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Jim,

That is interesting! How would I script this using preOpenCard?

Charles Szasz
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On Nov 3, 2010, at 5:40 PM, Jim Ault [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

 You might try   preOpenCard 
 which is sent before the user see the card being opened. 
 
 
 On Nov 3, 2010, at 1:56 PM, [hidden email] wrote: 
 
  Charles. 
  
  I see. So might you simply put an opencard handler into the script   
  of your 
  special card, sending the user to the next marked card unless some   
  property 
  was set? 
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Re: Skipping a mark card


Craig,

Thanks! I will try your script little later today.

Charles Szasz
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On Nov 4, 2010, at 10:27 AM, dunbarx [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

 Charles: 
 
 Just one possible way: 
 
 on preOpenCard 
if the yourSpecialProperty of this stack is skip then go next marked 
 card 
 end preOpenCard 
 
 You would create the custom property for the stack, and set it to skip or 
 empty depending on what you want to do. 
 
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Re: Skipping a mark card


Jim,

Thanks! I will try your script little later today.

Charles Szasz
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On Nov 4, 2010, at 10:38 AM, Jim Ault [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

 (untested, but might work) 
 
 In the stack script 
 
 on preopencard 
 if the number of marked cards is the number of cards then 
   answer All cards are marked 
 else 
if the marked of this card is true then go next card 
 end if 
 end preopencard 
 
 
 On Nov 4, 2010, at 7:27 AM, [hidden email] wrote: 
 
  Charles: 
  
  Just one possible way: 
  
  on preOpenCard 
if the yourSpecialProperty of this stack is skip then go next   
  marked 
  card 
  end preOpenCard 
  
  You would create the custom property for the stack, and set it to   
  skip or 
  empty depending on what you want to do. 
  
  Craig 
  In a message dated 11/4/10 10:09:32 AM, [hidden email] writes: 
  
  
  
  That is interesting! How would I script this using preOpenCard? 
 
 
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What is wrong with this script?


I am trying to use the following in another handler to send a mouseUp to
hilited checkboxes on marked cards but it does not work. Any suggestions?

on doStuff3
   put the num of this card into tStartCard
   lock screen
   repeat with y = 1 to the number of cards
  if the mark of card y  true then
 next repeat
  end if
  lock messages
  go card y  
  unlock messages
  repeat with b = 1 to the number of buttons
 if the style of button b = checkbox then
if the hilite of button b = true then
   send mouseUp to button b
end if
 end if
  end repeat
   end repeat
   lock messages
   go card tStartCard
   unlock messages
   unlock screen
end doStuff3
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Re: What is wrong with this script?


Craig,

Yes I got it to work on a test stack that I was working with. A typo was the 
culprit.

Charles Szasz
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On Nov 4, 2010, at 7:01 PM, dunbarx [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

 It does work. It's a bit wordy, but works fine. 
 
 If you have these buttons in a background, you do have the sharedHilite set 
 to false, right? This would matter. 
 
 So what doesn't work? 
 
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Re: What is wrong with this script?


Craig,

Thanks for that suggestion! I will indeed try it out. I did find some glitches 
with my posted script in my actual project. The script did not seem to work as 
well when I had grouped some checkboxes so that I could show an alert message 
when none checkboxes had been checked in the group. 

Charles Szasz
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On Nov 4, 2010, at 7:31 PM, dunbarx [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

 Charles. 
 
 Good. This never happens to me. 
 
 Your script can be shortened, and sped up, a bit. Watch line wraps: 
 
 on doStuff3 
 repeat with y = 1 to the number of marked cards 
repeat with b = 1 to the number of buttons of marked cd y 
   if the style of button b of marked cd y = checkbox and the 
 hilite of button b of marked cd y = true then 
 send mouseUp to button b 
  end if 
end repeat 
 end repeat 
 end doStuff3 
 
 The important thing here is to see that the references to remote cards can 
 substitute for actually going there. Sometimes navigating is better; usually 
 not. So you never actually have to go to each card.   You don't have to 
 lock anything, or save your location and return. 
 
 By using the mark property, you don't need to test to see if a card is 
 marked. 
 
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Re: What is wrong with this script?


Craig,

Your script not only worked faster but it was also worked better with the 
grouped checkboxes than my script. Thanks!!!

Charles Szasz
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On Nov 4, 2010, at 7:31 PM, dunbarx [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

 Charles. 
 
 Good. This never happens to me. 
 
 Your script can be shortened, and sped up, a bit. Watch line wraps: 
 
 on doStuff3 
 repeat with y = 1 to the number of marked cards 
repeat with b = 1 to the number of buttons of marked cd y 
   if the style of button b of marked cd y = checkbox and the 
 hilite of button b of marked cd y = true then 
 send mouseUp to button b 
  end if 
end repeat 
 end repeat 
 end doStuff3 
 
 The important thing here is to see that the references to remote cards can 
 substitute for actually going there. Sometimes navigating is better; usually 
 not. So you never actually have to go to each card.   You don't have to 
 lock anything, or save your location and return. 
 
 By using the mark property, you don't need to test to see if a card is 
 marked. 
 
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Re: What is wrong with this script?


Craig,

Your script the first time but I got an error the second time I tried printing 
saying;

flagging the line end mouseUp to button b

and reporting the error message:

button Print; execution error at line 287 (Chunk: no such object) near 27, 
char 31

I went to line 27 which had the code: answer information Please enter the 
date. 

I typed in your suggestion - no copy and paste because of the line breaks:


on doStuff3
   ---Sends mouseUp to checkboxes that are checked on marked cards
   repeat with y = 1 to the number of marked cards
  repeat with b = 1 to the number of buttons of marked card y
 if the style of button b of marked card y = checkbox and the hilite 
of button b of marked card y = true then
   send mouseUp to button b
end if
  end repeat
   end repeat
end doStuff3

Any idea of what is going on here?

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com




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 Charles. 
 
 Good. This never happens to me. 
 
 Your script can be shortened, and sped up, a bit. Watch line wraps: 
 
 on doStuff3 
 repeat with y = 1 to the number of marked cards 
repeat with b = 1 to the number of buttons of marked cd y 
   if the style of button b of marked cd y = checkbox and the 
 hilite of button b of marked cd y = true then 
 send mouseUp to button b 
  end if 
end repeat 
 end repeat 
 end doStuff3 
 
 The important thing here is to see that the references to remote cards can 
 substitute for actually going there. Sometimes navigating is better; usually 
 not. So you never actually have to go to each card.   You don't have to 
 lock anything, or save your location and return. 
 
