Re: Small update to Plugin
Thanks a lot for spreading the good news! Now, i am curious to know the function of revupdatechecker.exe that i see running among processes in Windows Task Manager Alejandro Heather Nagey wrote: We have just uploaded a small update to the 4.0 web plugin, [snip] -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Small-update-to-Plugin-tp26132174p26132590.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia Woes
Hi Jim, James Hurley wrote: I don't know if this is related, but I have found that there is a significant increase in speed in going from Rev IDE on Mac OS to the revLet see discussion below. I've been waiting for some clarification from Rev. [snip] go url http://jamesphurley.on-rev.com/OnRevGraphicTimer.rev; And on the Web, go to http://jamesphurley.on-rev.com/OnRevTimer/test.html In the first card, the speed i see in my browser ranges from 289 milliseconds to 450 milliseconds. Oddly enough, there are too many variations of speed among repetitions that i dont know which of these speed is the most reliable measure. Hugh Senior wrote: Plugin failed to load. I suspect that Web Server and download speed have something to do with this error. Have you noticed that revlets samples posted in Runrev site always work? Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/RevMedia-Woes-tp26118810p26134609.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia Question: Securing the revlet?
Hi Malte, This is similar to methods used by Director and Flash to stop users of running their apps from their hard disk. Al -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/RevMedia-Question%3A-Securing-the-revlet--tp26129636p26137360.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Another How to do this in a Revlet? thread
Hi Richard, Actually, these are plain and simple vector graphics, organized like concentric rings that you could show and hide, depending of zoom level. This zoom slider is actually scaling all graphics from the center. Adobe Flash do not scale all vector graphics at the same time. This is an illusion. But a really fast one. I had published an stack that uses matrices to scale vector graphics. Scaling the points of vector graphics in a loop or driven by a scale slider should be no problem. ;-) http://www.capellan2000.000space.com/graphics_transformations_01.zip Scott Rossi published an stack that shows a rotating and scaling vector graphic: http://tactilemedia.com/site_files/downloads/tutti3d.rev.zip About the seemingly infinite zoom, you could simulate this showing a new group of vector graphics when the outer container group of graphics reach certain zoom level. Did you notice that small graphics in the center, only show distinguishable details after they reach certain size? You could use this exact scale point to hide the outer vector container group and show a new vector graphics group that you could keep scaling. When the container group is zoomed out of the stack area, hide this group and the scale slider controls the resize of the recently visible group. In this way, you are zooming only one group of graphics, not all the groups at the same time. And when the group reach a certain scale or zoom, you show a new group and hide previous zoomed group. Keep doing this ad infinitum. Like showing and hiding concentric rings. Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Another-%22How-to-do-this-in-a-Revlet-%22-thread-tp26132513p26138470.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] RevLetObject javascript include.
Many thanks for sharing this useful script! :-D My only worry is: What could happen in the specific case that users had disabled javascript, just like some Firefox extensions do. By the way, Andre, Could you prepare an online demo of revlets and javascript interaction? I have to ask about this because you are one of the participants in this mail list, that have extensive knowledge in revTalk and Javascript. Thanks in advance! Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/-ANN--RevLetObject-javascript-include.-tp26134566p26138751.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
revupdatechecker.exe
Hi all, Today, after installing the new version of the browser plug-in, i noticed that there is a new process running with the name: revupdatechecker.exe Winamp uses an application named winampa.exe to retain media files association. Actually, they ask for permission to install this app. Notice that Rev does not ask me for permission to install this update mechanism. i hope that this is not permanent and works only for Beta releases. Which other mechanisms (besides running this app permanently) could Runrev use to alert the users of new updates for web plugin? Thanks in advance. Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/revupdatechecker.exe-tp26117233p26117233.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Clueless revlet question
Andre, you sound really excited for this new feature. Can you show us (by examples) what could we do :D from a revlet to control a browser's webpage? Thanks in advance. Alejandro Andre Garzia-3 wrote: do in browser is working? :-O rejoice! rejoice! I missed the release of this... boys, we're on to some wild ride now! -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-Clueless-revlet-question-tp26108991p26117546.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Living in Silicon Valley
Actually, i liked the tv series Cosmos 1999 :D http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_1999 Scott Rossi wrote: Even with the the ultra-high cost of living, the traffic, and the unemployment, sometimes living in California's Silicon Valley has a silver lining. http://www.thetech.org/StarTrek/ -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-OT--Living-in-Silicon-Valley-tp26071990p26117947.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia Portable
Actually, just as you stated, the purpose is to use the IDE from any Windows computer, without rebooting. About stability, the answer should lie in the hooks that IDE installation make to Windows OS during installation and use. Alejandro Peter Alcibiades wrote: Is the aim to have a version you can take with you and use wherever you are? Or is the aim to be able to use the IDE from any computer you find around, without rebooting? What is it that makes running the IDE from Windows not stable? I did not test for long, but it seemed to run fine on Debian. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/RevMedia-Portable-tp26036319p26118370.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia Woes
Yes, Completely awesome! :D I noticed that this revlet runs faster too: http://capellan2000.000space.com/test03.html Does it means that Runrev made some optimizations or enhancements specifically oriented to screen redraw? H, maybe this explain the absence of Palettes and substacks in their own window... Just a wild guess. Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/RevMedia-Woes-tp26118810p26119539.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia Portable
Hi Mark, Although i understand that is really useful to have portable editions of enterprise or studio, i talk about portable editions of RevMedia's free versions. Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/RevMedia-Portable-tp26036319p26121378.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revlet Woes - Substacks Don't Open
Richmond, visit this page (A simple paint stack) and explain us if you apply use the same method with your stacks: http://revmedia.runrev.com/revWeb-samples/sketch/ Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/revlet-woes-tp26103180p26121585.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Autocomplete field
Hi Peter, Many thanks for posting this handler. Filtering the search results is a great idea! Thanks again. Looks like your handler was cut-off, because the rawKeydown handler does not had a closing match. While running this handler, i always get the word sEntryBuffer in the field enterPt and could not erase the content using backspace or delete keys. Obviously, i am doing something wrong. Could you point me where is my error? Notice that to run this handler i created a global named pList that contains the names list and changed the part of the script where it reads ptList: put ptList into selectedPts (changed to:) put pList into selectedPts Thanks in advance. Alejandro Peter Brigham MD wrote: I modified your code to include filtering the displayed list. Works like a charm, very elegant. Great timing, too, since your solution met a need I just discovered I had Note comments marked with --## (watch line wraps) # match name as user types on rawKeyDown pWhich if the commandKey is down then pass rawKeyDown # exclude any functions like copy, paste, etc. if pWhich = 255 then # for anything that's in ascii range put the selectedChunk into tSelChunk if word 2 of tSelChunk = word 4 of tSelChunk then # adding a char to the end of the entry buffer put sEntryBuffer numToChar(pWhich) into sEntryBuffer else # inserting a char inside the entry buffer put numToChar(pWhich) after char word 4 of tSelChunk of sEntryBuffer put sEntryBuffer into fld enterPt end if --## I added the following two lines --## pList is a global containing the full list of names put pList into selectedPts filter selectedPts with sEntryBuffer * --## now selectedPts contains only those entries that match --## this shortens simplifies the display list put lineOffset(cr sEntryBuffer, cr selectedPts) into currentLine if currentLine 0 then put selectedPts into fld pList --## instead of putting the whole list into the field showUserList set the hilitedLines of field pList to currentLine set the scroll of field pList to \ (currentLine - 1) * the effective textHeight of field pList put the selectedText of fld pList into fld enterPt select char (word 2 of tSelChunk) + 1 to -1 of fld enterPt else hide fld pList set the hilitedline of fld pList to 0 put sEntryBuffer into fld enterPt select after char word 4 of tSelChunk + 1 of fld enterPt end if else # handle all other keys -- Peter -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Autocomplete-field-tp26098204p26123877.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Autocomplete field
