Create HTML file from rev app

[William de Smet]

Hi there all,

It's been a while since my last question but working hard on some apps.
For my daily job I needed a quick app to create a HTML file. In the
app I have some fields and in one of them I put a URL (just
www.domainname.com).
In some hidden fields I put the needed HTML and the all come together
when I save the file.
All works fine but when I look at the sourcecode in IE8 or Safari the
HTML isn't completely correct.
In a link it misses the quotes (") at the beginning or the end of the URL.

What I do is this:
put  "http://"  & fld "link" & "  & target="& _blank &" >"
& fld "link" &"" &  "<"&"br/"&">"  &  "<"&"br/"&">" after tData

I also tried this but that doesn't works either:
put  "http://";  & fld "link" & """ &"  &
target="& """ & blank & """ &" >" & fld "titel" &""
after tData
(the " isn't translated then into a quote)

I start the HTML file with:
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd";>
http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml";>


Anyone knows why I don't get the qoute?
And is there a way to get them?


Greetings,

William
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Re: Create HTML file from rev app

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi William,

You got it almost right:

"http://";  & fld "link" & quote & " target=" & quote & 
"_blank" & quote & " >" & fld "link" &"" after tData


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On 25 aug 2010, at 10:03, William de Smet wrote:

> Hi there all,
> 
> It's been a while since my last question but working hard on some apps.
> For my daily job I needed a quick app to create a HTML file. In the
> app I have some fields and in one of them I put a URL (just
> www.domainname.com).
> In some hidden fields I put the needed HTML and the all come together
> when I save the file.
> All works fine but when I look at the sourcecode in IE8 or Safari the
> HTML isn't completely correct.
> In a link it misses the quotes (") at the beginning or the end of the URL.
> 
> What I do is this:
> put  "http://";  & fld "link" & "  & target="& _blank &" >"
> & fld "link" &"" &  "<"&"br/"&">"  &  "<"&"br/"&">" after tData
> 
> I also tried this but that doesn't works either:
> put  "http://";  & fld "link" & """ &"  &
> target="& """ & blank & """ &" >" & fld "titel" &""
> after tData
> (the " isn't translated then into a quote)
> 
> I start the HTML file with:
>  "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd";>
> http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml";>
> 
> 
> Anyone knows why I don't get the qoute?
> And is there a way to get them?
> 
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> William

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Re: Datagrid: simple (non-3D) column header dividers?

[zryip theSlug]

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 5:44 AM, Terry Judd  wrote:
> I'd like to be able to have simple lines (i.e. no 3D effect) of a specified
> color between my datagrid column headers. Is this doable?
>
> Terry...

Hi Terry,

Is the:
 set the dgProps["header divider color"] of tMyDatagrid to tMyNewColor

do the trick?


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Re: Create HTML file from rev app

[sales]

I'm reletivley new to Rev, but I tried putting 
answer "This is a quote symbol ""
into the msg box and the result was ' This is a quote symbol quot '
whereas when I put 
answer "This is a quote symbol ""e
into the msg box the result was ' This is a quote symbol " '
could be you just nee to add the 'e' at the end of the word quote

Bruce


- Original Message - 
From: "William de Smet" 
To: "How to use Revolution" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 4:03 AM
Subject: Create HTML file from rev app


Hi there all,

It's been a while since my last question but working hard on some apps.
For my daily job I needed a quick app to create a HTML file. In the
app I have some fields and in one of them I put a URL (just
www.domainname.com).
In some hidden fields I put the needed HTML and the all come together
when I save the file.
All works fine but when I look at the sourcecode in IE8 or Safari the
HTML isn't completely correct.
In a link it misses the quotes (") at the beginning or the end of the URL.

What I do is this:
put "http://"; & fld "link" & " & target="& _blank &" >"
& fld "link" &"" & "<"&"br/"&">" & "<"&"br/"&">" after tData

I also tried this but that doesn't works either:
put  "http://";  & fld "link" & """ &"  &
target="& """ & blank & """ &" >" & fld "titel" &""
after tData
(the " isn't translated then into a quote)

I start the HTML file with:
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd";>
http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml";>


Anyone knows why I don't get the qoute?
And is there a way to get them?


Greetings,

William
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Re: Create HTML file from rev app

[William de Smet]

Hi Mark,

Now it works!
You're helpful as always.

@Bruce: in HTML you use "e;  to get ".
I thought I had to use this in Rev as well.

groeten,
William



2010/8/25 Mark Schonewille :
> Hi William,
>
> You got it almost right:
>
> "http://";  & fld "link" & quote & " target=" & quote & 
> "_blank" & quote & " >" & fld "link" &"" after tData
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Mark Schonewille
>
> Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
> Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
> KvK: 50277553
>
> From 15th August, we'll have time for new projects! Be the first in line and 
> contact me now!
>
> Download the Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution at 
> http://qurl.tk/ce
>
> On 25 aug 2010, at 10:03, William de Smet wrote:
>
>> Hi there all,
>>
>> It's been a while since my last question but working hard on some apps.
>> For my daily job I needed a quick app to create a HTML file. In the
>> app I have some fields and in one of them I put a URL (just
>> www.domainname.com).
>> In some hidden fields I put the needed HTML and the all come together
>> when I save the file.
>> All works fine but when I look at the sourcecode in IE8 or Safari the
>> HTML isn't completely correct.
>> In a link it misses the quotes (") at the beginning or the end of the URL.
>>
>> What I do is this:
>> put  "http://";  & fld "link" & "  & target="& _blank &" >"
>> & fld "link" &"" &  "<"&"br/"&">"  &  "<"&"br/"&">" after tData
>>
>> I also tried this but that doesn't works either:
>> put  "http://";  & fld "link" & """ &"  &
>> target="& """ & blank & """ &" >" & fld "titel" &""
>> after tData
>> (the " isn't translated then into a quote)
>>
>> I start the HTML file with:
>> > "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd";>
>> http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml";>
>>
>>
>> Anyone knows why I don't get the qoute?
>> And is there a way to get them?
>>
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> William
>
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Re: windows, copy, past and right mouse button

[sales]

Johathan,

Mark helped me quite a bit on the forum page. I did try to implement
that script in my stack. I modified a copy of the Rev 'ask' stack but
wasn't sure how to merge it into my stack to use in place of the default 
stack.
What I did was a little against the rules and worked around using the 'ask' 
dialog
with hiding and showing buttons and fields for the user to enter his 
username
and password. If he 'right-clicks' on the empty field it automatically 
checks
to see if text is in the clipboard and if true then pastes it in for him. I 
figured if
someone is clicking in a blank field the only reason to do so would be to 
paste

something in there. No need for a popup menu, which I got frustrated trying
to implement. I will have to practice using that somewhere else. I was in a
time crunch to get a functional program to a customer.