 By using the mark property, you don't need to test to see if a card is 
 marked. 
 
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Re: What is wrong with this script?


Crag,

I checked and rechecked the script but there were no typos or spaces. I ran the 
script several more times and got a dialog message:

The handler: mouseUp has reached the recursion limit of: 40. Execution will 
be terminated to prevent hang.

i have never gotten this message before!

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com




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 Charles. 
 
 Good. This never happens to me. 
 
 Your script can be shortened, and sped up, a bit. Watch line wraps: 
 
 on doStuff3 
 repeat with y = 1 to the number of marked cards 
repeat with b = 1 to the number of buttons of marked cd y 
   if the style of button b of marked cd y = checkbox and the 
 hilite of button b of marked cd y = true then 
 send mouseUp to button b 
  end if 
end repeat 
 end repeat 
 end doStuff3 
 
 The important thing here is to see that the references to remote cards can 
 substitute for actually going there. Sometimes navigating is better; usually 
 not. So you never actually have to go to each card.   You don't have to 
 lock anything, or save your location and return. 
 
 By using the mark property, you don't need to test to see if a card is 
 marked. 
 
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Re: What is wrong with this script?


Craig,

I should mention that the recursive message came after I discovered that I left 
out the following:

of marked card y for the first part of if the style of button b


on doStuff3
   ---Sends mouseUp to checkboxes that are checked on marked cards
   repeat with y = 1 to the number of marked cards
  repeat with b = 1 to the number of buttons of marked card y
 if the style of button b = checkbox and the hilite of button b of 
marked card y = true then
   send mouseUp to button b
end if
  end repeat
   end repeat

When I of marked card y, the script that looks like the following caused the 
printing to hang and I had to force quit Rev 4.0 and relaunch Rev.

So this script is the one that is causing Rev to hang:
on doStuff3
   ---Sends mouseUp to checkboxes that are checked on marked cards
   repeat with y = 1 to the number of marked cards
  repeat with b = 1 to the number of buttons of marked card y
 if the style of button b of marked card y = checkbox and the hilite 
of button b of marked card y = true then
   send mouseUp to button b
end if
  end repeat
   end repeat



Charles Szasz
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On Nov 4, 2010, at 7:31 PM, dunbarx [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

 Charles. 
 
 Good. This never happens to me. 
 
 Your script can be shortened, and sped up, a bit. Watch line wraps: 
 
 on doStuff3 
 repeat with y = 1 to the number of marked cards 
repeat with b = 1 to the number of buttons of marked cd y 
   if the style of button b of marked cd y = checkbox and the 
 hilite of button b of marked cd y = true then 
 send mouseUp to button b 
  end if 
end repeat 
 end repeat 
 end doStuff3 
 
 The important thing here is to see that the references to remote cards can 
 substitute for actually going there. Sometimes navigating is better; usually 
 not. So you never actually have to go to each card.   You don't have to 
 lock anything, or save your location and return. 
 
 By using the mark property, you don't need to test to see if a card is 
 marked. 
 
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Re: What is wrong with this script?


Jacqueline,

I am using the handler to send mouseUp commands to Print Only cards for 
printing. I will try your suggestion of combing two commands in a handler. And, 
yes I did try command period several times without success.

Charles Szasz
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On Nov 4, 2010, at 9:23 PM, J. Landman Gay [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

 On 11/4/10 7:55 PM, charles61 wrote: 
 
  When I of marked card y, the script that looks like the following 
  caused the printing to hang and I had to force quit Rev 4.0 and 
  relaunch Rev. 
 
 This, plus the recursion error you got, likely indicates that your 
 scripts are going in circles without a way to complete. What does your 
 mouseUp handler do exactly? If it calls a different handler, which in 
 turn calls the mouseUp again, then your script will loop between the two 
 handlers until eventually you get the error, or it looks like you hung. 
 (Did you try command-period to stop the scripts?) 
 
 Usually it's better not to call system messages if possible. Instead of 
 sending a mouseup to a button, send a custom handler name instead. Then 
 have your mouseUp handler call that same custom handler. For example, if 
 you have this: 
 
 on mouseUp 
commandOne 
commandTwo 
 end mouseUp 
 
 Instead, do this: 
 
 on mouseUp 
   doStuff 
 end mouseUp 
 
 on doStuff 
commandOne 
commandTwo 
 end doStuff 
 
 Now your looping reset script can send doStuff to each button instead 
 of sending mouseUp to it. In fact, all your handlers that need to do 
 the mouseUp button stuff should be sending doStuff instead. 
 
 
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Skipping a mark card


I have a project that uses marked cards to navigate them. Aside from
unmarking a card, is there a way to skip a mark card when you are using a
script (go to next marked card) to go to marked cards?
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Re: Skipping a mark card


Richmond,

Thanks for your humor!

Charles Szasz
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On Nov 3, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Richmond Mathewson-2 [via Runtime Revolution] 
wrote:

   'Skipping the difficult bits' is a well-documented sport, as well as 
 'Jumping to conclusions' 
 and 'Running a temperature': 
 
 http://openlibrary.org/books/OL2875493M/Alice_through_the_needle's_eye
 
 So 'Skipping a marked card' is an extremely SHARP thing to do; mind you 
 I don't 
 how much money I would plonk down on the table if I knew my opponent 
 was using marked cards . . .  :) 
 
 On 11/3/10 3:48 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
 
  Do you always want to do this, to always go to the following marked card? 
  In other words, to always go to the second marked card during any 
  navigation? 
  
  If so, why not just lock the screen, go to the next marked card, and then 
  go to the next marked card? 
  
  It seems like an odd way to get around, though. I am missing something. 
  
  Craig Newman 
  
  In a message dated 11/3/10 8:46:17 AM, [hidden email] writes: 
  
  
  I have a project that uses marked cards to navigate them. Aside from 
  unmarking a card, is there a way to skip a mark card when you are using a 
  script (go to next marked card) to go to marked cards? 
  
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Re: Skipping a mark card

Hi Craig,

I have a special marked card that is always marked. This because I also want it
to be included when a text file is saved. I only want the special card to be
accessible via a button.