Hi all, Visit the webpage: http://www.capellan2000.000space.com/test05.html and download the stack: http://capellan2000.000space.com/autocomplete_names.zip I am looking for ideas to make better the code of these autocomplete fields. Notice that in this example, both fields have the same names list, but actual stack will use two different lists. Steps to use this stack: 1) Click in the first top field, (names list field is show) and start typing the name. According you type, the names list scrolls to the name whose first letters match. (This handler is a variation of a script posted by Klaus Major and archived in Ken Ray's site) Notice that, just like some web browsers do, you could keep writing and the field will a) show a new name from the list or b) leave the field, as no more match are found (I like this part) Sometimes while writing, you could see in the name list field the name that you want to type. In this case, you could use the bottom arrowkey to jump towards the names list field: on arrowkey tKey if tKey is down then click at (left of fld id 1004 + 20),(top of fld id 1004 + 10) else pass arrowkey end if end arrowkey Effectively, i send a synthetic Click to activate the names list field. Using the command Focus do not work as expected:focus on fld id 1004 In fact, when i use focus the field does not allow to select new names using the arrowkeys (up and down), but sending a click on the field, allows to use arrowkeys in the names list field. Thanks in advance for your help. Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Autocomplete-field-tp26098204p26098204.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia Portable
Hi Peter, Peter Alcibiades wrote: Alejandro, what is the problem exactly? [snip] But it seems to run fine from the stick. Or is there something else? Must be Yes, there is something else. The development enviroment freeze and had to force quit RevMedia. Tested in different machines with the same result. al -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/RevMedia-Portable-tp26036319p26053839.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New direction for Stacks and Code Samples
Actually the free webhosting that I choose, 000space, allows revlets, but no big files. al -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/New-direction-for-Stacks-and-Code-Samples-tp26042254p26053882.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
New direction for Stacks and Code Samples
Hi all, Monday, 2009 October 26, Geocities will close and my page and files will dissapear. For this reason, i have moved my page and files to this new location: http://www.capellan2000.000space.com/ Hopefully, as time permits, I will convert each one of these stacks in revlets to run inside the browser. Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/New-direction-for-Stacks-and-Code-Samples-tp26042254p26042254.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RevMedia Portable
Hi all, Reading news about RevMedia launching in November, I will repeat the same question from days ago: When RunRev will launch RevMedia as a portable application, that run from a PenDrive or CD, without installation? Notice that some third party developers, devote themselves to create Portable Apps from Free and Open Source applications, like Gimp, Inkscape, Open Office, etc. Of course, Programming environments like Perl, Python, Ruby and Dev-C++ have their own portable version. If RunRev had no plans to release a portable version, Will they allow that someone else create it? Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/RevMedia-Portable-tp26036319p26036319.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Music ????
Hi Kenji, Kenji Kojima wrote: [snip] Yes, UDI's makeSMFLib works on MacOS, Windows and browser. Yes, it works great inside a browser. Hopefully, UDI will complete the code for importing and converting Midi files. I found the stack Random Music Player specially interesting and would like to understand thoroughly this code. Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Music--tp25963613p25998852.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Music ????
Hi All, Remember that UDI published many stacks to play Midi music using Quicktime. And there is a Keyboard, too: http://homepage.mac.com/udi/stack/tool.html Mac Users should not have problems to decode all Rev and Zip files encoded as HQX, but Windows Users without WinZip or Stuffit Expander, should download UUDeview to decode HQX: http://www.miken.com/uud/ Surely, these stacks will benefit from a code update, to use recent additions to the language. Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Music--tp25963613p25985636.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Headless COMPAQ P3
Richmond, Did you notice, like me, that stubborn entities like sheeps and personal computers when they go against you, attack directly to your feets??? Congratulations for completing your Runrev developer setup: Mac, Linux and PC Have a nice weekend! al Richmond Mathewson-2 wrote: After about 24 hours of sweat, tears and a dropped PC on my foot AND PREVIOUSLY: lost both my big toenails about 25 years ago as a 'Yow' didn't fancy me as her hairdresser and stepped on my toes with her nippy sharp feet -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-OT--Headless-COMPAQ-P3-tp25847412p25847963.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Perl and Revolution at OSDC.fr 2009
Hi Thierry, Congratulations for this great achievement! Since ever, I have believed that is in the best interest of this platform (and all of us) to develop ways of intercomunication with other programming languages, like Perl, Python or Java. When will you publish benchmarks of the overhead of processing data (text, numerical or binary) inside rev compared with processing the same data within a Perl function? Thanks in advance! Keep up your great good work. al -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Perl-and-Revolution-at-OSDC.fr-2009-tp25616682p25813688.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Applying the concept of Images libraries (vector and bitmaps )
Hi all, Recently, i have been advising some fellow teachers about using revMedia to create educational content. One of the most frequent request that i found, is the possibility of reusing images (vector and bitmaps) across different stacks and reusing the same images in the one stack with variations in size, ink effects, inside groups, etc, without including the same images several times, to achieve the desired effect. Notice that Graphics software, like Adobe Ilustrator, Flash and Xara have implemented this concept: http://www.jnack.com/adobe/flash/symbols.html How could we implement this concept with our stacks, so there is not need to import the same bitmaps or vector graphics to apply different effects or dimensions in different cards? Thanks in advance! al -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Applying-the-concept-of-Images-libraries-%28vector-and-bitmaps-%29-tp25813844p25813844.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Applying the concept of Images libraries (vector and bitmaps )
Hi Scott, Many thanks for answering this request. How do you handle the particular case, where the same image is used in different cards using varied ink effects and sizes? Why is important sub-pixel positioning and imge distortions? Thanks in advance! al Scott Rossi wrote: One way to implement symbols with images is (ironically) by using buttons or graphics: set the icon of a button or the backPattern of a graphic to the id of an image. This effectively allows you to have one source image in your stack that is referenced in multiple places; changing the source image will cause all references to the source to update. If one can live with external files, the fileName property is another way to implement symbolic references for images. For graphics, the only roundabout way I can think of implementing some kind of symbolic reference is by retrieving properties of a source graphic and applying the properties to a reference graphic. Obviously, this is not a true symbolic connection, but rather a klunky workaround. The really phenomenal aspect of symbols in Flash comes into play via distortions: in most cases, if you distort a symbol on the stage, say by adjusting its dimensions, skew, angle, or some other property, then replacing that symbol with another symbol causes the newly replaced symbol to inherit the modifications of the original symbol. In my view, this is a seriously powerful feature of Adobe's symbol implementation that would be great to see in Rev. For myself, I believe there are more pressing items desperately needed, such as sub-pixel positioning of objects and irregular distortion of images. FWIW. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Applying-the-concept-of-Images-libraries-%28vector-and-bitmaps-%29-tp25813844p25814407.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Smoothing a curve
Hi All, Some time ago, i published this stack that shows two algorithms for smoothing the straight sides of a polygon: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/Two_smooth_polygon_algorithm.zip This stack implements two polygon smoothing algorithms: Chaikin and Shemanarev Here is a screenshot: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/Vector_algorithms.PNG Hope it is useful. alejandro Hugh Senior-2 wrote: Hello Francois, I think we need a RevCoding mathematician! I struggle with elementary mathematics, let alone polynomial tangent functions! /H Le 2 oct. 09 ` 19:15, Hugh Senior a icrit : I am also trying to plot a curved line through coordinate points, so a Bezier curve is not an appropriate route as it intentionally misses the coordinate point. Similarly, with potentially big distances between points, how 'smooth' is 'smooth'? A sharp, angular curve at each point or a more flattened, rounded curve? And this assumes that no curve is possible at all for the first and last points because there is no way of knowing the shape at all. One math guru I spoke to said it's not doable with coordinate data anyway, only statistical data. I hope he is incorrect. IF the Bezier curve is a function y=f(x) of the horizontal pixel number N, the the best you can on screen (or printer fror that matter) do is draw a line (hopefully anti aliased) from each point (x,integer((f(x))) to point (x+1,integer(f(x+1))). f is a polynomial. To manage the general case, you can search for the mathematical (i.e. maybe non integer) points at which the tangent of the curves is vertical. Best regards, Frangois ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-Smoothing-a-curve-tp25729808p25731511.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Vote to disable image copying from password protected stacks