Bruce

- Original Message - 
From: "Jonathan Lynch" 

To: "How to use Revolution" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: windows, copy, past and right mouse button



on mouseUp tButton
 if tButton = 3 then
 answer "The right mouse button is button number 3"
 end if
end mouseUp

does that help?

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:35 PM,  wrote:

Being a relative newbie, I've looked and searched through the files but 
am

unable to figure out how to incorporate the right mouse button into my
scripts. As I have been forced to use Windoze computers for quite a 
while, I
have gotten used to using the right mouse button to do copy and pasting 
of

text. I have written several stacks the latest of which I need to enter a
UserName and Password. I have a program that stores my passwords and such
and frequently use it to copy and paste from, but when I right click on 
the

"Enter Username:" dialog box, nothing happens. I can however use the
keyboard shortcut ctrl-v which works as long as I'm running Rev. If I 
build

a standalone, even that doesn't work. I'm not sure if the problem exists
because the answer command is a blocking command or not. Thanks in 
advance

for your help. Sorry so wordy.

Bruce
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Re: Create HTML file from rev app

[Richard Gaskin]

William de Smet wrote:


It's been a while since my last question but working hard on some apps.
For my daily job I needed a quick app to create a HTML file. In the
app I have some fields and in one of them I put a URL (just
www.domainname.com).
In some hidden fields I put the needed HTML and the all come together
when I save the file.
All works fine but when I look at the sourcecode in IE8 or Safari the
HTML isn't completely correct.
In a link it misses the quotes (") at the beginning or the end of the URL.

What I do is this:
put  "http://";  & fld "link" & "  & target="& _blank &" >"
& fld "link" &"" &  "<"&"br/"&">"  &  "<"&"br/"&">" after tData


You've discovered why I hate concatenating HTML in xTalks. ;)

I've found it far less tedious to just write the HMTL as I want it in 
the final output and use the merge function to assemble the dynamic parts.


For example, you could have this in a field named "template":

http://[[fld "link"]]" target="_blank ">[[fld 
"link"]]


...and then just use this to get the assembled output:

put merge(fld "template") into tData

Check out the merge function in the RevTalk dictionary.  It's a 
life-saver for tasks like this (and a good many others).


--
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Re: Create HTML file from rev app

[William de Smet]

Thanks Richard,

That looks so much easier. I never used 'merge' before.
I will definitely use this.

Greetings,

William



2010/8/25 Richard Gaskin :
> William de Smet wrote:
>
>> It's been a while since my last question but working hard on some apps.
>> For my daily job I needed a quick app to create a HTML file. In the
>> app I have some fields and in one of them I put a URL (just
>> www.domainname.com).
>> In some hidden fields I put the needed HTML and the all come together
>> when I save the file.
>> All works fine but when I look at the sourcecode in IE8 or Safari the
>> HTML isn't completely correct.
>> In a link it misses the quotes (") at the beginning or the end of the URL.
>>
>> What I do is this:
>> put  "http://";  & fld "link" & "  & target="& _blank &" >"
>> & fld "link" &"" &  "<"&"br/"&">"  &  "<"&"br/"&">" after tData
>
> You've discovered why I hate concatenating HTML in xTalks. ;)
>
> I've found it far less tedious to just write the HMTL as I want it in the
> final output and use the merge function to assemble the dynamic parts.
>
> For example, you could have this in a field named "template":
>
> http://[[fld "link"]]" target="_blank ">[[fld
> "link"]]
>
> ...and then just use this to get the assembled output:
>
> put merge(fld "template") into tData
>
> Check out the merge function in the RevTalk dictionary.  It's a life-saver
> for tasks like this (and a good many others).
>
> --
>  Richard Gaskin
>  Fourth World
>  Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com
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Re: Create HTML file from rev app

[sales]

William,

Thanks, I'll try to remember that. Boy I have a lot to learn.
I think I need an extra terabyte HD in my head.

Bruce

- Original Message - 
From: "William de Smet" 

To: "How to use Revolution" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: Create HTML file from rev app


Hi Mark,

Now it works!
You're helpful as always.

@Bruce: in HTML you use "e;  to get ".
I thought I had to use this in Rev as well.

groeten,
William



2010/8/25 Mark Schonewille :

Hi William,

You got it almost right:

"http://"; & fld "link" & quote & " target=" & quote & 
"_blank" & quote & " >" & fld "link" &"" after tData



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On 25 aug 2010, at 10:03, William de Smet wrote:


Hi there all,

It's been a while since my last question but working hard on some apps.
For my daily job I needed a quick app to create a HTML file. In the
app I have some fields and in one of them I put a URL (just
www.domainname.com).
In some hidden fields I put the needed HTML and the all come together
when I save the file.
All works fine but when I look at the sourcecode in IE8 or Safari the
HTML isn't completely correct.
In a link it misses the quotes (") at the beginning or the end of the 
URL.


What I do is this:
put "http://"; & fld "link" & " & target="& _blank &" >"
& fld "link" &"" & "<"&"br/"&">" & "<"&"br/"&">" after tData

I also tried this but that doesn't works either:
put "http://"; & fld "link" & """ &" &
target="& """ & blank & """ &" >" & fld "titel" &""
after tData
(the " isn't translated then into a quote)

I start the HTML file with:
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd";>
http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml";>


Anyone knows why I don't get the qoute?
And is there a way to get them?


Greetings,

William


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Re: Datagrid: simple (non-3D) column header dividers?

[Terry Judd]

Well it's a good start (how come it isn't in my datagrid user guide?) but
you still get left with a light coloured one pixel wide line (leftHilite) to
the left of each column header that 'spoils' the vanilla effect I'm looking
for. If there was some way to target this graphic through the dgProps
(either by setting its colour or hiding it) then I think we'd be there.

Cheers,

Terry...


On 25/08/10 6:28 PM, "zryip theSlug"  wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 5:44 AM, Terry Judd  wrote:
>> I'd like to be able to have simple lines (i.e. no 3D effect) of a specified
>> color between my datagrid column headers. Is this doable?
>> 
>> Terry...
> 
> Hi Terry,
> 
> Is the:
>  set the dgProps["header divider color"] of tMyDatagrid to tMyNewColor
> 
> do the trick?
> 
> 
> Regards,

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Re: windows, copy, past and right mouse button

[jonathandlynch]

Interesting - for one of the apps I made at work, it pops up a copy/cut/paste 
menu when the user right clicks into certain fields

So, fear not - for future apps that you make, it can be done.

