runrev 20 alpha4 state
I did not follow the RR discussion for a while. I'd like to ask someone from the community the following. (1) Is RR 2.0alpha4, that is 2.0B0.97, stable enough, from the experience? (1a) at least as stable as 1.1.1r2 -- which is stable? (2) what does it mean: field palette, and other palettes are not available? The field inspector is there. (2a) the color properties are more hard to access than before. (3) where is documentation about version 2.0? At least some deltas would be needed by me. thanks for an answer. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
release date
I did not follow the RR discussion for a while, therefore: When will Runtime revolution 2.0 be released ? Could it be in March 2003? Peter Fink
menus: menu item numbers?
Is it possible to work with menu items by item number, instead of by name
(label)?
I would need it
- to set the currently selected item ("set the menuItem of btn "optionmenu"
to 3")
- to find the currently selected item ("put the menuItem of btn "optionmenu"
into V")
instead of the scripted workarounds:
- setting the label myself ("set the label of btn "optionmenu" to line 3 of
btn "optionmenu")
and on menupick pItem
- finding the item number myself ("put lineoffset(pItem,text of btn
"optionmenu") into V")
Peter
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Re: How to create a MPEG movie
>-- Original-Nachricht -- >From: Claus Dreischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: How to create a MPEG movie >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:36:55 +0200 > > >> Hi > >Hi Peter, >(first time i can give an answer here :) > > >> What tool(s) would allow me to create a movie in .MPEG format? How is that >> usually done? What is .MPEG, as opposed to .AVI with some compressor? > >Most used MPEG formats are MPEG 1 (Video CD) and MPEG 2 (Super Video CD, > >DVD). > >Best (quality/cost) programm for encoding is the Tsunami MPEG Encoder, >TMPGEnc. It's Windows only. > >http://www.tmpgenc.net/e_main.html > Claus thanks for the hint to TMPGEnc. I used it in between and it did exactly the job I needed. thanks again Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Develop / Test / Build Cycle
I always (always refers to HC) had a card which contained the script to create the distribution. it made a selective copy of the stack, containing the distributive cards only. Additionally it made automatic translations from translation cards, since here I need at least two language versions. The test code (scripts, objects) was disabled, hidden and the like, or thrown out. The built-in standalone builder is just one step in the creation of golden master for distribution. I would even consider making the standalone application "standard", without contents. Compare it to C++: you have to build separately, without debug symbols. And so on. >-- Original-Nachricht -- >Subject: Re: Develop / Test / Build Cycle >From: Rick Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:55:19 -0400 > > >on 7/24/2002 10:07 AM, jez at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Perhaps I am missing something but I cannot see any way to separate the Test >phase (using the Browse tool - the hand - in development mode) from the >Build phase. Values that are put into all my text boxes, etc in Browse >(test) mode are saved with the stack, and when the application is built >these then become the default values at run time. > >There does not seem to be a property of an item which forces the item to >be >cleared at build/run time, which to my mind is the most logical solution. > >Currently I have to create a function which manually clears all the fields >I >want cleared, and call that manually from the Msg window before I want to >Save and Build the application. The "SaveStackRequest" message does not seem >to fire when I save the stack - otherwise I could just call my function from >that. > >Any ideas anyone ? > >Jez,. > >The way you are doing things is correct. I've always had to clear all the >fields before creating my standalones. >Yes it is a pain in the but your little script to clear the fields is >the way to go until a new revision of Rev addresses >this issue. > >Good Luck! > >Rick Harrison > > ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Develop / Test / Build Cycle
