Re: Desktop to iPad
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 8:09 AM, edward cawley wrote: > Just starting to look at Revmobile, I have an app which runs on desktop . I'd > like to modify it to the ipad. I reduced the stack size to 1000,700 which > should fit the ipad. I have an animated Gif on the first card with a > dimension of 700,452. When I make a landscape iPad on the simulator only a > portion of the image is shown. Now the simulation iPad app is not the actual > size of the ipad. Would the image show up in the actual device? If not, what > do I have to do to see what the ipad image would be? Edward, the iPad screen is 1024 x 768 or 768 x 1024 depending on orientation. After that, you need to take 20 pixels off for the status bar at the top, which makes the effective dimensions 1004 x 768 or 748 x 1024. You can set the orientation using the iphoneRotateInterface command. If you want to control how you allow the user to rotate, you need to handle the orientationChanged message as shown in the handbook. When a rotation occurs, you get a resizeStack message which you can use to adjust the size of your gif, or show/hide different images. In the simulator, there are menu items to allow you to simulate a rotation. The actual scale of the simulator screen depends on your screen res, but is an accurate representation of what you will see on the actual iPad screen. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Hardware recommendation for graphics card?
Peter, I am a Mac person but my sons use Windows PCs for gaming, so since nobody else had chimed in, I'll have a go. From what they tell me, integrated graphics are not good enough for any high-end graphics processing, which I would assume includes Photoshop. With the newly released MacBook Air, apparently Apple went for a lower end processor so they could include a separate graphics card as they reckoned this gave better performance than a faster chip with integrated graphics. But I don't know how much of this performance is due to Grand Central distributing the processing between the GPU & the CPU. Anyway, I recommend you research graphics cards - Nvidia or ATI seem to be the favourites at the moment - and spend the money there rather than on a faster CPU with integrated graphics. Cheers, Sarah On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: > Friend of mine asked for advice on what sort of graphics card to put in a > machine he is putting together for his kid. It will be i5 probably, and he > wants to get something that will be respectable with photoshop processing. > An i3 of mine with onboard graphics was definitely not fast enough for him. > > Is i5 even enough, should he go for i7? Its not my area of expertise. I > am not even sure about the relative contributions of the graphics card and > the processor in this. > > Any suggestions gratefully received. Money is an issue, but he wants > something that will do a decent job first and foremost. > > Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: serial port problems
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Larry Walker wrote: > I am trying to read data from a "serial port" (using a USB-serial adaptor). > > I am on a MacBook Pro running 10.5.8, using LiveCode 4.5, and Prolific model > 2303 USB-serial adaptor. > > The following code does not work: > > on mouseUp > put "modem:" into usbSerial > put empty into field "Field" > > open driver usbSerial for text read > read from driver usbSerial for 5 chars > put it after field "field" > > close driver usbSerial > end mouseUp > > Setting a breakpoint on the "read from" shows that the "open" does not > appear to fail. Single-stepping through the read does not wait for any input > from the connected terminal, it returns immediately. "It" is empty > afterward. > > By reading for N chars I believe I am side-stepping any line -terminator > issues. > > I have confirmed that the USB-serial adaptor and the terminal can talk to > each other properly, using the command-line invocation: 'screen > /dev/tty.usbserial'. I have confirmed that the serialControlString matches > the terminal's settings. > > This fail whether I use "open file" or "open driver". > This fails whether I use "modem" or "printer" as the device. > > If I use /dev/tty.usbserial", the IDE hangs and I have to Force-Quit it. OK, I haven't tried any of this with LC 4.5, but if Mark says nothing has changed, then this should still be valid. Firstly, "modem:" is unlikely to work. Some Keyspans allow you to configure one of their connections to appear to be a modem, but unless your Mac actually has a modem, then this is not going to connect to anything. You MUST install drivers for your adapter. In your case, Prolific supply all the drivers at <http://www.prolific.com.tw/eng/downloads.asp?id=31>. Once you have the drivers installed, check the driverNames again and hopefully something will show up. Here is what I get on a Mac with a Keyspan (two port) and a generic FTDI adapter attached and Rev 4.0: usbserial-FTC8J5X3,/dev/tty.usbserial-FTC8J5X3,/dev/cu.usbserial-FTC8J5X3 KeySerial1,/dev/tty.KeySerial1,/dev/cu.KeySerial1 USA28X1a2P1.1,/dev/tty.USA28X1a2P1.1,/dev/cu.USA28X1a2P1.1 USA28X1a2P2.2,/dev/tty.USA28X1a2P2.2,/dev/cu.USA28X1a2P2.2 Bluetooth-PDA-Sync,/dev/tty.Bluetooth-PDA-Sync,/dev/cu.Bluetooth-PDA-Sync Each line of the driverNames contains 3 items. The one you need to use is the last one, starting with "/dev/cu.". To open the port to the first device on the list, I would use: global gPortName put "/dev/cu.usbserial-FTC8J5X3" into gPortName open driver gPortName for binary update if the result is not empty then answer error "Unable to open port" & cr & the result end if When finished, close the port using: close driver gPortName But you may need to adjust the serial port settings before you can actually send and receive data. This depends on the device you are communicating with, rather than the adapter, but my serial test stack allows easy access to the common settings, so you can test this. When writing, again it depends on the device. Some require a fixed number of bytes, some need a specific end-of-line. Use my test stack to work this out if you don't have the docs. Reading: the problem with reading a fixed number of bytes is that the bytes you don't read are still in the buffer and will mess up your next read. This may not matter if you are closing the port after each read, but I always prefer to use: read from driver gPortName until empty in 90 ticks This grabs everything it can inside the time limit. Then I can work out whether I have received multiple signals, or a partial signal and act accordingly, either processing the segments in a loop, or asking the serial port for more data. I hope this helps you get started, but if not, feel free to get back to me, either on or off list. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bl**dy Laptop Keyboards
Richmond, on my short Mac keyboard, pressing Fn + Return is the same as Enter. I don't know what type of laptop you are talking about, but this might be the answer. Cheers, Sarah On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Richmond wrote: > I want to have an end-user press the ENTER key, and NOT the RETURN key; > and that is all "well and jolly" on most PC/Mac keyboards. > > BUT, on laptops this seems a "no-no" as there is no numeric keypad to the > right of the qwerty/azerty > part, and what should be the RETURN key seems to combine the functions of > the RETURN and the > ENTER keys . . . > > . . . Does anybody know of any way to get round this problem (and I don't > mean remapping to some > completely different key on the keyboard) . . . ??? > > sincerely, Richmond. > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- Cheers, Sarah Rodeo discussion: http://alltiera.com/discussion/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode applications accepted in iOS App Store
>> Congratulations! >> >> What is the name of the App? I'd love to download it and have a look! > > The email from Apple says "Your app is now Ready for Sale" but that the link > can take "up to 24 hours" to go live in the iTunes store - this is an > automated process that occurs after an App has been approved. I'll post the > link once it does. With Rodeo, we found this stage took just under 1 hour, so it should be real soon now Kevin. Congratulations to you and the team. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac App Store
Thanks Chipp. This thread has got so long that I couldn't find the post. Sent from my iPad On 25/10/2010, at 12:16 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: > That someone is probably me. Here's my research. Both of these reputable > websites claim iPad apps sell for only about a buck more than iPhone apps. > Not the best of news for developers who make a living selling apps. > > http://www.tuaw.com/2010/05/04/average-ipad-app-price-is-1-more-than-iphone-apps/ > <http://www.tuaw.com/2010/05/04/average-ipad-app-price-is-1-more-than-iphone-apps/> > and > http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/05/ipad-pushing-average-apps-prices-higher-but-not-by-much.ars > > On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Sarah Reichelt > wrote: > >> Someone mentioned that the iOS App Store was not displaying the >> expected increase in price from iPhone to iPad apps. My searches seem >> to indicate that the average iPhone app costs $0.99 while the average >> iPad app costs $4.99 i.e. 5 times the price. > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac App Store
>>>> Is there anyone here with apps in the current iOS App Store who can >>>> answer that? >>> >>> As far as I can tell, no, they only offer tools/Web pages that display >>> statistical data of your sales. >> >> How would it be possible for a developer to know if someone who calls is >> actually eligible for technical support? > > I am quite a novice in the whole iApp arena, but barring any methods of > cracking I haven't heard about yet, apps are more or less tied to a device > -- you cannot arbitrarily move apps from one device to another, and you > cannot distribute apps outside the app store (aside from testing and limited > distribution apps). So "presumably", the someone wanting help legitimately > obtained your app. Not quite true Scott. App purchases are tied to an Apple ID which may have more than one device. I have apps on both my iPhone & iPad and I have only bought them once. If I buy on my iPhone, then try to buy again on my iPad, I get a message saying "You have already bought this app. Click here to download it again for free." (or something like that). So while the developer can be sure I bought the app, I can still use it on more than on device. With regards to the Mac App Store, I am a dedicated Mac person, but my kids use PCs for playing games. And where do my kids get their games? From Valve, via their Steam app store :-) This allows online purchases, updates are automatic, downloads are guaranteed virus-free. It's great. Of course there are other games developers out there who are not part of the Steam network, but as consumers, my children prefer the Steam store. They don't have to persuade me to drive to the local store, which most likely won't have the latest game. They get new releases at the same time as the rest of the world (not usual here in Australia), and the apps are much cheaper than they would be at the store. Most of my development is in-house stuff or contract work, neither of which would be suited to the App Store, but I release the occasional bit of shareware. As I am not interested in spending my time on elaborate protection schemes, I just rely on the small percentage of users who will actually pay, but with the Mac App store, even if I reduced the prices dramatically, I would still expect to make more. Someone mentioned that the iOS App Store was not displaying the expected increase in price from iPhone to iPad apps. My searches seem to indicate that the average iPhone app costs $0.99 while the average iPad app costs $4.99 i.e. 5 times the price. I would not be surprised if Mac software followed the same curve and went for about $25. The other iOS phenomenon I would expect to see on the Mac, is greater numbers of small, cheap, single-use apps. LiveCode is ideally suited to this market, provided we can get the native controls etc, that the App store will require. Finally (sorry for this rambling reply), I thing RunRev would be doing themselves a great disservice if they did not make sure the LiveCode itself was available through the Mac App Store. And with the new single bundle installation, I think they have taken a big step towards making that possible. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] First Mobile App Released