J
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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From: 
Sender: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 04:43:56 
To: How to use Revolution
Reply-To: How to use Revolution 
Subject: Re: windows, copy, past and right mouse button

Johathan,

Mark helped me quite a bit on the forum page. I did try to implement
that script in my stack. I modified a copy of the Rev 'ask' stack but
wasn't sure how to merge it into my stack to use in place of the default 
stack.
What I did was a little against the rules and worked around using the 'ask' 
dialog
with hiding and showing buttons and fields for the user to enter his 
username
and password. If he 'right-clicks' on the empty field it automatically 
checks
to see if text is in the clipboard and if true then pastes it in for him. I 
figured if
someone is clicking in a blank field the only reason to do so would be to 
paste
something in there. No need for a popup menu, which I got frustrated trying
to implement. I will have to practice using that somewhere else. I was in a
time crunch to get a functional program to a customer.

Bruce

- Original Message - 
From: "Jonathan Lynch" 
To: "How to use Revolution" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: windows, copy, past and right mouse button


> on mouseUp tButton
>  if tButton = 3 then
>  answer "The right mouse button is button number 3"
>  end if
> end mouseUp
>
> does that help?
>
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:35 PM,  wrote:
>
>> Being a relative newbie, I've looked and searched through the files but 
>> am
>> unable to figure out how to incorporate the right mouse button into my
>> scripts. As I have been forced to use Windoze computers for quite a 
>> while, I
>> have gotten used to using the right mouse button to do copy and pasting 
>> of
>> text. I have written several stacks the latest of which I need to enter a
>> UserName and Password. I have a program that stores my passwords and such
>> and frequently use it to copy and paste from, but when I right click on 
>> the
>> "Enter Username:" dialog box, nothing happens. I can however use the
>> keyboard shortcut ctrl-v which works as long as I'm running Rev. If I 
>> build
>> a standalone, even that doesn't work. I'm not sure if the problem exists
>> because the answer command is a blocking command or not. Thanks in 
>> advance
>> for your help. Sorry so wordy.
>>
>> Bruce
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Re: Datagrid: simple (non-3D) column header dividers?

[Terry Judd]

Brute force method...

on toggleDGHeaderLeftHilite pDGname, pVis
   put the long id of grp "dgHeaderComponents" of grp pDGname into tObj
   repeat with i = 1 to the number of controls of tObj
  if the short name of control i  of tObj = "leftHilite" then
 set the visible of control i of tObj to pVis
  end if
   end repeat
end toggleDGHeaderLeftHilite

Terry...


On 25/08/10 8:27 PM, "Terry Judd"  wrote:

> Well it's a good start (how come it isn't in my datagrid user guide?) but
> you still get left with a light coloured one pixel wide line (leftHilite) to
> the left of each column header that 'spoils' the vanilla effect I'm looking
> for. If there was some way to target this graphic through the dgProps
> (either by setting its colour or hiding it) then I think we'd be there.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Terry...
> 
> 
> On 25/08/10 6:28 PM, "zryip theSlug"  wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 5:44 AM, Terry Judd  wrote:
>>> I'd like to be able to have simple lines (i.e. no 3D effect) of a specified
>>> color between my datagrid column headers. Is this doable?
>>> 
>>> Terry...
>> 
>> Hi Terry,
>> 
>> Is the:
>>  set the dgProps["header divider color"] of tMyDatagrid to tMyNewColor
>> 
>> do the trick?
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
> 
> --
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> Medical Education Unit
> Melbourne Medical School
> The University of Melbourne
> 
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Re: The State of the Art of Auto Upgrading - How do You Do It?

[Chipp Walters]

Hi Sivakatirswami,

Yes, I still use MagicCarpet for all my projects. It does have Proxy support
for NTLM and Basic Authentication. Chris wrote the NTML.dll for Windows.

It also has an updatable plugin architecture, along with support for
updating externals, and virtually any file. It also can update certain files
on Macs and other files on Windows.

It generally takes me an hour or so to get everything setup at the
beginning, including a standalone with icon and splash screen design and
server setup. If you recall, the whole idea is the splash screen app ONLY
checks for updates to itself and the Main stack-- and the Main stack checks
for updates for all other files, including plugins, externals and any other
files.

I haven't really looked into other mechanisms. I do have a single button
"check for updates" which is a subset of MagicCarpet and I copy/paste the
button from altPlugin stack to altPlugin stack, and a single press checks
and updates the stack. I also use it for many tools, not finished apps,
which use a basic Launcher.exe which looks in the same folder for a rev
stack and launches the first one it comes across. This way a single Launcher
can be used over and over for utilities. The issue is this engine doesn't
know how to update itself, only the stacks with the 'check for updates'
button does.

I can upload the single button code if anyone is interested.

HTH,

Chipp
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Menu button with different fonts in label and menu?

[jonathandlynch]

What is the best was to achieve the effect of having a menu button, that is 
part of a group used as a menu bar, that has or appears to have a label that 
uses a standard font and menu items that use wingding characters?

Is there a field setting that would allow mouse clicks to pass through to the 
object below without graying out the text of the field?


Thanks,

Jonathan


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Re: The State of the Art of Auto Upgrading - How do You Do It?

[Chipp Walters]

Here's a very old website which describes how MagicCarpet works:
http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/MagicCarpetAAA/default.htm

The files are old-- I should update with newer files. But the theory is the
same. Plus, I've added a new plugin to make configuration a bit easier.
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Re: Datagrid: simple (non-3D) column header dividers?

[zryip theSlug]

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Terry Judd  wrote:
> Well it's a good start (how come it isn't in my datagrid user guide?) but
> you still get left with a light coloured one pixel wide line (leftHilite) to
> the left of each column header that 'spoils' the vanilla effect I'm looking
> for. If there was some way to target this graphic through the dgProps
> (either by setting its colour or hiding it) then I think we'd be there.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Terry...
>

You can manage this pixel line with:
set the dgProps["header divider threeD color"] of grp "MyDataGrid" to tTheColor

header divider color and header divider threeD color are undocumented.


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Re: Menu button with different fonts in label and menu?

[DunbarX]

When you say graying out the text, have you set the blendLevel of the field 
to some number, like 50? If so, you can see the underlying object, but the 
text is grayed. Try setting the "transparent" of the field instead. Then the 
text remains sharp, and only the white space is removed.

As for letting messages through, I think you will have to script this, 
sending a mouseUp to the object of interest explicitly. The lockText of the 
field should be set to "true".

Craig Newman
In a message dated 8/25/10 6:46:40 AM, jonathandly...@gmail.com writes:


> Is there a field setting that would allow mouse clicks to pass through to 
> the object below without graying out the text of the field?
> 
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Re: Menu button with different fonts in label and menu?