Visit report 8251 to vote for disable image copy from password protected stacks. http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=8251 To copy an image from a password protected stack, users just had to select the image and write in the message box: set the clipboarddata to the text of the selobj Then, to paste the image in a new stack, users create a new empty image object and type in the message box: set the text of the selobj to the clipboarddata Using this method, i was able to copy gif animations from a password protected stack. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Vote-to-disable-image-copying-from-password-protected-stacks-tp25323494p25323494.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Vote to disable password protection for revMedia 4 stacks
Robert Maniquant wrote: 1) develop the sharing habit of utilities, eductionalWare, libraries. Maybe runrev can think of some innovative incentive to do so. Something like this could help: http://ced.ncsu.edu/mmania/ i serve as judge in one of the editions of this event. Students sent websites, with multiple pages, powerpoint presentations, quicktime videos and stacks created with HyperStudio. MultimediaMania was halted for a lack of sponsors. Ideally winners prices will be sponsored by hardware manufacturers like Dell, HP, Lenovo or Acer, for a teacher tutor and students. Schools could receive training for their teachers. Robert Maniquant wrote: 2) provide solutions to better monitor the runrev user base. I might be a good idea to set up a kind of revWeb search engine that will gather all pages using the plugin. It is peculiar to runrev to communicate very few information on the user base. And there are very few examples of commercial softwares using runrev on the home site. Such a search engine might help lift up interrogations by potential users. Actually, i have never informed Rev about any Commercial Standalone i have created or had participated. i do not feel obligated to report the type of work that i create in Rev. Why other developers should? By the way, in the Quality Control Center page for this request, Kevin wrote: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=8234 To respond to the actual request here, i.e. in relation to sharing of stacks / libraries / etc, revMedia does not allow you to password protect a stack. Nor does it allow you to unlock a password protected stack created in another edition. The revlet format is encoded and will be non-trivial to reverse engineer. -- Now, if somebody want password protection in revMedia, it will be neccesary to fill an enhancement request... al -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Vote-to-disable-password-protection-for-revMedia-4-stacks-tp25096861p25142582.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Syllabic division of words
Randall Reetz wrote: I should clarify. Stochastic (counting and statistical) methods of meaning acquisition are employed often to avoid structural grammatical parsing. Some adherents go further and posit that brains don't use grammar anyway, why should computers? Actually, i believe that language came first and grammatical rules were collected later to explain and formalize the language conventions. Only languages of recent creation have this relation inverted. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Syllabic-division-of-words-tp25037099p25100857.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Syllabic division of words
Actually, i understand Randall petition. The task of syllabic (and phonemes) division for many languages was already done by the Research labs of Apple, Microsoft, ATT and many more private companies. Probably, Applescript and VBScript allows to access these extraordinary capabilities of the Operating System, inside Rev. Not only via Text-to-Speech, but using the underlaying technology that makes possible this conversion of text-to-sound. Returning to the topic of this thread: Download the stack separacion_de_silabas.rev, from: http://capellan2000.000space.com/separacion_de_silabas.zip This stak is an example of how to divide in syllabes without applying every one of the gramatical rules... :-O On your browser, visit: http://capellan2000.000space.com/test04.html This revlet ask for permission to write to your disk and access the network, but in fact it only set the clipboard content and launch a webpage... Please, report to my email, all incorrect examples of syllabication that you encounter. ;-) Thanks in advance! alejandro Randall Reetz wrote: Somewhere in the apple, microsoft, and unix tech there is code that exposes the phonetic mapping to syllabic chunking within a word or phrase. It is usually in os best interest to expose hooks into core services to encourage application writing attention. My point is that this functionality is best placed deep down in the computing stack, not up at the application level where only a small user group can benefit. If the rev user is required to hunt for external api's... well, forget it. Not interested. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Syllabic-division-of-words-tp25037099p25091038.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Syllabic division of words
Richard Gaskin wrote: Nicely done. The downloadable stack, that is. The RevLet through an error (There was an error loading the revlet failed to read revlet stack). But the download - nice job, esp. in choosing the appropriate consonants to split on. I always enjoy your stuff. Thanks for posting that. Many thanks for your kind words! This is an example of code, created like a quick hack and (thanks to the versatility of revTalk) works mostly as expected. :-D Actually my stacks and code should be divided in two broad categories: Full Awake and Half sleepy. For example, this stack about syllabic division of words fits nicely in the second category. Someday, when time allows and being fully awake, i will check again this code and rewrite it completely, probably in a long winded form. Mark Swindell wrote: Very nice. I had no trouble with the revlet using Safari... what a a great addition to Rev. BTW, what algorithms do word processing programs use for hyphenating? Great to know that it works in Safari for Mac OS X. Precisely, i was looking in the OpenOffice repository of code, but was unable to find an explanation of the algorithm. Adding many more exceptions to syllabic division is inevitable, so in others iterations of this stack, it will be unavoidable to create an interface that allow users to add (and test) their own exceptions. Please, report to my email, all incorrect examples of syllabication that you encounter. ;-) Thanks in advance! Have a nice weekend. alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Syllabic-division-of-words-tp25037099p25091358.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Vote to disable password protection for revMedia 4 stacks
Hi all, This is an enhancement request for revMedia 4. filled in Report # 8234. Given that revMedia 4 will be free, the option to password protect your scripts should be allowed only in Studio and Enterprise versions of Rev, just like the options to use encryption, Business databases and SSL. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Vote-to-disable-password-protection-for-revMedia-4-stacks-tp25096861p25096861.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Vote to disable password protection for revMedia 4 stacks
Richard Gaskin wrote: But before I vote I have to ask: Could there be security considerations for the end-user or RunRev which are minimized with this ability? Minimized? Do you mean: How could revMedia 4 end users will be affected if they could not password protect their stacks? For example, if a teacher creates a multiple-choice test, all correct answers will be available to anyone that uses the IDE... :-( and surely there should exists many more examples of users affected in some way. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Vote-to-disable-password-protection-for-revMedia-4-stacks-tp25096861p25097187.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Vote to disable password protection for revMedia 4 stacks
Richmond Mathewson-2 wrote: Not really, if the questions and answers are stored out with the stack in some sort of encoded document! Obviously without the ability to password protect stacks the programmer who wants to protect his/her data (i.e. stuff other than scripts) will have to make an extra effort - but in computer-land all things are password protectable, and all password protection is crackable . . . So, quite frankly, why bother about this at all? Then, if using password encryption is the same as not using it, you are going to add your vote to dissable password protection in revMedia 4. Right? By the way, if all password protection is crackable... Could anybody, in this mail list, deprotect the script of my stack: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/Learn_Japanese_Syllabaries_v092.zip Have a nice weekend! alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Vote-to-disable-password-protection-for-revMedia-4-stacks-tp25096861p25097522.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Syllabic division of words
Hi all, Actually, i have found an online syllabic divisor: http://www.respublicae.net/lengua/silabas/ that could be useful to compare the output of this script. In other webpage, there is a list of 4212 valid syllabes: http://www.cpimario.com/silabas.zip My first test script divided wrong most of the words, but recent iterations produce more than 85% correct syllabic division. Eventually, as time permits, the script will grow more accurate. Then, it will be ready to show in stack or revlet form. i noticed the discussion about english language, but remember that this script will parse spanish text. Natural language processing is one of the topics of investigation for Artificial inteligence researchers. i hope to see, someday, a complete implementation of the chatbot ALICE made in revTalk, available to run with RevCGI engine. http://www.alicebot.org/about.html Many thanks to everyone that help with their ideas. Have a nice weekend! alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Syllabic-division-of-words-tp25037099p25072452.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Syllabic division of words