I always (always refers to HC) had a card which contained the script to create the distribution. it made a selective copy of the stack, containing the distributive cards only. Additionally it made automatic translations from translation cards, since here I need at least two language versions. The test code (scripts, objects) was disabled, hidden and the like, or thrown out. The built-in standalone builder is just one step in the creation of golden master for distribution. I would even consider making the standalone application "standard", without contents. Compare it to C++: you have to build separately, without debug symbols. And so on. >-- Original-Nachricht -- >Subject: Re: Develop / Test / Build Cycle >From: Rick Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:55:19 -0400 > > >on 7/24/2002 10:07 AM, jez at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Perhaps I am missing something but I cannot see any way to separate the Test >phase (using the Browse tool - the hand - in development mode) from the >Build phase. Values that are put into all my text boxes, etc in Browse >(test) mode are saved with the stack, and when the application is built >these then become the default values at run time. > >There does not seem to be a property of an item which forces the item to >be >cleared at build/run time, which to my mind is the most logical solution. > >Currently I have to create a function which manually clears all the fields >I >want cleared, and call that manually from the Msg window before I want to >Save and Build the application. The "SaveStackRequest" message does not seem >to fire when I save the stack - otherwise I could just call my function from >that. > >Any ideas anyone ? > >Jez,. > >The way you are doing things is correct. I've always had to clear all the >fields before creating my standalones. >Yes it is a pain in the but your little script to clear the fields is >the way to go until a new revision of Rev addresses >this issue. > >Good Luck! > >Rick Harrison > > ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: diffdays (Schaltjahr)
>> a Switching Year (Schaltjahr) algorithm for calculation of the >> length of >> february, and a list of the length of the months (31,28,31,30,31 etc.). > >It looks like Switching Year is what I know as Leap Year. > >Dar > Dar you're right. The more hurting issue is not related to date and RR. A "button" is locally, and thru all Germany called a "Switching Area" (Schaltfläche), not a "Leap Area". Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: diffdays
>-- Original-Nachricht -- >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: sims <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: diffdays >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:55:44 +0300 > > >>sims: it is not a lot of work to do the date conversion by hand. it needs >>a Switching Year (Schaltjahr) algorithm for calculation of the length of >>february, and a list of the length of the months (31,28,31,30,31 etc.). >>You can even use the partially correct date items to do part of the parsing. >> >Peter > >Yes, I am sure that it can be calculated (although I had never heard of the >Schaltjahr, thank you for telling me about it). > >At 22:14 -0700 07/17/2002, Richard Gaskin wrote: >>Would be nicer to have DateToJulian and JulianToDate functions built into >>the engine > >I agree with Richard - it would be 'nicer' to be able to do it easier. > it is no more than about 20 lines of code, from a parsed date. and an option on a control card whether to use the RR built-in code or the application hand-made code. Both are nice and easy. actually it is better to have the starting days of the months in a list, i.e. 0,31,59,90,... for a non-switching year, but 0,31,60,91,... for a switching year. Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: diffdays
>-- Original-Nachricht -- >Subject: Re: diffdays >From: Terry Vogelaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 06:22:16 +0200 > > >Sims: >> I changed it as follows but it still puts 730 days. >> 7/17/1900 to 7/17/2002 is a bit more days than that. > >Peter: >> you uncovered a bug. >> it is easier to try the following, using Script Debug Mode. >> >> on mouseUp >> put "17.7.1901" into dateA >> convert dateA from short system date to dateItems >> end mouseUp >> >> and see 2001,7,17,2,0,0,3 . > >The problem in both cases is that the input is not 'correct'. A short date >has only two digits for the year: 7/17/01. Using the CenturyCutOff property, >you can determine when you mean 1901 or 2001. Conclusion: only use a short No, that's not the problem. There's a bug. Additionally, dateItems sets midnight to 2 AM which is also a bug. sims: it is not a lot of work to do the date conversion by hand. it needs a Switching Year (Schaltjahr) algorithm for calculation of the length of february, and a list of the length of the months (31,28,31,30,31 etc.). You can even use the partially correct date items to do part of the parsing. Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How to create a MPEG movie
Hi this is not really a RR question. The context that I can play MPEG movies in RR but the ones I pulled from the internet are not really presentable. I'm also able to create a movie, from my web cam, in .AVI format, e.g. with INDEO 5 compression (and others). But I cannot make it in .MPEG format. Saving with Microsoft MPEG V4 compression does not work either. What tool(s) would allow me to create a movie in .MPEG format? How is that usually done? What is .MPEG, as opposed to .AVI with some compressor? Thanks for all answers! Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Observations Re: Images--Followup