[DunbarX]

When you say graying out the text, have you set the blendLevel of the field 
to some number, like 50? If so, you can see the underlying object, but the 
text is grayed. Try setting the "transparent" of the field instead. Then the 
text remains sharp, and only the white space is removed.

As for letting messages through, I think you will have to script this, 
sending a mouseUp to the object of interest explicitly. The lockText of the 
field should be set to "true".

Craig Newman
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Re: Datagrid: simple (non-3D) column header dividers?

[Terry Judd]

Excellent - thanks!

Terry...

On 25/08/2010, at 9:48 PM, "zryip theSlug"  wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Terry Judd  wrote:
>> Well it's a good start (how come it isn't in my datagrid user guide?) but
>> you still get left with a light coloured one pixel wide line (leftHilite) to
>> the left of each column header that 'spoils' the vanilla effect I'm looking
>> for. If there was some way to target this graphic through the dgProps
>> (either by setting its colour or hiding it) then I think we'd be there.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Terry...
>> 
> 
> You can manage this pixel line with:
> set the dgProps["header divider threeD color"] of grp "MyDataGrid" to 
> tTheColor
> 
> header divider color and header divider threeD color are undocumented.
> 
> 
> Regards,
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Re: Datagrid: simple (non-3D) column header dividers?

[Trevor DeVore]

On Aug 25, 2010, at 6:27 AM, Terry Judd wrote:

Well it's a good start (how come it isn't in my datagrid user  
guide?) but
you still get left with a light coloured one pixel wide line  
(leftHilite) to
the left of each column header that 'spoils' the vanilla effect I'm  
looking

for. If there was some way to target this graphic through the dgProps
(either by setting its colour or hiding it) then I think we'd be  
there.


I don't think it is available in the version of the data grid that  
came with rev 4.0 but in the next release you can set the  'header  
divider threeD color' property.


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RunRev Specs - Upgrading System

[Ray Horsley]

Greetings,

Anybody know if Revolution uses 64 bit processing?  Also, does  
Revolution make use of multiple cores?  In other words, would  
Revolution take advantage of features like an i7 3.33 gig processor?   
Please make any other suggestions regarding the optimal system for  
speed when working in Revolution and making lots of LibURL calls


Thanks,

Ray Horsley
LinkIt! Software
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Re: RunRev Specs - Upgrading System

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Ray,

RunRev doesn't use multiple cores and is 32 bit. 

There are very many factors affecting network performance. What are the 
symptoms you're struggling with?

Some time ago, I upgraded to Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) which is entirely 64 
bit. I can clearly notice the speed bump. I hope that a 64 but version of 
Revolution will be available soon.

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On 25 aug 2010, at 15:23, Ray Horsley wrote:

> Greetings,
> 
> Anybody know if Revolution uses 64 bit processing?  Also, does Revolution 
> make use of multiple cores?  In other words, would Revolution take advantage 
> of features like an i7 3.33 gig processor?  Please make any other suggestions 
> regarding the optimal system for speed when working in Revolution and making 
> lots of LibURL calls
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ray Horsley
> LinkIt! Software


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Re: RunRev Specs - Upgrading System

[Andre Garzia]

Ray,

I don't think Rev is optmized for 64 bits or multiple cores. If the host
system does some optimizations then it will benefit but then again, everyone
will benefit.

I don't know if you're talking about windows, mac or linux on this post but
double check if there is no issue with Windows 64 bits and Rev. Windows
compatibility stuff for running 32 bits stuff under a 64 bits system is not
as good as apples (so they say).

I think the best thing you can have for development is a HUGE OBSCENE AMOUNT
OF RAM.

RAM is king! RAM trumps Gigaherts! RAM trumps CPU! This is subjective, but
I'd rather have a core 2 duo with 8 GB of ram than a i5 with 2 GB of RAM.

Unless you are doing heavy number crunching and video processing will be
more delayed by your system abilities to use memory (paging stuff to disk,
all those silly software allocating 2GB of RAM, yes firefox, I am looking at
you) than by CPU being busy. It is my humble opinion that somewhere after
pentium 3 or near, CPUs got so freaking fast that they usually wait for you
or other subsystems instead of you waiting for them to process something. My
machine is quite fast with its core 2 duo but with only 2GB of RAM, I loose
too much time and performance when running virtualbox and browsers and IDEs
at the same time.

You can never have enough RAM. If you have the money, check out how much
maximum RAM your computer support and top it. You will not be sorry and if
things go all right then you won't even notice anything because things will
run smooth.

Also multiple cores are wonderful, use as many as you can. Rev engine is not
optimized for multicore usage but the rest of your operating system is so
there's a benefit.

Here on my work, one of our servers is a Dual Hexacore beast, so you got 12
cores working, with HT then you got 24 threads available. That is quite fast
with its 48GB of RAM. Of course this is a server and not a desktop machine
but even though the cores are not too fast, having a lot of RAM and 24
threads beats CPU raw power and speed.

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Ray Horsley  wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> Anybody know if Revolution uses 64 bit processing?  Also, does Revolution
> make use of multiple cores?  In other words, would Revolution take advantage
> of features like an i7 3.33 gig processor?  Please make any other
> suggestions regarding the optimal system for speed when working in
> Revolution and making lots of LibURL calls
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ray Horsley
> LinkIt! Software
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Re: Menu button with different fonts in label and menu?

[jonathandlynch]

Sending mouseup to a pulldown menu does not make the menu appear. Using popup 
on a pulldown menu messes up the appearance of the button. This is on an older 
version or Rev that I use at work.

If you disable a field, you can click through it - but the text in the disabled 
field will be grey.

Thanks, though - do you have any other suggestions? I think I am going to have 
to resort to using a substack for the menuitems of that button.

Peace,

J
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When you say graying out the text, have you set the blendLevel of the field 
to some number, like 50? If so, you can see the underlying object, but the 
text is grayed. Try setting the "transparent" of the field instead. Then the 
text remains sharp, and only the white space is removed.

As for letting messages through, I think you will have to script this, 
sending a mouseUp to the object of interest explicitly. The lockText of the 
field should be set to "true".

Craig Newman
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Re: RunRev Specs - Upgrading System

[Andre Garzia]

Mark,

I don't think Rev would benefit from being 64 bits. We're not doing manual
memory allocation and raw data structures and things like that. That is my
opinion only, instead of 64 bits, I'd like some sort of thread support. Like
running a handler with no side effects on a different thread. That would be
enough to make me happy and would boost Rev performance much more than 64
bits engine.