In addition, I have other marked cards that the user has access to while using
my application. I use the marked cards for the user to go from one marked card
to others that are marked. I also use marked cards for printing. So, the
special marked card is always saved even if it is empty. This special marked
card is reserved for the user when a certain type of meeting is needed. When
the user clicks on a button to go to this special card, the user can fill it
out and print it. Then save it along with the other marked cards.

Charles Szasz
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On Nov 3, 2010, at 9:48 AM, dunbarx [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

Do you always want to do this, to always go to the following marked card?
In other words, to always go to the second marked card during any navigation?

If so, why not just lock the screen, go to the next marked card, and then
go to the next marked card?

It seems like an odd way to get around, though. I am missing something.

Craig Newman

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I have a project that uses marked cards to navigate them. Aside from
unmarking a card, is there a way to skip a mark card when you are using a
script (go to next marked card) to go to marked cards?

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Re: Skipping a mark card

Craig,

I found that by checking the Find Command ignores box of the special marked
card that I don't want the user to access using the marked command works! But
this card has to be the last marked card in the stack to work.

When the user is on the next to last marked card and clicks on a navigation
button to go to next marked card, the button does nothing. But on other marked
cards it works. So this keeps the user from accessing the special marked card
using navigation buttons.

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com

On Nov 3, 2010, at 9:48 AM, dunbarx [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

Do you always want to do this, to always go to the following marked card?
In other words, to always go to the second marked card during any navigation?

If so, why not just lock the screen, go to the next marked card, and then
go to the next marked card?

It seems like an odd way to get around, though. I am missing something.

Craig Newman

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I have a project that uses marked cards to navigate them. Aside from
unmarking a card, is there a way to skip a mark card when you are using a
script (go to next marked card) to go to marked cards?

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Re: Skipping a mark card


Craig,

I forgot to add that I had to use the following script in my navigation button 
in addition to checking the Find Command ignores box of the special marked card:

on mouseUp
   if  dontSearch of next marked card = false 
   then
  go next marked card
   end if
end mouseUp

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 Do you always want to do this, to always go to the following marked card? 
 In other words, to always go to the second marked card during any navigation? 
 
 If so, why not just lock the screen, go to the next marked card, and then 
 go to the next marked card? 
 
 It seems like an odd way to get around, though. I am missing something. 
 
 Craig Newman 
 
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Re: Underscore in script for windows?

2010-11-01 Thread charles61


Ken,

Thanks very much!

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  I am using the following script to open a text file for both windows and 
  Macintosh. My question is do I need two separate scripts one for the Mac 
  and 
  one for for Windows (XP, Vista, Windows 7) with a space instead of an 
  underscore?  For example /S504_Student for /S504 Student for Windows. 
  
  if the_selection is 1 
 then 
answer file Open Student file: with specialFolderPath(documents) 
   
  /S504 Student 
 
 No, that should work on all platforms you mentioned. 
 
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Underscore in script for windows?

2010-10-28 Thread charles61


I am using the following script to open a text file for both windows and
Macintosh. My question is do I need two separate scripts one for the Mac and
one for for Windows (XP, Vista, Windows 7) with a space instead of an
underscore?  For example /S504_Student for /S504 Student for Windows.

if the_selection is 1 
   then
  answer file Open Student file: with specialFolderPath(documents) 
/S504 Student
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Close File question


I have the name and location of a file in a variable, gOpenDataFile. For
example: 
/Users/cszasz/Documents/School Personnel/Tom Jones.txt

Can I use the following: Put empty into gOpenDataFile to close a file? The
reason I ask is that I have been unable to use the Close File command to
close files.
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Re: Close File question

Hi Mark,

This is the script that I have tried using the close command for Don't Save.
I tried the following which did not work in the script below:
Close file file: gOpenDataFile

case New Student Referral
go to card referral

if field first of card referral is not empty then --- Name field is
not empty.
if gOpenDataFile is not empty then --- A saved file is open.
set the itemDel to /
put item -1 of gOpenDataFile into tFileName
answer warning Save changes to tFileName ? with Don't
Save or Cancel or Save titled Save File

---answer warning Save changes to: with Don't Save or Cancel
or Save titled Save File?
---Your changes will be lost if you do not save them.

if it = Don't Save then close file file: gOpenDataFile --New
10-25-10: Close file

Charles Szasz
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Charles,

No, you must use the close file command.
What makes you think you're unable to do so?
You could also use get URL or put URL instead of open-read/write-close.

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On 26 okt 2010, at 17:29, charles61 wrote:

I have the name and location of a file in a variable, gOpenDataFile. For
example:
/Users/cszasz/Documents/School Personnel/Tom Jones.txt

Can I use the following: Put empty into gOpenDataFile to close a file? The
reason I ask is that I have been unable to use the Close File command to
close files.

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Re: Close File question

Mark,

I also tried the following which did not work. Any suggestions?

close file URL (file: gOpenDataFile)

Charles Szasz
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On Oct 26, 2010, at 11:33 AM, Mark Schonewille-3 [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

Charles,

No, you must use the close file command.
What makes you think you're unable to do so?
You could also use get URL or put URL instead of open-read/write-close.

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On 26 okt 2010, at 17:29, charles61 wrote:

I have the name and location of a file in a variable, gOpenDataFile. For
example:
/Users/cszasz/Documents/School Personnel/Tom Jones.txt

Can I use the following: Put empty into gOpenDataFile to close a file? The
reason I ask is that I have been unable to use the Close File command to
close files.

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Re: Close File question


Mark,

Thanks for your suggestions!

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com




On Oct 26, 2010, at 12:07 PM, Mark Schonewille-3 [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

 Hi Charles, 
 
 You use EITHER 
 
 open file gOpenDataFile 
 read from/write to file gOpenDataFile 
 close file gOpenDataFile 
 
 OR 
 
 put/get URL (file:  gOpenDataFile) 
 
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 On 26 okt 2010, at 18:00, charles61 wrote: 
 
  
  Mark, 
  
  I also tried the following which did not work. Any suggestions? 
  
  close file URL (file:  gOpenDataFile) 
  
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Re: Close File question

Bob,

I thought that I was using the full filePath (/Users/cszasz/Documents/S504
School Personnel/Tom Jones.txt)! And how do you use a literal in closing a file?

