


I've used a few like that myself (GoLive and FileZilla work that way). 
It may be just a Mac convention that supports this so well, but I use 
Interarchy for FTP and it does a wonderful job of behaving Finder-like: 
 I just drag the file name from its listing into the Finder and it 
starts the download.  Beautiful, simple, lets the user interact with 
their files directly in the context they're most familiar with.




On Win32 I know you can also hook into the messages sent to another
window/process (not sure about OS X). It's possible some of the applications
you have used in the past do this and when they receive a remote file drop
event they end up sending a message back to the main application to initiate
the transfer.


Exactly.  I'm not sure what the API looks like for Win and Linux, but I 
was able to turn up the Cocoa API and posted it to a new RQCC request to 
extend the dragDestination to include a list of file paths when dragging 
to the Finder, Windows Explorer, or Linux file manager:





In the meantime I thought of a crude hack:

If I had a shell call to get the paths of all open windows, I could 
cache the file listings from each into an array, do the drag, and after 
the drop check the file listings again, comparing them to the ones I've 
cached until I find the one in which the change is the name of the file 
I've dragged.


It's a lot of overhead, but provides so much usability that I'm willing 
to give it a try if only I could find the shell commands to get that 
list of open windows for OS X, Win, and Linux.


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Re: HTTP DELETE

[Andre Garzia]

wow that actually works!?!

I thought you had to use raw sockets to do such things...

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Jan Schenkel  wrote:

> --- On Fri, 2/26/10, David Bovill  wrote:
> > Is there any way to issue and HTTP
> > DELETE command from Rev natively (not
> > using curl?) - AFAIK this has not been added?
> >
>
> AFAIK, you can use a 'delete URL' command:
> ##
> delete URL "http://www.runrev.com/index.html";
> ##
> returns "error 405: method not allowed" - good thing you need the right
> permissions to do this :-)
> Depending on the server end, you'll either have to send the user and
> password along in the url, or set the http headers to handle the
> authentication.
>
> HTH,
>
> Jan Schenkel
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>
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Re: Ideas to simulate a multithreaded sockets server

[Andre Garzia]

Oi Marcio,

I think you're now officially the second Brazilian using Revolution. Right
now Rev is single threaded and that is all. What you could build is a pool
of Rev processes coordinated by a master process. So you could have a Linux
standalone launch multiple socket servers and then play the role of proxy
relaying the connection to them. This would involve changing your protocol
since we can't really delegate a connection to another process, you'd need
to reply to the client with something like: "hey connect again on port
something" and it would reconnect using one of the socket servers.

I don't know your application logic, but if your socket server acts fast
enough then some queueing is not that bad.

In the meanwhile, if you're doing your logic on top of HTTP, why not use a
simple portable server and Rev based CGI, this would solve the problem (and
propose new ones as you'd need to handle the statelessness)

Cheers
andre
PS: Você é de sampa né?

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Marcio Alexandroni  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm currently building a new version of a product that has 3 modules:
>
> * A sockets server that operates the application logic.
> * The administration module which communicates with the server using
> sockets
> to set properties.
> * The PDA module that is actually what users interact and that also
> communicates with the server using sockets.
>
> Today I have the server and administration modules written in Delphi and
> Palm/WinMo solutions on the PDAs.
>
> It would be very, very interesting if I could have a server that I could
> deploy on Windows, Linux or Mac machines, so I built a "test" version in
> Rev, but I found it does not handle multiple requests, but queues and
> process one at a time, which is not suitable for this solution.
>
> I've been thinking if there is any way to overcome this situation, perhaps
> launching a separate process for each connection, passing the client
> address
> to this new process, this way I could return immediately from the handler,
> letting it process the queue, while the process actually handles the
> request
> and feedback to the client.
>
> Does anyone have any idea if starting multiple Rev subprocesses is possible
> or perhaps any other idea on how to do this concurrent handling in Rev?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Marcio Alexandroni
>  ( (+55 11) 9989-8316
> Brazil
> Skype: marcioalexandroni
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RE: relaunch anomaly

[Paul D. DeRocco]

> From: Mark Schonewille
>
> This script might help you: http://qurl.tk/60 (mind line wraps on the
> website).
>
> Since it is now possible to sun VBScript woth the do command, you
> might take the script apart and only use
>
>put tVBS & cr & "WshShell.AppActivate" && pTitleOrID into tVBS
>
> and
>
>put tVBS & cr & "WshShell.AppActivate" && quote & pTitleOrID &
> quote into tVBS

Thanks. Looks promising. I'm surprised there isn't a Rev command for this
though.