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: > Recently, Sarah Reichelt wrote: > >> Sadly, discussion of our project has been banned from this list. >> But for anyone interested, here is the iTunes link: >> <http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/rodeo-viewer-for-ipad/id394668730?mt=8> > > Sarah, you've got a captive audience of about 30 people over at the > revToMobile Google group -- I wish you'd come discuss Rodeo with us :-) Doh! I forgot all about the revMobile group. I'll be over there soon :-) Thanks, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] First Mobile App Released
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: > Thanks for the detailed description. As a reward, feel free to mention what > your app is called! Sadly, discussion of our project has been banned from this list. But for anyone interested, here is the iTunes link: <http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/rodeo-viewer-for-ipad/id394668730?mt=8> Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] First Mobile App Released
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 3:28 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: > Hello List:> > Just sharing a little excitement on the release of my first mobile app: > PLEXXR -- a stylish puzzle game for Apple's iPad. As mentioned previously, > this app was about 7 months in the making, and I got some helpful feedback > from folks here on the list -- thanks guys! > > Site with trailer (no gameplay vid yet but it's coming): > <http://www.plexxr.com> > > App Store link: > <http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/plexxr/id397208452?mt=8> > > For folks that don't have an iPad, there's also a desktop version available > on the PLEXXR site. As one of those who tested Scott's app (I was the annoying one whose iPad kept crashing), I would like to recommend this app to you all. If anything, the graphics are even better than we expect from Scott, and the music & sound effects are also great. The puzzles are varied and interesting and having to work out what each puzzle is about makes it even more fun. I too have recently had an app accepted in the App Store, and as revMobile (or whatever it is called now) is approaching that stage, I thought people might be interested in hearing some more details of the process. My app was an Xcode app, not a LiveCode app, but all lot of the administration will be the same. Firstly, as you all probably know by now, you have to pay your $99 to Apple to get a developer's license. Then you can create a developer certificate and a provisioning profile for your app. Use the wizard on Apple's Provisioning Portal page for this. You need to download the Apple developer tools, so that you get the simulators and the Xcode app which includes the Organizer for installing stuff on your iPad/iPhone. Now you can create your stack and run it in the Simulator. If you link in your Provisioning Profile, then you can run it on your iP* devices. If you want to send the app to anyone else for testing, you need to get the ID of their device (this appears in iTunes if you click the serial number of the device - then Command-C to copy it) and add them to your Provisioning Profile. Send then the app and the profile and they can drag both into iTunes and install it that way. Once the app is ready, you have to get a deployment certificate and a deployment provisioning profile. There are several steps to this, but the documentation on the Apple site is very good, so just follow along. Then re-build the app with this new profile. For me the freakiest thing was that this gives you the app to submit, but you cannot run this app on your device, so you are sending Apple an app that you haven't seen run. Anyway, once you submit, there is an immediate "binary check". I presume this is an automated test for non-approved APIs etc, but when using revMobile, that's all RunRev's responsibility and I am sure they wouldn't include any of those. Then it only took about 5 days for us to get approval. We got an email saying it was approved and would appear in the App Store within 24 hours, but actually, it was there in just under an hour. So it appears that Apple has really streamlined the process. Basic advice: read all the instructions in the Provisioning Portal, and follow all the steps. And since you can't test the final distribution app, make sure the app is thoroughly tested using your development profile. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Posting to a web page
Len you need to pair up the variable names with their values. Something like this: put "username=" & URLencode(tUserName) into myDataString put "&password=" & URLencode(tPassword) after myDataString etc, etc. Then you can use the post command as you have it below. Cheers, Sarah On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Len Morgan wrote: > I'm trying to create a "value added" front end to a web site. What I need > to do first is login to my account. I suspect the the entire site is > created in the same "style" so once I get past logging in, I should be able > to scrape the rest of the data I need to present in LiveCode locally. > > The login page is a simple html form with 4 "fields": > > auth_vars[username] > auth_vars[password] > auth_vars[submit] Value="Login" > auth_vars[action] Value="login" > > The form will be submitted to /login.php using POST > > My question is how can I create this login sequence and send it to login.php > followed by the variables? I know with the GET method you have > varname=value separated by commas. LiveCode will let me do something like: > > post myDataString to URL "http://mywebsite.com/login.php"; > > but I don't know how to format myDataString in order to have it accepted. > > Any help or pointers to web sites that might enlighten me are appreciated. > > len morgan > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- Cheers, Sarah Rodeo discussion: http://alltiera.com/discussion/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: on-rev
>> I haven't used it in forever because it sucks... > > ...agreed, but I need to debug a post command in a way that needs the > intervention of the IDE... Mark, have your irev script save the $_POST parameters to a log file on the server. It makes debugging non-interactive, but at least it gets you the info you need. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Still: Where do I put libUUID.rev and qrtReportsLIb.rev in LiveCode?
While not an ideal solution, for the quick fix, can you include these 2 stacks in the stackFiles of the mainStack that needs to access them? Then that stack would know where they were and you could "start using". Cheers, Sarah On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Alex Adams wrote: > Did that. Set it to the last rev folder where they have been working fine > all along. Still no go. > -- > Alex Adams ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Posting Data on Windows 7
Ray, what version of Rev are you using? In 4.5.0-dp-3 there were changes to libURL which caused massive problems of this type. Try using another version of Rev and seeing if that solves your issue. Cheers, Sarah On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 5:02 AM, Ray Horsley wrote: > Greetings, > > I'm using the LibURL post command setup the same way I always do but now on > Windows 7 and it seems to add a return character (char #13) and a line feed > (char # 10 I believe) at the end of the data for each file I write to our > remote server. The result for sending a 2018 byte file is then "2020 bytes > written". Any ideas? > > Ray Horsley > LinkIt! Software > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- Cheers, Sarah Rodeo discussion: http://alltiera.com/discussion/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rodeo, revServer etc.
Hi All, I would like to thank people for the many messages of support and encouragement I have received, both on and off-list. It seems to have been decided that my post was not worthy of banishment, so I'm still here, although after the recent threads, I will confine myself to lurking for a while, to give myself time to recover. All the best, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rodeo, revServer etc.
ferent route. But revServer is a wonderful prototyping tool, even if it is not the final production tool. As part of the Rodeo feature list, we announced a new way people would deploy their Rodeo web apps. This involved calling a CGI that converted their existing development app into a non-editable and public version. So as to be honest with our paying customers, Jerry mentioned that due to the acknowledged timeout issue with the On-Rev server, this might fail with a large app. This comment was taken - by a third-party - to the Rev list where it caused the current flame war. Part of the problem here is that as RunRev customers, we get very little communication from RunRev. We get announcements of great products that are not followed through: revServer is apparently still in alpha after more than a year, Rev 4.5.0-dp-3 was released in March and despite the basic flaw in libURL, has not been updated. I made it work using Trevor's fix (thanks Trevor), which would have taken the RunRev team about 30 seconds to apply, but they have not done so. I realise they were shaken by the revMobile fiasco - we all were. Remember that many of us paid a large sum of money for a product that will no longer do what we bought it for and a conference that has been cancelled. At least RunRev ended up with the money! But Apple can only be blamed for so long. At some stage Kevin and his group have to take responsibility. It is good to read Kevin's plans for better bug reporting, better communication, more products etc., but those of us who have been here for a while have heard all this before. Finally, a comment on this list itself. I know this is a long post, but it is my last one, so I have to get everything in. Some people on this list have a habit of shooting the messenger. Anyone who dares to suggest that there is anything less that perfect about RunRev is shouted down, and most of them just leave instead of being converted. The most noticeable exception to this was Bill Marriott. Bill was an extremely out-spoken member of the list who got very angry at the way bugs were being ignored. He got flamed on the list, but to Kevin's enormous credit, he hired Bill and put his anger and enthusiasm to work for RunRev. This worked extremely well and I am sure we all miss Bill. In fact I wonder how this situation would have been handled had Bill still been around. Since I anticipate my imminent removal from this list, anyone who would like to respond is invited to email me directly: sarah.reich...@gmail.com So long, and thanks for all the fish! Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quality Control Center - handling of bug reports
> There are about 10 or more (minor to critical) bugs associated with the
> group object, which have cost me plenty of time and a huge amount of
> frustation to get to the details of these bugs and eventually to find out
> workarounds if possible. These bugs seem to be totally outside the scope and
> interest of the RunRev team.
> My bug report 8275 of Sept. 16, 2009, "Groups: Bugs and features ("last
> group" broken)?", which listed 5 of these group bugs, is stiil shown as
> "unconfirned" as of today - nearly 11 months later!
>
> If they should indeed have looked at the report and cannot replicate the
> bugs, I would at least expect an organized attempt to communicate with the
> bug reporter, maybe asking him for more information or a sample stack
> etc.etc..
> As an active supporter and user of Revolution since its beginnings I am of
> course aware of the difficulties and the multitude of tasks the Rev team has
> to address with limited personal resources. But I think there is an urgent
> need to re-organize the handling of bug reports and the management of the
> so-called "Quality Control Center". To completely disregard valuable
> feedback from motivated users is not the way to keep up or build trust for
> Revolution and its developers.
I completely agree Wilhelm.
As I said in an email to this list about a month ago, we would all
much prefer to see our bugs listed as "Confirmed" even if there was no
immediate prospect of a fix. At least it would indicate that the bug
report had been looked at.
Kevin responded to my email at the time, and although I forget his
exact words, he did imply that they were aware that better
communication was needed. Hopefully this will new attitude will extend
to the list and to the bug reports.
Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: [OT-Rodeo] Still waiting for the aha moment
The CSS we are using is webkit specific, but that just dictates some of the visual effects. Functionally, all the Rodeo stuff, including the editing, will work on any HTML5 compatible browser. It just might look a bit weird. Cheers, Sarah Sent from my iPad On 22/07/2010, at 8:10 PM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: > > Sarah, I guess actually that you won't be limited to webkit based browsers, > as long as they fully support HTML5, is that not right? Its a question of > supporting an open standard. So the answer to the original question might > be, right now you need a webkit based browser for editing and app creation, > but in future, you'll be able to use any compliant browser, and one assumes > that will include (maybe it does even now) Firefox. > > Have you tried with Firefox? > -- > View this message in context: > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-Rodeo-Still-waiting-for-the-aha-moment-tp2297501p2298446.html > Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Mac vs Win partisanship is unnecessary
> Last night I sat in a restaurant with a man who runs a small electronics > factory here in Plovdiv; > at present all of his computers run on Windows. He wants to change over to > Linux because > various people have told him it will be cheaper. > > He uses extremely specialist software written for Windows to program his > electronic "thingies" > (that was where both my electronics and my Bulgarian failed me). He has > heard about WINE. > > I told him that the answer was multi-facetted and depended on all sorts of > variables which I was > completely unable to answer until I had tried runnung all these special > programs with WINE; seeing if > running under WINE they would connect with the thingies, and so on, and so > on . . . . > > And I told him that, ultimately the 'aggro' of such a change over might just > be more trouble than it is worth. > > He was shocked and surprised at what I told him as somebody told him that I > was a real Luddite > as far as Windows was concerned. > > What I told him, however anti-Windows I may be (quite a lot), was my honest, > informed opinion; > wihtout more that a modicum of my personal prejudices. Good story Richmond. Back in the early days of home computers, we had lots of alternatives: Sinclair, BBC, Atari, Commodore, Apple etc etc. I had a temporary job selling at a trade show in that era and my advice was the same as it is now: "If you have a piece of software that you need to run, then get the computer that runs that software, regardless of platform." People need to remember that computers are a tool, not a religion. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT-Rodeo] Still waiting for the aha moment
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > At some point I know you will provide a list of what syntax is allowed, and > update it as time goes on. Waiting with baited breath! Yes, we are assembling the documentation right now. There is already a language guide but it is not up-to-date, so I won't even bother to point you there yet. > (Really, I never understood that saying. The bait is for the fish! Why would > I be eating it??) >From the OS X Dictionary: USAGE The spelling : baited breath instead of bated breath is a common mistake that, in addition to perpetuating a cliché, evokes a distasteful image. Before using the expression bated breath, think of the verb : abate, as in : the winds abated, not fish bait. Cheers, Sarah Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT-Rodeo] Still waiting for the aha moment
> You can then connect to those web pages with any webkit based browser from > any OS. So its not really mac-centric, and not even Rev centric, if I have > understood it properly. Correct - Rodeo is web centric, but we based it's scripting style on Revolution scripting, so Rev people will find it easier to get started. They will also have the benefit of the Rev-Rodeo Transfer stack. > They will shortly introduce the ability to run those pages on your own web > server, again through a webkit based browser. You should also be able to > write web apps that run from your own device, again once they implement the > ability to run from any web server. > > Correct me if wrong on this very last point? You're right. > The hope and belief is that this means that you can write apps for the > iPhone and iPad. Because you are targeting abilities built into the > browser, and you do not need to go through Apple's app store to get them to > the public. Apple can no longer tell you and your buyers that swimsuit > photos are politically incorrect this year. Exactly. Steve Jobs has said on multiple occasions ever since the original iPhone was released, that web apps based on HTML/CSS & Javascript, are the way to put whatever apps you want on the iPhone/iPad without having to go through the app store. > Will it work, and is it interesting? Yes on the last count. Someone asks > to what extent this allows you to port all the functionality of a Rev app to > the web. This is something I am not clear about, and it would be nice to > know. It is letting you compose apps within the limits of the webkit > engine. It is also letting you translate the gui part of a Rev app into > standard web pages. But it does not seem to be porting the whole > application to a web site, not even a webkit one. Its doing part of that, > and delivering part of the functionality of the app. If you want the guts of > the thing, you write the rest of it in the Rodeo editor. Correct again - I think we need to hire Peter as our "Rodeo Explanation Officer" :-) At the moment, we have a very limited syntax available. It will expand but we want to keep it as simple as possible, so every new addition will be considered carefully. We do not plan to offer a complete Rev to Rodeo translator, as the Rev language is too vast and too variable. We are planning on extending the Transfer stack so that it creates Rodeo actions for your handlers and populates them with commented versions of your Rev scripts. This will just be an easier way to get started and to remind yourself of your script, but you will still have to re-write the scripts in Rodeo. > Is that pretty much right? Yes, very good Peter. Thanks for taking the trouble to lay all that out, especially the interesting info about the originals of WebKit. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Nicolas Cueto wrote: > Sarah, if you're still on the line for quick questions... > > Can/Do/Will Rodeo pages work with Rev 3rd-party apps? Specially > Malte's Animation Engine, or Damien's NativeGeometry. Still here... No. Rodeo creates web pages, not Revolution stacks. So tools built for use in stacks will not work in Rodeo. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: > Had lunch with Jerry today and he walked me through their progress. Pretty > impressive going. He showed me how simple it is to create an app which > launched any other apps on the iPad-- which IMO was pretty cool. I've got > all these damn iPad icons blasted over a dozen or so screens, so some sort > of app launcher might just do the trick. > > Anyway, things are progressing nicely. I'm not sure that we can achieve a full iPad/iPhone app launcher. What we can achieve is launching of any communications apps that have registered URLs. At the moment, we do Skype, which works on all supported platforms. We also plan to allow links to phone calls, text messages and the new FaceTime video calling. As more companies like Skype and Apple release publicly available URL commands, we can extend this list. Thanks for the kind words Chipp. Cheers, Sarah Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/limited-pre-release-offer ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-release conditions!
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Curry Kenworthy wrote: > > It's a late hour for questions. :-) > > But how about the iPhone? I understand focus is on the iPad right now. But > will it, or won't it, if that's possible to say? Not too late here in Australia Curry. Although there is only just over 1 hour left for the pre-release offer since that's going off Texan time. Yes, Rodeo will work on the iPhone. The iPhone uses a webkit browser, just like the iPad, so Rodeo web apps will work fine. At the moment, they don't fit on the screen properly, but that is a matter of setting up different display properties for each type of device. So the answer is yes, but not quite yet. Cheers, Sarah <http://rodeoapps.com/limited-pre-release-offer> ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:48 PM, stephen barncard wrote: > *Rodeo* is the price of about 4.5 high quality large PIZZAs at this moment. > > Folks should not gain the weight and do this instead. > > I just changed an image in an 'action' and it was an aha moment. It's a > game changer, just like the 'pad. I saw 6 or so iPads on each of my flights > to the south recently. Webkit will set the standard and Rodeo is there to > help. > > On 20 July 2010 19:11, Jerry Daniels wrote: > >> It's headed towards midnight, here--deep in the heart of Texas. >> > > And I imagine the temperature to be about 95 degrees! It's lunch time here and the pizza sounds good... What am I saying - no pizza - Rodeo! Seriously though, that's great to hear Stephen. We are trying really hard to create something that can cause the "aha" moment that most of us got in HyperCard. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote: > It's not written using Rev, but in XCode, it seems. It looks like someone > with good Objective-C and Cocoa skills wrote a lovely editor. I think I'm going to frame this email! Thanks for the compliment Jan. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard & New Question
Hi Tim, Sorry for not answering before - as you can imagine, Jerry & I have been flooded with emails so it is easy to miss one. I'm not very well informed about text encodings, but I know that web pages have an encoding stated in their header. Since Rodeo is producing web pages, I would assume that changing this encoding tag would allow you to use different encodings. At the moment, this is set to UTF-8, but we could make it user-selectable down the track. For data storage, at the moment, it is just single-byte text, not unicode at all. But I do plan to add support for HTML entities very soon, and we can consider how to handle unicode text then. Cheers, Sarah On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 3:29 AM, TIm Selander wrote: > Sorry to hijack this thread... sent a question via the rodeoapps web site, > but no answer yet. Hoping for an answer in time to decide whether to sign up > or not at the reduced price... > > Will Rodeo handle UTF-8? Other text encodings? I need to know for both the > pages/interface, as well as any local/remote data storage that you are > planning. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!
> But hey, we'll see. It will be most interesting. Meanwhile, one assumes > that it means that Rodeo apps will run in Chrome or Konqueror or Galeon on > Linux? Now that is interesting. Its just a pity one cannot write them in > the OS they will run on. You can, using a web-based editor. You just don't get the extra features of a Mac editor. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 2:41 AM, Robert Mann wrote: > > Hi folks, it seems that it is the last minute to get onboard Rodeo for a > pre-release ride... > Version 2 seems to be coming this week... > with data storage?? > > I have no connection with Rodeo.. > just sympathy to the team > and to you friendly reader, > in case you hesitate or forget about it.. ! Yes Robert, as discussed at the summit on the weekend, version 2.0 of Rodeo is now available to registered Rodeo users. It is a native Mac application - smaller and faster than Rodeo 1.3. The link and more info is on this page <http://rodeoapps.com/> - have a look, I think you will be surprised and impressed at the features and proposed timeline. For non-Rodeo users, the pre-release pricing expires at midnight CDT/US tonight - July 20th. <http://rodeoapps.com/limited-pre-release-offer> Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: XML one-liner (if possible)
>> After every call to a revXML function, you can check the result for >> "xmlerr" which indicates a problem. > > ...with certain exceptions. > > put revXMLNextSibling(tXMLID, tNode) into tNextNode > > will return empty if there's no next sibling. So *mostly* you need to > check for "xmlerr" to see if you're done, and *sometimes* you also > need to check for empty or get stuck in an endless loop. Sure, but I think the 3 xml functions I suggested all return xmlerr if there is a problem. So in this case, a check for xmlerr will be sufficient. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: XML one-liner (if possible)
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:19 AM, viktoras d. wrote:
> err., what's the simplest way of displaying all contents of an XML document
> in a rev field? e.g. getting a list of all elements with all their
> attributes and values. Is there a simple way to do this - a one liner
> probably ;-) ?
Not a one-liner, but try this:
put URL ("file:" & tFileName) into tData
put revCreateXMLTree(tData, false, true, false) into tDocID
put revXMLRootNode(tDocID) into tParentNode
put revXMLText(tDocID, tParentNode, true) into tXML
After every call to a revXML function, you can check the result for
"xmlerr" which indicates a problem.
Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: Timer Pause script
> After debug, still without see the solution, the time is paused but still > running... and when I resume after the pause get the whole time. > > --reset the startSeconds to the current seconds less the time already on the > timer. > put the seconds into tSeconds > subtract tElapsed from tSeconds > put tSeconds into startSeconds > > Any idea why? Imagine you start the timer at 3:00:00 After 10 seconds, the time is 3:00:10 and the timer is showing 10 seconds. Now you pause the timer. At 3:01:00 you restart the timer. The original start time is 3:00:00 so if you are still using the original start time to calculate the elapsed time, the timer will immediately show 60 seconds when you only want it to show 10 seconds. Effectively you want to set the start time to 3:00:50 (i.e the current time - the elapsed time) when you restart at 3:01:00 as that will make it show the correct elapsed time of 10 seconds. Cheers, Sarah Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Go to a web page automatically
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Tim Selander wrote: > Good morning! > > Thanks for the reply. Sorry for not being clear. By 'open' I mean I just > want to take the user to another page, as if they had clicked a link. > > I'm trying to write a simple form to get user input (based on Sarah's > revForm.irev script) and want to take them to a 'Thank you' page > automatically after they submit the info. I found that the easiest way was to show or hide info on the same page, depending on user input. But if you want to take them to a different page, you can redirect. Check out the script http://www.troz.net/onrev/samples/showscript.irev?showscript=desktop.irev Note that the redirect headers have to be "put" BEFORE anything else is written to the page. Cheers, Sarah Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Timer Pause script
The problem is that the global variable startSeconds keeps the same value so when you restart the timer after a pause, you need to reset the startSeconds to the current seconds less the time already on the timer. Cheers, Sarah Sent from my iPad On 10/07/2010, at 8:34 AM, JosepM wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm blocked :( with this... > I try to start and stop a timer but with a pause button to pause the time > and continue again once the pause button is pressed again. > > I have two buttons, button "b_timming" and button "b_pause" > Also some graphics to show the button icons and display. > The start and stop it's fine, but I don't see how pause and continue where > the time was stoped... > > Salut, > Josep > > Script for button "b_timming" > > Local tDuration, lTime > Local lStart > Global gPause,startSeconds > on mouseUp > > if lStart is 1 then > # Stop time > > set the visible of graphic "gr_play" to false > set the visible of group "gr_pause" to false > put false into gPause > set the icon of button "b_timming" to 1023 > set the hiliteicon of button "b_timming" to 1024 > > put 0 into lStart > put lTime into fld "countdown" > answer lTime > else > # Start time > > set the visible of graphic "gr_play" to true > > set the icon of button "b_timming" to 1012 > set the hiliteicon of button "b_timming" to 1013 > > put 1 into lStart > put the seconds into startSeconds > > updateProgress > end if > end mouseUp > > > on updateProgress > if lStart is 1 then > if gPause is false then > set the visible of group "gr_pause" to false > > put (the seconds - startSeconds) into tElapsed > > put padNum(tElapsed div (60*60)) into tHours > put padNum(tElapsed div 60) into tMins > put padNum(tElapsed mod 60) into tSecs > > put tHours & ":" & tMins & ":" & tSecs into fld "countdown" > put tHours & ":" & tMins & ":" & tSecs into lTime > put 0 into tElapsed2 > send updateProgress to me in 5 ticks > else > set the visible of group "gr_pause" to true > end if > end if > end updateProgress > > # this function just makes the time units look pretty by inserting a zero > before single digits > function padNum pNum > if the length of pNum = 1 then >return "0" & pNum > else >return pNum > end if > end padNum > > Script for button "b_pause" > > Global gPause,startSeconds > > on mouseUp > if gPause is true then > put false into gPause > send "updateProgress" to button "b_timming" in 5 ticks > else > put true into gPause > put the seconds into startSeconds > end if > > end mouseUp > -- > View this message in context: > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Timer-Pause-script-tp2284161p2284161.html > Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Scripting what should be a simple loop...
Setting variables whose names are construct dynamically requires using "do". So this should work: put "Field" & i into tFieldName put "put fld tFieldName of grp AllFields into tVar" & i into tCommand do tCommand Probably an easier solution is to use an array: put fld "Field" & i of grp "AllFields" into tVar[i] Cheers, Sarah Sent from my iPad On 10/07/2010, at 9:23 AM, "David C." wrote: > Good grief! Will someone be so kind as to show me the proper way to > format my script... > > Let's say I have the following > > 1 group named "AllFields" containing: > 10 text fields, named Field1...Field10 > 10 temporary variables named tVar1...tVar10 > > All I want to do, using a loop, is to put the user supplied data > contained in each field into the corresponding, like-named variable. I > thought I could do something easy like this > > repeat for i = 1 to 10 > put fld "Field" & i of grp "AllFields" into tVar & i > end repeat > > I know that I've done this before, but so far I've yet to find the > right format that will not cause an error when compiling the script > -and- would greatly appreciate it if some kind soul would rescue me > from this madness. > > FWIW, I recently had another fifty-something birthday, so I'm blaming it > all on an increasing case of dementia. As in: > > "Dementia (meaning "deprived of mind") is a serious loss of cognitive > ability in a previously unimpaired person, beyond what might be > expected from normal ..." > > > Best regards, > David C. > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problem saving files
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 3:22 PM, David C. wrote:
> I've run into a bit of a head scratching problem with saving files
> that maybe someone can help me sort out.
> My code:
>
> on SaveTheFile
> ask file "Save project as:" with filter "MYFL file,*.myfl"
> if it <> "" then
> put it into tfile
> put fld "save list" into tFiletoSave
> put tFileToSave into url ("file:" & tfile & ".myfl")
> else
> exit to top
> end if
> end SaveTheFile
>
> The file saves exactly as expected *if* there isn't a file with the same
> name.
> Example from code above, the filename written would be: myfilename.myfl
>
> If there is a file with the same name, it correctly asks if I want to
> replace it, but when I click yes, instead of overwriting the file
> properly, it still creates a new file, but with the extension doubled
> up, as in: myfilename.myfl.myfl
>
> The other ways I've tried to code it, it still does the "do you want
> to replace" routine and will overwrite the file without doubling up on
> the extension, *but* it won't automatically add the proper extension
> to a new file.
I have never used filter with the ask command, but here is what I
think is happening:
When you ask for a file, if a new file name is types in, you get just
the name with no extension.
If you select an existing file, then you get the filename PLUS it's extension.
Your script then adds the extension regardless, so extensions will accumulate.
You need to add a check to see if the file extension is already there,
and only append it to the file name if it is missing.
Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: RevCloud (was Re: Line Numbers in Text Editor)
> RevCloud makes it easier to support multi-developer teams by providing a > collection of tools tailored specifically for the sort of work we do in Rev. > > Even better, the tools in RevCloud are just the icing. Beneath them is a > tasty layer cake of client and server libraries from which you can build all > sorts of other tools to support your team. > > I could write more about this, and will soon, but to keep this list on topic > I'll post those details in RevNet. This sounds really interesting Richard, and very much ON topic in my opinion. Please keep us in the loop. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Access Script Local Value?
> Is it possible for the script of one object to set/get a script local > variable value of another object? If yes, how? Not directly, as far as I know. You have to write getter & setter routines in the object containing the script local: local sLocalVar command setLocalVar pNewValue put pNewValue into sLocalVar end setLocalVar function getLocalVar return sLocalVar end getLocalVar Cheers, Sarah Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Menu Checkmarks
put "!c" before line 10 of button "Edit" Then you need to move it if the item is un-checked. I usually grab the text of the button, replace "!c" with empty, apply any required check marks, the put the variable back into the menu button. Cheers, Sarah On Sunday, June 27, 2010, Justin Sloan wrote: > I am trying to check and uncheck a menu item, specifically a "Word Wrap" menu > option. I tried several things but can't seem to get it to work. > > set the hilite of menuItem 10 of menu "Edit" of group "MenuBar" to false > > set the checkmark of menuItem 10 of menu "Edit" of group "MenuBar" to false > > set the value of menuItem 10 of menu "Edit" of group "MenuBar" to "!nWord > Wrap" > > set the label of menuItem 10 of menu "Edit" of group "MenuBar" to "!nWord > Wrap" > > Any thoughts?___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- Cheers, Sarah Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sarah Reichelt's XML sample stack
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Simon Lord wrote: > Is Sarah still around? I searched the archives for an XML sample > stack to get my feet wet but her sample seems to be missing from her > site (I can't find it to save my life). Still here :-) My XML stack was online but had got lost from the stacks list, so was effectively invisible. It's listed now but here is a direct link <http://www.troz.net/rev/stacks/XMLdemo1.rev> -- Cheers, Sarah Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: File browser extension
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Simon Lord wrote: > I'm wondering out loud if someone has written a file system browser > extension. I'm not in the mood to write one myself (remembering my > prior experience with this). > > Just looking for something I can drop into my stack that allows the > end user to browse their system looking for images and pass me the > result. > > If it's brain dead easy in RunRev then I'll proudly wear egg on my > face (but please point to samples). Search the list archives for "file walker" or "directory walker" to get a recursive function that will list all files & folder & files inside folders etc etc. For display, you might like to check out the Data Tree <http://www.runrev.com/products/related-software/data-tree/>. Cheers, Sarah Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Long URL in a field
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 6:33 AM, Emmett Gray wrote: > In the HC version of a stack I've converted, I have a "notes" text field. > The field has a vertical scroll bar, but not a horizontal one (and that's > what I want). In HC, a long URL will wrap so you can see the whole thing on > multiple lines. In Rev, it doesn't wrap so you can't see it all (although > you can still select it by dragging to the right). Can this behavior be > changed to be like in HC (i.e. force a line with no spaces to wrap)? No, wrapping on Rev only works with white space. So I wrote a routine to space out a long URL to fit a specific field: command formatFolderPath pFieldName repeat while the formattedWidth of fld pFieldName >= the width of fld pFieldName -- find the last slash & replace with slash & cr put the text of fld pFieldName into tFolder repeat with x = the number of chars in tFolder down to 1 if char x of tFolder = slash and char x+1 of tFolder <> cr then put cr after char x of tFolder put tFolder into fld pFieldName exit repeat end if end repeat end repeat end formatFolderPath Then when using the file path, you just need to make sure you replace cr with empty and you get back to the original. There are obvious improvements that could be made, but for a quick fix, it works OK. -- Cheers, Sarah Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DiagramCreator in beta.
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: > Hey all. > > Been busy creating a fun tool for creating diagrams using plain english > sentences. The free beta version is available for both Mac and PC. > > http://blog.chipp.com Chipp, this is awesome! Thanks for sharing it. -- Cheers, Sarah Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?
> The question is how do you get the name of the file that is opened from a
> script to save in a variable. This is what I been unable to do.
How do you open the file? Do you get the user to select a file using
the answer file dialog?
If so, try something like this:
global gOpenDataFile
answer file "Select a file to open:"
if it is empty then exit to top
put it into gOpenDataFile
put URL ("file:" & gOpenDataFile) into tFileData
-- process the file data as usual
Now the global variable gOpenDataFile contains the full path to the
data file that was opened.
You can use this later when asking to save:
global gOpenDataFile
ask file "Save data file?" with gOpenDataFile
And it will offer the same folder and file name as before.
Note that if you select the same file name, the OS will give you a
file exists warning, whereas if you just save directly using the file
name, then it won't.
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Sarah
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Re: How do you get the name of an open saved file in memory using message box?
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 5:16 AM, charles61 wrote: > > I have going through various scripts to get the name of a text file (not > stack) that is open in my app using the message box. Does anyone know how to > do this? Charles, at some stage in your scripts, the file was opened. At that point, your script had to know the file name. You will have to store that file name in the custom property, hidden field, script local or global variable at that time. Then you can use that file name at any time to re-save to the original file. Cheers, Sarah Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Save Dialog showing current name of file open
Try something like this:
put the label of this stack into tSuggestedFileName
put ".txt" after tSuggestedFileName
ask file "Save data as:" with tSuggestedFileName
put it into tSaveFileName
if tSaveFileName is empty then
exit to top
end if
put tDataToSave into URL ("file:" & tSaveFileName)
if the result is not empty then
answer error "There was a problem saving your data: " & the result
end if
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On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 10:54 PM, charles61 wrote:
>
> I have been able to code the standard save dialog boxes that are in the Rev
> Manual for my project. But I have not been able to code a save dialog box
> that shows the name of a current window open where the user is asked if you
> want to save it with that name. All that I can get is the save dialog with
> Save As: untitled.txt. I looked through the Use/Rev archives and could not
> find any mention of creating such a dialog!
