Re: Stackrunner
On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: > I'm not 100% sure how to do this. I guess it means finding where the > image library stack is then issuing a command of some sort when my app > starts up to bring that stack into my stack file? That's the general idea. You find the stack that contains the images you are using as button icons, make a copy of it, then include it with your mainstack. You could even make it a substack of your mainstack to keep it in the same stack file. Then, in the stack that uses the images, include the statement, probably in a preOpenStack handler: start using stack "myIconStack" --or whatever it's called. Once you do that all images in the used stack are available to be used in the calling stack. Devin > On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:24 AM, Devin Asay wrote: > >> >> On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: >> >>> Thanks. It will be a huge amount of work for me to change icon >>> numbers everywhere so I guess Stackrunner won't work for me. Oh >>> well! >> >> Pete, >> >> You could include the Image Library stack with your stack and start >> using it when it's opened by Stack Runner. >> >> Devin >> >> >>> >>> Pete Haworth >>> >>> On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:02 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: >>> >>>> On 11/17/10 11:45 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: >>>>> Just started using this and very happy but have come across a >>>>> problem >>>>> regarding button icons. I imported a set of icons into the image >>>>> library >>>>> in the IDE and refer to the icon numbers within the Image Library >>>>> when >>>>> specifying icons for buttons. All works fine in the IDE and >>>>> standalone >>>>> but in Stackrunner the icons are not displayed and the buttons are >>>>> invisible. I can click on them OK (if I guess where they are!). Any >>>>> ideas as to why this might be happening? >>>> >>>> The IDE and the standalones it builds know about the image library, >>>> but StackRunner does not. The best way to make your images always >>>> available is to import them directly into your stack (the IDs will >>>> change) and refer to the embedded image IDs as your icons. Those >>>> will work anywhere. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com >>>> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com >>>> ___ >>>> use-revolution mailing list >>>> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >>>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>>> subscription preferences: >>>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >>>> >>> >>> ___ >>> use-revolution mailing list >>> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> >> Devin Asay >> Humanities Technology and Research Support Center >> Brigham Young University >> >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stackrunner
On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: > Thanks. It will be a huge amount of work for me to change icon > numbers everywhere so I guess Stackrunner won't work for me. Oh well! Pete, You could include the Image Library stack with your stack and start using it when it's opened by Stack Runner. Devin > > Pete Haworth > > On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:02 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > >> On 11/17/10 11:45 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: >>> Just started using this and very happy but have come across a problem >>> regarding button icons. I imported a set of icons into the image >>> library >>> in the IDE and refer to the icon numbers within the Image Library >>> when >>> specifying icons for buttons. All works fine in the IDE and >>> standalone >>> but in Stackrunner the icons are not displayed and the buttons are >>> invisible. I can click on them OK (if I guess where they are!). Any >>> ideas as to why this might be happening? >> >> The IDE and the standalones it builds know about the image library, >> but StackRunner does not. The best way to make your images always >> available is to import them directly into your stack (the IDs will >> change) and refer to the embedded image IDs as your icons. Those >> will work anywhere. >> >> -- >> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com >> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> > > _______ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Posting binary data
On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: > Hi Devin, > > Before using the post command, execute the following line: > > set the httpHeaders to "Content-type: application/binary" & cr & \ > "Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary" & cr & \ > "Content-Length: " > > Let us know if this works for you. Thanks, Mark. I'll have my student try that and report back. Devin > On 17 nov 2010, at 20:04, Devin Asay wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> One of my students is doing a Rev project in which he needs to post binary >> data (a .mov file, in this case) to a web server. I've never done this, but >> I'm told that in a standard web form one sets the enctype attribute of a >> form input to indicate that the data being posted is binary. >> >> How would you do this using a Rev--errr--LiveCode post statement? >> >> Thanks >> >> Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Posting binary data
Hi all, One of my students is doing a Rev project in which he needs to post binary data (a .mov file, in this case) to a web server. I've never done this, but I'm told that in a standard web form one sets the enctype attribute of a form input to indicate that the data being posted is binary. How would you do this using a Rev--errr--LiveCode post statement? Thanks Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Windows Version problems
On Nov 17, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: > Hi Dixie, > > I guess it IS a little confusing. I have a main-stack and two sub-stacks. The > user has to answer questions presented in the Main-stack. The information > required to answer the questions is located in one of the sub-stacks - The > Reference Stack. When a question is presented in the Main-stack, information > that will allow the question to be answered is presented by opening and going > to a card in the sub-stack that contains that information. That is done > automatically when the user goes to a card in the Main-stack with each > question. The user must read the information and then return to the > Main-stack to answer the question. The questions and the process are quite > complex. Sometimes the user must answer a series of other questions in the > sub-stack before s/he can answer the Main-stack question. Those questions are > presented in yet a third stack. Based on how each of these questions is > answered, eventually a report is generated that tells the user what they must > do to their project in order to make it compliant with a set of rules that > are outlined in the Reference Sub-stack. As I said, it IS quite complex. > > Less confused? Probably not! (smile) Joe, It might work to use push card and pop card. The push card list can allow you to go several "layers" in to a series of cards, and then you should be able to "backtrack" out of the series using pop card. You'd have to be scrupulous about always matching pushes with pops to end up at the original location, but it should work reliably, regardless of whether the 'pushed' cards are in a substack, mainstack or even a completely different stack file. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Please suggest script
On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Timothy Miller wrote: > Thanks Andre! > > I think you might have misunderstood my request. What I want to do is pretty > simple. I will manually locate web URLs, and hilite them manually. They are > in plain text. Then I want to click a button that will turn the hilited > plain-text URL into a clickable link. By "clickable link" I mean I want it to > open the URL in my web browser. > > I tried: > > get the selectedText > revGoUrl it > > That worked, to my amazement. Cool. Didn't know about RevGoUrl. > > OTOH, the docs say revGoUrl is deprecated. I'm not sure what to use instead. > > I want the same link to be clickable next time I come across it. I know how > to set the textstyle of the selectedText to "link", but that doesn't make it > a clickable link. > > Hope that's clear. Tim, It's pretty simple: The link-making button: on mouseUp set the textStyle of the selectedChunk to "link" end mouseUp In the field that has the linked text: on linkClicked pTxt launch url pTxt end linkClicked That should do what you want. Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Functions in the on-rev - LC server script
On Nov 16, 2010, at 9:40 AM, paolo mazza wrote: > How can I place a function in a on-rev - CGI server script ? > I have to port a stack script (with commands and functions) to a .irev text > file for the on-rev server . > I expected something similar to the following script... > >put MyFunction() into tVAR1 > put tVAR1 > > function MyFunction > put 1 + 1 into VAR2 > return VAR2 > end MyFunction > > ?> > ... but obviously it does not work !!! > > Any idea? Paolo, In irev scripts you have to declare the function before you call it, so just put the function handler at the top: Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revServer Documentation
On Nov 11, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: > > Hey all, > > I am getting my hands wet for the first time playing with revServer through > my on-rev account. I couldn't find much information on its features and what > is and isn't available to revServer on the samples site. This seems to be > the only documentation I could find. > > Is there a dictionary or a user guide or a different mailing list for > revServer that I can refer to? Also, are there any good third party hubs for > revServer articles or samples? Hi Andrew, I think you'll enjoy learning irev scripting. It opens up a new world of possibilities. You should have gotten a link to a document from runrev when you signed up for your on-rev account, which lists the salient differences between LiveCode development and irev scripting. That's a good reference but doesn't give many concrete examples. Here are a couple of places to start: Sarah Reichelt's on-rev links at http://www.troz.net/. She has lots of really good, well-documented examples, along with links to other sites. In my class last winter I taught a module on server-side scripting with Rev. You're welcome to peruse the notes and see if they are helpful. Just go to http://revolution.byu.edu and click on Introduction to Programming Revolution. Then scroll down to the section called Server-side Scripting with revTalk. Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Beachball cursor Help
On Nov 9, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Peter Brigham MD wrote: > On Nov 9, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Devin Asay wrote: > >> So it seems like you could just set the cursor to the image id of >> your choosing, and increment it in a repeat loop, just like 'set >> cursor to busy'. Not tested: >> >> put 67890,67891,67892,67893,67894,67895,67896,67897 into tAnimCursor >> repeat with i = 1 to 100 >> put item i wrap (the number of items in tAnimCursor) of tAnimCursor >> into tCurrentCursor >> set the cursor to tCurrentCursor >> wait 10 >> end repeat >> >> Seems like this ought to work. > > Well, OK, but I went ahead and used the http://ajaxload.info/ site to > download a great animated GIF cursor. So what do I do with that to > extract the individual images and list them separately in a loop? It > does seem that setting a cursor to an animated GIF ought to work out > of the box the way setting a button icon to an animated GIF does > But if there's a workaround for cursors I'd settle for that for now. If you open an animated GIF in Preview on OS X it should show each frame separately. You could save each frame separately, then import them all into rev, give them consecutive IDs and use a routine similar to the one above (or the one Richard G. posted) and it ought to work. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Beachball cursor Help
On Nov 9, 2010, at 6:38 AM, Peter Brigham MD wrote: > I'm just fooling around with trying out an animated cursor, and I > can't get it to work. I tried importing an animated GIF then setting > the cursor to it, but I only get what looks like an opaque white mask > of the first frame of the GIF and no animation. Do I conclude that I > have to cycle through the frames of the GIF explicitly via script? I > would have thought that just setting the cursor to the image id number > would take care of that. I can do this with a button icon -- just > setting the icon of the button to the image ID of the GIF results in a > nice animated button image. Why doesn't his work with a cursor? Peter, When I have used animated gifs, I've just shown then hidden an image object. Of course, that's not really the same because they don't follow your mouse movement like a mouse cursor. I'm not sure exactly what's going on behind the scenes with the 'busy' cursor. I got curious and looked into it. The cursor icons are in a stack called "revCursors" for Windows and *nix, and a stack called "revMacCursors" for Mac OS. They're just image objects. I would think you could just replace the existing images with your own colorized ones, making sure the image ids match, and it should "just work". That said, LiveCard 4.5 is supposed to have enhanced cursor support, including cursors with alpha blending. So it seems like you could just set the cursor to the image id of your choosing, and increment it in a repeat loop, just like 'set cursor to busy'. Not tested: put 67890,67891,67892,67893,67894,67895,67896,67897 into tAnimCursor repeat with i = 1 to 100 put item i wrap (the number of items in tAnimCursor) of tAnimCursor into tCurrentCursor set the cursor to tCurrentCursor wait 10 end repeat Seems like this ought to work. Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Beachball cursor Help
Joe, I'd use a spinning daisy cursor. See http://ajaxload.info/ for a slick utility that will generate a custom animated gif for you. Devin On Nov 8, 2010, at 8:46 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: > Hi all, > > Instead of the b/w cursor "busy", I'd love to use the more colorful > beachball. Anyone know how that is accomplished? > TIA > Joe Wilkins > > > > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Removing Unwanted Characters From a Web Form Submission
On Nov 8, 2010, at 6:00 AM, Gregory Lypny wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I'm building an On-Rev site, and one of the pages will be a form with a field > that is intended for the submission of about a page of comments. I want to > gather the submissions and process them as an array in LiveCode with the > contents of another form field as the key. It would look something like > > stringKey1 longStringOfComments1 > stringKey2 longStringOfComments2 > stringKey3 longStringOfComments3 > > and so on. I need to convert the comments to a string by removing line feeds > and perhaps other characters that might cause problems. Is removing Return > and Tab enough? > > replace return with space in longStringOfCommentsNum > replace tab with space in longStringOfCommentsNum > > Because it is coming down from a server, I'm not sure whether I should refer > to other linefeed characters and what those are. Gregory, If you want to be sure of catching all line delimiting characters you could do this: replace (numToChar(13) & numToChar(10)) with space in tComments replace numToChar(13) with space in tComments replace numToChar(10) with space in tComments As far as which other characters you should remove, have you considered just using urlEncode/urlDecode? It's not specifically intended for this situation, but I would think urlEncode would safely convert any problematic characters, then you could urlDecode the string before you display it again. Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: standalone image problem
