Re: delete last char in Datagrid

2009-08-09 Thread Robert M.

I just had same problem and finally decided NOT to use the datagrid editcell,
but to stick to the normal cell behaviour (with focusable propertty of grid
template fields on) and to trap the openfield closefield msg at the group
level, in the datagrid behavior script. It workds like a charm, with one
click (I might need a license for that!).

Except.. I'm just opeening up a pbl thread with datagrid.. relative to the
order of visit of lines using tabulations (see on list)

Robert


Trevor DeVore wrote:
 
 On Aug 4, 2009, at 7:54 PM, Josep wrote:
 
 But how can edit directly the cell of the datagrid without making a
 doubleclick?
 
 This lesson should do what you need. It shows you how to update data  
 in a row (or cell).
 
 How Do I Update Data In a Row?:
 http://revolution.screenstepslive.com/spaces/revolution/manuals/datagrid/lessons/5434-How-Do-I-Update-Data-In-a-Row-
  
  
 
 Regards,
 
 -- 
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 www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com
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[datagrid] bug? TAB navigation follows INDEX order instead of LINE order

2009-08-09 Thread Robert M.

Hi , I finally solved the problem so far, but in a trick-diry way, and I
wondered if I was the only one to have experienced this problem.

problem is : on adding a line to the datagrid. The inserted line is IGNORED
by tabulation. And it cannot be hilited (visaully the hiliting just bounces
on it until next line! 

In detail : I selectHilite the line before (Line), but add a line from the
next one since it is inserted before (Line+1), the new line gets in position
Line+1 with an index (total lines+1), the former line+1 becomes line+2.
- When I tab from line LINE the tab jumps to line+2.
- I f I keep on tabbing, it goes past the latest line.. and back to the new
line+1
So temporalrily, the normal tabulation follows line numbering is out and the
tabulation follows index.. 

Solution is : I noticed, that, this behavior would stop and the normal line
to line tabulations work again as soon as the list is reconstructed on the
screen... 
So adding a line, then adding a character at the end of line LINE, then
deleting it, and then tab does the trick so far.. tab goes to the new line+1
and tab navigation is restored.


but I suspect it not the most efficient way to walk around.. this bug could
have other consequences.
-- Trevor do you have a clue on what's going on there?
-- have other people moniteroed this? (have looked into forums but saw
nothing of the sort.. )

thanks all
Robert






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[ANN] tRev Feature Friday Videos!

2009-08-08 Thread Robert M.

Hi Nicolas ! I have been a short while a frustrated explorator of tRev. I
gave details of my mishaps to Jerry who promptly replied. Meanwhile
everything gradually started working all right. I came to the following
conclusions :

- You really have to listen very precisely to Jerry's video to figure things
out,  but everything he presents finally did work with me... 

  ex 1 : for the autocompliton in french J  means G.. )
  ex 2 : the first item of the inspect menu should be
separated by a line
  because it is EITHER  apple-I and seeTHrough
exploration within tRev
  OR the other comands APPLIED within RunRev IDE

- I say FINALLY because it's weird, but it took some time and several trial
and quit and back to have it GRADUALLY (!!) running ok... I can't explain
but can only advise to take patience and quit runrev and trev come back
again, that's how I made it work.

We have to take into account it is a pre-release software and we must
realize that this a new solution to funding developmment of collective
interest. So it's a preety nice NRJ flowing. Have a good day, Robert.


Nicolas Cueto-4 wrote:
 
 Let's be clear -- I was not flaming or bashing Jerry's work at all.
 Why else, as Brian observed, would I return each time for more
 punishment? Cause the whole concept of Jerry's work, as frustrating as
 the software might be, is the way the Rev ide should ideally work.
 


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Setting paths to Externals

2009-08-08 Thread Robert M.

Hi I just came accross the same problem on mac os X 10.5.4 : 

Whatever I did, the only place where the stand alone actually finds the
external was right next to the main myapp.app 

Now the SOLUTION is .. evident : 1) we're talking relative paths.. 2) app
bundles are treated as files but are folders... 