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Ideas to simulate a multithreaded sockets server

[Marcio Alexandroni]

Hi,

I'm currently building a new version of a product that has 3 modules:

* A sockets server that operates the application logic.
* The administration module which communicates with the server using sockets
to set properties. 
* The PDA module that is actually what users interact and that also
communicates with the server using sockets.

Today I have the server and administration modules written in Delphi and
Palm/WinMo solutions on the PDAs.

It would be very, very interesting if I could have a server that I could
deploy on Windows, Linux or Mac machines, so I built a "test" version in
Rev, but I found it does not handle multiple requests, but queues and
process one at a time, which is not suitable for this solution.

I've been thinking if there is any way to overcome this situation, perhaps
launching a separate process for each connection, passing the client address
to this new process, this way I could return immediately from the handler,
letting it process the queue, while the process actually handles the request
and feedback to the client.

Does anyone have any idea if starting multiple Rev subprocesses is possible
or perhaps any other idea on how to do this concurrent handling in Rev?

Thanks in advance.

Marcio Alexandroni
 ( (+55 11) 9989-8316
Brazil
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Re: HTTP DELETE

[Jan Schenkel]

--- On Fri, 2/26/10, David Bovill  wrote:
> Is there any way to issue and HTTP
> DELETE command from Rev natively (not
> using curl?) - AFAIK this has not been added?
> 

AFAIK, you can use a 'delete URL' command:
##
delete URL "http://www.runrev.com/index.html";
##
returns "error 405: method not allowed" - good thing you need the right 
permissions to do this :-)
Depending on the server end, you'll either have to send the user and password 
along in the url, or set the http headers to handle the authentication.

HTH,

Jan Schenkel
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How Dr. Seuss Might Explain Computer Crashes

[Bob G]

*How Dr. Seuss Might Explain Computer Crashes *

If a packet hits a pocket on a socket on a port,
and the bus is interrupted at a very last resort,
and the access of the memory makes your disk drive to abort,
then the socket packet pocket has an error to report.

If your cursor finds a menu item followed by a dash,
and the double-clicking icon puts your window in the trash,
and your data is corrupted 'cause the index doesn't hash,
then your situation's hopeless and your system's gonna crash!

If the label on the cable on the table at your house
says the network is connected to the button on your mouse,
but your packets want to tunnel to another protocol,
that's repeatedly rejected by the printer down the hall,
and your screen is all distorted by the side effects of Gauss,
so your icons in the window are as wavy as a souse;
then you may as well reboot and go out with a bang,
‘cuz sure as I'm a poet, the sucker's gonna hang!

When the copy of your floppy's getting sloppy in the disk,
and the macro code instructions cause unnecessary risk,
then you'll have to flash the memory
and you'll want to RAM your ROM.
Quickly turn off the computer and be sure to tell your Mom!
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Re: OT: Any recommendations for some Mac OS x Apps?

[Jerry Daniels]

Matthias,

I have only one recommendation:

I use Interachy FTP client on Mac OS. Andre recommended it to me. It's  
not free, but it works SO much like the finder and its drag-n-drop is  
very, very convenient for moving files or entire directories from one  
site to another.


A few years back, I switched to Mac for my main dev machine. This was  
during the XP years. My main reason was to reduce wear and tear on my  
eyes and get another two hours of coding done a day. Since then, Vista  
was a lot easier to look at, but had other problems we all know about.  
Windows 7 has a lot of promise, but not enough to make me switch—yet.