>
> Since my app only permits one document open at a time, a Save Dialog giving
> the name of the current document would be very appropriate as opposed to the
> Standard Dialog of "Don't Save", "Cancel" and "Save". I greatly appreciate
> if someone could show me how to create such a dialog!
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Re: Scanning barcodes
> I wonder if anyone has got recommendations for a barcode scanner device that > works with rev. > Ideally it would read both traditional barcodes and those newer 2d codes and > work with Win PCs and Macs (Linux a plus). > Is anyone doing this already and can recommend a device and maybe some test > code to peek at? I haven't done 2D barcodes, but traditional ones are easy. Just make sure the scanner can operate in keyboard-wedge mode and it will act like a keyboard. You will need to test it to see what terminating character it sends and then check for that and when it arrives, operate on the complete code. I have a barcode reader test stack on my web site <http://www.troz.net/rev/stacks/BarcodeTester.rev>. as well as a stack to generate Code 128 barcodes <http://www.troz.net/rev/stacks/Barcodes.rev>, which needs a Code128 font to display them correctly. -- Cheers, Sarah Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: runrev community : how many licenses? How many users? How many developpers?
That seems very accurate Andre. It put me about 1300 km away from home! That's about 800 miles for the imperialists among us :-) Cheers, Sarah Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 3:09 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: > Richard, > > That link put me more than 300 KM away from where I really am... I am in the > City of Niterói in the State of Rio de Janeiro... it put me in São Paulo > state in the city of São Paulo... tricky ips... > > On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Richard Gaskin > wrote: > >> Almost as accurate as Google (maybe more so ), with nothing more than >> your IP address: >> >> <http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm> ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Detect background application...
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Simon Lord wrote: > Is there a way to have a stack know if it's not *focused*? Can this > also be done if the stack is not the foreground application? On a Mac, you can do this using AppleScript. Here are my handlers for this: function isAppAtFront pAppName if isAppRunning(pAppName) = false then return false put " tell application " & quote & "System Events" & quote & cr & \ "get the frontmost of application process" & quote & pAppName & quote & cr & \ "end tell" into tScript do tScript as AppleScript return the result end isAppAtFront function isAppRunning pAppName put "tell application " & quote & "System Events" & quote & cr into tScript put "return (exists application process " & quote & pAppname & quote & ")" & cr after tScript put "end tell" after tScript do tScript as AppleScript return the result end isAppRunning -- Cheers, Sarah Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: WWDC Keynote: HTML5 wide open for On-Rev & revServer
>> We always had cookies which could store small snippets of data locally. >> Now with HTML5, we also have session storage variables (temporary), >> local storage variables (permanent) and even SQLite databases. >> >> Are you suggesting then, that if I use HTML5 (rodeo) to dynamically create > several pages of content - whilst online, and those pages were to say > contain a form that interacted with SQLite, that whilst offline I might be > able to dynamically interact with SQLite, ie make entries into a field that > searches the SQLite db and have results dynamically presented to me - > although the base page template wouldn't change? > > I currently have a postgreSQL db I can access from On-Rev, which is great as > long as I can connect. Once I loose connection, I can no longer do searches. > It would be great to be able to push the db data into SQLite on the iPhone, > be able to continually query it no matter where I am, then purge the data > when finished. > > Does that sound doable with HTML5 + On-Rev + SQLite + iPhone? Yes it does. The SQLite database is stored on your device and should be accessible any time. You may need to do something with caches & manifests so the page will operate without a connection, but it is certainly doable. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: WWDC Keynote: HTML5 wide open for On-Rev & revServer
> I also notice on the Safari 5 'What's New' page that they list 'HTML5 > offline storage' as a feature that is supported. Anyone have any experience > with this. How much can you actually do 'offline'? Lots :-) We always had cookies which could store small snippets of data locally. Now with HTML5, we also have session storage variables (temporary), local storage variables (permanent) and even SQLite databases. Cheers, Sarah Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Silly Problem
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 3:23 PM, David C. wrote: > Hey folks, > I know that I can center my application stack like this: > > set the loc of me to the screenLoc > > ...but what's the proper way of centering a sub stack (about box, > preference stack, etc) to the position of my main stack, wherever it > may be on the screen? I'm pretty sure I've been down this path before > but the answer, however simple it may be, somehow eludes me. set the loc of me to the loc of stack "Main" Cheers, Sarah Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Rodeo IDE preview video
Don't worry about us. Jacque & I have discussed this off-list and we're still friends :-) Cheers, Sarah On Friday, June 4, 2010, Michael Kann wrote: > Sarah vs. Jacque: > > Both of you make our lives so much easier. Literally every time I use RunRev > I use something I learned from one of you. So it pains me to have to side > with Sarah on this one. > > I understand Jacque's wish to segregate the third party add-ons. I don't use > any myself, although I like to find out what they are and how people are > getting along with them. I really don't want to check on several websites to > explore the possibilities. As long as the subject line warns us of the > content we can choose what we want. Jack and Sarah get free advertizing, but > everyone with a product to sell here seems to do the same thing -- it's just > that they aren't so agressive. > > Jacque -- if you want to ban all posts pertaining to Steve Jobs' business > mojo I'm behind you 100 percent. > > Mike > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 5/29/10, Sarah Reichelt wrote: > >> From: Sarah Reichelt >> Subject: Re: [ANN] Rodeo IDE preview video >> To: "How to use Revolution" >> Date: Saturday, May 29, 2010, 12:43 AM >> On 29/05/2010, at 1:25 PM, "J. >> Landman Gay" >> wrote: >> >> > Sarah Reichelt wrote: >> >> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Jerry Daniels >> >> wrote: >> >>> We have posted a video of the Rodeo >> development environment in action! Sarah Reichelt >> (co-creator of Rodeo) joins me in the video all the way from >> Queensland, Australia. >> >>> >> >>> This is a pretty big step for our little team. >> Here's the link: >> >>> >> >>> http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-headed-for-pre-release-0 >> >> Jerry is away for a few days, but if anyone has >> any questions, post >> >> them here or on the Rodeo site and I will do my >> best to answer. >> > >> > Since it's a third party product, I think the rodeo >> site would be more appropriate. >> > >> >> While I agree that the Rodeo site is a better location for >> such questions, I feel that discussion of an On-Rev based >> service has it's place here, and is vastly more on-topic >> than many other recent threads. >> >> Cheers, >> Sarah >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage >> your subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> > > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: No callback from libURLDownloadToFile?
beep is a command, not a message handler. Try making your own handler that beeps and I think it will work. Cheers, Sarah On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 8:13 PM, Terry Vogelaar wrote: > Hi all, > > libURLDownloadToFile seems to ignore the callback message after finishing. I > didn't hear a beep when putting this in the message box: > libURLDownloadToFile "http://www.houdinis.net/TributePeggyLee.jpg";, > "~/Desktop/9823.jpg", "beep" > > What did I do wrong? The file got downloaded, but the callback message > wasn't sent. Bug maybe? > > Terry > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Download queue with libURL
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Terry Vogelaar wrote: > I can't figure out what is wrong with this script: > > on wachtrij > global kjoejoe > if line 1 of kjoejoe <> "" then > put line 1 of kjoejoe && the number of lines of kjoejoe > set the itemdel to tab > switch item 1 of line 1 of kjoejoe > case "up" > libURLftpUploadFile item 2 of line 1 of kjoejoe, item 3 of line 1 > of kjoejoe, "wachtrij" > break > case "down" > libURLDownloadToFile item 2 of line 1 of kjoejoe, item 3 of line > 1 of kjoejoe, "wachtrij" > end switch > delete line 1 of kjoejoe > end if > end wachtrij I think the problem is that when you issue a call to libURLftpUploadFile or libURLDownloadToFile with a callback, the processing doesn't stop & wait. So I think all the uploads & downloads are trying to start at the same time, so the later ones are failing. I usually have 2 routines called something like startTransfer and transferComplete. startTransfer takes the first line in the queue and starts processing it, with transferComplete as the callback. transferComplete checks the result and it is all worked OK, it deletes the first line of the queue and then calls startTransfer again if the queue is not empty. Also check out libURLSetStatusCallback and libURLSetLogField which are both really useful for debugging and keeping people informed as to the progress or the file transfers. HTH, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: send problem
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Nicolas Cueto wrote: > Hello, > > In my stack's opencard handler the last line is "send mouseUp to field > x" . There's other things happening in the handler before then, too. > > Problem is, after the stack opens, the message box appears, displays > the word "exit", and field x's mouseUp doesn't run. But if I click on > field x, then the mouseUp handler works. I seem to remember having problems like this in the past. The workaround is not to use a system event as the message you are sending. Change your field script so it has a separate handler. e.g. on mouseUp doMouseUpStuff end mouseUp command doMouseUpStuff -- put the script in here end doMouseUpStuff Then in your openCard handler, send "doMouseUpStuff" to the field instead of mouseUp. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Launch an app on a remote server
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Ray Horsley wrote: > Greetings, > > Anybody know how to do this? I think we need more information here What OS is running on the server and on your local computer? What sort of app do you need to start: a headless CGI type app, or a full application. I have used AppleScript on a Mac to operate on an AppleScript I installed on a networked Mac to stop & start a particular application. If that sounded useful, I could probably dig up the scripts, although it was a long time ago. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revServer ?