So the reference to the externals should logically be : 
myapp.app/Contents/MacOs/Externals/myexternal.bundles

And it does work fine!! 

Robert M.


paolo mazza wrote:
 
 
 IN MACOSX 10.4.10  Intel
 
 I tryed everything under the sun to load the libkiosk.bundle external
 too.
 ...and at the end I found out that my stand alone application load the
 external only if  I put the external in the folder where is placed the
 application ( the defaultfolder of the standalone application).
 
 Isn't strange this?
 
 
 

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Re: [ANN] Watch a video about a whole new approach to script editing

2009-08-01 Thread Robert M.

thanks for your synthetic view. I must say .. i'm a bit.. shaken lately.. I
ran into big troubles trying to use my GLX editor while getting my hands on
datagrid programming.. : they do not seem to be compatible with each other.. 
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Re: [ANN] Watch a video about a whole new approach to script editing

2009-07-28 Thread Robert M.

Hi, what is not clear to me is how trev relates to GLX2 editor
-- what is common in the 2 prgrams,
-- what was left over in GLX
-- what's added in tRev

what is the cope of use of both a the tools?
thanks,
Robert (user of GLX2)


Jerry Daniels-2 wrote:
 
 
 We made a video showing it in action:
 
 http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie
 
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Re: [ANN] Watch a video about a whole new approach to script editing

2009-07-28 Thread Robert M.

Hi, what is not clear to me is how trev relates to GLX2 editor
-- what is common in the 2 prgrams, (I guess automatic completion)
-- what are function in GLX that have not been carried into Trex? (I guess
the debugger part)
-- what's added in tRev that is not in GLX? (I guess the visual inspector)

what is the cope of use of both a the tools?
thanks,
Robert (user of GLX2)


Jerry Daniels-2 wrote:
 
 
 We made a video showing it in action:
 
 http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie
 
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Re: [ANN] Watch a video about a whole new approach to script editing

2009-07-28 Thread Robert M.

Hi, what is not clear to me is how trev relates to GLX2 editor
-- what is common in the 2 prgrams, (I guess automatic completion)
-- what are function in GLX that have not been carried into Trex? (I guess
the debugger part)
-- what's added in tRev that is not in GLX? (I guess the visual inspector)

what is the cope of use of both a the tools?
thanks,
Robert (user of GLX2)


Jerry Daniels-2 wrote:
 
 
 We made a video showing it in action:
 
 http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie
 
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Re: [runrev DOC] how does parent scripting or behaviours work?

2009-07-26 Thread Robert M.

Thanks for the hint.. I did find engine change log for V.3.5, but behaviour
info is vague there and ParentScriptNotes.txt where details should have
been is missing out!

Had similar problem with version 4.00 for which splash21 saw the engine
change log, and it was not there either on my disk!

But then.. there is nowhere on runrev site to download those files in case
we need them!!

SO by the way I would be interested in getting my hand on version 4 engine
change log !
Robert


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Re: Audio Problem with revlet

2009-07-26 Thread Robert M.

I had similar problem when I tried a to turn a few audio stacks into revlet
to make sure audio playing and recording where OK.

I solved by making sure that the webplugin settings included writing to
disk, which may not be automatically detected. It then worked ok for me.

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[revlets] drag drop files onto revlet does not seem to work!?

2009-07-26 Thread Robert M.

I wanted to test shell access cause I need to use lameEncoding, and tried to
turn the lameEncode.rev (who is the author by the way?) into a revlet. The
app requires to drop the files to be coded onto an area and same for the
output folder.  Of course all works fine in the IDE

But on revlet :
-- the output folder is just not recognized as a drag  drop
-- the input file is accepted, I beleive by the browser that seem to
overtake opérations even over the revlet area. So the audio file
recognized by the browser replaces the revlet!! 

Any similar experiences, hints, solutions?

(p.s. as for using lameEncoder, It seems that shell  scripting commands are
off see :
http://www.nabble.com/Audio-Problem-with-revlet-ts24663671.html)

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Re: [runrev DOC] how does parent scripting or behaviours work?