On Nov 6, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Devin Asay wrote: > >> The tricky thing about standalone apps on OS X is that, if you >> do not set the defaultFolder in the stack, the defaultFolder >> will be the folder where the .app bundle resides. > > For many years the engine used the folder where the executable resides > as the defaultFolder, which for Mac was inside the bundle - when did > this change? I do remember it changing, but I don't remember exactly when. It's actually really handy, because you can choose to have the .app bundle's parent folder be the defaultFolder, or you can set it explicitly and hide all of your resource files and stacks inside the .app bundle. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: standalone image problem
Edward, The tricky thing about standalone apps on OS X is that, if you do not set the defaultFolder in the stack, the defaultFolder will be the folder where the .app bundle resides. If you do set the defaultfolder to be the folder where the stack resides, as John has shown in his example, when you create a standalone out of the stack, the defaultFolder is *inside* the .app bundle. See my note in the dictionary under defaultFolder for more details. Regards, Devin On Nov 6, 2010, at 4:05 AM, John Dixon wrote: > > Hi Edward... > > Will this work for you ? > > global gtheFolder > > on preopenstack > set itemDel to "/" > put item 1 to -2 of (the effective fileName of this stack) & "/resources" > into gtheFolder > set the defaultfolder to gtheFolder > > --set the topleft of this stack to 30,30 > --set the defaultfolder to "resources/" > set the decorations of this stack to "title,close" > set the topleft of this stack to 0,0 > set the height of this stack to 750 > set the width of this stack to 1280 > set the loc of this stack to 640,400 > hide menubar > end preopenstack > > on openCard > global pname > set the filename of image 1 to "./resources/BKG.paneling.jpg" > set the filename of image 2 to "./resources/deck_animation.gif" > set the currenttime of player 1 to 0 > set the filename of player 1 to "./resources/river1" > start player 1 > end openCard > > be well > > Dixie > >> From: etcaw...@fastmail.fm >> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 04:21:14 -0500 >> To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Subject: standalone image problem >> >> >> I'm trying to build for both Mac OS X and windows, but I'm concentrating on >> Mac until I get it to work. I have Snow Leopard installed.The folder >> structure is ./Resources/map_animation.gif for a typical file I have >> included the open stack code and the opencard code for one of the cards. I >> also will include(attached) screen capture of the folders location . As I >> said the stack works, ie. clik on the field or button and it will go to the >> next cd, all the text files are read and shown but the images (gif & jpeg), >> audio, and one video clip do not show. Since it is showing the files it >> looks like it is finding the files in the folder but not showing them. >> >> on preopenstack >> --set the topleft of this stack to 30,30 >> set the defaultfolder to "resources/" >> set the decorations of this stack to "title,close" >> set the topleft of this stack to 0,0 >> set the height of this stack to 750 >> set the width of this stack to 1280 >> set the loc of this stack to 640,400 >> hide menubar >> end preopenstack >> >> on openCard >> global pname >> set the filename of image 1 to "resources/BKG.paneling.jpg" >> set the filename of image 2 to "resources/deck_animation.gif" >> set the currenttime of player 1 to 0 >> set the filename of player 1 to "resources/river1" >> start player 1 >> end openCard >> >> >> On Nov 5, 2010, at 11:02 AM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: >> >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 11:36:39 -0600 >>> From: Devin Asay >>> Subject: Re: image files in standalone >>> To: How to use Revolution >>> Message-ID: <3b2c6b00-1e04-4fb2-a629-d9a0f3785...@byu.edu> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> >>> On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:07 AM, edward cawley wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hello Edward, >>> >>> What platform are you building for? What does your folder structure look >>> like? Do you set the defaultFolder in order to locate the resource folder? >>> >>> Devin >>> >>> >>> >>> Devin Asay >>> Humanities Technology and Research Support Center >>> Brigham Young University >>> >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: image files in standalone
On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:07 AM, edward cawley wrote: > I have an app which has about 100 images and text files which are sent to 16 > cards. The text image and audio files are all in a resources folder. > Everything works fine on my desktop, but when I try to build a desktop it is > made and will run but while the text files are read from the resources folder > and buttons work fine the images,audio and one video do not show. the image > areas show but the images are not loaded. an example of the image files: < > resources/deck_animation.gif> Hello Edward, What platform are you building for? What does your folder structure look like? Do you set the defaultFolder in order to locate the resource folder? Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where's my keyboard shortcut for "import as control"?
On Nov 1, 2010, at 11:57 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 11/1/10 10:40 AM, tkuyp...@telenet.be wrote: >> Could be me, but I'm missing the keyboard shortcut for importing an image >> into a stack... >> It was still there in LiveCode 4.5.0 build 1080, but it is gone in the >> versions after that. >> (at least on my Mac, didn't try Windows...) >> >> Can someone confirm this? > > Yes, I miss it too. I used it all the time, so I'm considering hacking > the IDE to add it back. :) Wow, I didn't notice this missing until you guys mentioned it. I've added it to the bug report. Also missing are: Shift+Cmd+S and Shift+Cmd+C for opening the stack and card scripts, although in the latter two cases the shortcut works, but doesn't appear in the menu. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where's my keyboard shortcut for "import as control"?
On Nov 1, 2010, at 9:40 AM, tkuyp...@telenet.be wrote: > Could be me, but I'm missing the keyboard shortcut for importing an image > into a stack... > It was still there in LiveCode 4.5.0 build 1080, but it is gone in the > versions after that. > (at least on my Mac, didn't try Windows...) > > Can someone confirm this? > > Ton Kuypers Ton, I noticed it and reported it: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=9160 It's now been confirmed, so I hope it reappears in 4.5.1. Groetjes, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode applications accepted in iOS App Store
Seems in line with similar apps. 1 - 2 seconds on my 1st Gen iPod Touch. Devin On Oct 27, 2010, at 11:26 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: > Cool! > > Unfortunately for me, the games category is not available here. Can someone > who installed this version comment on launch times? > > Andre > > On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Kevin Miller wrote: > >> On 27/10/2010 18:14, "Colin Holgate" wrote: >> >>> It's a shame that it's not iPad too, because the multitouch works well. I >> got >>> 41 sheep on my iPhone and 58 on my iPad. >> >> There are lots of things we could add to this game. Really though the >> purpose of the application wasn't to use and support every last feature or >> produce a best seller, it was to get the binaries and associated data into >> the right format so that they would pass the submission process. Which they >> now have. We have another app that's a bit more sophisticated that should >> be >> going live any time now too. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Kevin >> >> Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ >> LiveCode - Realize fast, compile-free coding >> >> >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> > > > > -- > http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. > _______ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode applications accepted in iOS App Store
Kevin, Congratulations! What is the name of the App? I'd love to download it and have a look! Devin On Oct 26, 2010, at 12:56 PM, Kevin Miller wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Some exciting news for you all! > > http://www.runrev.com/company/runrev-blog/ > Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revServer installation issues
On Oct 21, 2010, at 8:02 PM, Phil Davis wrote: > Thanks Andre! This is a crazy problem. I just made the changes you recommend > and > added the .htaccess back into the mix, but no joy! I'm guessing I made a > change > to my httpd.conf at some point without commenting it and that's what is > keeping > your solution from working here. I'll see if I can track it down and post an > explanation. > > However I am not without a solution: Mike sent me a copy of his httpd.conf, I > replaced mine with it and *BAM* my .irev pages are now working! Can you do a diff on the two conf files and maybe find where yours went wrong? > > I am truly amazed at (and grateful for) the level of support provided by you > guys, Andre and Mike, and so many other people on this list. It's an honor to > be Ditto. This list is one of the best things about the LiveCode community. Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Tabbing out of a text field
On Oct 21, 2010, at 4:02 PM, RevList wrote: > Craig Newman on October 21, 2010 at 1:45 PM -0700 wrote: >> You could trap the "tabKey" message. > > There has to be something else. I am looking at an earlier project that I > developed and I have a field that when I press TAB, I am moved on to the > next field, just as if I had pressed Return. > I see no trapping of the TabKey in that project. > > What am I missing? Or what should I look for. > I want to have fields that have one line of entry only and when you press > Tab, it moves on to the next field. > I have set the field to be "Tab on Return" so that traps the return key, > but pressing TAB, adds a tab to text. > In my earlier project it just moves on. > Help :) Is traversalOn set to true for the fields? Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revServer installation issues
On Oct 20, 2010, at 11:01 PM, Phil Davis wrote: > On 10/20/10 4:57 PM, Devin Asay wrote: >> Phil, >> >> It seems clear that the config file isn't quite right, and that the >> revServer engine isn't being launched. Where are your revServer files >> installed, > > /Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables > I copied all the files from the 'revserver' folder into the 'CGI-Executables' > folder - without the enclosing 'revserver' folder. > >> ... and can you post the mods you made to your httpd.conf file? > > My mods were applied to the /private/etc/apache2/httpd.conf file, and each > changed line has a '## PD 201010xx' tag on the end of it. > > First, for the record: > DocumentRoot "/Library/WebServer/Documents" > > Note - I tried adding some directives in an .htaccess file inside this > directory > but since removed the file. > > > --- Now the first set of changes - > > > AddHandler irev-script .irev ## PD 20101018 added > Action irev-script /cgi-bin/revserver ## PD 20101018 added Phil, I had to do it this way: Action irev-script /cgi-bin/revserver/revserver Because I had moved the entire revserver folder into cgi-bin (well, really CGI-Executables.) Until I did I was having similar problems to yours. In other words the Action had to point to the executable file, not just the enclosing folder. I'm more a blunder-around-in-the-dark guy when it comes to this stuff, so it's probably just an accident that I got it to work. :-) Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revServer installation issues
Phil, It seems clear that the config file isn't quite right, and that the revServer engine isn't being launched. Where are your revServer files installed, and can you post the mods you made to your httpd.conf file? Also, which OS version are you running? Devin On Oct 20, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Phil Davis wrote: > Hey folks - > > I'm trying to figure out where I'm going wrong as I try to get revServer > going > on my Mac Mini. I have followed all the advice (I think) in the great emails > from Devin Asay and Mike Bonner from July 20 and I see my test.irev page > being > served but without the stuff being preprocessed - in fact the > HTML > isn't rendered as HTML either; it all comes into my browser window as text. > > Any clues? > > Yes, I'm restarting apache after making each carefully-commented-so-I > can-back-out change to httpd.conf. My apache logs don't show anything unusual. > > My outcomes don't seem any different whether the revserver filess are owned > by > nobody:wheel or phil:admin. > > Thanks for any ideas. > -- > Phil Davis > > PDS Labs > Professional Software Development > http://pdslabs.net > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: On-Rev Webpage variable posting
On Oct 19, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Rick Harrison wrote:
> Hi Devin,
>
> Yes, I don't want to use cookies.
>
> I tried the hidden inputs technique without success.
> I'm not sure why it didn't work. Do you have an example
> of hidden inputs so I could see what I might be doing wrong?
Rick,
Here's a simple example I put together for my class:
http://chum.dev.on-rev.com/teacher/makeReport.irev
This file uses a GET method to send data to a second file, configReport.irev.
The second file in turn POSTs to a third file, displayReport.irev. File 2 has
to pass along a value from File 1 to file 3, and uses a hidden input to do the
job. The only reason I used GET in one form and POST in the other was to show
my class an example of using each one. You can use all GETs or all POSTs if you
want.
Here's the relevant section from makeReport.irev:
Select the Report Area:
People
Departments
Here is the relevant stuff from configReport.irev. The "choice" input is
hidden, and passes the value along from the form in makeReport.irev.
Configure your " & tWhich & " report:" & return
put "" & return
put "" &
return
put "Include the following information:" & return
if tWhich is "people" then
put "Department " & return
put "Phone Number " & return
put "Office " & return
else if tWhich is "department" then
put "Supervisor " & return
put "Dept. Phone Number " & return
put "Office " & return
end if
put "" & return
put ""
put ""
put ""
?>
Finally, here is the relevant excerpt from displayReport.irev, with database
login info sanitized:
First nameLast name" into tHeader
if tIncludeDept <> empty then
put comma & "dept" after tQuery
put "Department" after tHeader
end if
if tIncludePhone <> empty then
put comma & "phone" after tQuery
put "Phone" after tHeader
end if
if tIncludeOffice <> empty then
put comma & "office" after tQuery
put "Office" after tHeader
end if
else if tWhich is "department" then
put $_POST["supervisor"] into tIncludeSuper
put $_POST["phone"] into tIncludePhone
put $_POST["office"] into tIncludeOffice
put "SELECT name" into tQuery
put "Dept name" into tHeader
if tIncludeSuper <> empty then
put comma & "supervisor" after tQuery
put "Supervisor" after tHeader
end if
if tIncludePhone <> empty then
put comma & "phone" after tQuery
put "Phone" after tHeader
end if
if tIncludeOffice <> empty then
put comma & "office" after tQuery
put "Office" after tHeader
end if
end if
put " FROM " & tWhich after tQuery
# create database connection
put tQuery & "" --debugging
put revOpenDatabase("mysql","my.server.com","acmeco",\
"username","password") into tConnID
put revDataFromQuery(,,tConnID,tQuery) into tReport
revCloseDatabase tConnID
put "" & return
put "" & tHeader & "" & return
set the itemDelimiter to tab
repeat for each line tLine in tReport
replace tab with "" in tLine
put "" & tLine & "" & return after tFormattedRept
end repeat
put tFormattedRept
put ""
?>
Hope you find this helpful.