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Kee Nethery wrote: > Took the survey and saw mention of revServer. Not something I am familiar > with. When I go to the RunRev web site and search for revServer it appears > there are tutorials but no product information. None of the web site menus > list revServer as a product. > > Is revServer an unreleased product? Or is it functionality in the enterprise > edition that I can have IT install on some of our production servers? > > Are there docs on how to use it? Lynn's question asking for a CGI version > said that it is an Apache module which is exactly what I want. > > Pointers to docs and downloads would be most welcome. At the moment only available through a subscription to On-Rev. Docs are limited, though you get a read me if you sign up. Basically it's like PHP as it provides server-side scripting. There are a couple of lessons on revServer at the RunRev lessons site. I have some examples at the On-Rev section of my site: <http://www.troz.net/onrev/> Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: inconsistent field appearance
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Nicolas Cueto wrote: >> Hi Nicolas - can you provide a screengrab of how the problem manifests > > Here are the screengrabs Terry suggested I post: > > Vista view 1 -- http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxzIo9J > Vista view 2 -- http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxzIqES > > XP view 1 -- http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxzIt90 > XP view 2 -- http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxzIlFA > > The first two (Vista) are what I'm expecting. I.e., the minuscules are > between the guide lines. > > The second two (XP) show the problem. I.e., the letters have become > larger and so go over the guide lines. The XP images seem more jagged than the Vista ones. I wonder are the monitors set to different DPI? Not that this should make any difference to the overall effect. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Create mySQL database structure from Rev
Ahh, in that case, I don't know, unless you can run a script on the server to run the server's install of mysqldump. Sarah On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:36 AM, JosepM wrote: > > Hi Sarah, > > But my mySQL is remote and I don't have installed a local mySQL.. > > > Salut, > Josep M. > > El 01/06/2010, a las 1:34, Sarah Reichelt-2 [via Runtime Revolution] > escribió: > >> > I try this but no result. >> > >> > mysqldump --opt myDB > backupDB.sql >> >> I have used a shell call to the mysqldump command and that worked >> fine. >> >> Cheers, >> Sarah >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> [hidden email] >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> >> >> View message @ >> http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Create-mySQL-database-structure-from-Rev-tp2237715p2237903.html >> To unsubscribe from Re: Create mySQL database structure from Rev, >> click here. >> > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Create-mySQL-database-structure-from-Rev-tp2237715p2237904.html > Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Create mySQL database structure from Rev
> I try this but no result. > > mysqldump --opt myDB > backupDB.sql I have used a shell call to the mysqldump command and that worked fine. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Writing to the resource fork
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 4:01 PM, stephen barncard wrote: > Mark - try my modified version of Troz's stack ( I hope it's ok, Sarah ) My pleasure :-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Behavior changing layer
> But, now the behavior script no longer works. It dies when trying to set the > layer of the button clicked. I assume this is because the button is in a > group and I can only change the group's layer. But, is there a way for me to > change the layer of the button within the group? You can override this by setting the relayerGroupedControls to true but just be careful them that you don't layer the objects right out of the group. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Rodeo IDE preview video
On 29/05/2010, at 1:25 PM, "J. Landman Gay" wrote: > Sarah Reichelt wrote: >> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote: >>> We have posted a video of the Rodeo development environment in action! >>> Sarah Reichelt (co-creator of Rodeo) joins me in the video all the way from >>> Queensland, Australia. >>> >>> This is a pretty big step for our little team. Here's the link: >>> >>> http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-headed-for-pre-release-0 >> Jerry is away for a few days, but if anyone has any questions, post >> them here or on the Rodeo site and I will do my best to answer. > > Since it's a third party product, I think the rodeo site would be more > appropriate. > While I agree that the Rodeo site is a better location for such questions, I feel that discussion of an On-Rev based service has it's place here, and is vastly more on-topic than many other recent threads. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Rodeo IDE preview video
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote: > We have posted a video of the Rodeo development environment in action! Sarah > Reichelt (co-creator of Rodeo) joins me in the video all the way from > Queensland, Australia. > > This is a pretty big step for our little team. Here's the link: > > http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-headed-for-pre-release-0 Jerry is away for a few days, but if anyone has any questions, post them here or on the Rodeo site and I will do my best to answer. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Script Reporter v1.1 crashes
I don't remember this script, but I suggest adding a check for tScript being empty. repeat while the number of words in line -1 of tScript = 0 delete last line of tScript if tScript is empty then exit repeat end repeat That might fix it. Cheers, Sarah On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 9:10 AM, JosepM wrote: > > Hi, > > The same for me, seems that enter into infite loop here: > > -- Sarah: remove any blank lines at the end & make sure there are enough > to space entries > repeat while the number of words in line -1 of tScript = 0 > delete last line of tScript > end repeat > > > Any idea? > > Salut, > Josep > -- > View this message in context: > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Script-Reporter-v1-1-crashes-tp2228724p2229332.html > Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Coming unstuck with standalones: a real head CASE
> In the stack, when the group "CONZ" is not visible the latter half of > the CASE statement 'fires', > > In a standalone, when the "CONZ" is not visible the latter half of > the CASE statement DOESN'T WORK. No wonderful ideas, but are you sure the group "CONZ" is really invisible, or is it inside another group that is invisible? That's a trap that has caught me before, although I would expect it to behave the same in the IDE as in a standalone. Another possibility: could there be two groups with the same name? Maybe they are re-ordered in the standalone, so the script is looking at the wrong one. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Apad - The Andriod iPad
> And ... No promise that next version of Android OS will work on this device. > So you will be happy to trash it. > > IMO this is the most weak place of Android ... > > They go by MS way -- any hardware, open devices ... As result incredible > zoo. Tons of drivers ... Overloaded systems ... Yes, I agree with you there Ruslan. Except that I think Android is going to become the Linux of mobile devices, rather than the Microsoft. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to "Dial" Using Rev ?
> The equivalent on a Mac would be identical, except instead of "com3" you'd > want to use "modem" as the port specifier. Both the PC "com3" port and the > Mac "modem" port are serial ports. Rev can write to those just fine, but the > problem you will find on your iMac is that it won't have any serial ports; > Macs haven't supported those for some years, nor do they ship any longer > with internal modems. You can buy USB modems, but unfortunately Rev can't > read or write to USB ports. > > So if you have an older Mac that has a real serial modem port, you can dial > with the above script by substituting "modem" for the port. But on your > iMac, no go. It depends how the USB modem is recognised by the system. If you have one, check "the driverNames". If the list includes something link "cu.modem.usb", then you can use that as the driver name and open a port to that device as described above. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Location of stack
> Alternatively, is there a way to know in advance how much to twiddle the > vertical location by? It's 12 in my system, and I assume that's half the > height of the non-existent menu bar, but I expect that varies depending upon > the screen resolution or something-or-other, just as it would under Windows. > There really ought to be a clean way to get a program to remember its window > location without momentarily appearing at the wrong location whenever it's > opened. Yes, once the menu bar is visible, check the height of the stack and the height of the card. I can't recall exactly now, but they are either 24 or 26 pixels different, so if you are using the loc, then you need to allow for half of that. If your routine checks these 2 heights, if they are the same, then the menubar has not yet been drawn and the fudge factor needs to be applied, but the fudge is consistent. > It surprises me that the menu causes problems on the Mac (including all the > weirdness about menu items being moved around) that don't occur on Windows, > given that Rev is descended from Hypercard, a Mac program. Descended fro Mac OS < 10 via Unix. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Location of stack
On 16/05/2010, at 4:34 PM, "Paul D. DeRocco" wrote: >> From: Sarah Reichelt >> >> I'm guessing your stack has a menu. On Mac stacks, Rev does some funny >> business to hide the menu buttons off the top of the stacks window and >> create a real Mac menu. But this doesn't happen immediately. >> >> If you set the loc in a preOpenStack or startup handler, the menu bar >> will not have been hidden yet and the stack will effectively be >> taller. If you set the loc in an openStack handler, then the menu will >> have been hidden and the height of the stack the same as it was when >> you stored the loc, so it will work as expected. >> >> One workaround is to check if there is a menubar and, if so, check if >> there is a difference in height between the stack and the card. If >> they are the same, then the menu has not yet drawn and you need to >> compensate for this manually. > > Thanks, Sarah. If I do it in openStack instead of preOpenStack, will it > still position the window before it's first displayed? No, in that case, it should work fine, except that your users will see the window flash up and then move. > A compromise might be to set the loc in both handlers. Then it will appear almost in the right place and then shuffle a little bit. Cheers, Sarah___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revigniter - Model-View-Controller in Rev terms?
I haven't tried revIgniter yet, although I intend to. But my grasp of MVC comes from Objective-C and k assume it is much the same regardless of language. View: as out say, this is what the use sees - the interface. Model: this is the data structure and the data itself. Controller: the bit in between that reacts to user input or events and gets data from the model and presents it to the view, altering it if required. So the Controller is where the scripts go. Hopefully someone with a better grasp of these concepts than me, will be able to step in here if I have got it wrong. Cheers, Sarah On Sunday, May 16, 2010, Ian Wood wrote: > I'm investigating Ralf's revIgniter framework (fantastic work, by the way), > and start running into my 'narrow' experience of programming... > > Model-View-Controller is a programming approach that is new to me. Separating > presentation & data (as in most CMS-driven websites) is another matter. > > A bit of help from Google & Wikipedia & I *think* I've got an idea how it > works, but would like some reassurance/pointers from the list in translating > concepts into what I know (Rev). > > > MVC in Rev terms would be (roughly): > > View is a Stack visible to the user (or audio etc.). Everything is presented > through this to the user. > > Controller takes input from the user (mouse-clicks, typing, keystrokes etc.) > and does the major processing? e.g. Rev handlers that handle the bulk of the > logic in an app? > > Model would then be equivalent to all the 'utility' handlers and libraries? > > > I'm aware that there may not be a one-to-one equivalency here, but is this > along the right lines? > > Thanks, > > Ian > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Location of stack
I'm guessing your stack has a menu. On Mac stacks, Rev does some funny business to hide the menu buttons off the top of the stacks window and create a real Mac menu. But this doesn't happen immediately. If you set the loc in a preOpenStack or startup handler, the menu bar will not have been hidden yet and the stack will effectively be taller. If you set the loc in an openStack handler, then the menu will have been hidden and the height of the stack the same as it was when you stored the loc, so it will work as expected. One workaround is to check if there is a menubar and, if so, check if there is a difference in height between the stack and the card. If they are the same, then the menu has not yet drawn and you need to compensate for this manually. Cheers. Sarah On Sunday, May 16, 2010, Paul D. DeRocco wrote: > In my program, I write the location of my stack (among other things) to a > text file on exit, and then read it and set the location on startup. This > works correctly on Windows, but on the Mac, the window moves up by 12 pixels > every time. This happens both when I run the .rev file or when I run my > standalone. I use 'the location of stack "main"' to get and set the > location. I'm using Rev 3.5. Is this a known bug? > > -- > > Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco > Paul mailto:pdero...@ix.netcom.com > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stuck with Revlets :-(
>> I know, but I copied the code from the variant with "file:" in from of it... >> It won't give a problem in a local app, but sadly enough with or without >> doesn't give a result when using it in a revlet :-( > > When I run the following from Rev's message box I get XML, so the file is > there, and accessing it from Rev works: > answer url > "http://www.publishingtools4u.com/placemats4free/templates/templates.xml"; > > My understanding is you only need to use the "file:" and "binfile:" types > when accessing local files. Maybe there's different syntax for file access > in a RevLet. For sure there's a difference between net access and local > file access. Perhaps Jacque G or Sarah R knows. They're knowledgeable > dudes. Over to Jacque. I'm only a dud on this one. All the variants I try work fine in Rev, but not in a revlet. I can only get local files to load, not remote ones. Sorry, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stuck with Revlets :-(
I missed your original query Mike but I think Ton is right and it is a file path issue. I haven't done a lot with rev lets, but I think they require a I'll file path. E.g. set the filename of img 1 to "http://mywebsite/folder/image.png"; Cheers, Sarah On Thursday, May 13, 2010, Michael Kann wrote: > Ton, > > At first glance I would think it is some path to a file that isn't working > correctly when you are put your revlet on the remote server. > > Mike > > > > --- On Wed, 5/12/10, tkuyp...@telenet.be wrote: > >> From: tkuyp...@telenet.be >> Subject: Stuck with Revlets :-( >> To: "Revolution (use-revolution)" >> Date: Wednesday, May 12, 2010, 11:28 AM >> I'm probably the last one in the >> Revolution community, owning an Enterprise license, but only >> today started exploring the "Build for Web" feature... And >> after a day of testing and struggling I'm stuck :-( >> >> I think I'm missing a few things, so maybe someone can help >> me out. >> >> On my webserver I've created a folder structure, containing >> a bunch of folders, each containing subfolders and in the >> last subfolder a bunch of jpg files. >> A local application creates these jpg files, the correct >> folders and an XML file describing everything. >> >> I've created a stack that reads in the xml file, to fill >> the first field, called "Categories". >> Clicking on a category in this field will read the XML >> again and find the subcategories, which are basically the >> jpg files in the folder. >> >> Doing this locally, it works fine, but from within the >> Revlet the first field doesn't even get filled, so it >> doesn't read the XML file... >> >> What am I doing wrong? I don't want to use PHP, .NET or any >> other coding, because this project is very suited to be >> handled completely inside Revolution, but then at least I >> need to be able to load data from the server... >> >> Is it the XML library that doesn't work in Revlets? >> >> I'm using version RR 4.5.0-dp3 and am getting quite >> frustrated :-( >> A "Do's and Don'ts when creating Revlets" or an updated >> manual would be nice, but because of the lack of this I have >> to fall back on you guys... >> >> Hope someone can help me. >> >> >> Met vriendelijke groeten, >> Warm Regards, >> >> Publishingtools 4 U >> >> Ton Kuypers >> +32 (0) 477 739 530 >> >> Aardbemden 11 • B-2400 • Mol • Belgium >> www.publishingtools4u.com >> >> >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage >> your subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> > > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The topic is the Object Library
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Cal Horner wrote: > In all the time I have been using runrev I have yet to see any postings on > this forum about someone using the "Object Library". > > While working on a widget today I found myself wondering why it(the widget) > wasn't in the object library and why the object library wasn't my go to tool > > > So, I went looking for info on this tool. I dug back, all the way, into 2.2 > and the only info I could find was the standard entry in the users manual. I only use it rarely, but you can get to it via the Development menu. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Strange results in deletion of lines
>> When you "delete line j of tHold", the number of lines in tHold >> changes. So, tCount no longer meshes > > That actually makes a lot of sense now that you mention it... guess > I've been overlooking the obvious. If you really want to do it with a loop, count backwards, then it will work fine. repeat with j = tCount down to 1 if character 1 of line j of tHold = "F" then delete line j of tHold end repeat Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: rev-web, revbrowser, on-rev, Linux, help!