Andre



On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Mark Schonewille <
m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote:

> Hi Ray,
>
> RunRev doesn't use multiple cores and is 32 bit.
>
> There are very many factors affecting network performance. What are the
> symptoms you're struggling with?
>
> Some time ago, I upgraded to Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) which is entirely
> 64 bit. I can clearly notice the speed bump. I hope that a 64 but version of
> Revolution will be available soon.
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Mark Schonewille
>
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> Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
> KvK: 50277553
>
> From 15th August, we'll have time for new projects! Be the first in line
> and contact me now!
>
> Download the Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution at
> http://qurl.tk/ce
>
> On 25 aug 2010, at 15:23, Ray Horsley wrote:
>
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Anybody know if Revolution uses 64 bit processing?  Also, does Revolution
> make use of multiple cores?  In other words, would Revolution take advantage
> of features like an i7 3.33 gig processor?  Please make any other
> suggestions regarding the optimal system for speed when working in
> Revolution and making lots of LibURL calls
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ray Horsley
> > LinkIt! Software
>
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Re: Create HTML file from rev app

[Andre Garzia]

William,

Merge is king!

Another cool command is "format" which is like C printf() function. It can
be used like this:

put format("my title%s", fld "link", fld "link") into tHTML

keep notice that you can use " inside a quoted format string if you escape
them like \"
You can use %s place holders where you want to insert your data that is
passed in order as arguments for the format function. In that example I use
two %s placeholders which are replaced with field "link" and field "link"
again.

The place holders are cool because you can use them to format, for example,
suppose I am passing the value 5 to the following placeholders:

%s output 5
%d output 5
%.2f output 5.00
%.3f output 5.000
%3d output 005
%4d output 0005

(there is much more to it but this is enough to show the concept)

:D


On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 5:58 AM, William de Smet wrote:

> Thanks Richard,
>
> That looks so much easier. I never used 'merge' before.
> I will definitely use this.
>
> Greetings,
>
> William
>
>
>
> 2010/8/25 Richard Gaskin :
> > William de Smet wrote:
> >
> >> It's been a while since my last question but working hard on some apps.
> >> For my daily job I needed a quick app to create a HTML file. In the
> >> app I have some fields and in one of them I put a URL (just
> >> www.domainname.com).
> >> In some hidden fields I put the needed HTML and the all come together
> >> when I save the file.
> >> All works fine but when I look at the sourcecode in IE8 or Safari the
> >> HTML isn't completely correct.
> >> In a link it misses the quotes (") at the beginning or the end of the
> URL.
> >>
> >> What I do is this:
> >> put  "http://";  & fld "link" & "  & target="& _blank &" >"
> >> & fld "link" &"" &  "<"&"br/"&">"  &  "<"&"br/"&">" after tData
> >
> > You've discovered why I hate concatenating HTML in xTalks. ;)
> >
> > I've found it far less tedious to just write the HMTL as I want it in the
> > final output and use the merge function to assemble the dynamic parts.
> >
> > For example, you could have this in a field named "template":
> >
> > http://[[fld "link"]]" target="_blank ">[[fld
> > "link"]]
> >
> > ...and then just use this to get the assembled output:
> >
> > put merge(fld "template") into tData
> >
> > Check out the merge function in the RevTalk dictionary.  It's a
> life-saver
> > for tasks like this (and a good many others).
> >
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drawer stack

[william humphrey]

I was just trying to open a drawer stack on my mac OS 10.6.4 system
and noticed it did nothing at all (stack doesn't even open when using
the drawer command) and then I read this in the dictionary:

Cross-platform note:  On Mac OS, Unix, and Windows systems, drawers
are not supported, so the drawer command opens the stack as a palette
instead. The palette uses the current rectangle of the stack and does
not resize or move it.


So I'm wondering... what system are the folks at RunRev talking about
where drawers do work? Perhaps RunRev works on BeOs?
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Re: drawer stack

[Klaus on-rev]

Hi William,

> I was just trying to open a drawer stack on my mac OS 10.6.4 system
> and noticed it did nothing at all (stack doesn't even open when using
> the drawer command) and then I read this in the dictionary:
> 
> Cross-platform note:  On Mac OS, Unix, and Windows systems, drawers
> are not supported, so the drawer command opens the stack as a palette
> instead. The palette uses the current rectangle of the stack and does
> not resize or move it.
> 
> 
> So I'm wondering... what system are the folks at RunRev talking about
> where drawers do work? Perhaps RunRev works on BeOs?

:-)

MacOS <> MacOS X!
MacOS = everything <= OS 9!

But drawers DO work on OS X!
Just tested and worked fine.

Could you post your script to open a drawer?
Maybe a typo in the syntax or whatever...


Best

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Re: drawer stack

[william humphrey]

I did this: "drawer stack "consignees" at right of stack "Clients"
aligned to top"

but you can go stack "consignees" or open stack consignees and that
works. Funny that RunRev has to still be compatible with Mac OS 9. I
wonder how much of an advantage that is?

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Klaus on-rev  wrote:
> Hi William,
>
>> I was just trying to open a drawer stack on my mac OS 10.6.4 system
>> and noticed it did nothing at all (stack doesn't even open when using
>> the drawer command) and then I read this in the dictionary:
>> 
>> Cross-platform note:  On Mac OS, Unix, and Windows systems, drawers
>> are not supported, so the drawer command opens the stack as a palette
>> instead. The palette uses the current rectangle of the stack and does
>> not resize or move it.
>> 
>>
>> So I'm wondering... what system are the folks at RunRev talking about
>> where drawers do work? Perhaps RunRev works on BeOs?
>
> :-)
>
> MacOS <> MacOS X!
> MacOS = everything <= OS 9!
>
> But drawers DO work on OS X!
> Just tested and worked fine.
>
> Could you post your script to open a drawer?
> Maybe a typo in the syntax or whatever...
>
>
> Best
>
> Klaus
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Re: drawer stack

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Klaus,

At first sight, drawers may seem to work fine, but they are very buggy. I'd 
avoid them.

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On 25 aug 2010, at 16:52, Klaus on-rev wrote:

> 
> MacOS <> MacOS X!
> MacOS = everything <= OS 9!
> 
> But drawers DO work on OS X!
> Just tested and worked fine.
> 
> Could you post your script to open a drawer?
> Maybe a typo in the syntax or whatever...

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Re: The State of the Art of Auto Upgrading - How do You Do It?