Hi all, Recently, someone asked me a script to divide words in syllabes. I know, for certain, that this kind of task is especially suited for a language like revtalk, but honestly, i dont know how to begin. Should use a dictionary of common words (like: origin=o ri gin) and use search and replace to convert words in their syllabes or Should use conditional structures, like switch and if...then...else to test for syllabic division rules in each word...? Your advice is welcome! Thanks in advance alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Syllabic-division-of-words-tp25037099p25037099.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Syllabic division of words
Hi Richard, Many thanks for the link. This information is really important. About the use for this syllabic divisor, surely is for some kind of analitic lenguage task. Have you noticed that common words are always shorter than specialised vocabulary? Thanks again for your help! alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Syllabic-division-of-words-tp25037099p25037708.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Challenge: How can we set the rect of a polygon to its visual rect? (and a tentative solution)
Hi Wilhelm, Wilhelm Sanke, FB01 wrote: Could it be that the option to crop is contained in a different version of your stack? This the part of the script that crop the image to the size of the user created cropping rectangle: if cropImage = true then repeat until foundGraphic = 1 -- or qfl = the number of lines of tSelection put line qfl of tSelection into tGraphic if qfl = the number of lines of tSelection then put 1 into foundGraphic if word 1 of tGraphic is graphic and the forecolor of tGraphic = cropColor then put 1 into foundGraphic set the name of tGraphic to tCropGraphicRectangle set the layer of graphic tCropGraphicRectangle to the layer of tMaskedImage + 1 put the rect of graphic tCropGraphicRectangle into zxy do crop tMaskedImage to zxy else add 1 to qfl end if end repeat end if Wilhelm Sanke, FB01 wrote: The question is, how do you compute the points of a polygon (that will extend to the full size of the rect of a regular polygon without differences between rect and visual rect) if you do not have a normal polygon as a template? Some time ago, i posted a stack named export_regular_polygons than shows a formula to convert regular polygons (3 to 20 sides) in polygons: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/export_regular_polygons.zip on mouseUp if the hilite of btn Leave Trails is false then repeat with i = the number of grcs of this stack down to 3 if the name of graphic i contains Test then next repeat else delete grc i end repeat end if -- if fld sides is a number then set the polysides of me to fld sides set the polysides of me to the short name of btn id 2114 put the polysides of me into asdfg put 360/asdfg into regularPolygonAngle if fld grcangle is a number and fld grcangle 361 then set the angle of me to round(fld grcangle) put the angle of me into qwerty put item 1 of the loc of me into mX put item 2 of the loc of me into mY put the rect of me into lkjhg put abs(item 1 of lkjhg - item 3 of lkjhg) into plm1 put abs(item 2 of lkjhg - item 4 of lkjhg) into plm2 if plm1 plm2 then if plm1 plm2 then put (plm1 / 2) into polarRadius else put (plm2 / 2 ) into polarRadius else put (plm1 / 2) into polarRadius end if if fld exact is a number then put polarRadius - fld exact into polarRadius -- this is very interesting, because this operation make the figure more exact! repeat with i = 1 to asdfg -- the sides of the reg poly put (regularPolygonAngle * i) + qwerty into ang put (ang * pi )/ 180 into radians -- find rectangular coordinates of ( polarRadius,radians) if the hilite of btn Use statRound is true then put statround(mX + (polarRadius * cos (radians))) , after rfv put statround(mY + (polarRadius * sin (radians))) return after rfv else -- the hilite of btn Use round put round(mX + (polarRadius * cos (radians))) , after rfv put round(mY + (polarRadius * sin (radians))) return after rfv end if end repeat put item 1 of the first line of rfv,item 2 of the first line of rfv after rfv -- put line 1 of rfv after rfv -- using this line produces an strange bug on -- polygons of 8 sides. It puts letters instead of numbers in the last line set the style of the templategraphic to polygon create grc set the points of it to rfv -- set the rect of it to the rect of me -- lkjhg if the hilite of btn Put Points into Msg is true then put rfv choose browse tool end mouseUp Wilhelm Sanke, FB01 wrote: I conclude: I think it should be a relatively easy task for the programmers of Revolution (or Transcript, RevTalk etc.) to abolish the inconsistency of regular polygons of having different sizes for visual rects and their proper rects as a graphic. i agree. if you fill an enhancement request in the Runrev Quality Control Center, i will vote for it. Have a nice weekend. al -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-Challenge%3A-How-can-we-set-the-rect-of-a-polygon-to-its-visual-rect--%28and-a-tentative-solution%29-tp24988110p24989177.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Challenge: How can we set the rect of a polygon to its visual rect?
Hi Wilhelm, Take a look at the script of this stack, to check if some code is useful: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/mask_bitmap02.zip This version included the option to crop the image while masking. Wilhelm Sanke wrote: So again, does anybody know a way - or a workaround - to crop a regular graphic to the size of its visual rect? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Challenge%3A-How-can-we-set-the-rect-of-a-polygon-to-its-visual-rect--tp24974066p24981311.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revLet Visual Effect
Hi Kenji, In Windows XP, visual effects does not shows in the revWeb plug-in. All transitions are just like show and hide, ocurring instantly. Somehow, i suspect that this is related with screen redraw of plug-in inside the browser. Redrawing the plug-in area and processing mouse messages seems to have their share of problems. Notice that dragging any object inside a revlet shows a really sluggish response: (for example dragging a point to reshape a vector graphic inside this revlet: http://www.capellan2000.000space.com/test02.html) but movement controled by scripts works really fine. (for example, both Walking figures in revlet i posted, http://www.capellan2000.000space.com/test03.html and ball movements in Jim Hurley's pool game: NineBall) Check this by yourself, comparing these revlets in your browser http://www.capellan2000.000space.com/test01.html http://www.capellan2000.000space.com/test02.html http://www.capellan2000.000space.com/test03.html with the stacks running in the desktop: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/exportVector_v03.zip http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/newPentoolScript_v02.zip http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/walkingman_2.zip Revlets test01 and test02 ask for permission to use your disk, because they save or export a pdf, svg or adobe ilustrator file. (currently, these plain simple svg files open using Inkscape, not Firefox). alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/revLet-Visual-Effect-tp24953449p24958105.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN] RGB_CMYK revlet
hi all, Visit the page: http://capellan2000.000space.com/RGB_CMYK/test.html No warnings this time, because this revlet is only for visual display. Contains gif images with inks applied and four scrollbars to change the blendlevel of images. i build this stack, among many others, for my classes. This time, i rebuilt completely this stack with revMedia 4 and i get no more errors building the revlet. i just keep wondering why these errors appear while building the revlet... al -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-ANN--RGB_CMYK-revlet-tp24964138p24964138.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Transcript should be called Transcript
Actually, i liked the new logo and the change in language name. al -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Transcript-should-be-called-Transcript-tp24954696p24965084.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Vote to fix gif animation display in Windows
Hi all, Please, vote for bug 8208 http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=8208 RevMedia 4 display animated gifs with black trails, but this appears in Windows, not Mac OS X, not sure about Linux. This problem affect most of the commercial gif animations that actually uses this compression scheme for gif animations. Look at the top right corner of this screenshot. http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/Learn_Japanese_Syllabaries_error01.PNG If you could check this problem in Linux platforms and post a screenshot, download the stack from: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/Learn_Japanese_Syllabaries_v092.zip Thanks in advance. al -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Vote-to-fix-gif-animation-display-in-Windows-tp24900466p24900466.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [script optimization challenge] Multi dimensional array filtering
Hi Brian, There is a page in Wikibooks about Algorithm Implementation for Binary search: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Algorithm_implementation/Search/Binary_search Would you like to add your example under a new revTalk section? By the way, i find enlightening the facts exposed in the Wikipedia article about Binary Search: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_search_algorithm When Jon Bentley assigned it as a problem in a course for professional programmers, he found that an astounding ninety percent failed to code a binary search correctly after several hours of working on it[3], and another study shows that accurate code for it is only found in five out of twenty textbooks (Kruse, 1999). Furthermore, Bentley's own implementation of binary search, published in his 1986 book Programming Pearls, contains an error that remained undetected for over twenty years.[4] Undetected for Twenty years! Scary to say the least... :-( al Brian Yennie wrote: Here is a quick example of what binary search can do. It's a bit of work to maintain the sorted data, but the speed is impressive if you have very large data. [snip] -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-script-optimization-challenge--Multi-dimensional-array-filtering-tp24826774p24911591.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do you solve this dilemma?