2009-07-26 Thread Robert M.

Errare humanum est - I found out that behaVIOR is documented in the main
dictionnary :drunk:

There are 6 references to behavior (and not behavIOURS as I as a french
lad looked for...) 
and it would have been clearer to my view to keep the name as parentScript
because behaviors mostly refer to background behavior. But so it is.


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[runrev DOC] how does parent scripting or behaviours work?

2009-07-25 Thread Robert M.

First.. I appreciate work being done by runrev, but I really point out how...
strange to my view their policy regarding documentation is... and when I
write strange, I mean.. many other birds!

Precisely (once more..) I have been charmed by two articles mentionning
the new possibility of parent scripting a first step toward OO
programming.. BUT there seems to be NOWHERE to get PRECISE, FACTUAL, SIMPLE
DOCUMENTATION on that new feature... 

SO maybe I missed THE INFO somewhere.. ? COuld we gather here the info we
collectively have? Have we users to set up somewhere a wiki-manual???


So in essence PARENT SCRIPTING seems easy 


set the parentScript of button action to the long id of 
 button actionBehaviour of card Behaviours”

does put the long id in the last property at the bottom of the basic
properties inspector
so that clicking button action triggers script of button actionBehaviour

So I'll use that to make some CUSTOM CONTROLS
Have a ad-hoc card names custom controls
And i'll guess I'll put the original controls  scripts on a top line
and the ready to copy ones (with ref. to parentScripts) under the originals.

-

-- Any good practice hints and problems reports welcomed here to gather
the info.. thanks!


Cheers,
Robert








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Re: [weblet] How can a webLet communicate with the hosting html page?

2009-07-24 Thread Robert M.

Many thanks! it does work indeed so to make things 200% clear I made a little
test stack that prints out all the parameters taken into account by the
revletParams. 

cf.testParamsOk
http://www.nabble.com/file/p24654055/testParamsOK.rev testParamsOK.rev 

Cheers,
Robert
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Re: [weblet] How can a webLet communicate with the hosting html page?

2009-07-23 Thread Robert M.

Im' currently using dp3 build 900 - I can't see that mentionned in the log (i
don't have a log file but a read me first is that the same text? ) sorry
to bother but If I start missing out the rare information sources that are
official.. I'll stay forever in the dark!


- quote
I just updated the example for the new plugin and it's working again.  

This version uses the new stack property 'the revletParams' to pass the 
session variable to the revlet (as documented in the 4.0.0dp2 change 
log) :confused:.  Much cleaner.

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Re: [revLets] are revlet well protected ?

2009-07-23 Thread Robert M.

quoting splash21 in another thread :

The new revlet format doesn't have the plain text stack code visible in 
the file - (which is a good thing!) 

So use of revlets seem to be now more and more secure.. !

(not tested personnaly, just quoting)
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Re: [weblet] How can a webLet communicate with the hosting html page?

2009-07-23 Thread Robert M.

I'm still struggling to try and launch a revlet with the a dataFIle name as
parameter, for the app i'm working on.. !

Quoting nablle user splash21

I just updated the example for the new plugin and it's working again.   
This version uses the new stack property 'the revletParams' to pass the 
session variable to the revlet (as documented in the 4.0.0dp2 change 
log).  Much cleaner. Sample : http://splash21.on-rev.com/revlet/

But I did not find this revletParams stack property eventhough I use build
4.00dp3 build 900.
I created an empty stack, looked into the custum properties, the global
properties and variables : Nothing like revletParams !

WOuld it be possible to give some precisions? example of code?

The only way I found out is so far to use the web type RequestedName stack
property which does not seem to be used since the html test pages that are
created automatically with the revlet keep that parameter empty.
http://www.nabble.com/file/p24638678/test1.rev test1.rev 

Are we talking of the same door? or is there another one??

So.. I tried the requestedName door and it did not work at all!!
I posted my test stack named testParams on revOnline for anybody
interested in the matter!


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[revLets] are revlet well protected ?

2009-07-22 Thread Robert M.