Best,

Jerry Daniels

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On Feb 26, 2010, at 10:47 AM, runrev260...@m-r-d.de wrote:


Dear All,

I am looking for some good alternatives for my existing windows  
apps, when switching/extending  to MacOSx.


Under Windows I use

Texteditor  :  Ultraedit
IconEditor : IconWorkshop
FTP Client  :  WsFTP
MySQL Frontend: HeidiSQL
TextureTool  : Texturemaker


I am also looking for a free Graphic program and a 3D animation  
program.


So are there any free or at least cheap MacOSx alternatives.

Best regards,

Matthias


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Re: dropping to the Finder

[Jeff Massung]

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Richard Gaskin  wrote:

> Jeff Massung wrote:
>
>  On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>>
>>> In one of my apps I have a list of things I'd like folks to be able to
>>> drag
>>> to the Finder, and then when they're dropped I'll assemble the needed
>>> parts
>>> and write them to a file at the drag destination.
>>>
>>> I can't figure out how to get the path where the user dropped.
>>>
>>
>> To my knowledge that's impossible (on every OS). As I understand the
>> drag/drop paradigm, you can't see where something is dropped to if the
>> target is another application.
>>
>
> But as Jan suggested, how do most FTP clients work?  In Interarchy I can
> drop to any folder and it works great.  I'd like to be able to do something
> similar - there must be a way.
>


Sorry, Richard, perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but most FTP clients aren't
doing anything special that I'm aware of. Usually it's the target
application's responsibility to know what to do with whatever is dropped on
it.

I was under the impression that you wanted to know where it was dropped and
then begin to do some work (like combing all the files into a single zip)
and then perform the transfer.

As an example of what I'm thinking, if I browse to an image in FireFox, and
then drag the image to my desktop, FireFox isn't doing anything here (that
I'm aware of) other than creating a drag object containing data that points
to the image's URL. Explorer (or the Finder on Mac) is then responsible for
accepting the drag data of that type and handling it appropriately (in this
case, starting either a download or creating an alias/shortcut to the
hyperlink location).

This is my very cursory understanding of this, though. I haven't worked with
a lot of FTP clients, and the ones I have had 2 directory trees: local and
report, and I dragged and dropped within the application.

On Win32 I know you can also hook into the messages sent to another
window/process (not sure about OS X). It's possible some of the applications
you have used in the past do this and when they receive a remote file drop
event they end up sending a message back to the main application to initiate
the transfer.

Jeff M.
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HTTP DELETE

[David Bovill]

Is there any way to issue and HTTP DELETE command from Rev natively (not
using curl?) - AFAIK this has not been added?
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Re: OT: Any recommendations for some Mac OS x Apps?

[Richmond Mathewson]

QUITE!
I'll bet Richmond will chime in. He is the champ of finding free apps. 
:-)


Graphics: Inkscape (Vector), Microsoft Expression 3 (Vector) , GIMP, 
Paintbrush, Pixen (animated GIFs)


3d: DAZStudio, MakeHuman, Terragen, Sweet Home 3D

Office: Open Office, Neooffice, Abiword, OOo4Kids

Text: TextWrangler, Aquamacs Emacs

Project Management: GanttPV, GanttProject

Audio: Audacity, Ardour, Plarpebu (karaoke)

Calendar: SunBird

E-mail: ThunderBird

Web Work: KompoZer, Amaya

FTP: CyberDuck

3d Animation: Got me there.


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Re: OT: Any recommendations for some Mac OS x Apps?

[Klaus on-rev]

Hi Matthias,

here my personal list of equivalent Mac apps:

> Dear All,
> 
> I am looking for some good alternatives for my existing windows apps, when 
> switching/extending  to MacOSx. 
> Under Windows I use
> Texteditor  :  Ultraedit
TextWrangler, free


> IconEditor : IconWorkshop
Any image editing tool for creation of the the necessary PNG graphics and
"IconComposer" from the Apple Developer Tools, which are free after free 
registration at Apple.

> FTP Client  :  WsFTP 
I paid 20,- Euro for Captain FTP, but there is CyberDuck, a free alternative:


> MySQL Frontend: HeidiSQL
SeQueL Pro, free


> TextureTool  : Texturemaker
Sorry, no idea.