Regards,
Devin
Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University
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Re: On-Rev Webpage variable posting
On Oct 19, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Rick Harrison wrote: > > I have a webpage on On-Rev with input fields which are > posted to another webpage just fine. > > I now want to pass that posted information onto yet another > webpage before committing any of the data to > a database using .irev files. What’s the best way to do this? Rick, If you don't want to deal with cookies (I know I don't), what I always do is just pass those values along as hidden inputs in a form. Works great. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: on-rev database help
On Oct 16, 2010, at 12:34 PM, Bill Ziegler wrote: > I'm not even sure if I'm asking the question correctly. > > I've made a simple time tracking database for my colleagues. Dates, fill-ins, > drop downs etc. I'm not using any of the sophisticated Rev DB tools or SQL. I > am just saving each collection of responses in separate fields. I also have a > button that exports as a text file all info with records on separate lines, > commas between items. Each teacher keeps their own stack on their laptop. > When our supervisor needs to do a report for the school districts, each of > the 13 teacher/consultants will generate the data-text file and send it to > her. She will then import each text file into excel to do her sorts and > reports. > > Every time she needs to do an update, she'll need to ask us to send our > latest data and create a new excel to keep the data correct. I do have an > on-rev server account. I did attend and have the dvds for rev-live Las Vegas. > I do own the DVDs from the On-Rev Edinburgh conference, but haven't had time > to watch them yet. I know RunRev/Live Code fairly well. I do not know SQL. > > Questions > > 1. Can I put my existing stack on my on-rev server account for multiple > people to use at one time? > > 2. Can I put my existing stack on our school server for multiple people to > use at one time? > > 3. Am i up-that-creek for not knowing SQL? > > 4. If (I) and (2) are possible with or without SQL what's my best option to > learn how to do whatever I'll need to do. Hi Bill, The basics of SQL are not at all difficult to learn, if you decide to go that route. Jacque and I covered them in the Edinburgh conference Day 0 session, which should be on the DVD. I also did an expanded version of the same material in my class last winter. The notes are still online at http://revolution.byu.edu. Just click the Introduction to Programming in Rev link, then scroll down to the section on Database Access in Rev. Immediately above that section are some links to server-side scripting using Rev. One of those links deals with doing database access in irev scripts. True, there is a bit of a learning curve when using backend databases, but once you figure it out, your life will never be the same. Database access opens up a whole world of new possibilities. Good luck! Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Geometry settings...
On Oct 15, 2010, at 4:08 PM, John Dixon wrote: > > Hi... > > Is it possible to set the geometry of an object by script so that the > settings are then reflected in that objects' inspector ? > > be well Yes. There are many properties that can be set, like height, width, rectangle, left, right, etc. Usually after you've set them by script you have to force the property inspector to update itself before the new settings are shown. For example, you could close and reopen the inspector, or switch to another pane of the inspector then switch back. Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Simple RPN Calculator on RevOnline
On Oct 14, 2010, at 1:09 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 10/14/10 1:29 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: >> Richmond. >> >> This is the second time I have done this. >> >> I need more rest. > > Or maybe he should just change his name. I know I've asked a few of the > Marks on this list to do that. None of them took me up on it. Whoa! Jacque, Jacque. People who live in adolescent-humor-evoking-last-name houses should not throw stones! Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Moving 2 object at the same time ...
On Oct 11, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Jean-Pierre Soto wrote: > Hello, > > I want to move to image on the screen in the same time. I try to use > the lockMove property but the image jump directly from start to end > of the move. > > Can anyBody help me with that ? Jean-Pierre, Add the phrase 'without waiting' after your move command. That should allow you to issue two move commands one after another, and both objects will move at the same time. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] Non-English voices on Mac VoiceOver
Sorry for the off-topic post, but I seem to remember that there are folks here who have dealt with usability and visual impairment issues. We have a potential need to support visually-impaired, non-English speakers in our Mac labs (running 10.6) with screen reading technology. Does anyone know good sources for non-English synthesized voices, as well as guidance in using them? TIA, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: MYSQL timeout
On Sep 28, 2010, at 7:20 PM, Terry Judd wrote: > The problem of lengthy timeouts when trying to connect to a MSQL server that > is down/offline is bugging me again. It seems like the default timeout is 60 > seconds which is way too long to wait for a response but there's no obvious > way to override it. The socketTimeoutInterval has no effect and while I've > got some old code laying around that suggests setting an environment > variable ($MYSQL_CLIENT_TIMEOUT) it doesn't work either. > > Any ideas? Terry, Have you tried this on LiveCard 4.5? According to the release notes, there was an engine change that made opening sockets non-blocking, but I don't know whether that affects MySQL connections. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: What have I done?
Luxury! I dream about having a register! All I have is the bottom of a rusty soup tin, and I have to scratch tick marks on it with a broken stick! On Sep 27, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: > at least you got 8k... all I have are a couple registers and a very short > stack... > > On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 1:28 PM, James Hurley > wrote: > >> Craig and Mark, >> >> That was the problem. I have a vague recollection of changing that in the >> preference dialog box just to see what would happen, and then the phone >> rang. By the time I got of the phone my short term memory bank had been >> reprogrammed. I used to have about 68 K short term memory. It has dwindled >> to about 8 k. Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Two On-Rev Scripts on One Web Page
On Sep 15, 2010, at 10:02 AM, Gregory Lypny wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I have an On-Rev script called from an HTML markup item in a web page. It > works fine in that the information I want generated is displayed. I call the > script like this (thanks for help with the syntax, André): > > > > The trouble is, if I put the exact same statement in another HTML markup item > anywhere else on the page, nothing is displayed and other static text items > on the page are blanked out. The implication seems to be that more than one > reference, using Include, to On-Rev scripts cannot exist on the same page. > Is that correct or am I doing something wrong (likely)? If the second item > does not use an include statement to reference a script but is a script > itself, then there is no problem. For example, > > > > works fine on the same page with myScript.irev. > > Any thoughts? Gregory, I'm not the expert on revServer scripting by any means, but as far as I know you only need to issue an include statement one time for any given page. The included file should then be available to any script segments on the page. I find it really helpful during development to enable inline error reporting: That will show any errors generated by your rev code. HTH Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting started with databases
On Sep 15, 2010, at 4:56 AM, Tim Lambert wrote: > Hello > I am a long time user of Rev but have always developed databases with FMPro > advanced. Time to try to make the move to Rev. > With big amounts of data and lots of tables joining etc, it all looks pretty > arcane to me. > > Can anyone recommend any aids memoire or templates or anything to help a > database slow-coach along? Tim, I created a series of lessons on databases in Rev for my students. You may find it helpful. Just go to http://revolution.byu.edu and click on the link "Introduction to Programming in Revolution". Then look for a section, near the bottom called "Database Access in Revolution". Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Waiting for DNS to update a new site.
Works here. I notice that sometimes the DNS cache on my Mac needs to be flushed after a DNS change. If she's on a mac that might be the issue. On OS X 10.5 and higher the shell command to do this is: dscacheutil -flushcache HTH Devin On Sep 14, 2010, at 4:17 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: > > Off-topic - but I could do with a favour. > > I'm helping a friend develop a new web site, and although I created it a > couple of days ago, it (apparently) isn't yet visible to her. I can't > tell whether it's simply a DNS delay - just longer than I'm used to, or > some other problem. > > So could a few of you let me know whether or not you can reach > http://www.melaniechmielewska.co.uk > (and if you can see it, any other comments are welcome; note the gallery > and corbel photos are incomplete, but they will be there tomorrow ) > > And, to be slightly more general - anyone know of a service / website > that will let you check DNS name visibility in a number of locations > around the web ? I tried the one at > http://www.mob.net/~ted/tools/dns.php3 but wasn't convinced it is very > authoritative. > > Thanks > -- Alex. > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: on-rev forum
On Sep 14, 2010, at 11:16 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 9/14/10 10:31 AM, Devin Asay wrote: >> >> On Sep 14, 2010, at 9:09 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: >>> >>> >>> Wait -- I assumed you meant the regular RR forums. There's an on-rev >>> forum? Did I miss something? >> >> Umm, yes. Have you really never seen it? Go to on-rev.com, then click >> Support> Forums. >> >> Hey, everyone! I knew something Jacque didn't know!! > > The older I get, the more everyone knows stuff I don't know. :) I found > it before you posted though -- but it's pretty empty. In fact, there's a > checkbox at the bottom that says "forum locked". I don't know what > that's all about. I didn't look at more than the first screen, since I > already suffer from information overload. It was actually pretty active the first few weeks and months after on-rev was introduced. There are some really good posts from last summer, for instance. IIRC, when you first go there it shows up as "locked" until you log in with your on-rev account info. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: on-rev forum
On Sep 14, 2010, at 9:09 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > > Wait -- I assumed you meant the regular RR forums. There's an on-rev > forum? Did I miss something? Umm, yes. Have you really never seen it? Go to on-rev.com, then click Support > Forums. Hey, everyone! I knew something Jacque didn't know!! :-) Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Ft Gay, GA
Hey, it's my democratic right to worship cheeses! It makes me feel gay, in the traditional meaning of the term! (Did I fit in all of the forbidden themes?) Happy Friday! Except for those of you who are already at Saturday. Devin On Sep 10, 2010, at 12:21 PM, Heather Nagey wrote: > You are Bd people. Tapping desk. Shaking stern finger. Tutting. > > lol > > What am I to do with you all? Its lucky I'm in an exceptionally good > mood since yesterday afternoon! > > Heather > > On 10 Sep 2010, at 18:55, J. Landman Gay wrote: > >> On 9/10/10 12:32 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: >>> Friday, September 10, 2010, 2:31:58 AM, Heather wrote: >>> >>>> No religion, politics, cheese and sexual preferences. >>> >>> ...actually, I read that as (cheese and sexual) preferences and then >>> my brain got a bit bogged down trying to deal with it... >>> >> >> Seems pretty straightforward to me. No sex with cheese. Or at least, >> keep it to yourself. >> >> Heather is going to have a lot of moderating to do after this... >> >> -- >> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com >> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > Heather Nagey > Customer Services Manager > http://www.runrev.com/ > RunRev - Software construction for everyone > follow me on twitter > http://www.twitter.com/lainopik > > _______ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Accessing custom props using array notation
On Aug 19, 2010, at 10:25 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: > On 19/08/2010 17:16, "Devin Asay" wrote: > >> True enough, but can you do the opposite? >> >> put "state" & 1 into tPropName >> put the tPropName of image "myImg" into foo >> >> Unless memory fails, you can't do that--I've tried it; i.e., you can't >> dynamically build property names to access existing custom props. >> >> I would be love to be proven wrong. ;-) > > Well it should work and it does here. Well, shut my mouth! That'll teach me to rely on faulty memory! (I blame space aliens and nano-brain-implants.) This works perfectly: put "state" & tNum into tMyProp set the text of img "myImg" of me to the tmyProp of img "myImg" Jacque, could I get a copy of your time warp stack so I can not write my original post yesterday? Thanks, Kevin! Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Accessing custom props using array notation
On Aug 19, 2010, at 10:00 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: > > Can't you do something like this: > > put "xyz" into tVar > set the tVar of btn 1 to "a" > > You'll end up with a property called xyz that contains "a" in the default > set. True enough, but can you do the opposite? put "state" & 1 into tPropName put the tPropName of image "myImg" into foo Unless memory fails, you can't do that--I've tried it; i.e., you can't dynamically build property names to access existing custom props. I would be love to be proven wrong. ;-) Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Accessing custom props using array notation