someone wrote (my webmailer does not handle this well): >-- Original-Nachricht -- >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>A resizeIcon property would be useful, but if it resizes the image, then >one >>has the caveat that if you want to use it in other instances at a different >>size... what happens? > > >It simply proved to be more trouble that it was worth to try to deal >with the issue of resizing each image for different sized buttons in >the current environment...which is why it would be a useful feature >to have built in if it can be done correctly. > I vote for images that can be scaled, cropped, possibly flipped, possibly rotated by n*90 degrees, sqr(possibly) rotated by any degree. Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
re: empty (images)
> > >>> controls. this left the images on a card. When I deleted the images >the >>> images I thought were stored in the image chooser were deleted as well. >> >> set the visible to false > >Shoa Sean, > >Thanks for your response. I discovered this work around. It works just fine >but is ... a bit sloppy. Is this really the way we are supposed to handle >images that are used as icons? > >It seems to me that this feature of RR needs a bit more work. It would be >nice if there were a way that you could store images in a stack without >having the image expressed as a object. Forinstance when you select the In my opinion the way how RR handles images as objects on cards, in a stack or a substack, is ok. In my larger stacks there are anyway some cards that hold the scripts and other program data. The images can go to similar cards. It makes sense if the images do not need be stored in every stack that uses them. It seems (by other posts) that this is indeed the case. Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
sample movie
I'm looking for some reasonable, i.e. PG or better rating, sample movies in avi and mpeg formats, or a download place. Ideally they would be 10 seconds, around 200-300 KBytes, size 132x172 or so. Most preferred would be cats. My recherche in the internet did not find such. Thanks for a pointer!! Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re3: More & More Movie Difficulties (./ Notation)
> >(f) play videoclip "./movie.avi" does not play the file in the defaultfolder. > The notation "./some-file" does not work in play videoclip "./some-file" and as the filename in a player. It does however work in the command open file "./some-file" The notation "../folder/some-file" works in all three cases. Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re2: More & More Movie Difficulties (videoclip, audioclip, player)
UPS, fact (e) is more subtle, on this Windows 98 SE system. (e1) play "movie.avi" does not play the file in the default folder, in case there is a videoclip with the same name present in the stack. Nothing is played. (e2) play "movie.avi" does indeed play the file in the default folder, if there is no videoclip with the same name in the stack. (f) and (g) continue to hold. (h1), (h2), (i), (k) are as (e1),(e2), (f), (g), for "movie.mpeg" . Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: More & More Movie Difficulties (videoclip, audioclip, player)
On this Windows 98 SE system, the following 11 facts hold, regarding movies, and the folling facts 4 regarding sounds. (a) play videoclip "movie.avi" does not play the movie that is contained in the stack. (b) play videoclip "movie.mpeg" does not the the movie that is contained in the stack. (c) play videoclip "f:/movie.avi" does play the file indicated. (d) play videoclip "f:/movie.mpeg" does play the file indicated. (e) play videoclip "movie.avi" does not play the file in the defaultfolder. (f) play videoclip "./movie.avi" does not play the file in the defaultfolder. (g) play videoclip "../revolution1.1.1/movie.avi) does play the file in the defaultfolder. (h) (i) (k) same for "movie.mpeg" as (e) thru (g). (l) creating a quicktime player works mostly as advertised, for movies. Except some .mpeg cause an error message "cannot create movie reference". (m) play audioclip "sound.wav" does play the sound contained in the stack. (n) play audioclip "f:/sound.wav" does play the file indicated. (o) creating a quicktime player works exactly as advertised, for wav and mp3 sound files. (p) a quicktime player is always at the front layer. It cannot be hidden with an opaque button (which would make sense, given the quality of some test videos that are available to me). Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
comment and questions of 12 jul 02