> I am also looking for a free Graphic program
e.g. GIMP, free, still needs X11


> and a 3D animation program.
Blender, free


> So are there any free or at least cheap MacOSx alternatives.

Except Blender and GIMP I use all of these apps in my works.

> Best regards,
> 
> Matthias

Best

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Re: OT: Any recommendations for some Mac OS x Apps?

[Devin Asay]

Matthais,

Here's what I use; others will surely have other suggestions.

On Feb 26, 2010, at 9:47 AM, runrev260...@m-r-d.de wrote:


Dear All,

I am looking for some good alternatives for my existing windows  
apps, when switching/extending  to MacOSx.


Under Windows I use

Texteditor  :  Ultraedit

Free TextEdit that comes with OS X
	Free TextWrangler from barebones software (the "lite" version of  
BBedit.)

BBedit if you want to buy something high-end.


IconEditor : IconWorkshop
 	Free Icon Composer that comes with Apple's free developer tool,  
XCode.



FTP Client  :  WsFTP
	Fetch - free to education users, but I don't know how much  
commercially.



MySQL Frontend: HeidiSQL

I use PHPMyAdmin, a free browser-based interface.


TextureTool  : Texturemaker


No idea.



I am also looking for a free Graphic program and a 3D animation  
program.


I don't use it, but probably Gimp?


So are there any free or at least cheap MacOSx alternatives.


I'll bet Richmond will chime in. He is the champ of finding free  
apps. :-)


Regards,

Devin

Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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OT: Any recommendations for some Mac OS x Apps?

[runrev260805]

Dear All,

I am looking for some good alternatives for my existing windows apps, when 
switching/extending  to MacOSx. 

Under Windows I use

Texteditor  :  Ultraedit
IconEditor : IconWorkshop
FTP Client  :  WsFTP 
MySQL Frontend: HeidiSQL
TextureTool  : Texturemaker


I am also looking for a free Graphic program and a 3D animation program.

So are there any free or at least cheap MacOSx alternatives.

Best regards,

Matthias


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Re: dropping to the Finder

[Richard Gaskin]

Jeff Massung wrote:


On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

In one of my apps I have a list of things I'd like folks to be able to drag
to the Finder, and then when they're dropped I'll assemble the needed parts
and write them to a file at the drag destination.

I can't figure out how to get the path where the user dropped.


To my knowledge that's impossible (on every OS). As I understand the
drag/drop paradigm, you can't see where something is dropped to if the
target is another application.


But as Jan suggested, how do most FTP clients work?  In Interarchy I can 
drop to any folder and it works great.  I'd like to be able to do 
something similar - there must be a way.



You may want to consider trying a different paradigm if you need to do some
processing after the drag operation completes. For example, you could
either:

* Drag a folder from the finder into your app and use that as the
destination or
* Select the files and use "ask file" to save the "operation" to a target
location.

Just some thoughts.


I may have to resort to something like that in the short term.  What a 
drag (pun intended).


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Re: dropping to the Finder

[Jeff Massung]

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Richard Gaskin  wrote:

> In one of my apps I have a list of things I'd like folks to be able to drag
> to the Finder, and then when they're dropped I'll assemble the needed parts
> and write them to a file at the drag destination.
>
> I can't figure out how to get the path where the user dropped.
>


Richard,

To my knowledge that's impossible (on every OS). As I understand the
drag/drop paradigm, you can't see where something is dropped to if the
target is another application.

You may want to consider trying a different paradigm if you need to do some
processing after the drag operation completes. For example, you could
either:

* Drag a folder from the finder into your app and use that as the
destination or
* Select the files and use "ask file" to save the "operation" to a target
location.

Just some thoughts.