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com

On Oct 26, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Bob Sneidar-2 [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

Charles, try using the full path to the file. I noticed you are using a
relative path. Not sure if that makes a difference but give it a shot. Also
try closing the file using a literal, that is using the value and not the
variable.

Bob

On Oct 26, 2010, at 8:29 AM, charles61 wrote:

I have the name and location of a file in a variable, gOpenDataFile. For
example:
/Users/cszasz/Documents/School Personnel/Tom Jones.txt

Can I use the following: Put empty into gOpenDataFile to close a file? The
reason I ask is that I have been unable to use the Close File command to
close files.
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Need help with this script...

2010-10-25 Thread charles61


I have the following script where the user is given the option of not saving
a new file, canceling, or saving it. The problem is that when the I select
New in the File dialog the dialog with the three options does not appear and
the fields in the open file are cleared out.

 switch pWhich
  global gOpenDataFile  ---Used to set the name of the file in a Save
Dialog
  
   case New Student Referral
  go to card referral  
  
  if field first of card referral is not empty then --- Name field
is not empty  a saved file is open.
 if gOpenDataFile is not empty then
set the itemDel to /
put item -1 of gOpenDataFile into tFileName
answer warning Save changes to   tFileName ? with Don't
Save or Cancel or Save titled Save File

if it = Don't Save then close file file:  gOpenDataFile
specialFolderPath(documents)  /Student 
put empty into gOpenDataFile
unmark all cards
set the mark of card referral to true

if it = Cancel then exit to top ---Stop saving a new referral

else if it =Save then
   
   IF the platform is MacOS 
   THEN
  put specialFolderPath(documents)  /Student into
tNewFolder
   end if
   
   IF the platform is win32 
   THEN 
  put specialFolderPath(documents)  /Student into
tNewFolder
   end if
   
   if there is not a folder tNewFolder then
  create folder tNewFolder
   end if
   
   ask file Save Student file as:  with (tNewFolder 
/untitled.txt)
   
   put it into tSaveFile
   put it into gOpenDataFile
   
   put empty into tAllData
   repeat with x= 1 to the number of cards
  if the mark of card x is true then
 put the short name of card x into tCardName
 put *  cr  tCardName  cr  * 
cr after tAllData
 put gatherData(tCardName)  cr after tAllData
  end if
   end repeat
   put tAllData into URL (file:  gOpenDataFile)
   
   if the result is not empty then  --- Stop here if the file
didn't save
  answer error There was a problem saving the current data
file.
  exit to top
   end if
end if
 end if
  end if
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Re: Progress bar with lock?

2010-10-22 Thread charles61

Hugh,

Thanks for this suggestion! I will give it a try.

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com

On Oct 22, 2010, at 3:26 AM, FlexibleLearning-2 [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

Hi Charles,

According to the Scripter's Scrapbook:

A useful tip for displaying a modal that will not block, for example, a
progress indicator.

The secret to having a modal dialog that you can update is this:

go invisible stack MyModal as modal
set visible of me to true

By opening the stack as invisible your scripts won't halt but you will
display a modal dialog.

Hugh Senior
FLCo

Charles wrote:
I have an app that I am working on that takes a few seconds to clear fields,
reset radio buttons and checkboxes before it goes to the second card. During
this time, the screen is locked. I wanted to show a progress bar during this
process is going on. Is there anyway to show a progress bar while the screen
is locked? Is there a way to fake a progress bar while the screen is locked?
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Progress bar with lock?


I have an app that I am working on that takes a few seconds to clear fields,
reset radio buttons and checkboxes before it goes to the second card. During
this time, the screen is locked. I wanted to show a progress bar during this
process is going on. Is there anyway to show a progress bar while the screen
is locked? Is there a way to fake a progress bar while the screen is locked?
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Re: Progress bar with lock?

Hi Mark!

That is a great idea! But will the screenshot show the progress bar filling up
or is it just a static screenshot?

Charles Szasz
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On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:18 PM, Mark Schonewille-3 [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

Hi Charles,

No, you can't do this. However, you can show a screenshot of the card with a
progress bad on top.

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Re: Progress bar with lock?

Scott,

That is a good idea! It seems easy to do and would serve the same purpose.
Thanks very much!

Charles Szasz
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On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Scott Rossi [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

Recently, charles61 wrote:

AFAIK, there's no way to do this. I could have sworn screen locking used to
affect whatever stack was active at the time it was called, but currently it
affects all stacks. You might consider throwing up a text message One
moment please... while the cleanup happens, but I don't believe there's any
way to have just a portion of the screen locked.

Regards,

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Re: Progress bar with lock?

Bob,

I think that is a great idea! Maybe Scott will see this and create one.

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com

On Oct 21, 2010, at 4:15 PM, Bob Sneidar-2 [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

Here's a question: Would a window created by an external still update while
the screen is locked? If so, then I think we need a progress bar external.
Scott made some really nice controls a while back. How about if Scott made a
standalone that could be called from Runtime Rev as an external. Is that even
possible? Otherwise, a real compiled c++ or java external would have to be
made. I bet a lot of people here on the list would pay for that. I know I
would! I cannot code in c++ or java so I cannot do it.

Bob

On Oct 21, 2010, at 12:14 PM, charles61 wrote:

I have an app that I am working on that takes a few seconds to clear
fields,
reset radio buttons and checkboxes before it goes to the second card.
During
this time, the screen is locked. I wanted to show a progress bar during
this
process is going on. Is there anyway to show a progress bar while the
screen
is locked? Is there a way to fake a progress bar while the screen is
locked?
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Sending mouseup to checkboxes on different card


I am trying to devise a script to send a mouseUp to checkboxes on different
cards that are already checked. The following script works for checkboxes on
the first card but gives an execution error message on the second card
saying there is no such object. 

I checked the fields and script in this sample stack and cannot find
anything incorrect. So, I have to think there is a problem in my button
script below.

Here is my script:

on mouseUp
repeat with y = 1 to the number of cards
  repeat with b= 1 to the number of buttons of card y
 if the style of button b of card y = checkbox then
if the hilite of button b of card y = true then send mouseUp
to button b of card y
 end if
  end repeat
end repeat
end mouseUp
I would appreciate any suggestions!
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Re: Sending mouseup to checkboxes on different card


Hi Craig!

I checked for line breaks but there is none. I think the one in my posting was 
due to cutting and pasting the code to Nabble.