comment I'm now thru with the Transcript Dictionary, all 1303 pages. I consider it good documentation. The descriptions do contain the answer to most of the questions one might have und give a clear, concise idea of the RR concepts. The format and technical writing is good. I'd like to give a positive feedback here. questions of today (there are still some) 1) where is beep? it does not work for me. 2) can the linktext be entered in the development system, in some panel? 3) how to create spray, brush, cursor shapes as images? specially how to create the transparent pixels? 4)(repeat) how does the image library work? 5) how to make the little icons in the Go Back and See Also buttons of the Transcript Dictionary? thanks to Sarah, Klaus, Dave, Dar, Ken, Jan, Heather, Geoff and the whole community for their previous and future answers. Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Updating Data Substacks
> >Recently, Dan Shafer wrote: > >> It just occurred to me that the RR model which requires me to create >> a separate stack to hold the data for my app might be an obstacle to >> product upgrades. >> > my users to replace their current stack with the new one. But that >> will, obviously, result in the loss of all their data. >> >> How should this work? What am I missing? > updating the software will "always" need updating of the data, for the new data structure, anyway. your question was also relevant in HC. I solved it this way: on an application administration card of the (new) stack, there was an Import Data button. Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: comments and questions of 11 july 2002 (AltGr)
> >>5) I can't type the characters \ | [ ] @ in the script editor on a >>swiss-german >>keyboard, as they are typed here with the AltGr modifier key. How to fix >>this ? (I'm not asking for bypasses). >> >>Peter > >This may be a problem with some keyboards/drivers. Below is a part of >an old exchange from the Metacard list: > > >>> >I experience the same problem. Actually this is not @ but the >>> >right Alt key that is affected. Dave thanks, you point into a plausible direction. the AltGr key counts as an option key, and the script editor looks for it. My notebook has a left Alt and an AltGr. However not everything is transparent, because a test keydown handler in a field behaved strange: on keydown ch if the optionkey then pass keydown end keydown Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: comments and questions of 11 july 2002 (@)
>>> 5) I can't type the characters \ | [ ] @ in the script editor on a >> swiss-german >> keyboard, as they are typed here with the AltGr modifier key. How to fix >> this ? (I'm not asking for bypasses). > >I am working with a german keyboard and have no problems getting these >chars. > >> , as they are typed here with the AltGr modifier key. > >What exactly do you mean by this ? > >These characters cannot be typed on windows but with the ALT-GR-key. Klaus, this does mean that, when I press the keys that should produce said characters, they do not go into the script in the script editor of RR. For example AltGr+2 does not produce the @ (Deutsch (Schweiz)) For example AltGr+Q does not produce the @ (Deutsch (Standard)). Could you try on your system pls? Thanks Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
comments and questions of 11 july 2002
Comments I'm really impressed by RR. it is rich of features. Everything on the HC level I touched works. The new things that I touched work too. I'm impressed by images (blend, image icons) and sound (QT player). The additions upon HC make sense. There are glitches, but no worse than other environments I know. Questions 1) menuButton() function: what is it supposed to do? it does not return a sensible result to me. 2) newTool message: I do get this message for the choose someTool command in a script, but not when a tool is clicked in the object or paint palette. How to make that work? 3) how to edit a polygon graphic: I can move points and insert new points (even accidentally), but how to delete a point? 4) what are the built-in sounds, if any? where is "boing", "harpsichord"? where is play "boing" tempo 200 "c4e c dq c f eh" ? 5) I can't type the characters \ | [ ] @ in the script editor on a swiss-german keyboard, as they are typed here with the AltGr modifier key. How to fix this ? (I'm not asking for bypasses). Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
script editor @\[ ] on non-english keyboard
- I cant type the following characters in the script editor. In a text field
however (and elsewhere) it works.
@ \ | [ ] { }
these characters have to be typed locally with the Alt Gr modifier, or with
ctrl+alt.
- Additionally, pressing Alt Gr opens the script editor (seemingly half
the time only, or Alt Gr 2x) in addition to placing the character in the
field.
- my keyboard is swiss-german Deutsch (Schweiz) where those characters are
on Alt Gr positions. The same phenomen is also on the FRG-german keyboard
setting Deutsch (Standard) where all the characters are on different positions
(but all with Alt Gr). This is on Windows.