On Aug 19, 2010, at 4:43 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: > Devin, > > Put the custom prop into an array var, then you can access the contents. > > put the uMyArray of btn "test" into tArray > put tArray["prop1"] into tVar Thanks Chipp. That works if the custom prop is an array to start with, but my question is whether it is possible to access all kinds of custom property data in the default custom property set using array notation. Here's the situation: I have an image object that has several different visual states. The state is represented by image data stored in custom properties of the image, labeled like this: state1 state2 state3 state4 When I want to change visual states I simply set the image text to one of the custom properties. It would be much easier to do if I could do something like this: set the text of img "myImg" to the customKeys["state" & currStateNum] of img "myImg" Instead, I have to construct clumsy "do" statements to make the changes. Unfortunately this doesn't work when using properties in the default set. It does work when you have created the properties in your own sets: set the text of img "myImg" to the myPropSet["state" & currStateNum] of img "myImg" (From memory, so I may be missing a detail of the syntax.) So the question is, can you access non-array data in custom props using array syntax when using just the default property set? Devin > > On Wednesday, August 18, 2010, Devin Asay wrote: >> Anyone know if it's possible to access custom properties from an objects >> default custom property set using array notation? This is easy to do for >> custom property sets you create yourself. >> >> set the myPropSet["prop1"] of btn "myBtn" to "foo" -- works >> >> But I can't figure out if you can do the same thing with the default set: >> >> put the customKeys["prop1"] of img "myImg" into "bar" -- doesn't work >> >> If this could be done it would be nice for constructing custom property >> names dynamically when access custom props, as in a sequence of prop names >> like prop1, prop2, prop3, etc. >> Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Accessing custom props using array notation
Anyone know if it's possible to access custom properties from an objects default custom property set using array notation? This is easy to do for custom property sets you create yourself. set the myPropSet["prop1"] of btn "myBtn" to "foo" -- works But I can't figure out if you can do the same thing with the default set: put the customKeys["prop1"] of img "myImg" into "bar" -- doesn't work If this could be done it would be nice for constructing custom property names dynamically when access custom props, as in a sequence of prop names like prop1, prop2, prop3, etc. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [RevServer tips] Spreading the load or why wise developers use asynchronous workflows
On Aug 4, 2010, at 4:07 PM, Jeff Massung wrote: > This is a typical, safe setup: > > 1. Client web browser clicks a button on a web page. > 2. Web server sends a command to a CGI script (running on the server). > 3. CGI script makes a connection to the database and runs a SQL function. > 4. The SQL function executes a transaction on the database. > > #1 is executed at some random, remote, external machine. > #2 is the only socket action that actually takes place. > #3 is run through the localhost loopback device to gain DB access. > #4 is entirely done within the database server code. > > Something you can usually do as a quick test is to set your database up so > that it only accepts connections from the localhost. Then run through all > your tests. If any of them fail, that's a point where you are trying to > access the database remotely and need to fix it. Thanks, Jeff! This is a really useful outline that I can easily adapt to my work. I assume you'd want to follow this procedure even if you are making the db requests directly from a stack? So send a get or post http request to the CGI script from the stack and then process the returned data in the stack? Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [RevServer tips] Spreading the load or why wise developers use asynchronous workflows
Thanks for the reply, Andre. While I've been doing simple HTML and web stuff for years, I'm still relatively new to the world of server-side apps and server scripting. On Aug 4, 2010, at 3:53 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: > Database communications such as SQL queries and logins should never cross > networks. If the database server is running at a given host, then use a cgi > at the same host as middleware to talk to it. So SQL queries to DB servers, such as you can easily do from Rev stacks are inherently insecure? I've been doing this for years, so why am I even still alive!? ;-) Don't get me wrong; I have no reason to doubt your judgment. I'm just surprised I've never heard this before. (Or maybe never paid attention.) The ability to access online DBs is touted as a major feature of the Rev desktop product, and I make heavy use of it. What is the core issue--that when you send DB queries across network boundaries you're sending clear text? Does that mean if I use encryption or SSL in conjunction with DB calls I'm okay? Sorry to belabor the question. I just want to make sure I understand so I can limit my exposure to risk. I know how to do DB calls from irev scripts on localhost, so I can easily avoid a potential security hole. Thanks, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [RevServer tips] Spreading the load or why wise developers use asynchronous workflows
Jan, Jeff, Andre, So is it okay to have irev scripts that are on the same server as the DB make the requests? Or are you just saying you should only submit DB queries from localhost? (In MySQL terms, the difference between 'localhost' access and '%' access, for example.) Of course, when doing DB access from Rev standalone apps, the only way it can be done is if the DB allows non-local access, through some port. If I understand you correctly, you're saying it is a Bad Idea to have an irev or php script query a DB from another server. Just trying to make sure I understand the context. I'm a desktop guy who is doing more and more with revServer and the web environment, and I'd like to avoid having my server nuked. Regards, Devin On Aug 4, 2010, at 2:26 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: > Jan, > > Will write a piece on this shortly, this is a big no no no! > > my lib RevSpark was created to serve exactly that situation where you need > to be able to create simple CGIs that do not require complex views and > stuff. I created it specifically to serve as an easy way to built RESTful > services for database interaction. > > http://hg.andregarzia.com/revspark > > :D > > On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Jeff Massung wrote: > >> Never, ever, ever do this. ;-) >> >> It's basically asking for someone to hack - and nuke - your database out >> from under you. You never want to connect to it remotely, and you never >> want >> to send SQL commands to it directly. Use an intermediate layer. >> >> For example, have a server process that accepts incoming connections and >> [indirect] commands that will end up modifying the database. But that >> process is capable of doing a lot of security checks: >> >> - Logins + permissions >> - DOS attack checks >> - Ensure validity of actions >> - Much more... >> >> The 3rd one there is probably most important. Instead of having a remote >> app >> send direct SQL commands to a remotely hosted database, you create action >> commands that end up performing the correct SQL under-the-hood. >> >> This has *many* advantages: >> >> - Clients have no direct access to the database (which may hold the data >> for >> many clients) >> - You can change your data schema without a client ever knowing, and no >> application updates are required. >> - The data storage method is hidden from potential hackers. >> - Much more... >> >> Jeff M. >> >> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: >> >>> Hi Jan. >>> >>> Is accessing your database directly from a remote location taboo? I'm >>> developing an app that does exactly that! >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> >>> >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> > > > > -- > http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ON TOPIC : A REV QUESTION! :-)
On Jul 26, 2010, at 12:56 PM, René Micout wrote: > Hi John, > > set the label of btn "Cancel" of stack "ask dialog" to "Annuler" -- > francisation dialogue > > Bon souvenir de Paris > René > > > Le 26 juil. 2010 à 20:17, John Dixon a écrit : > >> >> Hi... >> >> I have put a stack together on a Mac using an 'English' Mac OS... The stack >> will run in France... I have just realized that there are a couple of 'Ask' >> commands littered about the stack that have 'Cancel' and 'OK' in the >> buttons... >> >> Will 'Cancel' be translated into something like 'Effacer' when running under >> a French Mac OS ? John, Profiles work really well for this kind of thing. Just create a new profile for each object that needs a French label, in the object's property inspector, under the Profile section. Name the profile something obvious like "french". Make sure the new profile is selected in the inspector, then change the label property to the French label. Do this for each object that needs a French label. Then use the revSetStackProfile command to switch between the Master (default) profile and the French one for all objects in the stack that have the french profile: revSetStackProfile "french" --switch To switch back use: revSetStackProfile "Master" Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Estimate/Quotation program, help me please.....
On Jul 22, 2010, at 7:17 PM, tm274 wrote: > > I see a one day training course for a kiosk but it appears to be a web based > program and I am looking to learn or get help to build a windows executable > that includes option buttons and combo boxes rather than drag and drop. Any > other thoughts? That would be the workshop we taught at RevLive '08, with contributions by Kevin Miller, myself, Scott Rossi, Jacque Gay, Andre Garzia and the late Bill Marriott. We actually showed a progression of how such a kiosk could be built (a very simple one, of course,) including a fully-desktop-centric version (the first four phases), plus ways to move parts of it to the web (Andre), and how to employ a database to store the merchandise data (Bill.) The contents of the workshop CD can still be downloaded at http://asay.byu.edu/revLive-workshopCD.zip Given your description of what you want to do, there should be some things there that will be helpful to you. Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revServer Configuration
On Jul 20, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Gregory Lypny wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> Despite having an On-Rev account, I'd like to get revServer running on a
> machine at work but I don't understand the configuration instructions I found
> on rev Lessons. Under the Overview section, am I supposed to set
> REVSERVER_HOME to some path? Where is this variable set and where does it
> reside? This is followed by the CGI-When-You-Have-Access-to-Apache section,
> which I presumably do on my Mac, but it doesn't say how to create a handler
> to do the mapping that is required. It also states parenthetically that this
> is not best practice (but not why), although there doesn't appear to be a
> section that describes what would be better practice.
>
> Is there a revServer Configuration for Dummies document out there?
Gregory,
I struggled at first, too. But finally got it to work. Note I am working on OS
X Server, so if you are not, the specifics may vary.
Mike's instructions seem very good; I'll just add my own notes, which I typed
up for myself to remind me the next time I have to do this. Hopefully, between
Mike and me you'll get it working.
DNA Notes - June 17, 2010
My first test was to enable revServer only for a specific site. At first I had
lots of trouble, and I kept messing with the directives for the site to try to
fix them. I finally ended up copying Mark's example directives directly into my
site config file. The real problem turned out to be the directory issue,
described below.
I got this to work after some fiddling. The main problem was I had copied the
whole revserver folder into the cgi-bin folder, which meant there was an extra
directory intervening and breaking the path resolution. Once I moved the
revserver binary and the folders directly into cgi-bin it worked.
June 22, 2010
In order to enable irev scripting for all sites on the server I modified
/etc/apache2/httpd.conf as follows:
AddHandler type-map var
AddHandler irev-script irev ## (added line)
Action irev-script /cgi-bin/revserver/revserver ## (added line)
AddType application/andrew-inset ez
...
# (stuff omitted here for brevity)
For Mac OS X Server: Uncomment this line to enable web-based
configuration of mailman:
##
# Include /etc/apache2/httpd_mailman.conf
# Allow convenient access to Apache manual
AliasMatch
^/manual(?:/(?:de|en|es|fr|ja|ko|pt-br|ru))?(/.*)?$
"/Library/WebServer/share/httpd/manual$1"
Options Indexes
AllowOverride None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
SetHandler type-map
SetEnvIf Request_URI
^/manual/(de|en|es|fr|ja|ko|pt-br|ru)/ prefer-language=$1
RedirectMatch 301
^/manual(?:/(de|en|es|fr|ja|ko|pt-br|ru)){2,}(/.*)?$ /manual/$1$2
LanguagePriority en de es fr ja ko pt-br ru
ForceLanguagePriority Prefer Fallback
DNA: Since I keep my web server root at a different location than
the default one, I had to comment out existing ScriptAlias, and add the two
following
# ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/
ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /Volumes/ServerHD2/WebServer/CGI-Executables/
ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/revserver
/Volumes/ServerHD2/WebServer/CGI-Executables/revserver
# (end quote from httpd.conf)
July 20, 2010
Note: After I ran a system software update from Apple, my revServer stuff
stopped working. I discovered that Apple's update modified httpd.conf,
uncommenting the first ScriptAlias line. Once I reestablished my ScriptAlias
line, and restarted apache, it worked again.
HTH
Regards,
Devin
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Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!
Since this seems to be the day for questions, one more I haven't seen asked: If I spring for Rodeo (and I'm very close to doing it) am I forever tied to dependency on the Rodeo server? What about those of us who have invested in our own on-rev account or in revServer? Can we produce code on the Rodeo server, then copy it to our own revved servers? Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I cannot edit a field although the locktext is set to false
On Jul 19, 2010, at 2:43 PM, Reinhold Venzl-Schubert wrote: > Hi! > > On my card there are 10 textfields, one of them ist locked and stay locked. > The looktext-button in the basic properties is not highlighted. > I send the message "set the locktext of fld "FrageR1" to false" to the field. > It stay locked. > > What can I do? > What can be the reason? Reinhold, Make sure these two properties are also set as follows for the field: traversalOn = true In property inspector: Focusable autoHilite = true In property inspector: autoHilite Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revBrowser + youtube.com = Crashing?