Hi Judy, Many thanks for replying to my questions! Now i remember that you have already teach this platform in your classes. :-) Teachers that i have met in Courses, Seminaries and Workshops have the most diverse background and skills: Age: From 25 to 55 Subjects: Language (spanish, english), Math (elemental and advanced), Social Sciences (Economics, Education, Geography, History, Psychology) English language skills: From Basic to Advanced Coworkers in the Proyecto Entra 21: http://www.isa.edu.do/isaweb/entra21.html Age: From 30 to 50 Know how to use (and offer classes) of very specific Computer Software: (Excel, Word, Powerpoint, Photoshop, etc..) English language skills: From Basic to Advanced Ideally, these educational materials and user mail list and user forums should be hosted in runrev site, in many languages (translated by volunteers) so they will be always available from a central place. In theory, most of HyperCard teaching materials should be applicable to this platform, but this would require to adapt them for this new software. Have a nice weekend! al -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/How-do-you-solve-this-dilemma--tp24878034p24886376.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do you solve this dilemma?
Judy Perry wrote: What sorts of things would your colleagues like to be able to do with Rev? Actually, it will be better to show them by example: What you could do with Rev in your classes. (Now, i remember Mark Greenberg stacks) Already, i have show them templates for Multiple choice exams, Reading Tests and the kind of tests used in Moodle. Some have asked about SCORM compliance http://www.loaz.com/learning-objects/learning-object-standards-scorm.html and the avalability of training from the source like Adobe and Microsoft offer. (this seems really important and looks related to new requisites of training and actualization for teachers) Jacque, About the conferences, i will look for them for translating, as soon my workload return to normal. Many thanks for your help! al -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/How-do-you-solve-this-dilemma--tp24878034p24892045.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How do you solve this dilemma?
How do you solve this dilemma? For many years, i have been talking to my fellow teachers and coworkers about Runtime Revolution and how easy it is to create useful applications for their own use. Now, that Runrev have released the free Alpha version of revMedia, i have wrote to all of them about this new version. Many of them have answered positively and have started using revMedia. Great. But the dilemma arise when my friends started to ask me: My english is not very good. Could you teach me to use revMedia? Hmmm... Could they find me too impolite if i ask them to keep learning english? My time is limited by many factors, and i will like them to learn revTalk and revMedia. i have given them templates to personalise with their own text and images, but i know that these stacks will only keep them busy (and happy) for a while. What are their alternatives, besides counting on my incredibly shrinking free time, to learn revMedia? Could teachers expect that Runrev publish courses made exclusively for them, that shows, for example: 1-How to use revMedia in the classroom. 2-Teach software programing with revMedia. 3-Courses to license teachers in revMedia and revTalk (just like other vendors do with their platforms). i know that Marielle Lange and Judy Perry have raised these topics before, but the difference between now and then is the existence of a free version of revMedia that runs in all platforms. As time goes by, you will find more people doing these same questions (more frequently). have a nice weekend al -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/How-do-you-solve-this-dilemma--tp24878034p24878034.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Downloading messages from Runrev Forum
Hi all, Does exist some method to download all messages from Runrev forum, just like we could do with compressed mails in the Runrev list serve page? I find really useful the categorization of topics in the forum, but will prefer to browse these messages offline. Thanks in advance. al -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Downloading-messages-from-Runrev-Forum-tp24878037p24878037.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revlet and path
Hi Jacque, i noticed that you interpreted the error numbers that appear in the warnings. Where could i find this list of number error codes? Thanks in advance al J. Landman Gay wrote: Further to this discussion, this fails in a revlet run from a server: try put http://jacque.on-rev.com/testapp/teststack.rev; into tStack start using stack tStack put the stacksinuse catch tErr put tErr end try Fails with: 91,10,8 568,10,1 which is basically can't find stack and no such object. I get the same errors if I try to go to the stack first before putting it in use. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/revlet-and-path-tp24834214p24878043.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Stacks published on the Web
Hi Rick, Actually, if you have doubts about the security of running an application inside your web browser, you should contact the author with specific questions about the operation of this application. Look for example this example: http://capellan2000.000space.com/examen.html This is a test in spanish created by a friend of mine (using a template that i give him) for his computer classes. He told me that this test is largely unfinished and needs to correct ortography and the wording of selection items. I believe that he had to change his images to reduce the stack size and check in detail the importance of every question. But the point, about this exam is that when you enter the page, it ask for permissions to use the network and write files to your disk. Effectively, when you finish this (still incomplete) exam, the stack ask you to save the results in your hard disk. Ideally, the stack should be able to: 1) send the results directly to the teacher's mail from the stack, just like PHP or Perl scripts do... 2) write output to a file in the server, so user could download this file from the webpage... 3) write a record inside a database running in the server... 4) show the results in a field so user could copy and paste the results in a text file... and there should be other options that i am not aware of... or simply have forget. Stacks should be able to do their work without these warning dialogs. This weekend, i will apply some of these ideas to the stacks that i posted. In this way, there will be no warning when visitors enter the page. Have a nice weekend! al -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-ANN--Stacks-published-on-the-Web-tp24766085p24849244.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Digging Huge Files
Some months ago, i ask in this list about the limitation of reading files bigger than 2 gigabytes: http://www.nabble.com/Problem-parsing-data-in-Gigabyte-size-text-files-td11438677.html#a11469329 and in this message thread, Jackeline reported that this will be solved in next version: http://www.nabble.com/More---Read-File-at--2GB-Problem-td10764633.html#a10764633 Given that you are working with Gigabytes of log data, Could you check if these limitations of reading files bigger than 2 Gb still apply? Thanks in advance! al -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Digging-Huge-Files-tp24801658p24812997.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia 4 does not like my animated gifs (constantMask problem)
Hi Kurt, Could you post a screenshot of the main screen of the stack? Thanks in advance! al Kurt Kaufman wrote: Alejandro, I do not see the black trails you mention on Rev 4, Mac OS 10.5.7 (although since I do not know Japanese characters it took a while to earn an animation!). Kurt -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/RevMedia-4-does-not-like-my-animated-gifs-%28constantMask-problem%29-tp24750663p24757359.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevMedia 4 does not like my animated gifs (constantMask problem)
Well, Geocities is closing, so i will move my page to another free webserver. Kurt reported that animated gifs looks right on Mac OS X. How did this stack looks in Linux? Thanks in advance! al -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/RevMedia-4-does-not-like-my-animated-gifs-%28constantMask-problem%29-tp24749079p24757540.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Any thoughts on speed limitations of Revlet?
Hi Jim, This revlet works great inside the web browser. Now, i find suspicious that with the first shot i was able to sink 8 balls... twice in a row. :-D Keep up your great work! and thanks to Scott Rossi for lending his gifted hands to this revlet. al -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Any-thoughts-on-speed-limitations-of-Revlet--tp24654744p24737617.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Any thoughts on speed limitations of Revlet?