Peter
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RE: numberFormat prop
> >Rob, > >>> Anybody know how to set the decimal precision of a numeric value? I have >>> looked through the docs but I can't seem to find the reference. >> >> Hi Steve, >> >> Did you check the numberFormat property? > thats easy, fields do not have a numberFormat property. It works as follows: set the numberFormat to "0.00" put (numeric expression) into fld "xy" set the numberFormat to "0.000" add 0 to fld "xy" set the numberFormat to "0." put fld "xy"+0 into fld "xy" set the numberFormat to "0.0" put (numeric expression) & "" into variable true, at least it worked this way in Hypercard (see p. 442). Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Questions of 7 jul 02 (socketID)
> >The parameter is the socketID for TCP. It has this format: > >ipAddress:port|connectionID > Scott you are right, the parameter to the callback msg is a socketID. (I was wrong and would have changed my posting if possible). (what is also true: accept "assigns" a connection ID, but does not deliver it to the script(s). the script(s) learn the connection ID at callback time and in the form of a socket ID.) Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Questions of 7 jul 02 (import thanks)
>Both these can be answered by getting the ID of the last image just >after importing. >on mouseUp > import snapshot > put the ID of last image into newID > answer "The new image has an ID of " & newID >end mouseUp > Sarah, many thanks. Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Questions of 7 jul 02 (image library)
>> 4) how to work with the image library? how to accumulate images to be used >> as icons? >> (I found that an image placed on a card appears in the image library and >> can be used as an icon (really great), but how put an image into >> the library >> without showing it on a card first) >> > >FWIW, I'm not too crazy about the image library. You'll need to copy the >images from the library to your stack before creating an executable (unless >you include the image library stack) and when you copy the images, they all >get new image ID's which screws up your icons on your buttons. I've found >it >better to just copy the images I want to a blank card on my stack, then >reference them from there. > Chipp thanks for your opinion. it is not clear how to work with the library. your suggestion to place the images on a blank card makes sense. Thats what I'm doing for other objects anyway, since ever. Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Questions of 7 jul 02 (connectionID)
> >>> 1) accept command returns a connectionID. How and where is it >>> returned? >> >> Peter, It's returned with the message. > > >If the accept is for tcp (the "datagram" keyword is not included), >the message has only one parameter. It is a socketID, a string >used to represent the connection. It uniquely represents the >connection created. It includes the remote IP address and port, >but that is not always enough to make the connection unique, so a >connectionID is added. As far as I know, its only use is to make Scott thanks. The RR docs say that the parameter to the callback msg of accept is the IP address, but you specify that it is the connection ID. This clarifies it. Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Questions of 7 jul 02
I'd like to ask if someone could help me clarify some questions that I did not find the answer to. 1) accept command returns a connectionID. How and where is it returned? 2) import command creates an image. how to reference that image? what is its ID? 3) import snapshot creates an image. how to reference that image? what is its ID? 4) how to work with the image library? how to accumulate images to be used as icons? (I found that an image placed on a card appears in the image library and can be used as an icon (really great), but how put an image into the library without showing it on a card first) thanks for help (or a pointer to where all this is documented). Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Participation in Improvement List
>-- Original-Nachricht -- >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: Geoff Canyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Participation in Improvement List I'm right now in the processing of learning Revolution RR. It looks like a great tool. Since I'm yet learning I will not contribute in detail to the subject. RR looks stable, featureful, useful and with the same amount of glitches that similar tools in the course of development do have (remember anyone those Basilisk builds <100?). Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Script Editor Menus missing
The script editor menus: File, Edit and Text are missing. They are in the Documentation. The other menus: Handler, Script, Bookmarks and View are present in the script editor window. And there are some little buttons for example Plain Bold and LineWrapAround. The Script and View menus contain some of the missing commands. I'm not sure if this matters or is just a newer script editor. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re Manual Announcement
>shipping to Switzerland is rated at $35. We count it as part of Europe, >even if not part of the EU. USD 134 (total amount), or USD 114 is next to nothing, or infinitely huge, depending on the use to be made. And it is not just one item, but to be multiplied by a dozen other tools. I agree however completely that no one can do its work below cost (there might the PDF distribution be handy, which does not require a printer and a dhl). Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Documentation another PDF
First thanks to Jan and Ken for pointing me to the resources. I'd like to post my other, derived version of the PDFed online docs at the address below. main difference is a bookmarked structure. http://home.tiscalinet.ch/peter.fink/ Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Manual announcement
Hi, According the shop this costs extra 35$ (at least inside EU). This keeps me from ordering at the moment. Or will my credit card just show the promised 79$ ? Can someone please fix the shop. pleasepleaseplease :) Gruß, Claus Dreischer. Shipping to Switzerland is even more, USD 55, from UK (while actual shipping cost isn o more than around USD10). Switzerland is still in Europe. Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Documentation
It is great that there is structured documentation now. Big question: is it available PDF'ed? Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