On Jun 24, 2010, at 11:10 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: > Hi List: > > I'm wondering if a few folks with Windows systems wouldn't mind doing a > simple Rev test. Run the browser sample stack that ships with Rev > (C/Program Files/Revolution Enterprise/4.0.0-gm-1/Resources/Examples/Browser > Sampler.rev) launch the demo browser from the button on the first card, and > navigate to www.youtube.com. Over here on 3 separate systems, Rev crashes > when accessing this URL. The Rev folks are apparently unable to reproduce > the problem. Can anyone else? Yep, crashes here on Win XP with SP3. Rev 4.0 and 4.5-dp-3. IE 8 is installed on the system. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Parent group
On Jun 17, 2010, at 7:22 AM, Simon Lord wrote: > In flash there was the notion of asking for the name of _parent to get > the ID or name of the container movieClip. I have a scenario where I > would like to poll a button within a group to tell me which group it's > in. > > The long way would be to get the long name of target, filter it for a > string, get the first name in quotes to the right of it etc etc. > > But I'm hoping there is something quicker. > > Ex: > > on mouseDown > put the short name of parent > end mouseDown Hi Simon, We have a tool to do that; it's just a difference in terminology: put the owner of This will return the name of the group if it's a grouped control, or the name of the card if it's not a grouped control. HTH Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Very OT] Happy and need to share it!
On Jun 15, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Jeff Massung wrote: > http://massj.tumblr.com/ > > Sorry for the spam (sorta), but I just have to share a very happy moment for > me. Yay! Dad rules! (And just in time for Fathers Day.) Thanks for sharing your "parent payday" moment. :-) Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: combo box messages
On Jun 5, 2010, at 5:07 PM, David C. wrote: >> A problem was posted to the forums. SomeOne wanted to type text into a >> field, and have that text dynamically located among the lines of another >> scrolling list field such that closer and closer matches are found as the >> text >> entry gets longer. > > > I put together a very simple stack that "kind of" does what he was looking > for: > http://www.docstoolchest.com/Predictive.rev > > It's a bit "hackish" with the hidden fields and can probably be coded > more elegantly, but filtering the text seems to do pretty well in my > testing with Win 7. Although I haven't done so, you can probably grab > the coordinates for the cursor position and have it pop up along side > each time. I have a stack that does this on revOnline. Look for a stack called "Type with Filter". Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Google Drops Windows
On Jun 4, 2010, at 8:10 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > It's "Aufulich", read "Awful Itch" - he was the Third Deputy Assistant > Undersecretary in the Ministry for Woolen Underwear. :) As a long-time student of Russian and erstwhile Kremlin-watcher, I have just three words: Flat-out brilliant! Thanks for sharing this, Richard. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: never ending scroll?
On May 27, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Nicolas Cueto wrote:
> Tom,
>
> The scroll-wheel I've in mind is in the "Add alarm" section of the
> iPhone's "Clock".
>
> "Lazily loaded"? I guess I'm off to search that.
>
> In the meantime, I'd still welcome example scripts of something that'd
> do an endless scroll of text in a text field, rather than a group, a
> table, a window, etc.
Hi Nicolas,
The relatively new addition to revTalk, 'wrap', might help here. This example
isn't exactly what you're describing, but I think the same principle could be
applied. I just tested this script in a "LittleArrows" style scrollbar, and it
successfully does an endless loop through the numbers 1 through 12, both
backward and forward, when you click the increment or decrement arrows.
Now imagine lines of text stored in a variable that would be shown in the
field, instead of the numbers.
local sCount
on scrollbarLineInc
put 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12 into tnums
add 1 to sCount
put sCount wrap 12 into fld "counter"
end scrollbarLineInc
on scrollbarLineDec
put 12,11,10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1 into tnums
subtract 1 from sCount
if sCount is 0 then put 12 into sCount
put sCount wrap 12 into fld "counter"
end scrollbarLineDec
HTH,
Devin
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Re: How to hide scroll if field does not require it
On May 26, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Sivakatirswami wrote: > Anyone else wish that fields has a property by which you could turn off > the appears of the vertical scroll bar, if the field actually did not > have enough text to require it? > > In the absence of that feature, what is the best way to program this? > > I have a field that is dynamically filled with a listing from folders on > the server on the LAN. Sometimes there may only be 1-2 files i the list, > other times there are many. I would like the field not to have a > vertical scroll bar if there it only has 1-7 lines of text and then if > it fills with 8, suddenly the scroll bar appears. > > I can think of ways to do this, but How are others doing this? This handler is in my standard library stack used by most of my projects: command enableScrollbarIfNeeded pFldName if the formattedHeight of fld pFldName > the height of fld pFldName then set the vScrollbar of fld pFldName to true else set the vScrollbar of fld pFldName to false end if end enableScrollbarIfNeeded It's worked well for me. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revLet: fetching a url
On May 20, 2010, at 2:35 PM, David Bovill wrote: > This really should work - what am I doing wrong? > > on mouseUp >> if the optionkey is "Down" then >> put "Hello World!" into fld 1 >> else >> put url "http://www.google.com"; into fld 1 >> end if >> end mouseUp >> > > I create a simple stack with one button and the above script and one field. > It works fine on the desktop. The application settings for the revLet > include the internet library and the network access in security settings. > But no go??? > > The stack can be found here: > > go to stack url "http://www.revtalk.org/tests/Test/Test.rev"; > > and the revLet here: > > http://www.revtalk.org/tests/Test/test.html David, In the standalone settings Web tab, did you check the Network box? I believe that in order to access urls outside of your own domain the user has to grant permission. HTH Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] 3d flip effect?
On May 17, 2010, at 10:43 PM, Nicolas Cueto wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Anyone know how to or what software can create a 3D flip effect of an image?
>
> For example, a coin showing heads flips to show tails, or a navigation
> tile showing a left-arrow flips to show a right-arrow? And all with a
> 3D illusion!
Nicolas,
Have you checked QuickTime effects? ('answer effects' in the message box will
bring up a dialog where you can see them.) Failing that, if you are on Mac OS X
there may be a Core Image effect that will do it.
Devin
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box
On May 16, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Jim Bufalini wrote: > > Here is a small Rev plugin that finds orphaned puts in any open stack you so > designate. It was written by Eric Chatonet. Offered "as is." It will also > find other lines of code. Please put it in your plugins folder and launch it > from there. > > www.jimbofhawaii.com/downloads/Smart Search.rev The link seems to be broken, Jim, although I was able to get it by just listing the downloads folder contents. Thanks for offering this. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Recording Audio on Windows...?
On May 13, 2010, at 2:28 PM, John Patten wrote: > Hi All... > > I'm attempting to move a small stack, which records audio from a OS X > computer over to a Windows XP computer. > > The OS X stack works fine. When I run it on the Windows XP machine I'm > getting an error. > > I have installed QT on the Windows XP machine and I appear to have all > my paths correct. > > i.e. C:\Documents and Settings\the_domain.theUser\Desktop\recordings > \nameofRecording > > However, when I check the result after giving the record sound file > command it reports: > > "error -220 starting recording" > > Does anyone have an idea of what I'm missing? Not sure what the error means. But audio recordings are generally pretty reliable on XP. I've got a demo stack that I know works on Win XP and Mac OS X. Maybe you could compare it to your own code and see if there are differences. If it doesn't work, there might be a problem with your configuration. Enter in message box: go stack URL "http://asay.byu.edu/AudioJukebox.rev"; HTH Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Fwd: OT: Resources for Data Base Design
Sivakatirswami, I sent your message on to a colleague who is an expert in text markup schemes and this was his reply. It may imply a slightly different direction from what you have started with. HTH Devin Begin forwarded message: > From: Jarom McDonald > Date: May 11, 2010 8:42:40 AM MDT > To: Devin Asay > Subject: Re: OT: Resources for Data Base Design > > Hi Devin, > > At least in the world of academia, what he's looking for just isn't done. > Whether for philosophical reasons, common practice reasons, or whatever, > there is very little work done in decomposing texts for relational models. > Rather, texts are kept whole and marked up in XML, which to most people > preserves the complexity of the text and facilitates publishing and > dissemination. > > This isn't to say that relational models can't be useful; I have seen > products where texts are marked up in the TEI schema (the standard for XML > encoding of text) and then elements are chopped up and put into a DB; > however, you can achieve similar levels of performance with an XML database. > The most used is called eXist; there are plenty of scripts you can find by > googling TEI + eXist that can help in storing XML docs in the XML database, > querying with xQuery and XPath to find documents, creating indices, etc. > > Of course, this probably doesn't help much, as Revolution has native support > for RDBMs but not for XML databases. But for full texts, the relational route > just isn't used in academia on any sort of wide scale. > > Jarom > > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Devin Asay wrote: > Jarom, > > This came over the Revolution mail list. Any recommendations I could point > him to? The last long paragraph details what he's looking for. > > Devin > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Sivakatirswami >> Date: May 8, 2010 7:53:08 PM MDT >> To: How to use Revolution >> Subject: OT: Resources for Data Base Design >> Reply-To: How to use Revolution >> >> I'm working on a content management database based on the Dublin Core >> and the Media Annotation Initiative. Much of the whole mode of discourse >> and terms translate well into a database scheme but when the discourse >> starts to talking about fine tuning and switches to an RDF framework it >> is difficult to grok in terms of translating some of the principles into >> actual table-field structures in a PostGreSQL dbase. the Dubline Core >> seems in some respects a very abstract realm... but things are different >> where rubber hits the road. >> >> I've looked pretty closely at the databases generated by XOOPS, Drupal >> and Word Press and frankly, they are freaky scary. I see a hodge podge >> of strategies, each differing -- depends on whose design the module >> whose tables you are looking at. That's why I want to stay with Dublin >> Core where the "human readability" principle is kept in the forefront of >> design. I'm pretty close to designing a schema that I think can contain >> pretty much all the metadata for any video, text or audio, translations >> pamphlets etc. FAQ that we have. I supposed we are re-inventing the >> wheel a bit, but in the end we will get something that is a good match >> for our needs and we will not be boxed into framework of a monster CMS >> that we cannot customize without spending huge $ on PHP-module >> consultants... (been there, done that, nightmare) >> >> Metadata for a video or a sound file or an image is simple enough >> >> The part of the data base I'm unable to finish of is that which deals >> with text fragments. I think I posted this before on this list but got >> no responses. If anyone knows what would be the best list or group I >> should go to, to get help, let me know. What I'm interested in should be >> pretty standard stuff in the world of academia: e.g. if you want a data >> base to contain the most atomic elements of a text resource (one record >> for every single verse of every single poem from a book where the poems >> are divided into chapters and the chapters into sections and the >> sections into parts of a book, and the book is one volume in a >> series...) what is the best schema which allows you to query the data >> base to re-aggregate all those elements into it's original source >> document, run time (or on a cron or periodically post modifications) >> AND OR what other approaches might better serve the end game (be able >> to query for a single verse with complete citation; be able to qu
Re: Object is not an image when Crop command
On May 10, 2010, at 11:36 AM, JosepM wrote: > > OK. Now is imported into imagedata, but now say that is not a rectangle... :( > buf... > > It's posible to export or copy a portion of the image but with a irregular > shape? > > Maybe I trying something not posible... Crop only works with a rectangle. There may be others on the list who have figured out how to use an irregular shape as an image mask. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Object is not an image when Crop command
On May 10, 2010, at 10:57 AM, JosepM wrote: > > Hi Devin, > > Yes, I read the dictionary, but the image is loaded from disk not > referenced. What is a image not referenced? The image would have to be imported, I believe, to be able to use the crop command with it. Devin > > El 10/05/2010, a las 18:51, "Devin Asay [via Runtime Revolution]" > > escribió: > >> >> On May 10, 2010, at 10:22 AM, JosepM wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi List, >>> >>> I try to crop a image with the rect of a graphic. >>> >>> tObject is a graphic selected by the user. >>> img "picture" is a image loaded by the user from disk >>> >>> The user move the graphic over the image and crop it, but only I >> get "Error: >>> object is not an image"?? >>> The graphic is irregular polygon, I mean that is not a rectangle >> or a box.. >>> >>> The code: >>> >>> put the rect of the selectedobject into tObject >>> crop img "picture" to rect tObject >>> >>> Any idea? :) >> >> Josep, >> >> Are your images referenced to outside image data? The Rev Dictionary >> says this: The crop command cannot be used on a referenced image. >> Doing so will cause an execution error. >> >> Regards, >> Devin >> >> Devin Asay >> Humanities Technology and Research Support Center >> Brigham Young University >> >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> [hidden email] >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> >> >> View message @ >> http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Object-is-not-an-image-when-Crop-command-tp2171784p2172400.html >> To unsubscribe from Object is not an image when Crop command, click >> here. >> > > -- > View this message in context: > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Object-is-not-an-image-when-Crop-command-tp2171784p2172408.html > Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Object is not an image when Crop command
On May 10, 2010, at 10:22 AM, JosepM wrote: > > Hi List, > > I try to crop a image with the rect of a graphic. > > tObject is a graphic selected by the user. > img "picture" is a image loaded by the user from disk > > The user move the graphic over the image and crop it, but only I get "Error: > object is not an image"?? > The graphic is irregular polygon, I mean that is not a rectangle or a box.. > > The code: > > put the rect of the selectedobject into tObject > crop img "picture" to rect tObject > > Any idea? :) Josep, Are your images referenced to outside image data? The Rev Dictionary says this: The crop command cannot be used on a referenced image. Doing so will cause an execution error. Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Newbie question
On May 4, 2010, at 8:30 AM, Steve Jones wrote: > Fairly new to RR here, but have used HyperCard and then SuperCard at the > amateur level for a while. > > I see in RR that you put items in GROUPS to have them appear on every card in > a stack as opposed to SC where you put them in the BACKGROUND. I have a > GROUP of items on a single card in a stack. When the CREATE CARD command is > issued in a handler, a new card is created but the GROUP is not on it. What > might I be doing wrong? Others have answered your basic question, but I can add that the concept of groups in Rev is simultaneously one of the more useful things in Rev, while at the same time one of the hardest cognitive shifts for people moving to Rev from HyperCard or SuperCard. I think that's because in Rev, groups are far more than just a replacement for backgrounds. When I introduce groups in my Rev class I tell my students that there are two main reasons for using groups: 1. To associate several controls into a single group for ease of formatting or rearranging your layout; or because the controls need to interact in some way. For example, if you want to have a set of radio-style buttons, which let the user make “mutually-exclusive” choices, you need to group them. When you do that, Rev will automatically un-highlight previously highlighted buttons in the group. 2. To place the same controls on multiple cards. Often, for example, you may want to have buttons on every card of your stack that allow you to go to the next and previous cards in the stack. In cases like these, it is best to create the Previous/Next buttons on a card, group them, then place the group on all of the cards in the stack. The main advantage of this approach are obvious: if you have buttons that do the same thing on each card, and you use a group, the buttons stay in the same location on each card, have the same appearance on each card, and if you have to make a change to a button, you only have to do it once, instead of once for every card in the stack. Groups can appear only on one card, or can be placed on as many cards as you want, by using "Place Group" from the Object menu. Once you manually place a group on more than one card, Revolution automatically considers it a background, and its backgroundBehavior property is automatically set to true. If you are not aware of this quirk, it can cause unexpected consequences. If you want to read more, see http://revolution.byu.edu/groups/Groups.php When I first switched to Rev from HC, I was completely confused by groups. Once I got my head around the concept and figured out how they worked, I was sold and would never go back to just card layer vs. background layer. Anyway, welcome to the revolution. Hope this is useful. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Changing the Style of Words in Field And Quotation Marks?