Question is : suppose I pay a little something to use a revlet on a
restricted access page. Can I (shrude as I am!) get my hand on it somewhere,
so that I do not have to register or give one more cent to the greedy
developper!!!

e.i : how and where is the revlet stored during a session?

my test so far indicates I can't EASILY find it !! 
---
1) I downloaded http://ludovic.thebault.free.fr/test/test.html, found out
the name of the revlet in the HTML view : pendu.revlet , looked for the
file, could not find it!!

2) I saved the page in webarchive (safari), closed my internet connection,
opened... it did start!! aie.. I cleard the cache, restarted.. and that
time, the pendu wes totaly dead.. 

If anybody has any other clue, experience, confirmation or infirmation or
just information, please.. do post! thanks.

Well also, THOUSAND THANKS to the development team and let's all give the
world wonderful apps that will make us HAPPIER and HAPPIER!



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Re: RevMedia 4.0 alpha released

2009-07-22 Thread Robert M.

Hi!! I experienced a little problem with safari;

1) I downloaded, the new plugin. 
2) It did work nicely on firefox
3) it would not start in safari

Solution 4) I moved the old plugin and RR stuff way from the web plugin file
 5) re-installed fresh from site the new plugin

And it worked like a charm for me... 

So removing old webPlugin seems to be a solution?

Robert



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Re: RevMedia 4.0 alpha released

2009-07-22 Thread Robert M.

ScoreCues works like a charm.. on safari, mac os X latest, old macbook

What strikes me, is 
1- how fast the interface reacts. We really are in a new FEEL truly WEB-APP
!!! No waiting and obvious redrawing of the screen. It's very important to
me, so that's a very big turning point for a few of my sites-projects to get
to life now.

2- How quick the migration from a stack to a webApp can be made

Although, I have some apps that were made in the splash screen strategy :
these have to be turned into single stack apps before.

By the way, regarding ScoresCUes.. I found it limitative not to be able to
access directly by mood or instruments.. said a musician. Afterall is'n this
the most important criteria when you choose a music for video?? !

thanks for this nice demonstration!
Robert





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Re: [weblet] How can a webLet communicate with the hosting html page?

2009-07-22 Thread Robert M.

Hi! I wanted to turn back to your solution.. but I updated my runweb plugin
and spash21 does not work anymore! Just to let you know.. 

Now I'll try your solution in order to communicate to the revlet the name of
a file to open.

The objective is to be able to send a data-file by mail opening up in a
revlet browser page.
Problem is how to pass on the filename... 

If I get a first hack solution is :
-- include as a mail-attached-file the data-file
-- incude as a mail-attached-file an html page with
1- a simple form that has the name of the file and that is sent straight
away
2- a call to an .irev file like launchit.irev that :
 a- gets the name of the file from the form
 b- edit the XXX variable in the revlet binary file, replacing it
with the file name, then closing it
 c- launches the modified  revlet in another page

:drunk: Problem : what happens if two users get online... the revlet file
will be modified.. with filename of misterB before misterA had a chance... 

;-)maybe we wait until.. javscript comunication is added!!! 

whouau what a world : you can make marvellous animations with runrev4 that
look damn sexy but you just bang your head on the walls to just send a
little piece of data... do we sometimes forget.. what the essential is in
our lives??? !!

Robert


splash21 wrote:
 
 Where there's a will, there's a way
 This example is pretty basic and I've only tested it on Firefox/Vista.
 
 http://splash21.on-rev.com/revlet/
 
 You can send text from the web page to the revlet.  Communication can 
 flow the other way as well.
 
 I saved the test revlet stack with a variable containing a string of 'X' 
 characters in the openStack script.
 The .rev file is not embedded on the HTML page - instead there's a .irev 
 file embedded.  The .irev file opens the real revlet file as binary, 
 replaces the string of X's with the user's session key and spits the 
 resulting binary file out to the browser.  This gets downloaded as the 
 revlet which now contains the session key and can now communicate with 
 the web page.
 
 It may seem like a total hack of a workaround, but it's simple - and it 
 seems to work.  Hope some of you guys find it useful!
 