Jeff M.
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Re: dropping to the Finder

[Jan Schenkel]

--- On Fri, 2/26/10, Richard Gaskin  wrote:
> In one of my apps I have a list of
> things I'd like folks to be able to drag to the Finder, and
> then when they're dropped I'll assemble the needed parts and
> write them to a file at the drag destination.
> 
> I can't figure out how to get the path where the user
> dropped.
> 
> Did I miss something obvious?  I hope so.
> 
> TIA -
> 
> --
>  Richard Gaskin
> 

Unfortunately, you can't get the drag destination for such a drag'n'drop 
operation.
The only workaround I've found so far, is to actually already write the data to 
a temporary file in the dragStart event, and set the dragData["file"] to the 
path of this temporary file - finally, in dragEnd, check if the temp file is 
still there and delete it.

While that's ok for small data files, it makes it difficult to write an FTP 
client where the user can drag a remote file to his local machine...

Jan Schenkel
=
Quartam Reports & PDF Library for Revolution


=
"As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time."  (La 
Rochefoucauld)




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dropping to the Finder

[Richard Gaskin]

In one of my apps I have a list of things I'd like folks to be able to 
drag to the Finder, and then when they're dropped I'll assemble the 
needed parts and write them to a file at the drag destination.


I can't figure out how to get the path where the user dropped.

Did I miss something obvious?  I hope so.

TIA -

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Re: scrolling groups and magic mouse?

[Björnke von Gierke]

In a field put this script, then swipe away:

on rawkeydown theKey
   put theKey --a number
   pass rawkeydown
end rawkeydown


in your group do this then swipe away:

on rawkeydown theKey
   if thekey =  then
  set the scroll of me to the scroll of me +2
   else if theKey =  then
  set the scroll of me to the scroll of me -2
   end if
   put the scroll of me
end rawkeydown


bjoernke

ps: 65308,65309


On 26 Feb 2010, at 15:38, Geoff Canyon Rev wrote:

> fields seem to respond to swipe-scrolling with the magic mouse just
> fine, but groups with scrollbars don't. Is there a way to fix that?
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[ANN] tRev gets fixes and fine tuning!

[Jerry Daniels]

tRevors,

Here's what we got this week:

- Wrapping no longer gets turned off when using Decoder.
- Clicking handler links no longer mishandles the current selection.
- Closing a tab within a group of tabs no longer misnames the BROWSER  
tab.

- Scratch Pad resizes after saving a stack file from the Browser.

Updates available for registered users.

Big stuff in the works for next week!

Stay tuned...

Jerry Daniels

The latest Rev Editor Video:
http://reveditor.com/background-tabs-open-a-tab-without-going-ther

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scrolling groups and magic mouse?

[Geoff Canyon Rev]

fields seem to respond to swipe-scrolling with the magic mouse just
fine, but groups with scrollbars don't. Is there a way to fix that?
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Datagrids and Google Spreadsheets

[David Bovill]

I have been meaning to do this for a while now - finally got a good excuse
to play with gData and Rev :)

Before starting this was interested to see if anyone has already worked on
this, or is interested in learning / experimenting / working on it. The aim
is to be able to have 2 way communication between a google spread sheet and
a datagrid table (ie creation and writing to spread sheets and reading from
spreadsheets to be displayed by a datagrid).

Trevor if you are listening - have you any scripts for extracting XML from
datagrids that I could customise - I'm working with a version of your
generic array to xml code - just wandering if you have any updates designed
to work with data grids?
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Re: an annual calendar somewhere?

[Richard Gaskin]

FWIW, here's a a function I pulled out of my archives which is a sort of 
variant of Cal in native RevTalk, making a single month from a date 
passed to it.  I'll leave it as an exercise to the user to make a year 
out of it if needed.


One of the nice things about RevTalk is that the weekDayNames and 
monthNames functions return values in the current system's local 
language, so this is localized without having to do anything.