On May 3, 2010, at 1:22 PM, John Patten wrote: > Hi All... > > I'm working on a little student utility that changes the text color > and underlines the individual word in the target field as they hit the > space bar. I'm wondering how I should handle passages of text that are > surrounded by quotation marks? > > I was taking the text passage and stripping out the quotes to get the > total number of words in the field. Then using that number and > reducing it to target the specific words in the field to modify their > text style. > > The quotation marks create a single word out of the phrase, and if I > attempt to delete a quote and then add it back the total number of > words in my variable is off. In any case, everything gets all wonky > when there are quotes in the passage... John, You might try simply replacing the quotes with "curled" quotes, which Rev doesn't see as real quote marks. You'd have to account for cross-platform differences, however. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unicode and Windows Vista (repost)
On May 3, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: > On 03/05/2010 19:51, Devin Asay wrote: >> Do you know if any other of your Devawriter users are on SnoLeo, Vista or >> Win 7. If so, are they seeing the same issues? >> > I do know that various versions of Devawriter have been downloaded at > least 7000 times; how many of those > are repeats I have no way of knowing; but considering at one time I was > popping out upgrades every 2 days > probably quite a few. I am absolutely sure the vast majority of those > downloads were by people who were > curious to see a 'funny' Indian writing system rather than having an > interest in Sanskrit as such (let's face > it, it is not everybody's cup of tea). > > Feedback has been thin; a few nice notes from Profs of Sanskrit who, > while being experts at Sanskrit are > probably not well-versed in computers. > > The chap using Vista is the first corresponding critic I have had, and > he has proven most informative and > helpful (especially as he is encoding a fairly large collection of his > grandfather's Sanskrit poems, so knows > what he is doing with the language as well as feeling reasonably > comfortable with a PC). > > Initially there was some odd feedback on versiontracker: > they are both from Snow Leopard users; whether they got as far as the > Vista chap I don't know: I offered > off-line correspondence to these 2 and have had nothing back. Interesting. I only recently switched to Snow Leopard. Out of curiosity I just downloaded Devawriter. (Beautifully done, by the way.) Unfortunately my knowledge of Sanskrit is nil, so I don't really know what I'm doing. However, I can report that Devawriter launched without a hitch. And I had no problem at all with the font; the Devanagari characters appear just as they are on the virtual keyboard. In addition, the vowel markings on the Vowels keyboard seem to insert themselves properly above or beneath the previous character. If you know exactly what problem your Vista user was, I'd like to try to duplicate it in SnoLeo. At the very least it might be possible to isolate it to Vista. Incidentally, what method are you using to "type" the unicode characters into the composition field? In my (much more static and rudimentary) Russian vocab tutor app, I resorted to using html unicode entities to "switch" accented characters off and on. Essentially I stored the original Cyrillic word lists as UTF8, with discrete acute accent chars as "place markers" for accented syllables. Something like this (hope the unicode comes through in email:) аспи´рант Then I would convert them to Unicode UTF 16 and store them in a field and grab the htmlText. After that I would do a straight replace of a ´ or a ´ with a ́, a unicode char that's supposed to overtype the preceding character. My code to switch accents on and off looks like this: put the HTMLText of fld pFldName into htmlholder replace "Lucida Grande" with "Geneva CY" in htmlholder if the hilite of btn "showstress" of cd "main" then replace "´" with "́" in htmlholder ## Could be conditionally deleted if want to turn accents off replace "´" with "́" in htmlholder else replace "´" with "" in htmlholder ## Could be conditionally deleted if want to turn accents off replace "´" with "" in htmlholder replace "́" with "" in htmlholder end if Clunky-looking, I know. But until Snow Leopard it has worked perfectly, overtyping the preceding Cyrillic char with the acute accent. In SnoLeo it instead places the accent over the following char. When I saw your post I wondered if both your and my issues have the same root cause. Anyway, hope this might jog something in your brain or mine that could lead to a fix. Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unicode and Windows Vista (repost)
On May 3, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: >> > Thank you very much. The problem was spotted with Vista; I have had no > feedback from a Win 7 user. Sorry. My mistake. Of course I knew you said Vista, but we're on the brink of a pending changeover to Win 7 in our Windows labs and I'm afraid I have 7 on the brain. :-p But that doesn't change the issue, does it? There may have been some change in the way both the Mac and Windows OS handle Unicode, which has rippled back into Rev's engine. Do you know if any other of your Devawriter users are on SnoLeo, Vista or Win 7. If so, are they seeing the same issues? Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unicode and Windows Vista (repost)
On May 3, 2010, at 5:51 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: > I am reposting this as it seems to have got lost > amongst the recent cruft. It actually concerns > an aspect of RunRev programming! You should know better; this is the "Rant and Rave About All Things Peripherally Related to Rev" list. What you want is the "How to Use Revolution" list. ;-/ > > > > - > Yesterday I wrote: > - > > Recently I had a slightly worrying post from a chap > attempting to use my Devawriter on a computer > running Windows Vista. > > The problem is that when Devawriter calls a Unicode > character that is not meant to move the cursor/insert place > forward, merely print something either above or beneath > the preceding character it does not; while printing the > character it also moves the insert forward so that > everything comes out incorrectly. > > I tried to duplicate this problem on Mac and Windows XP > (not having access to Vista) and was unable to. Luckily > this chap managed to get hold of a machine running XP > and has had no further problems. > > I would be extremely grateful if anybody has any ideas > and/or advice regarding this problem, as it is a real > problem. Obviously Vista does not "play ball" with > Unicode fonts in RunRev in quite the same way that > Mac and XP do. Odd that you just ran into this with Win 7. Because I just noticed exactly the same problem in Snow Leopard. I have a stack that lists Russian vocabulary words, which has an option of showing the stressed syllables using one of these "overstrike" Unicode characters. Specifically, I use an acute accent from the unicode 03 section (Diacriticals, Greek, Coptic), character 0x301, or decimal 769. It has the effect of placing the accent over the previous character. But suddenly, in Snow Leopard, what has worked perfectly in Leopard and earlier and Win XP now places the accent over the *following* character, which sounds just like what your Win 7 user is experiencing. So far this is just another data point that may help you figure out what's going on. I haven't come up with a solution yet. I do have a hunch, though. I wonder if both SnoLeo and Win 7 have "fixed" something in their unicode engines which slightly breaks Rev's unicode implementation. I'll let you know if I figure anything out. Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Is rev Oracle support just a joke?
On May 1, 2010, at 3:45 AM, Sakari Ruoho wrote: > I still see that the RunRev website advertises that it works with > Oracle. Last time I checked this was far from the thruth. Is this still > the case? What version of Rev do you have? Integrated support for Oracle database connectivity is only available in Rev Enterprise. See: http://www.runrev.com/products/the-rev-platform/editions-comparison/ Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Math Help?
Hi Scott, On Apr 30, 2010, at 1:05 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: > Hello List: > > Was wondering if those with more comprehensive math skills than I know how > to determine if one point X,Y falls within a triangular region defined by 3 > points X1,Y1, X2,Y2, X3,Y3. Thanks for any suggestions. I don't know from math, but I do know you can use the within() function, as opposed to the 'is within' operator, to test for "within-ness" of non-rectangular objects. For instance, if you have an opaque, 3-sided polygon graphic, within() will only be true if the point you're testing is inside the filled part of the triangle. I'm sure some real math expert would have a "real math" solution. HTH, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card cut off at bottom because of menu
On Apr 30, 2010, at 11:50 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > There is one other approach that Chipp suggested a long time ago. I've > never used it. Instead of the above, just determine the platform on > preOpenStack and hide/show the menu group depending on platform. If it's > Mac, you can assign the menubar property to the hidden group so that on > Macs it is placed in the system menu position. I don't like this > approach as well, because it leaves a blank area at the top of the stack > where the menus would be on Windows, but it's another option. This is what I do, but the blank area at the top of the card doesn't bother me. At least not as much as the stack size changing when I set the menubar prop. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] GameOver Mr. Jobs
On Apr 29, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: > On 29/04/2010 20:20, Bob Sneidar wrote: >> Yes, that was what they called it. I believe that if real Turquoise could >> speak, it would express vehement dismay for the association with the actual >> color Apple used. :-) >> > > More a virulent, vaguely polluted, tropical lagoon sort of colour. The official name of the color was "Bondi Blue", supposedly named for the color of the water at this beach in Oz: http://www.hempelfamily.com/bondi_to_bronti.htm And you could even see the computer's innards under the "water"! Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Video Grabber Audio question
On Apr 28, 2010, at 12:06 PM, stephen barncard wrote: > I posted this on the wrong list a couple of days ago. > --- > > I've gotten the Video grabber to do mostly what I want > > - except decide how to control the audio - it always seems to just follow > the video input > > Problems > 1. The audio mutes in record > 2. the audio level is low in preview > 3. Ins and Outs don't switch with default settings > > is there a missing audio panel for the grabber? > Should I be using Trevor's Quicktime External for all of this and forget the > grabber? > > or "you can't get there from here" ?? > > This thing is pretty cool; it 'almost works'. I'm using it to capture every > video I've shot since 1971 at full DV resolution (on one hard drive!). I > especially like the ability to set the "Progressive" setting to > de-interlace, which is not always available in other apps. Stephen, I've never found a way to control the audio format & compression while using the video grabber. One thing I'm going to try this summer is using a shell call the unix utilituy ffmpeg to post-compress video and audio after the initial capture. I'll let the list know if I succeed in getting it to work. Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New to the Revolution
On Apr 24, 2010, at 4:59 PM, Mark Maslowski wrote: > Howdy all! > > I am a long-time Director and Flash developer thinking of jumping into the > Revolution for an upcoming desktop application. Any suggestions of resource > material to help lessen the learning curve? Books? Tutorials? MM: Welcome to the Revolution! In addition to the excellent resources others have suggested, may I humbly suggest my web site at http://revolution.byu.edu. It is made up of an extensive collection of Rev tutorials and notes that I created for Rev programming courses that I teach here at BYU. Much of it may be a little elementary, since it's intended for beginning programmers, but there are lots of examples sprinkled throughout that you may find helpful. Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bad jokes [was: Re: [OT] GameOver Mr. Jobs]
On Apr 23, 2010, at 2:20 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > :) Reminds me of an old soviet joke from some years ago: > > "Capitalism is the exploitation of one man by another. Communism is > exactly the opposite." > > Which, in turn, reminds me of yet another soviet joke: > > "In the Soviet Union we have freedom of speech, freedom of press, and > freedom of association. In America, they have freedom *after* speech, > freedom after press, and freedom after association." Ahhh! Old Soviet Union jokes! Question: How can you tell communism is not based on science? Answer: If it were based on science they would have tried it out on dogs first. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: specialFolderPath
On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:12 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > Klaus on-rev wrote: > >> Rev uses always the SLASH / as a path delimiter internaylly on ALL platforms! >> You only need to use the backslash if you use a pathname inside of a SHELL >> command on windows. > > Which brings up an interface question. My app lets users choose a folder > and then displays the folder path in a field. I've never bothered to > change it in the past, but now I'm wondering if I should translate all > the slashes to backslashes just for display on Windows, and then change > them back to regular slashes in the script when I need to work with the > path. > > What do others do? Don't ask me, my guideline on most things is WWJD? (What Would Jacque Do?). Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [slightly OT] Off for a couple of days
Congratulations, Malte! Hope wife and baby son are doing well. Regards, Devin On Apr 14, 2010, at 9:38 AM, Malte Pfaff-Brill wrote: > And just after I wrote the mail, my wife went into labour. I must have > felt it in the office. Anyhow... Thanks for the kind words everyone! > > And please welcome the next revolutionary, Hannes Leander Pfaff. :-) Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: specialFolderPath
Charles,
On Apr 13, 2010, at 3:02 PM, charles61 wrote:
>
> I just started using specialFolderPath to save documents made with my app. I
> tried the following for the Mac:
>
> ask file "My file as: " with specialFolderPath("docs")
>
> which opens up the file dialog box showing Save My File as: Documents
>
> instead of opening the Documents folder with Save My File as:
>
> What am I missing here?