 JC
 
 
 Robert M. wrote:
 The webLets showed in the webinar are autistic : they only seem to work
 as a
 confined world with no interaction with the rest of the page.

 1) Is it possible to send them parameters, perhaps via a user  tag within
 the object tag??

 I hope they're not autistic, oh god I pray!

 2) is there a way to have one weblet communicate with another on the same
 page??? 

 Thanks... trying to figure out how to use weblets in my site design... 
   
 
 
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Re: [weblet] How can a webLet communicate with the hosting html page?

2009-07-18 Thread Robert M.

I got news from runrev and got the green light to pass on the info on Nabble
:
-
Obviously we have the goal of providing as much integration as possible
between a
web page and any embedded revlets. However, it should be noted that this is
actually quite challenging due to the vast array of browsers (and different
versions of browsers) that we need to support - all of which have their own
quirks
in the implementation of the Browser Plugin APIs.
Eventually we hope to be able to offer the following features (in rough
order of
current priority):

1) Revlets being able to execute javascript in the context of the html page
they
are embedded in.

2) Resizing of embedded revlets by using javascript in the hosting html
page.

3) The html page being able to invoke distinguished message handlers in
embedded
revlets.

Further details on these features will be made available as and when it
becomes
possible.

Regards,

Heather
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Re: [weblet] How can a webLet communicate with the hosting html page?

2009-07-06 Thread Robert M.

Thanks André for this suggestion.
-- We're very far from the simplicity of using just one and only one
language as advocated by runrev! 

-- I do find it is a pity that we cannot add user defined param. tags above
that would be turned into global variables by the plugin, it would be simple
and useful !!  example :  







User global variables
--  
--  





Also this question arose, because I was evaluating the different ways to use
webLets in site-design. I was considering building interactive palettes
(sets of buttons) to be incorporated in dynamaically build web-pages, so
that pages can be adaptative in size, instead of a fixed size page we can
make with a revlet.

So it remains to be cleard if the size modification of a weblet is a
possibility using the stand alone webplugin mode (when the weblet opens up
in an independant window, which does not have the limits of the html page..
a little prayer!! )

I don't know what you feel, but I was a little bit over enthousiastic at the
annouce that revlets would be a full implementation of runrev in a web
browser. The fixed size AND the impossibility to have param. passed reduces
the usage to added gimmicks to a page!!?

Do I miss something out?? 


Andre Garzia-3 wrote:
 
 Robert,
 
 in this first version of the plugin, there will be no direct way for
 the plugin to talk to the host page but you can script one using
 sessions. For example, you create a javascript that polls the server
 at a given interval checking for communication and you make the plugin
 write to that session when it needs to communicate with its host page.
 It's a three way communication, like both talking to the server
 instead of each other but it works wonder for the united nations so
 far so I think we can keep the traditions.
 
 Cheers
 andre
 
 
 On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Robert M.r...@free.fr wrote:

 Sorry folks.. I found out in the webinar that revlets can share the same
 revWeb instance and then communicate (it seems to be the default).

 Now remains the question of sending parameters from the html page to the
 revLet. Exemple : a little revLet that allow different kind of
 interactions
 with the element let's say the parapgraph of the division where the
 revlet
 sits. The revlet will need the database ref. of the paragraph to work on
 it.

 At some point within the page, one weblet will have to have a clue as to
 which context it is working within.

 Any clue? many thanks
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Re: [weblet] How can a webLet communicate with the hosting html page?

2009-07-06 Thread Robert M.

exemple of param. variable was in html code... i stripped of the tags

object classid=CLSID:B2EC94AF-4716-4300-824A-3314BF23664A width=320
height=240
param name=src value=YOURSTACKFILEURL.rev
param name=type value=application/x-revolution
param name=stack value=StackName
param name=instanceID value=0 

-- User global variables proposed
--  param name=contextPage value=ID234667
--  param name=contextDiv value=ID9

embed src=YOURSTACKFILEURL.rev type=application/x-revolution
width=320 height=240 stack=StackName instanceid=0
/embed
/object


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Re: [revLets] to what extend can the area of a revLet be modified??