My sample stack of two cards has four checkboxes on one card and four on the 
second. Each checkbox has code to show a field that when it is checked. To see 
if the checkboxes are receiving the mouseUp, I set all of the fields associated 
with the checkboxes to invisible. The checkboxes that are checked on the first 
card show the fields but the checkboxes on the second card do not and generates 
an error message in the IDE when I pressed the mouseUp button on the first 
card. If I click on the checkbox to uncheck, the error message appears for the 
next checkbox that is checked. If you have any other ideas, please feel free to 
suggest them!

Charles Szasz
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On Oct 20, 2010, at 10:12 AM, dunbarx [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

 Hi. 
 
 It works. It is possible you left that line break in the second if 
 statement? 
 
 Craig Newman 
 In a message dated 10/20/10 10:04:01 AM, [hidden email] writes: 
 
 
  on mouseUp 
  repeat with y = 1 to the number of cards 
repeat with b= 1 to the number of buttons of card y 
   if the style of button b of card y = checkbox then 
  if the hilite of button b of card y = true then send mouseUp 
  to button b of card y 
   end if 
end repeat 
  end repeat 
  end mouseUp 
 
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Re: Sending mouseup to checkboxes on different card

Robert,

I am sorry for the wrong name! I was looking at an e-mail above yours when I
sent you a reply. I will try your suggestion and read your comments. Thanks!

Charles Szasz
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On Oct 20, 2010, at 11:10 AM, Robert Brenstein [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

On 20.10.10 at 07:49 -0700 charles61 apparently wrote:

Hi Craig!

I checked for line breaks but there is none. I think the one in my
posting was due to cutting and pasting the code to Nabble.

My sample stack of two cards has four checkboxes on one card and
four on the second. Each checkbox has code to show a field that when
it is checked. To see if the checkboxes are receiving the mouseUp, I
set all of the fields associated with the checkboxes to invisible.
The checkboxes that are checked on the first card show the fields
but the checkboxes on the second card do not and generates an error
message in the IDE when I pressed the mouseUp button on the first
card. If I click on the checkbox to uncheck, the error message
appears for the next checkbox that is checked. If you have any other
ideas, please feel free to suggest them!

Charles Szasz
[hidden email]

Craig meant me thinks that your inner if should be

if the hilite of button b of card y = true then
send mouseUp to button b of card y
end if

instead of

if the hilite of button b of card y = true then send mouseUp to
button b of card y

to avoid compilation ambiguity.

Anyway, your script may fail if your mouseup function does sth that
refers to the buttons on the other card, which are not present on the
current card and it does not make full reference to them but only
uses short names.

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Re: Sending mouseup to checkboxes on different card

Robert,

I tried your suggestion. But I get the same results: the checkboxes received
the message on the first card but the checkboxes on the second card did not
receive the mouseUp message.

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com

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Hi Craig!

I checked for line breaks but there is none. I think the one in my
posting was due to cutting and pasting the code to Nabble.

Charles Szasz
[hidden email]

Craig meant me thinks that your inner if should be

if the hilite of button b of card y = true then
send mouseUp to button b of card y
end if

instead of

if the hilite of button b of card y = true then send mouseUp to
button b of card y

to avoid compilation ambiguity.

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Re: Sending mouseup to checkboxes on different card

This weird! The script editor shows that the checkboxes on the second card are
being examined in the repeat loop but the checkboxes that are checked are not
receiving the mouseUp command. This is also supported that the checkboxes are
not showing the fields that are not hidden.

So, I don't know what the difference is between your sample stack and my sample
stack to account for the difference results.

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com

On Oct 20, 2010, at 11:54 AM, dunbarx [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

I made a small stack with three cards.

On the first card I placed a button with your script. On all cards I placed
a checkBox button with a mouseUp handler in it.

I ran the handler from the first card, and got results from the handlers on
the other cards.

In a message dated 10/20/10 11:21:45 AM, [hidden email] writes:

Robert,

I tried your suggestion. But I get the same results: the checkboxes
received the message on the first card but the checkboxes on the second
card did
not receive the mouseUp message.

Charles Szasz
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Re: Sending mouseup to checkboxes on different card




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Klaus,

Thanks for your suggestion! I will try it. Thanks again!

On Oct 20, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Klaus on-rev [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

 Hi Charles, 
 
  Robert, 
  
  I tried your suggestion. But I get the same results: the checkboxes 
  received the message on the first card but the checkboxes on the second 
  card did not receive the mouseUp message. 
  
  Charles Szasz 
  [hidden email] 
 
 your script is OK! 
 But check Roberts answer, that is what's going on on your side! 
 
  ... 
  Anyway, your script may fail if your mouseup function does sth that 
  refers to the buttons on the other card, which are not present on the 
  current card and it does not make full reference to them but only 
  uses short names. 
 
 To avoid this and other traps when sending mouseup to object on other cards 
 you coul do this and 
 since there is no defaultCard (like defaultstack) that we can set, we 
 have to go to all the cards to 
 avoid this above mentioned phenomenon! 
 
 on mouseUp 
  ## We want to return to this card after the script has finished! 
  put the num of this cd into tStartCard 
  lock screen 
   repeat with y = 1 to the number of cards 
   
   ## We actually have to GO to the cards but to avoid unnecessary 
   ## PRE/OPENCARD messages we have to: 
  lock messages 
  go cd y 
  unlock messages 
  repeat with b= 1 to the number of buttons 
 if the style of button b  = checkbox then 
if the hilite of button b  = true then 
send mouseUp to button b 
end if 
end if 
  end repeat 
 end repeat 
 
 ## Go back 
  lock messages 
  go cd tStartCard 
  unlock messages 
  unlock screen 
 end mouseUp 
 
  
  Robert 
 
 Best 
 
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Re: Sending mouseup to checkboxes on different card


Klaus,

Your script worked!  What changes do I have to make if I wanted to use this 
script to send a mouseUp to checkboxes on marked cards?  I did not use marked 
cards in my sample stack.

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com




On Oct 20, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Klaus on-rev [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

 Hi Charles, 
 
  Robert, 
  
  I tried your suggestion. But I get the same results: the checkboxes 
  received the message on the first card but the checkboxes on the second 
  card did not receive the mouseUp message. 
  