Hi Jim, This revlet works great inside the web browser. Now, i find suspicious that with the first shot i was able to sink 8 balls... twice in a row. :-D Keep up your great work! and thanks to Scott Rossi for lending his gifted hands to this revlet. al -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Any-thoughts-on-speed-limitations-of-Revlet--tp24654744p24737661.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Game update
Hi john. Where is your game in Rev Online? i was looking under the user name Jock_McTartan, but could not found this stack. Thanks in advance. al -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-ANN--Game-update-tp24246055p24261917.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Scrolling a Gigantic Text file in a field
Hi Richard, Andre and Craig! Thanks for answering my request. Probably the differences in my results are that the whole text of the Bible is only 4.24 MB and the Gigantic Text file is between 15 MB and 25 MB. i am sure that 4.24 MB or 25 MB are no problem if you are using a modern machine with the fastest processor and heaps of memory, but the stack on which i am working, should run fairly well in older machines too. Andre recomendation's is the solution that i remember was proposed in a previous discussion about this topic, but i could not found the messages in the archive. The difficult part was handling smoothly a field, acting like a small window for the bigger file, not too different from the way it works the program Large Text File Viewer: http://download.cnet.com/Large-Text-File-Viewer/3000-2379_4-90541.html Richard Gaskin wrote: DunbarX wrote: I understand that Rev does not like stacks with lots of cards, but this is the first I have heard it does not like fields with lots of chars. Is this so? I made a scrolling field with 100,000,000 random characters, and it seems to work fine (The thumb, no surprise, does not move overmuch while scrolling). But are other bg processes affected? My experience is like yours: I've put the whole Bible from Project Gutenberge into a field, and after an initial pause to buffer it I found it scrolled far more gracefully than in MS Word, TexEdit, or any other app I tried it in. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Revolution training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Scrolling-a-Gigantic-Text-file-in-a-field-tp24157264p24172903.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Scrolling a Gigantic Text file in a field
Hi Andre, Does text fields in HTML browsers have built-in specific routines to show and scroll smoothly big text files? How did you discover this? Thanks for the advice. i will check this option closely. Have a great day! alejandro Andre Garzia-3 wrote: Alejandro, There's another way if you're on a windows or mac. You can use RevBrowser to fake a field and have a runtime generated HTML in it. It would scroll with no problem at all. What about this? Cheers andre -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Scrolling-a-Gigantic-Text-file-in-a-field-tp24157264p24174127.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problem with linktext and html characters
Hi, Reading this thread in Nabble, i just noticed that some mailers interpreted the htmltext that was included in previous messages, rendering meaningless the htmltext strings discussed. So, if you want to read this message thread as was intended to be read, visit the Runrev mail archive and read the message in your web browser: http://mail.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2009-June/125040.html http://mail.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2009-June/125041.html http://mail.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2009-June/125043.html http://mail.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2009-June/125055.html Have a nice day! alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Problem-with-linktext-and-html-characters-tp23988071p24004566.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Interactive Fiction with Runtime Revolution
Hi, Luis, many thanks for these pointers with really useful information! :-) Thom, you made very good points that i should ponder. Many thanks for making available your iTunes Library Suite! :-D About web based Interactive Fiction, look at this fine example: http://www.questml.com/quests/static/legend/start.htm Andre, i have not Revolution Media or this template stack for creating interactive fiction games (like myst) but will be great to look a completed example of a game made with this template stack. Richard, many thanks for your kind words and i will like to be more experienced to create this kind of application in such way, that users could expand and enhance it without too much difficulty or intervention. This project require a well though roadmap with several realistic milestones and many brains well coordinated... Does anyone interested in creating this software could create such roadmap? The kind of challenges that i could foresee in this project: Should this software exports to html pages and other Interactive Fiction formats (like QML, Inform, TADS, etc...) or only work with Stacks? While i was investigating this topic, i noticed that some of the editors and players for these languages are Java and PHP based, so there is an oportunity for creating interpreters and editors in Runrev that could do the job using less resources with better user interface. Thanks again for your help! alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Interactive-Fiction-with-Runtime-Revolution-tp20462364p20494657.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Embedding fonts anomalies
hi Shari, i have not used this feature, but it is really mind opening to see, how developers use font embedding in their apps. Do you have a sample stack that show the approach that you described? Thanks in advance! alejandro Shari-2 wrote: Load several custom fonts. Create a heirarchy of first choice, second choice, etc. If firstChoice is in the fontNames then set the fields to it. Else move to secondChoice, thirdChoice, etc., ending with several fonts that should already be installed on user systems as a last resort. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Embedding-fonts-anomalies-tp20448453p20494711.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
MD4 Function translated from Director to Runrev
Hi all, Recently, i took a second look to MD4 digest in this stack: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/lingo_md4_digest.zip where i try to translate (without sucess) a Fast lingo implementation of the MD4 algorithm by Joni Huhmarniemi. Compare results with this javascript version: http://pajhome.org.uk/crypt/md5/ Every hint to help in the sucess of this process of translation, from Director to Runrev is welcome. Thanks in advance! alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/MD4-Function-translated-from-Director-to-Runrev-tp16224750p16224750.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: MD4 Function translated from Director to Runrev
Hi Richard, Richard Gaskin wrote: What are the advantages of MD4 over Rev's built-in MD5? MD4 is used by the rsync utility for synchronizing files and directories from one location to another while minimizing data transfer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rsync For some time, i have been interested in adding this kind of functionality to stacks used in this platform. Thanks a lot for your interest! alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/MD4-Function-translated-from-Director-to-Runrev-tp16224750p16227755.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LAME DLL for Rev?
Hi Devin, Some years ago, Bill Griffith of iGame3D released FMODforRev.dll for Mac and PC. Could this be what you are looking for? Devin Asay wrote: Does anyone know of a LAME library DLL that has been compiled to run as a Rev external? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/LAME-DLL-for-Rev--tp16224907p16230714.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: MD4 Function translated from Director to Runrev
Hi Mark, Many thanks for the advice! i will check openssl. Have a nice weekend. alejandro masmit wrote: Alejandro, if you have openssl installed on your computer, you can use it to do md4, md5, sha1 and others as shell calls. Having written a Revolution implementation of the sha1 digest, I think it's true to say that if you want to get the digest for whole files and stacks, this sort of digest function is likely to be very slow in a high-level language like Revolution, so you might be better off using the (very fast) openssl tools if you can. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/MD4-Function-translated-from-Director-to-Runrev-tp16224750p16231074.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] A Hardware wish...
Hi Phil, Phil Davis-5 wrote: A NAS device won't do it - at least not the ones I'm familiar with, but I haven't looked at them since I bought one a couple of years ago. Maybe they are smarter now. [snip] Jim Ault introduced me to StuffIt for automated backups (which I still don't use effectively, but...) StuffIt lets you schedule automatic, unattended backups of specific folders to FTP and .mac locations. Would that do it for you? It would run on your computer at night or whenever you tell it to. Ah, this is the keyphrase that i was looking for: unattended backups of specific folders to FTP If these backups could be done using Rsync, then this will be a lot faster. :-D If you want a separate piece of hardware to do the backup, I suppose you could put a cheap PC into your network DMZ and copy files to its StuffIt upload folder before you turn off your computer and go home at night. Yes, that will do the job. By the way, thinking about the imaginary USB device that i described will require it to run some embedded operating system, right? An OS in a USB stick, just like this: http://www.puppylinux.org/user/viewpage.php?page_id=3 Many thanks for your answer and useful pointers ! alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-OT--A-Hardware-wish...-tp16133914p16145965.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] A Hardware wish...