Interestingly, without the overhead involved in going to shell it's 
about 20 times faster on my machine than calling shell("cal").



function Cal pDate
  -- Returns a plain-text calendar representation of
  -- the month the date specified in pDate is in.
  -- If no month is provided it uses the current
  -- month. Month and day names use the user's current
  -- system settings.
  --
  -- Use current date as default:
  if pDate is empty then put the date into pDate
  -- Verify date is valid:
  convert pDate to dateitems
  if the result is not empty then return "Error: "& the result
  --
  put empty into tCal
  --
  -- Make month/year header:
  put item 1 of pDate into tYear
  put line (item 2 of pDate) of the monthNames into tMonth
  put tMonth && tYear into tHeader
  -- Center it:
  repeat for ( (20 - len(tHeader)) div 2)
put " " after tCal
  end repeat
  put tHeader &cr after tCal
  --
  -- Make day names header:
  put the abbr weekdayNames into tWeekdayNames
  repeat for each line tDay in tWeekdayNames
put char 1 to 2 of tDay &" " after tCal
  end repeat
  put cr after tCal
  --
  -- Pad beginning with empty days:
  put tMonth && "1"&& tYear into tStartDay
  convert tStartDay to dateitems
  repeat for (last item of tStartDay - 1)
put "   " after tCal
  end repeat
  --
  -- Walk through 31 days, stopping when we reach a
  -- number not valid for the month we're doing:
  repeat with i = 1 to 31
-- Get day number:
put tMonth &&i&& tYear into tDate
convert tDate to dateitems
if the result is not empty then exit repeat
put item 3 of tDate into tDayNum
--
-- Pad it and add it:
if len(i) = 1 then put " " before i
put i &" " after tCal
--
-- Go to next line if we're at the end of the week:
if last item of tDate = 7 then put cr after tCal
  end repeat
  --
  -- Pad empty lines at end for uniform appearance
  -- when using multiple calendars in a field:
  repeat for (8-the number of lines of tCal)
put cr after tCal
  end repeat
  --
  -- Send it to the caller:
  return tCal
end Cal



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Re: Test, please ignore

[Thomas McGrath III]

ignored...

On Feb 25, 2010, at 10:09 PM, Paul D. DeRocco wrote:

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Re: Conference-DVDs arrived

[Petrides, M.D. Marian]

For the record, when I emailed Kevin directly as he asked those of us  
who had not yet received our DVDs, he responded immediately and is  
making things right.  I am now a happy camper, since I'll be getting  
my DVDs soon (with a promise from Kevin directly, not from a shipper  
that clearly wasn't doing his job).


Oh, and Kevin promised they won't be using that particular shipper  
again--phew!


Marian
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Re: an annual calendar somewhere?

[Andre.Bisseret]

Thank you much Bob for this nice calendar.
Also, thanks to the others who added comments, results of trials and  
elaborated.

I was not waiting for such a "rush" on this topic ;-))

However, my problem is not solved with this kind of layout. Mostly I  
need that the user be able to highlight periods of the year.
For example periods when a holidays' house has been rented (or is plan  
to be rented).


With the present layout that can't be done. One can't drag (in order  
to highlight)  from jan. 2 to jan 9 for example, or from jan. 30 to  
feb 6 etc


That why I am looking for an annual calendar with 12 rows/lines, one  
for each month ( or might be 12 columns).



Best regards from Grenoble (by the way, I joined the runrev folks  
google map ;-)


André







Le 25 févr. 10 à 20:45, Robert Cole a écrit :


André:
On Mac OS X, I use a simple shell command to put the calendar into a  
field .

put shell("cal 2010") into field "Calendar Field"
Be sure to use a monospace font like Courier in the field
Bob
- - - - - - -
Bonjour,
I need an annual calendar, one which could be display entirely on one
card of a stack.
Something like 12 rows, one for each months.

Does someone know if that has already been done with runrev and if it
is possible to get it somewhere?