2009-07-06 Thread Robert M.

Yes!! this is exactly the behaviour I had expected... so that the weblet
really mimics the app on mac or windows, allowing to develop an app (rich
web app)  instead of an html site.

I do hope that folks at runrev can clear this point.
Robert


Terry Judd wrote:
 
 On 6/07/09 8:47 AM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:
 
 Robert,
 
 I don't think any plugin can alter it's rect, no matter if it is
 flash, movie or runrev.
 
 Although if you run a Flash swf file directly in a browser (not embedded
 within some html) it takes up the whole browser and resizes dynamically
 when
 you resize the browser.
 
 Terry...
 
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[revLets] to what extend can the area of a revLet be modified??

2009-07-04 Thread Robert M.

In the webinar introducing revLets to all of us, the presenter insisted that
it was necessary to specify very precisely the size of the revLet in the
html tags parameters of the html father-page.

= 1) Does that mean that embedded revLets can only be of FIXED size?? If
this is true.. it is a rather big limitation to interface designing... !!!

?? Is there a way around, like dynimcally changing the size paramter in the
html tags?

= 2) Will the full power of RunRev be available in the independant window
mode (using revWeb plugin, outside a browser, which appeared in the
presentation as a possibility) thus enabling adapting the size of the revlet
to the screen??

I do hope runrev can answer these questions... thanks:handshake:



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[weblet] How can a webLet communicate with the hosting html page?

2009-07-04 Thread Robert M.

The webLets showed in the webinar are autistic : they only seem to work as a
confined world with no interaction with the rest of the page.

1) Is it possible to send them parameters, perhaps via a user  tag within
the object tag??

I hope they're not autistic, oh god I pray!

2) is there a way to have one weblet communicate with another on the same
page??? 

Thanks... trying to figure out how to use weblets in my site design... 
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Re: [weblet] How can a webLet communicate with the hosting html page?

2009-07-04 Thread Robert M.

Sorry folks.. I found out in the webinar that revlets can share the same
revWeb instance and then communicate (it seems to be the default).

Now remains the question of sending parameters from the html page to the
revLet. Exemple : a little revLet that allow different kind of interactions
with the element let's say the parapgraph of the division where the revlet
sits. The revlet will need the database ref. of the paragraph to work on it.

At some point within the page, one weblet will have to have a clue as to
which context it is working within.

Any clue? many thanks
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Re: How can runrevWeblet work directly within html-mail?

2009-07-02 Thread Robert M.

Thank you ian for the very informative link you provided on how flash works
in email apps (answer is it does not!) 


Ian Wood-3 wrote:
 
 I wasn't aware that web plugins (other than QT on a Mac) worked within  
 mail clients.
 
 Ian
 
 P.S. http://www.campaignmonitor.com/blog/post/1974/the-truth-about-1/
 
 On 30 Jun 2009, at 14:29, Robert M. wrote:
 
 Hi, maybe not the right place to post, but can't find anyother place..

 So I'd like to be able to attach a runrevWeblet to a mail and have  
 it run
 directly within mail app  equivalents.

 Is this.. total dream, or feasable, in the future? When??
 
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How can runrevWeblet work directly within html-mail?

2009-06-30 Thread Robert M.

Hi, maybe not the right place to post, but can't find anyother place.. 

So I'd like to be able to attach a runrevWeblet to a mail and have it run
directly within mail app  equivalents.

Is this.. total dream, or feasable, in the future? When??

So far i've juste experimented by trying to send as email the page of the
pionner runrevWeblet test page.
I get 2 results : sometimes juste the colorful background, other times just
blank page with cube  ? as if mail did not find a plugin... I guess it
has something to do wit layers. depending which layer is taken !

If anybody ahas any clue and particularly runrev.. ??! thanks!

It's not that dramatic : I can always send a stack as attached file and have
it opened as a stand alone by the side, but it would be simpler and cleaner
to have it oepend directly within mail.. and it could open up some nice
perspectivs! 

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