> So basically it goes like this, doesn't it? > > We want to write on-rev material, we can, we use a text editor, then we > load it onto the Rev run on-rev server, and it works fine in Linux or > anything else, in any web browser. Presumably there's a handbook with a > guide for how to do this someplace. We don't have the on-rev desktop > client which might make life easer, but we can do it. Yes. > What we need for this is a subscription to the on-Rev hosting service. I'm > not thinking of doing this at the moment, so this not going to be > available. If Rev eventually releases the server package, then it would be > in principle possible to do this on any server where it was loaded, but we > are not there yet. Correct - the revServer is supposed to be available for installation on other servers sometime this year, I believe. > RevBrowser would, if we had it, display ordinary web pages hosted anyplace > in a stack. We can't do this because it does not exist for Linux. Yes. > The browser plugins, if we had them, but we don't, would basically let us > run stacks compiled for this purpose in a browser window. They could be > hosted anyplace, not just the Rev server. We don't have this plugin for > Linux, so we can't do it. > > But we can compile such stacks, and people running Windows and OSX will be > able to run them, as long as they install the browser plug in. It doesn't > really appeal to me, to write apps that my own OS will not run, but I do > understand that it is possible. Yes, although it is browser-specific. I can't get it to work in Chrome on my Mac, although it works fine in Safari. > Then there is Rodeo. If we could get Rodeo, it would let us write pages in > a special client, is that right? And then we could compile them to run in > any Web browser and host them on any server? But right now we cannot get > that either, because it is only for iPhone OS. The idea with Rodeo is to give people an easier way to create web apps, targeted at the iPad. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Check out Jerry's new videos
On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: > > "Peter, you don't need the On-Rev client app to use On-Rev." > > But don't you need the browser plug-in to use the pages you've made? For > instance, I seemingly can't get to the parts of your site that are Rev > based, because of no plug-in. Or is this a mistake? My web site is entirely built using On-Rev, mainly as a custom CMS, so I can edit it easily using just text files and the content gets formatted automatically. There are a few revlets available which you will not be able to access, but they are mainly for demonstration purposes and not actually a functional part of the web site. If there is anything else that you cannot access, I would really like to know what, so I can try to fix it. > Can you step through it, you want to make a web app, usable through the > browser, either on the local machine or on a local server, or on the On-Rev > server. What bits exactly do you have to use from Rev? The actual Rodeo desktop editor will be built in Rev and the web apps will rely on using On-Rev servers to do the conversions from the Rodeo scripting to HTML/CSS/Javascript. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: MySQL driver in Windows standalones
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 10:38 PM, paolo mazza wrote: > Why from a stack using the MySQL commands i get a single file application > for the MACOS platform and a file with the Externals folder (with dirvers + > .dll file) if I build the standalone for the windows platform? > > Can I have a windows application with the MySQL drivers embedded in a single > file (like for the mac?) ? A Mac app is actually a folder but the .app extension on the folder tells OS X to treat it like a single file. If you right-click/control-click on an app, you can select "Show Package Contents" from the popup menu and have a look at what is inside the app folder. You will find all your externals in there. But is does make distribution very nice when you can hide all these sorts of files inside this app folder, and Windows has no equivalent. The best option I think is to use an Installer creation program to bundle all these files into a single installer app. Then the installer can put the externals in your app folder or in the system folder or wherever you decide. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Accessing data from HID compliant USB device
> Fischertechnik® brings back memories of painfully standing barefoot on bits > my brother left lying around on the floor. Ah yes. Every parent knows that the most painful part of parenthood is standing on Lego bricks in the middle of the night :-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Accessing data from HID compliant USB device
> This one has been churning around in my head for ages, and I finally bought a > couple of joysticks to experiment with. > > I want to build a standalone that responds to joystick input. Nothing > requiring huge amounts of data or processing, just detection of joystick > position -> onscreen response scaling or moving an image. > > I can understand the basic principles of HID, but can't get to grips with > where the data goes in either Mac or Windows, and what would be involved in > capturing it in Rev. I have found some developer articles which address > this, but they relate to other languages (VB & RB, I think). Does the joystick produce keyDown/Up or rawKeyDown/Up messages? If so, you could map out the numbers that each motion triggers and have your app react accordingly. There is a utility on my web site that detects keystrokes and displays the various codes for them. <http://www.troz.net/rev/stacks/KeyCoder.rev> Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Check out Jerry's new videos
On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: > I think you may be missing a bigger market. HTML5 is supposed the be all the > rage, but there are almost no tools for making HTML5 pages. You could promote > your tool for making HTML5 pages, and then the fact that it might be iPad > compatible would be a selling point for your tool. As it stands it sounds > like an iPad web app tool, and people needing HTML5 pages might not think of > using it, and people like me who want to do iPad apps will realize that your > tool won't work offline, and so won't be interested. Hi Colin, interesting thoughts about HTML5. As regards Rodeo, while iPad editing will be through the browser and require you to be online, the desktop app will work offline. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Check out Jerry's new videos
> Jerry, its for Linux. So I don't have revBrowser, don't have the browser > plug-in, no desktop version. > > I did think about it when the introductory deal was introduced, but took a > pass because there was no way of knowing if I'd ever be able to use it. The > Rev site says that the Linux desktop version is coming soon. Is it really. > Peter, you don't need the On-Rev client app to use On-Rev. The files are just text-based so it's like editing html or PHP files, you can use any text editor and any FTP client. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Check out Jerry's new videos
Think of it as a construction kit for web apps. Cheers, Sarah On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: > I already have a life time subscription to on-rev's revServer and I already > own tRev, tText, revMobile, RunRev. So I am a bit confused about what is > being offered by Rodeo? On the surface it looks like a 'controlled' access to > on-rev through privately owned Rodeo and that the benefit of paying this > extra $10 a month is that you will provide some iRev Libraries to handle iPad > specific UI elements and or access to webKit in a web app??? > > I hope this is not the case as right away I can see that this will inhibit > contributions to a 'free' repository of library like snippets for us on-rev > users. > > > Tom > On May 7, 2010, at 6:56 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote: > >> Neal, >> >> Thanks, for Kicking In, btw! >> >> Rodeo's emphasis on server technology is a big plus: >> >> 1. We are really leveraging revServer to make it fast and develop it fast. >> 2. This eliminates the need to update client apps as Rodeo improves. >> >> Best, >> >> Jerry Daniels >> >> Use tRev's buy link during your 7 day free trial to get 20% off: >> http://reveditor.com/tag/shouldiswitch >> >> On May 7, 2010, at 5:53 PM, Neal Campbell wrote: >> >>> Not to divert anyone from Jerry's Rodeo (I am a Kickstarter!) but if you >>> want to see something like it, see the link below >>> http://www.componentone.com/SuperProducts/StudioiPhone/ >>> >>> Its nothing like the ease of Rev (its ,Net after all) but I think its a >>> similar concept. Except Rodeo (the new product) is a server-oriented app. >>> >>> >>> Neal Campbell >>> ___ >>> use-revolution mailing list >>> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Check out Jerry's new videos
Hi List, I am really excited about a new development initiative started by Jerry Daniels of tRev fame. Like many of you, Jerry & I want to develop for the iPad, but we don't want the hassle of dealing with the App Store and we don't want to struggle with Objective-C. So it looks like web apps are a possible solution, but that requires learning so many technologies: HTML, CSS, Javascript etc. So what is the answer? Rodeo! Go to http://rodeoapps.com/ and check out the three introductory videos. And if you still don't have tRev, run to http://reveditor.com/tag/shouldiswitch Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How exactly does runrev for ipad/iphone work?