Thanks a lot in advance for any clue

Best regards from Grenoble

André
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Re: Looking for volunteers to create Wikipedia on CD application

[David Bovill]

Keep us in touch - going to think what would be useful

On 22 February 2010 14:29, Alejandro Tejada  wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> Björnke von Gierke wrote:
>
> Björnke von Gierke wrote:
> >
> > including media installers is allowed by runrev,
> > but of course one should ask em beforehand.
> >
>
> Kevin answered this request:
>
> on Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 1:58 PM
> Kevin Miller wrote:
> > That would be fine. Sounds like a great project, best of luck with it!
> > Kind regards,
> > Kevin
>
> Who could volunteer to create a list of tutorials and Demos
> that should be included in this project "Wikipedia on CD/DVD"
> to introduce RevTalk to a wider audience and many potential
> developers?
>
> Notice that we must ask for permission to every author
> to include their work in this project.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Alejandro
>
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Re: an annual calendar somewhere? - French Version

[Francis Nugent Dixon]

Hi from Beautiful Brittany,

I played with "zryip theSlug's" code for all of
30 seconds, replace ncal command by "cal 2010",
corrected the line ending errors, corrected the
month of August, and it all works fine for me.
I'm on 10.5.8.

Merci Monsieur "zryip theSlug"

Francis


on mouseUp
  local tTheCal, tTheMonth, tTheFrenchMonth, tTheDay, tTheFrenchDay

  put  
"January 
,February 
,March 
,April,May,June,July,August,September,October,November,December"  
into tTheMonth
  put  
"Janvier 
,Février 
,Mars 
,Avril,Mai,Juin,Juillet,Août,Septembre,Octobre,Novembre,Décembre"  
into tTheFrenchMonth

  put "Mo,Tu,We,Th,Fr,Sa,Su" into tTheDay
  put "Lu,Ma,Me,Je,Ve,Sa,Di" into tTheFrenchDay

  put shell("cal 2010") into tTheCal

  -- Translate month
  repeat with x = 1 to number of items in tTheMonth
 replace (item x of tTheMonth) with (item x of tTheFrenchMonth)  
in tTheCal

  end repeat

  -- Translate day
  repeat with x = 1 to number of items in tTheDay
 replace (item x of tTheDay) with (item x of tTheFrenchDay) in  
tTheCal

  end repeat

  put tTheCal into fld "MyCal"

end mouseUp








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Re: RunRevLive.10: 72 hours left to save

[Heather Nagey]

Bill was a professional. Perhaps to the point where it contributed to  
his death. He continued to work and refused to go into hospital at one  
point despite both Kevin and I begging him to do so, because he had  
work deadlines to meet. He went to the emergency room after he had  
completed the work.


We miss him here. He has left a hole in RunRev and in our personal  
lives.


Heather

On 26 Feb 2010, at 04:02, Alejandro Tejada wrote:


Kevin Miller wrote:

Bill was sick for a long time before he died


This means that Bill was already feeling sick,
when he participated in this mail list, last december.

Nothing in the messages that he wrote, could
have suggested his health problems.
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Re: RunRevLive.10: 72 hours left to save

[Richmond Mathewson]

On 26/02/2010 06:02, Alejandro Tejada wrote:

Kevin Miller wrote:
   

Bill was sick for a long time before he died
 

This means that Bill was already feeling sick,
when he participated in this mail list, last december.

Nothing in the messages that he wrote, could
have suggested his health problems.
   


I met him is Edinburgh at the conference; frankly
he didn't look all that healthy. However he wasn't
giving anything away and was truly professional.

A marvellous chap who we are all the poorer for
as a result of his passing.
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Re: relaunch anomaly

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Paul,

This script might help you: http://qurl.tk/60 (mind line wraps on the  
website).


Since it is now possible to sun VBScript woth the do command, you  
might take the script apart and only use


  put tVBS & cr & "WshShell.AppActivate" && pTitleOrID into tVBS

and

  put tVBS & cr & "WshShell.AppActivate" && quote & pTitleOrID &  
quote into tVBS


--
Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer

Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new software development  
projects. Feel free to contact me for a quote.


Op 26 feb 2010, om 06:16 heeft Paul D. DeRocco het volgende geschreven:

The docs say that not passing the relaunch event, and not returning  
anything
from the event, causes the new instance to terminate and the old  
instance to
become the foreground window. When I do this under WinXP, everything  
works

as advertised, including passing the command line parameter to the old
instance so that it opens the appropriate document file, except that  
the
window remains in the background. Is this something that varies with  
OS

version? Is there some Revolution command to force the old instance to
become the foreground window anyway?

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