[stephen barncard]

Thanks, Chipp,

btw,
The download inks there are broken.

sqb

On 25 August 2010 03:52, Chipp Walters  wrote:

> Here's a very old website which describes how MagicCarpet works:
> http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/MagicCarpetAAA/default.htm
>
> The files are old-- I should update with newer files. But the theory is the
> same. Plus, I've added a new plugin to make configuration a bit easier.
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Re: drawer stack

[william humphrey]

I will avoid the drawer. Thanks for the advice. I was just fooling
around. I do think that "ALL" the dictionary notes should be changed
to say "MAC OS 9" or "MAC OS X" and not just MAC OS as that is very
confusing. Maybe I'll take all the controls on my stack and make it a
group or something so that I can make it look like a drawer. I'd like
to not pre-clude cross platform behavior.
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Re: RunRev Specs - Upgrading System

[Ray Horsley]

André, Mark,

Thanks for these suggestions.  I've worked on Macs for years but I'm  
thinking of switching to Windows 7.  I understand it's been received  
more warmly than Vista and as I'm spending more time switching back  
and forth to make sure colors and fonts look reasonably the same in my  
standalone on Windows as they do on my Mac I'm considering the switch.


For the last 4-5 years I'm on a Mac with 4 cores running at 2.66 with  
2 GB of DDR2 RAM.  I'm thinking of stepping up to an i7 with 6 cores  
running at 3.3 GHz with 12 GB of RAM.  My work doesn't involve video  
rendering or anything special.  It's simply a lot of processing data  
and moving it to and from a remote server.  Recently I've noticed  
Revolution choking and ultimately freezing on very heavy tasks,  
sometimes to the point that I'm forced to log back in.  This could be  
due to just 2 GB of DDR2 RAM or maybe it could be points on my aging  
processor burning out.


Anyway, if you know of any issues with Revolution and Windows 7 on a  
64 bit machine then please let me know.


Thanks,

Ray

On Aug 25, 2010, at 9:38 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:


Ray,

I don't think Rev is optmized for 64 bits or multiple cores. If the  
host
system does some optimizations then it will benefit but then again,  
everyone

will benefit.

I don't know if you're talking about windows, mac or linux on this  
post but
double check if there is no issue with Windows 64 bits and Rev.  
Windows
compatibility stuff for running 32 bits stuff under a 64 bits system  
is not

as good as apples (so they say).

I think the best thing you can have for development is a HUGE  
OBSCENE AMOUNT

OF RAM.

RAM is king! RAM trumps Gigaherts! RAM trumps CPU! This is  
subjective, but
I'd rather have a core 2 duo with 8 GB of ram than a i5 with 2 GB of  
RAM.


Unless you are doing heavy number crunching and video processing  
will be
more delayed by your system abilities to use memory (paging stuff to  
disk,
all those silly software allocating 2GB of RAM, yes firefox, I am  
looking at
you) than by CPU being busy. It is my humble opinion that somewhere  
after
pentium 3 or near, CPUs got so freaking fast that they usually wait  
for you
or other subsystems instead of you waiting for them to process  
something. My
machine is quite fast with its core 2 duo but with only 2GB of RAM,  
I loose
too much time and performance when running virtualbox and browsers  
and IDEs

at the same time.

You can never have enough RAM. If you have the money, check out how  
much
maximum RAM your computer support and top it. You will not be sorry  
and if
things go all right then you won't even notice anything because  
things will

run smooth.

Also multiple cores are wonderful, use as many as you can. Rev  
engine is not
optimized for multicore usage but the rest of your operating system  
is so

there's a benefit.

Here on my work, one of our servers is a Dual Hexacore beast, so you  
got 12
cores working, with HT then you got 24 threads available. That is  
quite fast
with its 48GB of RAM. Of course this is a server and not a desktop  
machine

but even though the cores are not too fast, having a lot of RAM and 24
threads beats CPU raw power and speed.

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Ray Horsley  wrote:


Greetings,

Anybody know if Revolution uses 64 bit processing?  Also, does  
Revolution
make use of multiple cores?  In other words, would Revolution take  
advantage

of features like an i7 3.33 gig processor?  Please make any other
suggestions regarding the optimal system for speed when working in
Revolution and making lots of LibURL calls

Thanks,

Ray Horsley
LinkIt! Software
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Re: drawer stack

[Klaus on-rev]

Hi William,

> I did this: "drawer stack "consignees" at right of stack "Clients"
> aligned to top"

hmmm, correct, should work and works here???

> but you can go stack "consignees" or open stack consignees and that
> works. Funny that RunRev has to still be compatible with Mac OS 9. I

I think the last version compatible with MacOS 9 is 2.61(?), at least not a 
newer version.

> wonder how much of an advantage that is?

Imagine you had a machine with OS 9 or even 8 running!
Maybe that will answer your question :-)


Best

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Re: drawer stack

[Klaus on-rev]

Hi Mark,

> Hi Klaus,
> 
> At first sight, drawers may seem to work fine, but they are very buggy. I'd 
> avoid them.

buggy or not, that was not the question :-)
At least the drawer should open, which does here!

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> 
> Mark Schonewille

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Re: RunRev Specs - Upgrading System

[Andre Garzia]

Ray,

I am also experiencing chokes but not specific to Revolution. My machine has
2GB of RAM as well. I believe Mac OS X no longer thinks 2GB of RAM is
enough. I suspect I need at least 4 GB for smooth work.

Andre

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Ray Horsley  wrote:

> André, Mark,
>
> Thanks for these suggestions.  I've worked on Macs for years but I'm
> thinking of switching to Windows 7.  I understand it's been received more
> warmly than Vista and as I'm spending more time switching back and forth to
> make sure colors and fonts look reasonably the same in my standalone on
> Windows as they do on my Mac I'm considering the switch.
>
> For the last 4-5 years I'm on a Mac with 4 cores running at 2.66 with 2 GB
> of DDR2 RAM.  I'm thinking of stepping up to an i7 with 6 cores running at
> 3.3 GHz with 12 GB of RAM.  My work doesn't involve video rendering or
> anything special.  It's simply a lot of processing data and moving it to and
> from a remote server.  Recently I've noticed Revolution choking and
> ultimately freezing on very heavy tasks, sometimes to the point that I'm
> forced to log back in.  This could be due to just 2 GB of DDR2 RAM or maybe
> it could be points on my aging processor burning out.
>
> Anyway, if you know of any issues with Revolution and Windows 7 on a 64 bit
> machine then please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ray
>
>
> On Aug 25, 2010, at 9:38 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:
>
>  Ray,
>>
>> I don't think Rev is optmized for 64 bits or multiple cores. If the host
>> system does some optimizations then it will benefit but then again,
>> everyone
>> will benefit.
>>
>> I don't know if you're talking about windows, mac or linux on this post
>> but
>> double check if there is no issue with Windows 64 bits and Rev. Windows
>> compatibility stuff for running 32 bits stuff under a 64 bits system is
>> not
>> as good as apples (so they say).
>>
>> I think the best thing you can have for development is a HUGE OBSCENE
>> AMOUNT
>> OF RAM.
>>
>> RAM is king! RAM trumps Gigaherts! RAM trumps CPU! This is subjective, but
>> I'd rather have a core 2 duo with 8 GB of ram than a i5 with 2 GB of RAM.
>>
>> Unless you are doing heavy number crunching and video processing will be
>> more delayed by your system abilities to use memory (paging stuff to disk,
>> all those silly software allocating 2GB of RAM, yes firefox, I am looking
>> at
>> you) than by CPU being busy. It is my humble opinion that somewhere after
>> pentium 3 or near, CPUs got so freaking fast that they usually wait for
>> you
>> or other subsystems instead of you waiting for them to process something.
>> My
>> machine is quite fast with its core 2 duo but with only 2GB of RAM, I
>> loose
>> too much time and performance when running virtualbox and browsers and
>> IDEs
>> at the same time.
>>
>> You can never have enough RAM. If you have the money, check out how much
>> maximum RAM your computer support and top it. You will not be sorry and if
>> things go all right then you won't even notice anything because things
>> will
>> run smooth.
>>
>> Also multiple cores are wonderful, use as many as you can. Rev engine is
>> not
>> optimized for multicore usage but the rest of your operating system is so
>> there's a benefit.
>>
>> Here on my work, one of our servers is a Dual Hexacore beast, so you got
>> 12
>> cores working, with HT then you got 24 threads available. That is quite
>> fast
>> with its 48GB of RAM. Of course this is a server and not a desktop machine
>> but even though the cores are not too fast, having a lot of RAM and 24
>> threads beats CPU raw power and speed.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Ray Horsley  wrote:
>>
>>  Greetings,
>>>
>>> Anybody know if Revolution uses 64 bit processing?  Also, does Revolution
>>> make use of multiple cores?  In other words, would Revolution take
>>> advantage
>>> of features like an i7 3.33 gig processor?  Please make any other
>>> suggestions regarding the optimal system for speed when working in
>>> Revolution and making lots of LibURL calls
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ray Horsley
>>> LinkIt! Software
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Re: drawer stack

[stephen barncard]

Hey - drawers are cool - I've got a stack where I use 3 of them (side and
bottom) and they interoperate just fine.   They sometimes need a little
handholding on startup or closestack to get the open/close state correct,
but they've worked great for making available info that isn't always needed
and they have less visual disruption than an ordinary window or dialog.

On 25 August 2010 08:05, Mark Schonewille
wrote:

> Hi Klaus,
>
> At first sight, drawers may seem to work fine, but they are very buggy. I'd
> avoid them.
>
>
> Mark Schonewille
>

Stephen Barncard
San Francisco Ca. USA

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Re: drawer stack

[Éric Miclo]

Hello,

It was filled as bug #6843 on 2008-07-26 for version 3.0 and is still 
unconfirmed 2 years after and the dictionary for version 4.0 has not been 
modified.

The correct syntax is :

drawer stack nameOfTheStack at bottom -- left or right

If you add the parent's stack reference is does not open on the chosen side.

It seems that correcting the dictionary is really to much work (if reported 
bugs are really looked at).

Best regards,

ÉrIC Miclo

Le 25 août 2010 à 17:53, stephen barncard a écrit :

> 
> Hey - drawers are cool - I've got a stack where I use 3 of them (side and
> bottom) and they interoperate just fine.   They sometimes need a little
> handholding on startup or closestack to get the open/close state correct,
> but they've worked great for making available info that isn't always needed
> and they have less visual disruption than an ordinary window or dialog.
> 
> On 25 August 2010 08:05, Mark Schonewille
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Klaus,
>> 
>> At first sight, drawers may seem to work fine, but they are very buggy. I'd
>> avoid them.
>> 
>> 
>> Mark Schonewille
>> 
> 
> Stephen Barncard
> San Francisco Ca. USA
> 
> more about sqb  
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Re: drawer stack

[Klaus on-rev]

Hi all,

Am 25.08.2010 um 18:13 schrieb Éric Miclo:

> Hello,
> 
> It was filled as bug #6843 on 2008-07-26 for version 3.0 and is still 
> unconfirmed 2 years after and the dictionary for version 4.0 has not been 
> modified.
> The correct syntax is :
> drawer stack nameOfTheStack at bottom -- left or right
> 
> If you add the parent's stack reference is does not open on the chosen side.

Ah, well, yes, I remember and also the workaround to make this work!
You have to set the defaultstack first to the stack where you want to attach 
the drawer!

So for William this should work:
...
set the defaultstack to "Clients"
drawer stack "consignees" at right aligned to top
...

> It seems that correcting the dictionary is really to much work (if reported 
> bugs are really looked at).
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> ÉrIC Miclo

Best

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Re: drawer stack

[william humphrey]

Thanks. Setting the default stack solved the problem. Without doing
that first it didn't do anything.

I like the drawer stack effect a lot.  I also think the dictionary is
pretty important and should be updated and consideration should be
made for the percentage of windows and Mac OS X users compared to the
OS 9 and OS 8 users which it is nice that they are supported but I
can't believe there are that many.

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Klaus on-rev  wrote:
> set the defaultstack to "Clients"
> drawer stack "consignees" at right aligned to top



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Converting to title case

[James Hurley]

I do a lot of election database work for local candidates. The DB  
comes from the county and is quite large. All the data is upper case  
which I find ugly on a campaign mailer label.


I have a stack (below) which converts a text field to Title Case   
which, for my purposes, is a capital letter after every appearance of  
a white space. I know there are some sneaky ascii codes out there that  
masquerade as white spaced. Are there some I should consider besides:

'
space
return
enter
tab

(I handle proper names like MacDonald, O'Connors separately when  
constructing label data for campaign mailers. Within RunRev I  
construct a Google search


 put "http://www.google.com/search?q="; & tLastName into tName
 get url  tName

and then parse "it" for capitalization of the name in question. A  
little slow, but it works well enough. God, I love RunRev's  
versatility.)


So any suggestions for sneaky white spaces to look out for?

JIm

on mouseUp
   put field 2 into tList
   put toLower(tList) into tList

   --Define white spaces
   put tab,return,cr,enter,space into tWhiteSpaces
   --Are these all I should look out for?
   repeat for each item tItem in tWhiteSpaces
  put true into aWhiteSpace[tItem]
   end repeat

   --Insert capital after white space
   put space into tPrevious
   repeat for each char tChar in tList
  switch
 case aWhiteSpace[tPrevious]
put toUpper(tChar)  after results
break
 default
put tChar after results
  end switch
  put tChar into tPrevious
   end repeat

   put results into field 3
end mouseUp



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Re: Converting to title case

[Andre Garzia]

jim,

why not this:

put fld "list" into tContent

repeat for each word tName in tContent
  replace tName with (toUpper(char 1 of tName) & toLower(char 2 to -1 of
tName))
end repeat

This will capitalize all your names right?