  Charles Szasz 
  [hidden email] 
 
 your script is OK! 
 But check Roberts answer, that is what's going on on your side! 
 
  ... 
  Anyway, your script may fail if your mouseup function does sth that 
  refers to the buttons on the other card, which are not present on the 
  current card and it does not make full reference to them but only 
  uses short names. 
 
 To avoid this and other traps when sending mouseup to object on other cards 
 you coul do this and 
 since there is no defaultCard (like defaultstack) that we can set, we 
 have to go to all the cards to 
 avoid this above mentioned phenomenon! 
 
 on mouseUp 
  ## We want to return to this card after the script has finished! 
  put the num of this cd into tStartCard 
  lock screen 
   repeat with y = 1 to the number of cards 
   
   ## We actually have to GO to the cards but to avoid unnecessary 
   ## PRE/OPENCARD messages we have to: 
  lock messages 
  go cd y 
  unlock messages 
  repeat with b= 1 to the number of buttons 
 if the style of button b  = checkbox then 
if the hilite of button b  = true then 
send mouseUp to button b 
end if 
end if 
  end repeat 
 end repeat 
 
 ## Go back 
  lock messages 
  go cd tStartCard 
  unlock messages 
  unlock screen 
 end mouseUp 
 
  
  Robert 
 
 Best 
 
 Klaus 
 
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Re: Sending mouseup to checkboxes on different card


Klaus,

Thanks!

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com




On Oct 20, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Klaus on-rev [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

 Hi Charles, 
 
  Klaus, 
  
  Your script worked!   
 
 Go figure :-) 
 
  What changes do I have to make if I wanted to use this script to send a 
  mouseUp to checkboxes on marked cards?  I did not use marked cards in my 
  sample stack. 
 
 See below... 
 
  Charles Szasz 
  [hidden email] 
  
  
  ... 
  
  
  on mouseUp 
  ## We want to return to this card after the script has finished! 
  put the num of this cd into tStartCard 
  lock screen 
   repeat with y = 1 to the number of cards
 
   if the mark of cd y  true then 
next repeat 
   end if
 
  
   ## We actually have to GO to the cards but to avoid unnecessary 
   ## PRE/OPENCARD messages we have to: 
  lock messages 
  go cd y 
  unlock messages 
  repeat with b= 1 to the number of buttons 
 if the style of button b  = checkbox then 
if the hilite of button b  = true then 
send mouseUp to button b 
end if 
end if 
  end repeat 
  end repeat 
  
  ## Go back 
  lock messages 
  go cd tStartCard 
  unlock messages 
  unlock screen 
  end mouseUp
 
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Re: Sending mouseup to checkboxes on different card


Robert,

I understand your previous e-mail about using custom handlers.  I have never 
used this concept before. But I am not following you when you sent the 
following:

f one uses full reference in the called script (that is script in 
btn b of cd y refers to itself as btn b of cd y) then going to that 
card before running that script is not needed. 

While the script that Klaus posted works, I still want to fully understand your 
comments above. Could you elaborate further?

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com




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 On 20.10.10 at 18:04 +0200 Klaus on-rev apparently wrote:
 
Anyway, your script may fail if your mouseup function does sth that 
   refers to the buttons on the other card, which are not present on the 
   current card and it does not make full reference to them but only 
   uses short names. 
  
 To avoid this and other traps when sending mouseup to object on 
 other cards you coul do this and 
 since there is no defaultCard (like defaultstack) that we can 
 set, we have to go to all the cards to 
 avoid this above mentioned phenomenon!
 
 If one uses full reference in the called script (that is script in 
 btn b of cd y refers to itself as btn b of cd y) then going to that 
 card before running that script is not needed. 
 
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Re: Sending mouseup to checkboxes on different card

Robert,

Thanks for your explanation and your time!

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com

On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Robert Brenstein [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

On 20.10.10 at 09:47 -0700 charles61 apparently wrote:

Robert,

I understand your previous e-mail about using custom handlers. I
have never used this concept before. But I am not following you when
you sent the following:

f one uses full reference in the called script (that is script in
btn b of cd y refers to itself as btn b of cd y) then going to that
card before running that script is not needed.

While the script that Klaus posted works, I still want to fully
understand your comments above. Could you elaborate further?

Charles Szasz
[hidden email]

For example, a btn on cd 1 does

send dostuff to btn 3 of cd 2

handler dostuff in btn 3 on cd 2 has

show fld 1

This will fail unless you are on this card (using go in btn on cd 1
as Klaus suggested). However,

show fld 1 of cd 2

will work with the send without having to go. This will work just
fine if executed by clicking btn 3 on cd 2, if its mouseUp is

mouseUp
dostuff
end mouseUp

Having of cd 2 in the object reference is what I meant by full
reference. Of course, normally, one would use names of objects.

Robert
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Save and Print Card Problem

2010-10-18 Thread charles61


I have a stack that has 72 cards. When the user selects a set of cards and
completes some fields, radio buttons and checkboxes, the results are loaded
into another set of cards that are used for printing. The print cards are
devoid of buttons. Then the user clicks on the Print button and the print
cards are printed showing the status of the controls and contents of the
fields. This setup works well for printing. 

The Save code I used correctly saves the status of the radio buttons, fields
and checkboxes. But here is the problem. When the user opens the saved file
and tries to print the cards, the print cards do not show the status of the
controls (radio buttons, checkboxes and fields in the cards that were saved.
I am lost here on how to solve this problem. I would GREATLY APPRECIATIVE
any help I can to resolve this unexpected problem!
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Unable to select text in script editor!!

2010-09-18 Thread charles61


I am using Rev 4.0 Build 950 for the Mac. I have been experiencing sporadic
problems in the script editor. At times, I unable to select text. In these
situations, I can insert the cursor before text or after text to  move
forward to add or move backwards to delete text. 

I have checked my preferences and found nothing. I have experienced this
with the Script Debug turn on and off. I have been forced to save and quit
and then restart Rev to get rid of this problem. Does anybody have any ideas
how I can fix this? 
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Need help with ListMagic!

2010-09-17 Thread charles61


I am using ListMagic (LM) in my project. I have two LM tables - student and
adult. The adult table works fine but I have been having persistent problems
with the student table for the past two weeks!

The two tables are on different cards. I am using Rev. Enterprise 4.0 Built
950 on the Mac.