The trouble is that ask file will assume that the last part of the file path is
supposed to be the name of the new file. Try this instead:
ask file "My file as: " with specialFolderPath("documents") & "/untitled.txt"
Devin
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Re: Implementing the Mac "Quick Look" type of window
On Apr 12, 2010, at 1:43 AM, René Micout wrote: > Le 9 avr. 2010 à 19:15, Devin Asay a écrit : > >> put "qlmanage -p " & theFile into tcmd -- shows it in a black window > > Devin, > When I launch the script above, I have "[DEBUG]" in the title bar. > How can I remove it ? > And where can I find all details about "qlmanage" fonction (even in Apple > documentation I don't find explanations about parameters...) ? Other more knowledgeable folks have already commented on this in this thread. I'm sorry, I don't know the answer. I only just noticed it myself, having recently upgraded to 10.6. Everything I know I learned from Jim Sims and Bernd, and from reading through the man page. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Implementing the Mac "Quick Look" type of window
On Apr 9, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: > Not sure the correct term for this but I'm looking for a way to to > implement windows that look like the "Quick Look" windows on a Mac. > They "explode" out from the document icon popup menu that you select > the Quick Look function from. They have a semi-transparent border > around the document they display and a close button at the top left > and a vertical scroll bar. > > I thought maybe the opaque property of a card might be a starting > point but it doesn't seem to affect the appearance of the card at > all. Also tried playing around with the various options of the > Blending Properties but they seem to affect the appearance of objects > on the card rather than the card itself. > > Thanks for any pointers as to how to do this, Actually, Pete, if you are on a Mac, 10.5 or higher, you can can access the QuickLook capability directly. I wrote this script after a discussion on this list a few months back. Thanks to Bernd Niggeman and Jim Sims for the ideas: on mouseUp answer file "please choose ..." if it is empty then exit mouseUp put it into theFile put apostrophe (theFile) into theFile --put "qlmanage -t " & "-s 900 " & theFile into tcmd -- apparently sets it to max orig size, white window -- put "qlmanage -t " & "-f 5 " & theFile into tcmd apparently sets it to max orig size, white window put "qlmanage -p " & theFile into tcmd -- shows it in a black window get shell (tCmd) if the result is not empty then put the result end mouseUp function apostrophe what return "'" & what & "'" end apostrophe Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Wierd stack behaviour- location is off the planet!
On Apr 5, 2010, at 6:02 AM, planix wrote: Hiya, RunRev 4 Build 950 on a Windows XP. I wonder if anyone has seen the following. I have a stack which fronts a series of sub-stacks. It doesn't have any scripts apart from a menu choice so the user can go from this stack to the other sub-stacks where data is stored and managed. The problem I have is that suddenly, and for no discernible reason, the front stack disappeared. It seemed to be available and visible was set to true. So, I had a look in size & position properties. There I found that the location of this stack was set at -32165, -31850. Bizarre. I don't have any coding anywhere in my stacks that resets window location or anything. "Ho, hum", thunk I "I'll just reset the location manually and viola, problem solved!" Hah! No such luck. I can't change the location. Doesn't matter what I type in it sets back to the location described above. Without even a mild attempt to come back to me. I have no idea how I made this happen. And I have no idea of how to make it come back. Any thoughts on this? Seems like a bug to me. So, I will report it unless I am just doing something blindingly stupid. Did you try 'set the lockmessages to true' before changing the loc? Don't forget to set it to false when everything's fixed, though. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cross-Platform encoding issues
On Mar 31, 2010, at 6:30 AM, Jacopo Lupi wrote: Hi all, I'm building a cross-platform application based on an postgresql database. The postgresql database encoding is "utf8". The revclient sets the "client_encoding" of the postgres session to "latin9" and if it is running on mac it translates the data with "mactoiso" or "isotomac" functions. I need to set the postgres "client_encoding" to "latin9" otherwise I can't retrive text with accents correctly on the macplatform. Everything seems to work fine exept for the euro symbol. I can find no way to type the euro symbol in mac and make it readable under windows and viceversa. Yes, the html entity for the Euro symbol is problematic and inconsistent between mac and windows. But this works on both Mac and Windows (beware word wrap): set the unicodeText of fld "test" to uniencode((numToChar(226) & numToChar(130) & numToChar(172)),"utf8") Does anybody know a correct implementation to make the euro symbol working in the correct way storing data on a sql database? So as long as you store the characters sequence corresponding to ascii 226, 130, and 172 in your database you should be able to render them successfully. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Connecting Rev stack to On-Rev mySQL DB?
On Mar 26, 2010, at 11:58 AM, John Patten wrote:
Thanks Sarah and Andre!
I figured out the % wildcard for SQL but I like Sarah's irev strategy
too. I'm attempting to modify what Sarah describes to include a
search field on card and a WHERE in the SQL. Having a hard time
getting my head around sending the POST to the irev script so that I
can search by field in SQL and then returning the data to the stack.
Here's where I'm at:
--On the card-
on mouseUp
put cd fld "SearchName" into tTeacher
libUrlFormData("name", tTeacher)
post it to url "http://jpatten.on-rev.com/readDB.irev";
put "http://jpatten.on-rev.com/readDB.irev"; into tData
put tData into fld "tempdata"
...
--in the irev file
put $_POST["name"] into tTeacher
( and then everything that Sarah describes below)
My confusion comes from trying to submit two actions to the irev file,
a POST of the card field text and the Open&Query of the database. What
is the proper way to get the text (POST) included as a WHERE in the
irev SQL action?
John,
A few weeks back I taught a block in my Rev class on creating irev
scripts that respond to form requests in the context of creating
custom database queries. I've just posted my class notes, which
include an example of how this could be done. You may find them
useful. (Or maybe you'll just find them way too basic. :) ) But it may
give you some ideas.
Go to http://revolution.byu.edu/indexgeneric.php. Scroll down to the
section on Internet and Networking and see the links under Web
Services and Server-side Scripting.
Hope it is helpful.
Devin
Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University
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Re: Connecting Rev stack to On-Rev mySQL DB?
On Mar 25, 2010, at 2:56 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: John, check the allowed hosts on your control panel, add the % wildcard there. Cheers andre PS: Power grid failure over here, working on batts, sorry for the hushed reply This is in fact what I have done on my MySQL account to make db's accessible from outside my on-rev domain. Beyond that, the advice from Sarah, Andre, Kay, and Jim is valuable with regard to security issues. BTW, it's not obvious from the on-rev CPanel where to make the change to the allowed hosts. Under Databases click Remote MySQL. There you can add specific allowed IP addresses, DNS names, or the '%' wildcard. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Inserting a photo into a polygon?
On Mar 15, 2010, at 4:08 PM, Randall Lee Reetz wrote: Can I insert a photo or image into a polygon? How? Hi Randall, The only way I know of is to import an image into the stack, hide it, then set the backgroundPattern of the graphic object to the id of the image. (Make sure the graphic's opaque property is true). Small images are tiled, but a larger image will fill up the entire interior space of the graphic as long as the graphic is smaller than the image. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Saving files to database
On Mar 15, 2010 Andrew Kluthe wrote: I have a need to store image files and document files (reports) to my mySQL database. I know it is arguably unconventional to do this, but the need and requirement is there. Does anyone have any experience doing this within rev? I have seen alot of tutorials documenting this in PHP. Worst case: I use a php script to handle this process. But, I would like to do this straight from my rev program. Bob and Slug, I've been doing this for years, but I have never used base 64 encoding and decoding. I've moved multiple gigabytes of binary data back and forth between local machine and mySql server without any trouble at all. So my question is, why use base 64 encoding if it doesn't make any difference? Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stacks and Standalones
On Mar 9, 2010, at 10:00 AM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: I am trying to package up a little preview of my app so far for my boss and am running into a few large snags. Saving as a stand alone (with all the guides I have been following) mangles the program and it crashes. Stack runner 2.0 runs the program mostly fine but it cannot find substacks to my Main.rev. Are you by chance setting the defaultFolder anywhere in any or your stacks? The default setting of that property that will change depending upon whether you're in the IDE or standalone or launching from a stack runner. Another possibility for the standalone: did you check the "Move substacks to individual stackfiles" box in the Stacks pane of the standalone builder? These are off the top of my head, and maybe grasping at straws, but I'm trying to think of things that might be different depending on the environment you're running in. Normally a standalone runs flawlessly if the stack in the IDE is working in the IDE. Devin Main.rev has several substacks "TopMenu" being one of them, but stack runner produces this revError Executing at 10:36:21 AM on Tuesday, March 9, 2010 Type: Chunk: can't find stack Object: card id 1002 of stack "TopMenu" of stack "C:/Rev/FOM2/ main.rev" Line: put (the height of stack sMainStack + 30) + (the height of stack "TopMenu" + 30) + (the height of stack "Help" + 30) into sReportHeight Line Num: 4 Hint: buddy I am a little confused on how to refer to stacks/files/etc within rev. My program works fine within the IDE but is nearly totally broken no matter what stand alone solution I use. The layout of my app is as follows: Main.Rev has substacks --> "Calendar", "Help", "libSQLYoga", "Reports", "Resources", "SideMenu", "TopMenu" LeaseStack.rev has substacks --> "Edit Fields", "Edit Lease", "Edit Payments" Setup.rev has substacks --> "People Setup" How would I refer to "TopMenu"? Currently it is 'stack "TopMenu"'. How would I refer to "Edit Fields" of LeaseStack.rev from withing main.rev? currently its stack "LeaseStack" Surely my stand alone problems have to do with my code because they are so universal to all the solutions I have tried. Any help or direction you could provide would be fantastic. If I need to clarify at all, please let me know. Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: parsing data returned from "the foundLine"
On Mar 3, 2010, at 6:43 AM, David Coker wrote: Try: get the value of the foundline That is definitely a step much closer. :) I usually keep the dictionary open as a reference while I'm working, but it certainly didn't help in this case. ...I think I'm gonna revisit *all* of the documentation covering "chunking" again before I go much further with this little project. It seems that I am still missing some of the concepts, methods and/or possibilities that Rev offers when it comes to parsing textual data. David, I have an overview of Rev's chunking, text parsing and find tokens at http://revolution.byu.edu/textfind/TextandFind.php . You may find it useful. Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Any recommendations for some Mac OS x Apps?