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Re: The State of the Art of Auto Upgrading - How do You Do It?

[Web Admin Himalayan Academy]

 Hmmm... you refer to MagicCarpet, but are you really talking about 
altSplash?


Can we get the latest version you are using? I have your 2003 version 
and your stack script documentation was so thorough that anyone could 
use it. (thanks for that!)




 you talking about altSplas?On 8/25/10 12:42 AM, Chipp Walters wrote:

Hi Sivakatirswami,

Yes, I still use MagicCarpet for all my projects. It does have Proxy support
for NTLM and Basic Authentication. Chris wrote the NTML.dll for Windows.

It also has an updatable plugin architecture, along with support for
updating externals, and virtually any file. It also can update certain files
on Macs and other files on Windows.

It generally takes me an hour or so to get everything setup at the
beginning, including a standalone with icon and splash screen design and
server setup. If you recall, the whole idea is the splash screen app ONLY
checks for updates to itself and the Main stack-- and the Main stack checks
for updates for all other files, including plugins, externals and any other
files.

I haven't really looked into other mechanisms. I do have a single button
"check for updates" which is a subset of MagicCarpet and I copy/paste the
button from altPlugin stack to altPlugin stack, and a single press checks
and updates the stack. I also use it for many tools, not finished apps,
which use a basic Launcher.exe which looks in the same folder for a rev
stack and launches the first one it comes across. This way a single Launcher
can be used over and over for utilities. The issue is this engine doesn't
know how to update itself, only the stacks with the 'check for updates'
button does.

I can upload the single button code if anyone is interested.

HTH,

Chipp
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Re: The State of the Art of Auto Upgrading - How do You Do It?

[Web Admin Himalayan Academy]

 Chipp, I see last mod dates of 8/25... did you update the pages/files?

On 8/25/10 5:04 AM, stephen barncard wrote:

Thanks, Chipp,

btw,
The download inks there are broken.

sqb

On 25 August 2010 03:52, Chipp Walters  wrote:


Here's a very old website which describes how MagicCarpet works:
http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/MagicCarpetAAA/default.htm

The files are old-- I should update with newer files. But the theory is the
same. Plus, I've added a new plugin to make configuration a bit easier.
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Re: Create HTML file from rev app

[Jim Ault]

In HTML,
these two chars work the same

"' dbl single
if you start a string with a single quote, it continues until the next  
single quote
if you start a string with a dbl quote, it continues until the next  
dbl quote

 so  var = 'a phrase containing a " char is kept intact'
 without escaping or the  "  entity

so use the double quote for Rev and the single quote for HTML code

-A-  Without using merge() function
get empty
get IT & " & fld  
link & ""

get IT & ""
put IT after tData

 the output is valid code and a clickable link
google.com

-B-  using the merge function
put merge( \
  "[[fld link]]a> " \

  ) after tData

 the output is valid code and a clickable link
google.com


Jim Ault
Las Vegas




On Aug 25, 2010, at 1:44 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:


William de Smet wrote:

It's been a while since my last question but working hard on some  
apps.

For my daily job I needed a quick app to create a HTML file. In the
app I have some fields and in one of them I put a URL (just
www.domainname.com).
In some hidden fields I put the needed HTML and the all come together
when I save the file.
All works fine but when I look at the sourcecode in IE8 or Safari the
HTML isn't completely correct.
In a link it misses the quotes (") at the beginning or the end of  
the URL.


What I do is this:
put  "http://";  & fld "link" & "  & target="& _blank &"  
>"

& fld "link" &"" &  "<"&"br/"&">"  &  "<"&"br/"&">" after tData


You've discovered why I hate concatenating HTML in xTalks. ;)

I've found it far less tedious to just write the HMTL as I want it  
in the final output and use the merge function to assemble the  
dynamic parts.


For example, you could have this in a field named "template":

http://[[fld "link"]]" target="_blank ">[[fld "link"]]a>


...and then just use this to get the assembled output:

put merge(fld "template") into tData

Check out the merge function in the RevTalk dictionary.  It's a life- 
saver for tasks like this (and a good many others).


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Re: Menu button with different fonts in label and menu?

[Jonathan Lynch]

In case anyone needs to do this, I figured out how.

Create an image, with the desired label text and place it over the the
pulldown menu button. Then set the disabled of the image to true. The image
is not altered when it is disabled, so the button still appears to have a
standard font - actually it is the image made to look like the button, but
the user will not realize that. When you click on a disabled image, the
click goes through to the object below. In this case, the object below is a
button using wingdings font.

Peace,

J

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:58 AM,  wrote:

> Sending mouseup to a pulldown menu does not make the menu appear. Using
> popup on a pulldown menu messes up the appearance of the button. This is on
> an older version or Rev that I use at work.
>
> If you disable a field, you can click through it - but the text in the
> disabled field will be grey.
>
> Thanks, though - do you have any other suggestions? I think I am going to
> have to resort to using a substack for the menuitems of that button.
>
> Peace,
>
> J
>  --Original Message--
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> To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
> ReplyTo: How to use Revolution
> Subject: Re: Menu button with different fonts in label and menu?
> Sent: Aug 25, 2010 8:47 AM
>
> When you say graying out the text, have you set the blendLevel of the field
> to some number, like 50? If so, you can see the underlying object, but the
> text is grayed. Try setting the "transparent" of the field instead. Then
> the
> text remains sharp, and only the white space is removed.
>
> As for letting messages through, I think you will have to script this,
> sending a mouseUp to the object of interest explicitly. The lockText of the
> field should be set to "true".
>
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Re: The State of the Art of Auto Upgrading - How do You Do It?

[Chipp Walters]

Sivakatirswami,

Send me a private email and I can get you the latest. I'm really busy
right now and don't have time to update the files or site.

On Wednesday, August 25, 2010, Web Admin Himalayan Academy
 wrote:
>  Chipp, I see last mod dates of 8/25... did you update the pages/files?
>
> On 8/25/10 5:04 AM, stephen barncard wrote:
>
> Thanks, Chipp,
>
> btw,
> The download inks there are broken.
>
> sqb
>
> On 25 August 2010 03:52, Chipp Walters  wrote:
>
>
> Here's a very old website which describes how MagicCarpet works:
> http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/MagicCarpetAAA/default.htm
>
> The files are old-- I should update with newer files. But the theory is the
> same. Plus, I've added a new plugin to make configuration a bit easier.
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