The problem is that the first default row below the headers is not
reflecting the names of the headers above it which it is suppose to do. This
default row is present when there are no entries in the table. The row has
the following names: Header 2, Header 3, Header 4, Header 5, Header 6 and
Header 7 instead of the header names above the row. The adult table
correctly shows the default header names in the default row. 

Although the adult table has only only four headers (not including the
number column), the code for both is the same except for the global:
globalFieldData. The adult table has the global globalFieldData2.

I would greatly appreciate any help on this whether it be on this list or
off line: csz...@mac.com

Thanks!
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Re: Grouping checkboxes with label fields

2010-09-14 Thread charles61


Thanks to everyone for their suggestions! Although Jacquline's suggestion may
be the easiest to implement, I am going to try each suggestion to see which
works best for me. Thanks everybody!
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Grouping checkboxes with label fields

2010-09-13 Thread charles61


I have a series of cards that have checkboxes. Some of the checkboxes have
labels fields under them because the label of the checkbox will not hold the
content of the information displayed. Here is my question: I want to modify
the following group script for checkboxes to display the content of the
checkboxes plus the label fields for some of the checkboxes. I have tried
grouping the checkboxes that have an additional label fields but that does
not work.

What changes would I need to make this work both checkboxes that have label
fields and those that do not have label fields?


on mouseUp
   put the number of buttons of me into nbr
   repeat with n = 1 to nbr
  put the short name of button n of me into tName
  if not the hilite of button n of me then next repeat
  put tName  ,  after theList
  --  put tName  cr after theList
   end repeat
   delete char -2 to -1 of theList
   put theList into field list
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Optimizing print code

2010-09-10 Thread charles61


I have developed the following print card code for both the Mac and Windows.
When I tested it the Print Dialog seems to take longer to show up despite
improvements I made to both print scripts. 
I would certainly appreciate any suggestions on how to speed up the print
dialog appearing!

Here is my code:

on mouseUp
   if the platform is macos
   then
  select empty
  
  open printing with dialog as sheet
  if the result = cancel then exit to top
  
  set the printPaperOrientation to portrait
  set the printmargins to 36,108,36,72
  set the printScale to .8738
  
  set the mark of card referral to false
  set the mark of card letter to false
  set the mark of card help to false
  
  lock screen
  set the hiliteColor of this stack to 255,255,255
  set the backgroundColor of this stack to 255,255,255
  hideStuff
  
  go to first marked card
  select empty
  
  repeat with x=1 to the number of marked cards --- Page numbering of
marked cards
 put Page  x into field PageNumber of marked card x
  end repeat
  
  select empty
  click at 0,0
  print marked cards
  
  close printing --- Printing is done!
  
  set the mark of card referral to true
  set the mark of card letter to true
  set the mark of card help to true
  
  set the hiliteColor of this stack to 126,188,237
  set the backgroundcolor of this stack to 237,239,217
   
  showStuff
  unlock screen
  go to card communications
   end if
   
   if the platform is win32 
   then 
  answer printer
  set the printPaperOrientation to portrait
  set the printmargins to 36,108,36,72
  set the printScale to .8738
  
  open printing 
  if the result = cancel then exit to top
  
  set the mark of card referral to false
  set the mark of card letter to false
  set the mark of card help to false
  
  set the formatforprinting of this stack to true
  select empty
  
  lock screen
  hide stuff
  go to first marked card
  
  repeat with x=1 to the number of marked cards --- Page numbering of
marked cards
 put Page  x into field PageNumber of marked card x
  end repeat
  
  select empty
  print marked cards
  close printing  Printing completed ---Added 9-7-10
   end if
   
   set the mark of card referral to true
   set the mark of card letter to true
   set the mark of card help to true
   
   set the backgroundcolor of this stack to 237,239,217
   set the formatforprinting of this stack to false
   showStuff
   go to card communications
   unlock screen
end mouseUp

on hideStuff
   hide group menubar 1 of card eligibility
   hide button print Elig of card eligibility
   hide button continue of card eligibility
   hide button eligmenu of card eligibility
   hide group main of card eligibility
   --   hide button Omenu1 of card eligibility
   hide button print of card communications
   hide group nav of card communications
   hide button list of card communications
   hide group main of card communications
   
   hide button print of card help --- New 9-7-10
   hide button save of card help
   hide button eligibility page of card help
   hide button clear of card help
end hideStuff

on showStuff
   show group menubar 1 of card eligibility
   show button print Elig of card eligibility
   show button continue of card eligibility
   show button eligmenu of card eligibility
   show group main of card eligibility
   show button print of card communications
   show group nav of card communications
   show button list of card communications
   show group main of card communications
   
   show button print of card help --- New 9-7-10
   show button save of card help
   show button eligibility page of card help
   show button clear of card help
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ListMagic Users: Cannot import LM data with the status of checkboxes

2010-08-10 Thread charles61


I love List Magic. It makes it extremely easy to make lists in Rev apps.
After using the syntax given in the docs to export and then import LM lists,
I found that the status of the checkboxes in the second header are not being
imported when you import the list back into your app. Has any LM users run
into this problem? 

If so, how did you deal with it? I would be happy to share my export and
import scripts to compare notes about this problem!
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Creating a folder using get specialFolderPath

2010-08-09 Thread charles61


I have the following handler that creates a text file (list) on the user's
application support folder on OS X:

 if the platform = MacOS then
  get specialFolderPath(home)  specialFolderPath(asup) / 
list
  put it into tfilePath
 end if

I tried the following to create a folder in the user's application support
folder that would store the text file (list):

if the platform = MacOS then
  get specialFolderPath(home)  specialFolderPath(asup) / 
Student Report  /  list
  put it into tfilePath
 end if

But it does not work? Any suggestions?
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Re: A real problem with Prefs!!

2010-08-06 Thread charles61


Chipp,

Thanks! I will save it and use it in my next project!

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com




On Aug 5, 2010, at 8:53 PM, Chipp Walters [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

 Charles, I will sometimes have a getPrefsFolder() function. Something like: 
 
 function getPrefsFolder 
get the effective filename of this stack 
set itemDel to / 
delete last item of it 
put /  Prefs after it 
If there is not a folder it then create folder it 
return it 
 end getPrefsFolder 
 
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Re: E-mailing data file


Thanks to everyone for your suggestions!
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Saving data in List Magic tables


I have a standalone consisting of a splash stack and an app stack. I have set
up a script that the user can insert some information into two tables - one
for students and one for adults. These tables are on two different cards in
my app stack. 