Hi all, Recently, while working in a teamwork project, the hard reality of having to download and upload (daily) many files of hundreds Megabytes to a remote server, keep me wishing for a faster connection or some clever and automatic way to handle these kind of data moving task after my daily work is finished. Thinking about an ideal and automatic way to download and upload these files, (without compromising the Workstation PCs), this is my question for this group: Does exist a pocket size device (that i could connect directly to a DSL modem, via USB or Ethernet) that could download or upload these big size files after i finish my work? i imagine something similar to an USB memory stick, that contains the files that i want to send and enough empty space to save the files that i should receive. This device manages a list of files for upload and download. I connect this device to the DSL modem in the night and when i return in the morning, all files have been received and send. Are Network Attached Storage devices, the actual hardware that closely resemble what i am looking for? Thanks in advance for your opinions and ideas. alejandro upload and download -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-OT--A-Hardware-wish...-tp16133914p16133914.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Multi-Browser pre-alpha test release
Hi Thomas, Here, in a Windows XP box, the web browsers works great. Tested with StackRunner 1.7, but does not work inside RR 2.8.1. Notice that web browser window have a fixed size, so it´s difficult to use in smaller screen sizes like 1024x768. alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-ANN--Multi-Browser-pre-alpha-test-release-tp15657282p15665987.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Multi-Browser pre-alpha test release
Hi Thomas, This new version works great in RR 2.8.1 and StackRunner 1.7 in Windows XP. When you publish a 1024x768 version, i will test all the features. Keep up your good Work! :-) alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-ANN--Multi-Browser-pre-alpha-test-release-tp15657282p15669629.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: md5
Hi Mark, This has been discussed before ;-) In 2005, september 25 Mark Waddingham wrote, in the message: put url some url into someVar... Mark Schonewille was trying to do something very similar a while ago and filed an enhancement request about being able to do md5 digests on large files *without* them needing to be loaded. For interest see here: http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=2410 As suggested (by me) in the bug-report, you needn't take the md5digest of the entire file at once and can do something like this instead: function quasiMD5 pFile local tMD5s open file pFile for binary read repeat read from file pFile for CHUNK_SIZE chars if the result is EOF then exit repeat end if put the md5digest of it after tMD5s end repeat close file pFile return the md5Digest of tMD5s end quasiMD5 Where you can make CHUNK_SIZE some suitable size (perhaps 256k/512k). [ My intuitive analysis of the impact of doing this on the integrity (i.e. potential for collision) of the digest is that it will be minimal - but perhaps someone more knowledgeable in this area could comment. ] Hope this helps, Mark Waddinham. Well, i do not try this code myself, but i am sure that no md5digest command line tool tries to load the whole Linux Installer image CD in memory to verify the file. Surely, they use an aproach similar to this suggested by Mark Waddingham. But there is only one thing to know for sure... What exact size are the chunks to process? alejandro masmit wrote: I need to get the md5 of potentially very large files on disc. I'm hoping to avoid having to load them into memory in order get the digest. Mark -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/md5-tp15536091p15618684.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Implementing rsync protocol and algorithms with RR apps
Hi all, (First, i wrote this message in 2005, so it´s worth repeating given the actual interest about RR stacks on the internet.) Have anyone given a try to implement rsync protocols and algorithms using only RR clients applications? http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/ http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/tech_report/ http://olstrans.sourceforge.net/release/OLS2000-rsync/OLS2000-rsync.html rsync allows to download only the parts that had changed in a stack, instead of the whole file. It's composed of a server and a client. The client sends the server a single string of information about the local file. This string is a series of digests of chunks of 1k of the local file. When server receives this string, it compares these digest with chunks of 1k of the file in the server and then just send back the parts that the client needs to recreate the file from the server, in the client's side. Thanks in advance! al -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Implementing-rsync-protocol-and-algorithms-with-RR-apps-tp15618701p15618701.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Archiving Eudora?
Hi Stephen, Eudora uses the mbox format, Right? On September 2006, i posted this message to this mail list: stack Mailbox Offline reader Hi all, This stack arises from the fact that i do not have internet in the place where i live actually and i like to read the messages from this list without downloading many yahoo html pages. i´m looking for testers and comments for this stack: Mailbox browser.rev to make it more useful and easy to understand. http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/Mailbox_browser.zip _http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/Mailbox_browser.zip_ This stack allows to read offline, the mailboxes from this and many maillist that uses the mbox format to store the messages. To test this stack, download the compressed stack and a mailbox gzipped file like: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2006-September.txt.gz _http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2006-September.txt.gz_ Decompress the stack and open it in Rev or any of the players. When you open the stack, you will noticed six tabs: Messages, Developers, date, Subject, words, update. Click at the tab named Update. you will notice a text field and four controls in the bottom of the card area. Click at the button named: Click this button to update... or Drag and drop a mailbox gzipped file to the field labeled: Drag and Drop here a compressed... Then, automatically an script will create a duplicate of the stack Mailbox Offline Reader and will insert in this copy (as custom properties) 1)the complete mailbox compressed as gzip 2)a gzip compressed Subject index 3)a Developers index 4)Date index 5)words index 6) and create other custom properties. Notice, in the process of creating this mailbox, the script ask that you choose one or two letters to identify the mailbox. Use R for Runrev or M for MetaCard mailboxes or E for education list... When the process of creating all these indexes is finished the stack is saved at the same location of the stack Mailbox Offline Reader using the extension .mdg , but remember it is still a stack that you could open from Revolution. Then, from this stack, you will be able to browse the post of the mailbox, by date, developer, subject, and words. In the first tab, Messages, you could use the right click button to get a contextual menu to copy text, and find it in the indexes. In the other tabs: developers, subjects date and words, you had to Right click on the line to activate the script that displays the messages. The code is open to see, feel free to post your own enhancement to this list, or send them to my email. Thanks to Chipp Walters for his stack altFldHeader and Alex Tweedley for his script to parse Mailboxes. Have a nice day. alejandro on Wednesday, 13 February 2008 Stephen Barncard wrote: there was someone on this list who stated that they had or were working on or had completed an archiving tool to parse out all the Eudora files and create a CSV list. Yes, I know I could make one, I've done Eudora email parsing before in HC, but if an app has already been done, it would be worth it. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Archiving-Eudora--tp15463948p15469849.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Minimize Custom shaped stacks
Hi all, i have posted a bug report on this: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=5864 Please vote if this problem affect your applications. Thanks in advance! alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Minimize-Custom-shaped-stacks-tp15412771p15412771.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Minimize Custom shaped stacks
Hi all, i have posted a bug report on this: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=5864 Please vote if this problem affect your applications. Thanks in advance! alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Minimize-Custom-shaped-stacks-tp15412766p15412766.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Minimize Custom shaped stacks
Hi all, Recently i was adding a Minimize button to a custom shaped stack, and to my surprise, the stack does not minimize at all, but moves near to the bottom of the screen where only a small portion of the top is visible. To maximize the stack, i just have to do is double click on the visible portion of the stack. Is this the normal behavior of minimized custom shaped stacks? I hoped that the minimized stack show a button in the bar, like toplevel stacks do. Any insight to correct this behavior is welcome. Thanks in advance alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Minimize-Custom-shaped-stacks-tp15380763p15380763.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Runrev handling of imported bitmaps
Hi all, Recently i was creating a simple stack image library utility to reuse images multiple times in a stack. The result is unworthy to post in this mail list, but it opened many questions: How could i recreate the changes in dimensions, ink-effects rotations, flipping, etc for all the images used in a card, taken from a library stack? For example, Xara X1 has a “zero-memory footprint” approach in which each new image copy requires no additional memory or file space. Every transformation to any image is redraw at runtime, so Xara X1 just keep one original image and in every instance where the image appears, it is transformed starting from the single untouched original image. One single image reused multiple times with any kind of transformations applied to them. For example, i will like to apply many different ink effects to instances of a single image and make a composition with these parts. Is this somehow possible in Runrev? Notice, i know that this is possible with multiple copies of the images, but i look for economy of size of the stack. Thanks in advance! alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Runrev-handling-of-imported-bitmaps-tf4728814.html#a13521479 Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Export to pdf