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 10:24 AM, David C. wrote: >> 3.3.1 — Applications may only use Documented APIs in the manner >> prescribed by Apple and must not use or call any private APIs. >> Applications must be originally written in Objective-C, C, C++, >> or JavaScript as executed by the iPhone OS WebKit engine, and >> only code written in C, C++, and Objective-C may compile and >> directly link against the Documented APIs (e.g., Applications >> that link to Documented APIs through an intermediary translation >> or compatibility layer or tool are prohibited). > > Question: > Is it even possible for folks running Windows to use the "Blessed API" > as required -or- are they completely locked out of the development > cycle all together, sans Mac hardware ownership? No, Apple's development tools are Mac only. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Programming on iPad
>> Not if it is develop with Objective C (or C++)... > > If it actually *runs* anything in the dev environment then it falls foul of > the 'no interpreted code' clause no matter what is was written in, but then > so do most of the games on the store. It creates PHP files, which then run through the browser, not through the app. Sounds OK to me. Weird interface, but very interesting as a concept. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Apple Anti-Trust (was Apples actual response to the Flash issue)
> Like a few others on this list I am now pretty convinced that the PC market > is about to be dramatically overtaken by the new mobile market in terms of > sales and new software developments. Apple and others will be quite happy to > leave the desktop market to the web and to open source strategies - they > simply will not be interested in closing this market - let Google have it. > They (ie Apple and others) clearly want to dominate the mobile market in the > way that Microsoft succeeded to with the 1990's desktop market. I completely agree with this assessment. > Regulators and commentators are now wise to those tricks and will kick up a > fuss early if they see moves like this coming - there are a lot of people > and governments who want to keep these new markets open, and global > networked markets do not stay open by themselves - they can and have decayed > into monopolies, and mathematical models clearly show this to be an inherent > property of free markets in certain situations - we don't need a conspiracy > theory to explain it. > > It is not unreasonable to view this as an early stage in the battle between > two different types of mobile market place, one closed and dominated by a > single proprietary player and the other open. I think regulators would only > be doing their Job (pun intended) to take a closer look at this - better > early than late given how long these things take to go through the courts > and how fast this market is going to move. It is important to remember that there is nothing illegal about having a monopoly. But as Microsoft showed, it is possible to use the power that a monopoly gives, to perform illegal acts. This is a distinction that is ignored by most bloggers, but I would hope that the denizens of this list are more intelligent than that. Regards, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue
> The point of it all, is for someone like Jon to call Apple, "Appholes," > clearly shows there IS a problem. Am I the only one who has a problem with Jon Stewart tacitly condoning theft? Regards, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do I put an image in memory into an image object?
Here is a handler I use for scaling images: command scaleImage pImgName, pMaxW, pMaxH, pMinW, pMinH, pExpand put the formattedWidth of pImgName into tFormW put the formattedHeight of pImgName into tFormH put 1 into tScale if pExpand = true then -- expand to fill max limits, maintaining aspect ratio put tFormW / tFormH into tAspectRatio if pMaxW > tFormW then put pMaxW into tFormW put pMaxW div tAspectRatio into tFormH else if pMaxH > tFormH then put pMaxH into tFormH put round(pMaxH * tAspectRatio) into tFormW end if end if if tFormW > pMaxW then put pMaxW / tFormW into tScale put round(tFormW * tScale) into tFormW put round(tFormH * tScale) into tFormH end if if tFormH > pMaxH then put pMaxH / tFormH into tScale put round(tFormH * tScale) into tFormH put round(tFormW * tScale) into tFormW end if if tScale = 1 then -- only expand if the image has not already been shrunk to fit if tFormW < pMinW then put pMinW / tFormW into tScale put round(tFormW * tScale) into tFormW put round(tFormH * tScale) into tFormH end if if tFormH < pMinH then put pMinH / tFormH into tScale put round(tFormH * tScale) into tFormH put round(tFormW * tScale) into tFormW end if end if put the loc of pImgName into tLoc set the width of pImgName to tFormW set the height of pImgName to tFormH set the loc of pImgName to tLoc end scaleImage Use it like this: scaleImage the long name of img "Pic", 400,400,64,64 or scaleImage the long name of img "Pic", 400,400,64,64,true The first one will make the image sized somewhere between 400 and 64 in both dimensions, but maintaining the aspect ratio, The second one enlarge the image if necessary to make it as big as possible within the set limits. HTH, Sarah On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote: > Sarah, > > Bingo. That does it. > > I can lock the image size but the image doesn't scale evenly. How can I get > it to scale evenly within the image boundary? > > Bill Vlahos > _ > InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life > information with you, accessible, and secure. > > On May 2, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: > >> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Bill Vlahos wrote: >>> I have an image on disk that is encrypted. I can decrypt the image in >>> memory but how do I put that image variable into an image object? I would >>> also like to automatically fit the image into the predefined object. >>> >>> I can set the fileName but that means the file exists on disk not encrypted. >> >> >> What about: >> put tUnencryptedData into image "Picture" >> >> Cheers, >> Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do I put an image in memory into an image object?
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Bill Vlahos wrote: > I have an image on disk that is encrypted. I can decrypt the image in memory > but how do I put that image variable into an image object? I would also like > to automatically fit the image into the predefined object. > > I can set the fileName but that means the file exists on disk not encrypted. What about: put tUnencryptedData into image "Picture" Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: MacBookPro advice needed.
> And Sarah, let me express my utter horror that you let your kids play games > on your development computer. I trust that any woman brilliant enough to > develop software, has not provided an Administrator account in either OS to > the little gremlins? LOL! The "little gremlins" are now bigger than me and have their own computers, but they know that Mum's computer is off-limits :-) But these days, even the game playing kids realise that the best computer for running either Windows or Mac OS, is a Mac. BTW, for the original poster, here is a link to a recent article about the various ways to run Windows on a Mac. <http://www.macwindows.com/winintelmac.html> Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Database] Retrieving sql statement result
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Marcello Bertoli wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a question about runrev database commands. Is there a way to get the > result of a sql statement that doesn't retrieve data (is not a select)? For > example: > > In a postgresql scenario I need to execute the statement: > > "listen foo" > > and I need to retrieve the result. > > It seems that the only rev command I can use is revExecuteSql but in this way > I can't get the result the sql engine gives after the statement is executed. > revDataFromQuery seems to work only for retrieving data from a query, not > from a statement... If you check "the result" after your revExecuteSQL statement, it should contain the data you need. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sockets
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Hershel Fisch wrote: > Hi, could any help me out with a full socket session ? Please! Check out either of my email libraries: http://www.troz.net/rev/stacks/POP_library_demo.rev http://www.troz.net/rev/stacks/SMTP_library_demo.rev They both use sockets to communicate to the relevant servers. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cannot run .exec file of project
> I am using Rev Enterprise 4.0.0 (built 950). After compiling my project, I > found that my app ran fine on OS X (10.6.2) but it will not run on Windows > XP using Parallels Version Build 5.0.9344. The splash screen appears but the > application does not launch and an error message dialog that is set using > the error reporting in Standalone Applications setting appears: > > Executing at 1:48:22 PM on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 > Type: Chunk: can't find stack > Object: card 'card id 1002' of stack 'C:/Documents and > Settings/Administrator/Desktop/S504.exe' > Line: show stack 'Support 504 Assist' > Line Num: 48 > Hint: continue Are you sure the missing stack is part of the exe? Is is it a separate sub-stack, in which case, you need to make sure it is kept with the exe if you move it. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: MacBookPro advice needed.
> I'd like advice in two areas . > > 1. Should I buy the 13-inch or the 15-inch ? > I can compare the screen sizes, and the resolution and even the relative > weights. > But I don't have a realistic idea of how much faster the Intel i5 is over > the older Dual Core. > So any advice about performance, or pointers to reliable benchmark sites for > Mac ? As I understand it, the new Intel i5 is not that much faster than the old Dual Core, but the new graphics architecture makes the new MacBooks way faster than the old models, even if this is not obvious from the basic CPU speed. > 2. I plan to dual-boot or triple-boot OSX, Win 7 and Linux (some kind). > Probably just using Bootcamp, but I might want to use VmWare or other VM > later. > Any advice on setting the machine up to make this easy ? Just get the biggest hard drive you can. My kids use BootCamp because they want to be able to play all the modern games. I use Sun's Virtual Box which is free, but doesn't have the performance of BootCamp. But I can switch to it without rebooting and it runs Rev fine. Parallels (& I think Fusion but I'm not sure) has the ability to run rom your BootCamp partition, so you can have both systems and just choose the one that meets your needs at the time. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: On-Rev Directory Configuration
> For anyone who has an On-Rev account: > What do you get when you point your > Web-browser to: > > http://(Insert Your Domain).on-rev.com/ > > Are you getting a list of your directories, or > something else? > > If you are getting a list of directories, isn't this > a problem? Shouldn't the page forward to > some other webpage like your index.html page? > > Is there a way to configure things so that it does > forward to your index page? A configuration file > of some sort, located where? I get my index file: index.html or index.irev are the 2 that I use. And I didn't have to configure anything to make this happen. Are you sure that directory has a valid index file in it? What happens if you go to http://(Insert Your Domain).on-rev.com/index.html directly? Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revOnline Updates
>> I'd be happy to help but I don't know what Script Reporter is. But >> presumably it has some of my scripts in it :-) > > Script Reporter (revOnline) is "A simple script trolling stack that will > gather all scripts in any stack and present them all in an easily accessible > format.". It was written by Stewart Lynch, and amended/enhanced on 07 May > 2009 by Sarah Reichelt. Forgotten already, busy year, eh? > > I therefore surmise that you went through the process of submitting and > negotiating the implementation of the changes. I hope you can give me some > info on that.___ Ah yes, I remember it now. I just helped Stewart by supplying the colorization scripts. As far as I know, only the original author can upload a changed stack to revOnline. Stewart's web page about this utility is at <http://www.createchsol.com/ScriptReporter/> and that has a link which you should be able to use to contact him. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Help with pref file
> I set up my pref file to be a substack of my app. My app is launched using a > Splash screen. The user clicks on the Preference in the menu and then enters > the name of the school for the report in the Prefs substack. When the > Preference substack is closed, the name of the school appears throughout the > report at the top of the card. > > Here is my problem: When I added a name of the school in the preference pane > and closed it the name was correctly inserted in the report. When I quit the > program and restart it the name of the school is not in the report but it > still appears in the Preference substack. So the name of the school is saved > in Preference substack but it is not being saved in the report? I am > supposed to conduct a test of my program today in a school. Can anyone give > me a "quick fix" for this problem? Charles, the pref file gets saved and it stores the data. The other stacks in the app do not get saved I presume, so any changes to them are only temporary. When your app starts, say in a startup handler or in a preOpenStack handler, read the settings from your prefs file and apply them again, as if someone had just entered the data into the prefs stack. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