Matthais, Here's what I use; others will surely have other suggestions. On Feb 26, 2010, at 9:47 AM, runrev260...@m-r-d.de wrote: Dear All, I am looking for some good alternatives for my existing windows apps, when switching/extending to MacOSx. Under Windows I use Texteditor : Ultraedit Free TextEdit that comes with OS X Free TextWrangler from barebones software (the "lite" version of BBedit.) BBedit if you want to buy something high-end. IconEditor : IconWorkshop Free Icon Composer that comes with Apple's free developer tool, XCode. FTP Client : WsFTP Fetch - free to education users, but I don't know how much commercially. MySQL Frontend: HeidiSQL I use PHPMyAdmin, a free browser-based interface. TextureTool : Texturemaker No idea. I am also looking for a free Graphic program and a 3D animation program. I don't use it, but probably Gimp? So are there any free or at least cheap MacOSx alternatives. I'll bet Richmond will chime in. He is the champ of finding free apps. :-) Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [semi-OT]simulating onSubmit in post
Thanks, Graham, Martin and Jim for your thoughtful and most helpful replies. Let me respond to a few of your points. On Feb 24, 2010, at 2:26 AM, Graham Samuel wrote: I for one don't think this is OT at all: I have struggled to understand how to extract stuff from web sites in a more complicated way than the simple examples given in the Rev documentation. I got a lot of help from this list (especially from SparkOut >) but I still remain profoundly ignorant. For instance, I wanted to know in a similar situation if I could effectively by-pass the JS function while capturing the web-based data and then replicate its functionality within my Rev program. IMHO anything that sheds light on the kind of topic would help strengthen the use of Rev in the area of interacting with web services, so must be of interest to many Revvers. Since I am teaching my students about this topic this year, I am trying to distill what I am learning on my revolution.byu.edu web site. I have posted the following inter-linked pages that deal with GET and POST and Rev: http://revolution.byu.edu/internet/webServices.php http://revolution.byu.edu/internet/webServicesTerms.php http://revolution.byu.edu/internet/getMethodSteps.php http://revolution.byu.edu/internet/postMethodSteps.php http://revolution.byu.edu/internet/aboutForms.php I hope that others may find them informative (and that others won't be shy about pointing out errors if they find them.) On Feb 24, 2010, at 2:39 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: In the url instanced below, unless I'm misunderstanding what you are trying to do, if you make a properly formed POST direct to someurl.htm?loadpage, direct from a script or a stack for instance, the onSubmit event in the html form is almost certainly irrelevant, because it is only triggered in the browser when the user clicks the submit element, and wouldn't apply in other cases. Have you experienced some issue that makes you think it is relevant? < Comments about JS client-side vs. server-side validation clipped.> Thanks, Martin. That is what I suspected, but being a JS novice, it was helpful to have it confirmed. I had thought I had carefully parsed the form tag on the page in question and replicated the required arguments in my stack. However I still couldn't get the server to respond with the desired information. As it turns out then, the validation function was a red herring, and I discovered the problem after reading Jim Ault's enlightening reply. He gave a very helpful summary of various types of validation using server-side forms, client- side JavaScript, and AJAX server-side "live-typing" validation. But this bit of advice is what helped me find my error: On Feb 24, 2010, at 3:58 AM, Jim Ault wrote: server-side FORM The way I use is to go into FireFox, activate the add-on using menu Tools:Live HTTP Headers, fill in the form, then capture the headers that are send by the browser. The headers will include the GET and POST data (of course). Now you can use Rev to manipulate the Headers (see the Rev dictionary) before submitting a form. Once I installed Live HTTP Headers in Firefox, I could clearly see that I had failed to find some of the required arguments when I first looked through the form tag in the page source. I went back to the page source, and sure enough, found some hidden inputs that the page author had included after the submit input, but before the closing "form>" element. Nearly all of the other forms I've looked at have the submit input as the very last element in the form. So what tripped me up was a (to me at least) oddly-written form element in the page source. Thanks, Jim, for the tip on a very helpful tool. And thanks again everyone for your help. Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[semi-OT]simulating onSubmit in post
Hi folks, I'm trying to teach myself how to GET and POST submissions to URLs that provide simple web services, like word lookups and the like. I understand the basic concept pretty well and can successfully "harvest" data from various web forms. But I notice that often POST method forms use JavaScript calls to validate data in the forms before submitting it to the server. It might look like this: onSubmit="return Validate(this);"> In this case the Validate function is defined in the header and basically returns true if the submit came from the form "formname" AND all of the fields are filled in. It returns false if either of these conditions is not met. My question: Is it possible to construct a post command and/or header combination that simulates this onSubmit event returning true? This is basically an academic exercise to help me understand how JS and forms work, and how Rev's GET and POST functionality works; I'm not planning to distribute stacks that do this in any way. Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Button Icon Placement
On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:23 AM, Devin Asay wrote: On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:03 AM, Dan Friedman wrote: Hello... Is there a way to have an icon on a button and have the label centered, but not under the button? I know if you set the textStyle to left or right, then the icon is centered. But, if you set the textStyle to centered, then the text lies below the icon. My goal is to use a custom button graphic (up and down states) and the button name (label) would display normally, over the icon. Any insight would be appreciated. Dan, Check out this thread from the list from one year ago: http://n4.nabble.com/Dynamic-labels-for-buttons-with-oddshaped-icon-images-td337687.html#a337687 It dealt with the very issue you're asking about. In essence, you play with the margins of the button to move the label over the icon image. And then, I'd almost forgotten, I played around with the idea and came up with the following script. The image I was using was a simple, 3-D- looking circle. The script sets the icon and a bunch of properties to superimpose the label on the image: on mouseUp put the short name of img "redCircle" into tTargetIcon set the height of btn "myBtn" to the height of img tTargetIcon set the width of btn "myBtn" to the width of img tTargetIcon put the margins of btn "myBtn" into s set the icon of btn "myBtn" to the ID of img tTargetIcon set the showBorder of btn "myBtn" to false set the opaque of btn "myBtn" to false set the textColor of btn "myBtn" to "220,255,220" set the textSize of btn "myBtn" to 14 set the textStyle of btn "myBtn" to "bold" # my massaging of Jacque's and Klaus's version --put (the height of btn "myBtn" - the textheight of btn "myBtn" - the effective textsize of btn "myBtn") div 2 into tMargin -- put the height of btn "myBtn" div 2 into tTopMarg -- put tTopMarg - (the textheight of btn "myBtn" div 2)- 1 into tBottomMarg -- set the margins of btn "myBtn" to 0,tTopMarg,0,tBottomMarg # Wilhelm's version put the icon of btn "myBtn" into tID put the height of img ID tID into timgheight set the height of btn "myBtn" to (timgheight + the textHeight of btn "myBtn") put the height of btn "myBtn" into tBtHeight # the line above to simplify the following computations put (2* (tBtHeight-(the textHeight of btn "myBtn" + the effective textSize of btn "myBtn"))) / tBtHeight into tDivFactor put (the height of btn "myBtn" - the textHeight of btn "myBtn" - the effective textSize of btn "myBtn") / tdivfactor into tMargin set the margins of btn "myBtn" to 0,tMargin,0,tMargin end mouseUp HTH Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Button Icon Placement
On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:03 AM, Dan Friedman wrote: Hello... Is there a way to have an icon on a button and have the label centered, but not under the button? I know if you set the textStyle to left or right, then the icon is centered. But, if you set the textStyle to centered, then the text lies below the icon. My goal is to use a custom button graphic (up and down states) and the button name (label) would display normally, over the icon. Any insight would be appreciated. Dan, Check out this thread from the list from one year ago: http://n4.nabble.com/Dynamic-labels-for-buttons-with-oddshaped-icon-images-td337687.html#a337687 It dealt with the very issue you're asking about. In essence, you play with the margins of the button to move the label over the icon image. Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT]Re: Best Release Practices and the word "fortnight"
On Feb 18, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Luis wrote: I was reading the list of ingredients on an English bottle of ketchup we had bought in Spain A free weeks subscription to the Rev Use List for anyone who knows the origin of the word ketchup without looking it up in the dictionary. Well, the urban legend I've always heard is that Heinz wanted to differentiate themselves from the competition, so invented an alternate spelling of 'catsup'. I also remember a tomato-y sauce in Indonesian restaurants in Holland called 'ketjap' (I may be misremembering the spelling.) Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Localization
On Feb 12, 2010, at 8:21 AM, Jeff Massung wrote: If anyone can suggest how I can end up getting the above example to work, I'm all ears... and feet. ;-) Jeff, I don't know if you have gotten it working yet, or at what level you are with unicode, but a couple of years ago I wrote an article to try to unravel some of the confusion surrounding using unicode in Rev. You may find it useful. See it at: http://revolution.byu.edu/unicode/unicodeInRev.php Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac OSX Leopard and server connections
On Feb 5, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Dan Soneson wrote: Hi everyone, I have a rather odd problem using rev applications on Mac OSX Leopard, connecting to a server on my network. I connect to a server with an Applescript command: do theScript as Applescript. I can do this just fine. But if I unmount the server by dragging it's icon to the trash, then remount from within Rev eventually Rev reads the name of the server differently. Let's say the name of the server is "George". I can connect to "George" several times, but eventually Rev or Leopard appends a digit to the name of the mounted volume. Originally, the path to file "Textfile.txt" on the server named "George" will be "/Volumes/George/Textfile.txt" However, after a few connections (don't know how many or exactly when this happens), the path to the file becomes "/Volumes/George-1/Textfile.txt". Oddly enough, the icon on the desktop for the volume is still "George". However, any reference to the file "Textfile.txt" from within Rev now will fail, since Rev reads the connection as "/Volumes/George-1/ Textfile.txt" but is still looking for "/Volumes/George/ Textfile.txt"! This gets somewhat frustrating, since I never know when it will happen, and once it does, I can no longer transfer files back and forth between the server and the computer. Has anyone seen this behavior? Do you have a workaround or a suggestion to get around this problem? I never had the problem working with pre-Leopard operating systems on the Mac, but it is now cropping up since all our computers in a lab are now running Leopard. Another issue may be that the physical server (now running OSX Snow Leopard) has several share points, each of which may be mounted as individual volumes, one of which is the aforementioned "George". Mounting and unmounting several of these share points may bring about the re-numbering issue. Rebooting the individual computer doesn't seem to help either. Thanks for any suggestions. Dan, Maybe not a complete answer, but a clue: When OS X mounts volumes with the same name the way it keeps them separate in the Volumes list is by appending a number to the duplicate name. I have sometimes seen cases where the OS somehow doesn't get the message that a volume was ejected, and if it is remounted the volume name appears with a number appended. Open the terminal and type 'ls /Volumes' to see a list of all mounted volumes. Maybe what you need to do is check for the existence of the volume before you try to mount it? Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why are locking size and position treated as one?
On Feb 5, 2010, at 8:35 AM, Mark Swindell wrote: I asked this a couple of days ago and got no response so I thought I'd try again. Why are locking size and position of an image inextricably linked? They seem to me to be two separate entities. I know how to get around the situation via script, but I don't know why there should be the inconvenience of having to "get around" anything. Is there a good reason for this or is it just a legacy reality that could be changed? Why not be able to drag an image around whose size is constrained? Mark, There is a long-standing enhancement request on this: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=2242 Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Simple post examples
On Feb 1, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Jim Ault wrote: On Feb 1, 2010, at 5:47 PM, Devin Asay wrote: Hello all, I'm planning to teach my students how to post data to web servers and get back results in their stacks. I've got a couple of examples, but I wonder if anyone could point me to some examples that would be simple enough for beginners. I'm thinking of things like doing a Google search from a stack, looking up a weather report, getting local movie information, etc. I don't have any examples handy since I post to my own data processing servers from Rev, but here is an idea. Most web forms use the POST method and you can find out by looking at the source where it will specify either GET or POST. The GET method, of course means the name=value pairs are added to the url. "http://www.google.com?q=desert+oasis&language=EN"; The POST method sends the name=value pairs in a data packet that is invisible. The form uses the names of the input fields/buttons/ckboxes and their values to prepare the data packet. So, find forms that use 'POST', note the field names, and make your own Rev post (name=value&name=value) If a web page form is programmed for GET, then it likely will ignore incoming POST commands. Thanks, Jim. Great advice, and perhaps a logical instructional progression starting with showing how GET urls work then moving to POSTing to a URL. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