Hi Marty, i noticed that you asked for a download link to the most recent version of the stack Vector to PDF: http://aulasdigitales.net/exportVector_v02c.zip Previous versions: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/vector2pdf_v02b.zip http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/vector2pdf_v02.zip http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/vector2pdf.zip Searching in this mail list archives, i noticed that Monte Goulding and Jean Baptiste (JBV) had worked with PDF too. http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2003-January/012360.html About the method that this stack uses to export vector graphics to pdf format, here is a quick recipe: Use a PDF template that it's filled with the data created from the vector graphics, images or text. I created this template examining several empty pdf created from diferent apps and reading the Adobe PDF file format specifications. This template is a small text file stored as a custom property of the stack. (In fact there are 3 templates, one for Adobe ilustrator, two for PDF) To create the data of every graphic, you could use a repeat for each structure and a switch case handler to create the pdf/illustrator code for every type of graphic: oval, rectangle, line, polygonal, curve, etc. In RR, a vector oval graphic has height and width, but in PDF/AI, a graphic shaped as an oval, has 4 consecutive bezier lines that recreate the shape. (SVG and recent versions of PDF file format allow to define ovals and rectangles in different way) Every type of graphic requires specific code for this task. Look at the diferences between the code to convert an oval and a rectangle graphic. After you have all vector data in a variable, insert this data in the PDF template: marked as in: stream endstream or in the Adobe Ilustrator template: 0 XR * LB Write the additional data that PDF format require, like offsets of the beginning of each section in the document trailer and (this is important for PDF format) replace all carriage return with linefeeds. Adobe Ilustrator format does not require offsets and trailer, so it's easier to write, test and debug. alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Export-to-pdf-t1185078.html#a3164272 Sent from the Revolution - User forum at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] HOOT: Hacked Object Oriented Transcript
Hi Geoff, This Hacked Object oriented Transcript reads like an extraordinarily useful addition to the techniques available in this platform. In this platform, i've played mostly with vector graphics. With the stack PenTool, i'm able to create individual vector graphics, but latter when these graphics are grouped is problematic to apply any transformation to this group (transformations like Scale, Rotate, Slant, Flip, fill and line color changes, line weight change, etc). Do you think that this handler could help me with this task? If your answer is positive, then How difficult could be to create a group (with multiple vector graphics) that works as a single gradient vector graphic object? This Gradient vector graphic group needs to keep constant his color attributes when transformed. For example, if you slant, scale, rotate, change shape, etc, the color should keep the style of a gradient, not become distorted. It's possible at all? Thanks for sharing your work! Keep up your good work. alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-ANN-HOOT%3A-Hacked-Object-Oriented-Transcript-t1192812.html#a3154339 Sent from the Revolution - User forum at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Weather Widget
Hi Scott, Excellent widget! You had raised the bar again. :-) Now, Do you know what could be really useful? an installable widget player, like that from Yahoo. :D If some of you is ready for releasing a multiplatform Widget engine, i have already some widgets ideas, that could start working this week! Thanks a lot for sharing. Keep Up your good work! alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Weather-Widget-t1192310.html#a3154697 Sent from the Revolution - User forum at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Export to pdf
Hi Marty, Actually it's not too difficult. Just require time to code, test and fix. Look at these references about the PDF file format: PDF v 1.2 http://www.baw.de/vip/abteilungen/wbk/Publikationen/docs/pdfspec.pdf PDF v 1.3 to v 1.6 (Directly from Adobe) http://partners.adobe.com/public/developer/pdf/index_reference.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Document_Format i could not find the PDF spec v1.1 This was a short reference (compared with later editions) very easy to read and understand. I'll be grateful if developers, could point me to a functional link in the web to this old pdf specification. Have a nice day! alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Export-to-pdf-t1185078.html#a3155958 Sent from the Revolution - User forum at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Export to pdf
Hi Marty, i have made a stack to export vectors to pdf. It is possible to create a stack that export text to pdf. Roger Eller sent me this stack long time ago. Now, the missing piece is exporting bitmap images to pdf. Who have the time to solve this task? alejandro -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Export-to-pdf-t1185078.html#a3129803 Sent from the Revolution - User forum at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: getExif
Hi UDI, Could you include some sample images with this stack? i tried without sucess to read exif data in these images from these websites: _http://www.exif.org/samples/_ _http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/fuji/finepix_s9000-review/gallery.shtml_ Thanks in advance and Thanks a lot again for sharing your Midi stacks! Keep up your good work! :-) al -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/getExif-t881905.html#a2293853 Sent from the Revolution - User forum at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Ann] Adventure Game Graphics
Hi Judy, i believe that this Contest is for users of 3D graphic software, that are able to create these kind of Myst-like stills of 3D environments from renderings of their work in any platform. Hope to see the final entries of many of them in this Contest. :-D alejandro -- Sent from the Revolution - User forum at Nabble.com: http://www.nabble.com/-Ann-Adventure-Game-Graphics-t797935.html#a2092429 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: MIDI Files
Hi Scott, you could visit Hugh Senior's website: and download the file: UDI, an extraordinary japanese programmer, published many stacks to play Midi files using notation similar to HyperCard. al -- Sent from the Revolution - User forum at Nabble.com: http://www.nabble.com/MIDI-Files-t718204.html#a1891174 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Recent Development on the Use-List
Hi all, What do you think about the educational model used by Alias (now an AutoDesk company) From their webpage: - Maya Personal Learning Edition is a special version of Maya® software, which provides free access to Maya for non-commercial use. It gives 3D graphics and animation students, industry professionals, and those interested in breaking into the world of computer graphics (CG) an opportunity to explore all aspects of the award-winning Maya Complete software in a non-commercial capacity. Available for Windows® 2000/XP Professional and Mac® OS X operating systems. The Maya Personal Learning Edition restricts users to non-commercial applications through the display of a watermark on images as well as through the use of a special non-commercial file format. One of Alias' strengths besides the Maya Software is its online community. It's huge. I professional and very entushiastic about pushing the boundaries. Using Maya is more a lifestyle than a job. (This statement reflects exactly, what many had already said in this Developers mail list) Did you read this? Maya Learning Edition saves files in their own format, that could not be opened from a Commercial version of Maya. Rev could do the same change of file format, with a Free educational version. What do you think about this? al -- Sent from the Revolution - User forum at Nabble.com: http://www.nabble.com/Recent-Development-on-the-Use-List-t719292.html#a1891562 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why is Konfabulator 'Pretty?'
Marielle Lange wrote: Dreamcard is presented as something that persons with lack of experience with other development environments can come to grip with. Apparently, it doesn't work that well. Beginners often complain on this list or elswhere (see , a mailing list for dreamcard users or beginners in general) about the fact that it is not that easy to get to grip with this new environment. That's because this gap that you are noticing was filled long time ago by a lot of HyperCard books. In January i asked in this list: WHY don't we ask to the 212 authors of HyperCard books to update their books for this platform?... and WHY do not ask developers in this list to collaborate in writing a book on RunRev? Actually, some newbie developers find these HyperCard books very useful to help them started with Transcript: and many more... even Dan Shafer, the first RunRev specific book author recommend them: and guess what... These same HyperTalk books, are part of the bookshelf of most Professional Developers in this list. Even SuperCard developers use them...Interesting. Don't you think? Scott Raney recommended to buy the XCMD's book written for HyperCard...so What's next? Buy these books and adapt them to your needs. i had buy this book written by Gary Bond about xcmd programming: Just US$ 1.08 from Hippo Books. i receive it next week. :-) Want to buy this too: Applied HyperCard: Developing and Marketing Superior Stackware by Jerry Daniels, Mary Jane Mara al -- Sent from the Revolution - User forum at Nabble.com: http://www.nabble.com/Why-isn%27t-Rev-more-popular--t649860.html#a1892619 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RE: MIDI Files
Hi Scott, Looks like the URL's posted were hidden somehow. Let's try again: you could visit Hugh Senior's website: _http://www.flexiblelearning.com/xtalk.htm_ _http://www.flexiblelearning.com/xtalk/mci_in_3_steps/mcisendstring3steps.htm_ and download the file: _http://www.flexiblelearning.com/xtalk/mci_in_3_steps/mciMIDI.zip_ UDI, an extraordinary japanese programmer, published many stacks to play Midi files using notation similar to HyperCard. _http://homepage.mac.com/udi/stack/tool.html_ al -- Sent from the Revolution - User forum at Nabble.com: http://www.nabble.com/MIDI-Files-t718204.html#a1893361 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Into the flamefest
On Dec 6, 2005, at 9:34 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: I am rebuilding my homepage and there'll be a section on my Application Framework or Paradigm called Alfred that is the stack controlling everything I said on top. Alfred.. Like the Batman's Majordomo, Alfred Pennyworth? :-)) -- Sent from the Revolution - User forum at Nabble.com: http://www.nabble.com/Into-the-flamefest-t685060.html#a1841569 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do i check for an internet connection?
Hi Kurt, I don't remember who to thank for this one, which I modified only slightly: Dar Scott published this code in march 2002: local testSock on mouseUp put 255.255.255.255:43222 into testSock open datagram socket to testSock -- opens immediately on Win2K put hostAddress(testSock) into field Local IP Address close socket testSock end mouseUp -- Sent from the Revolution - User forum at Nabble.com: http://www.nabble.com/How-do-i-check-for-an-internet-connection--t691676.html#a1841795 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