I have been testing my standalone on Windows XP where it was installed in
the AllUsersAppData directory using an installer program.  I tried the
following script for the card that has the student list:

on closeCard
   Save School Report as \Documents and Settings\All Users\Application
Data
end closeCard

But this does not save the data in the two tables!  Any suggestions would be
greatly appreciated!
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Re: Saving data in List Magic tables

Richard,

Thanks for pointing out my mistake and how to correct it! I was using Rev's
Dictionary examples. And I agree with your comments about crafting an app!

Regarding the .Rev extension, I had used the extension of .dat for a previous
app, which consisted of only 8 cards. This was to make it harder for someone to
try to open the app. The .dat extension worked great. But I was not
successfully in using the .dat extension with my current project, which
consists of 71 cards plus 18 customized dialogs. I got standalone errors in the
exec recognizing the app stack.

Thanks so much!!

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com

On Aug 5, 2010, at 10:35 AM, Richard Gaskin [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

charles61 wrote:

I have a standalone consisting of a splash stack and an app stack. I have
set
up a script that the user can insert some information into two tables - one
for students and one for adults. These tables are on two different cards in
my app stack.

I have been testing my standalone on Windows XP where it was installed in
the AllUsersAppData directory using an installer program. I tried the
following script for the card that has the student list:

on closeCard
Save School Report as \Documents and Settings\All Users\Application
Data
end closeCard

But this does not save the data in the two tables! Any suggestions would
be
greatly appreciated!

When the unexpected happens, it's time for error-checking. One of the
challenges of crafting apps is that when you're being diligent only
about half your code will actually do what your app does, and the other
half will be all the stuff you add to account for when things go wrong. :)

In Rev, most error conditions are reported in the result immediately
after a command fails, and for I/O and other system-related tasks you
may find an additional OS-supplied error code using the sysError function.

So to better understand what's happening there you may try adding that
to your script.

Also, by hard-wiring your paths they won't work on international systems
where the spelling may differ, and may not survive changes to the OS if
MS changes the names of those folders in a future version.

The solution for that is Rev's specialFolderPath function. Rev provides
a variety of constants you can pass to that function to get the path,
and pretty much all OS constants provided by the OS vendor can be used
as well -- Ken Ray's put together this comprehensive list:
http://sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/file010.htm

While Rev doesn't include a built-in constant for that, looking at Ken's
list you can use the OS constant instead, which is 35.

If you want that to be cross-platform you can use Ken's list to get the
Application Support constant for OS X, but for now here's your code
modified with specialFolderPath and including the error check which will
hopefully help diagnose the issue.

A ha! As I was rewriting your code I noticed that you're specifying
only the folder and not the file name, so effectively you're asking Rev
to try to turn the stack into a folder, which of course it can't do.
The fix for that is included in this revision:

on closeCard
Save School Report as (specialFolderPath(35)/School Report.rev)
if the result is not empty then
answer error An error occurred while saving the report: cr\
the result ( sysError() )
end if
end closeCard

Note that the .rev extension can be changed to anything else you feel
might be appropriate for your app. Rev opens stacks based on their
internal stucture, and a standalone is not required to use the .rev file
name extension to work with stack files, allowing you to define your own
document types.

If you want to use a custom file name extension you may want to check
http://filext.com/ to see if another program may be using it. That's
not a comprehensive list (Microsoft doesn't maintain such an index), but
it'll at least help avoid some of the more obvious conflicts.

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Re: Saving data in List Magic tables

Klaus,

I appreciate your comments along with Richard's. Thanks so much!

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com

On Aug 5, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Klaus on-rev [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

Hi Charles,

additionally to Richard's answer, plese see my coments below your code.

on closeCard
Save School Report as \Documents and Settings\All Users\Application
Data
end closeCard

1. You only provide the STRING School report to the SAVE command!
Probably you mean save STACK School report...?

2. You only provided the target FOLDER and no filename!
Hint: specialfolderpath(35) will give you that folder on all win versions!
...
save STACK School report as (specialfolderpath(35) / School
report.rev
## Richards debug code here...
...

Hope that helps.

But this does not save the data in the two tables! Any suggestions would
be
greatly appreciated!

Best

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Re: E-mailing data file

Richard,

Wow! I really appreciate your suggestions on e-mailing data. This is something
I hope to add on to my app after it is deployed. I don't have any experience
with CGI. So thanks again!!!

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com

On Aug 5, 2010, at 10:54 AM, Richard Gaskin [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

Michael D Mays wrote:

In a lot of places email is the only way. I have people whose
parent corporation provides their internet connection. They
have limited bandwidth and a less than stellar corporate IT.
Emails of less than a few MB is the only way for them.

Unless I misunderstood the original request, this isn't a question of
bandwidth but merely of finding a reliable way to send the message.

The mailto: protocol is often used for such things, and in many cases
will open the user's default email client with a preformatted message
ready to send.

The problem with mailto is that it's not reliable on Windows systems if
there's any risk that the total URL string passed to it may exceed 512
characters -- see the first comment at:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa767737%28VS.85%29.aspx

Complicating things further, this limit appears to vary between
different versions of Windows and/or Outlook (I've seen some systems
where lengths up to 2048 are accepted, but even that's kinda small for
sending logs).

When that limit is exceeded, in most cases (but again, this is not
consistently implemented) the OS will simply fail to open the client at all.

Faced with that unpredictable limit, mailto is only useful on Windows
when you know the message will be very short.

So instead, we need to explore other options, and CGI is a great one.

With a CGI you use the same bandwidth, since the message isn't any
longer regardless how it's sent.

But using a CGI to handle the message you no longer give up control over
the message length, provided you send it with POST rather than GET
(well, technically speaking some hosts may impose limits on POST data
length, but usually those limits are so large they won't come into play
for most common uses).

In fact, using a CGI you can send the same message in much a smaller
data chunk using Rev's built-in gzip compression:

post compress(tMyData) to url http://mydomain.com/cgi-bin/myscript.cgi;

Gzip compression works wonders on text, often reducing its length by as
much as 40% and sometimes as high as 70% depending on the content.

On the receiving end, the CGI script can get the POST data, run it
through Rev's decompress function, and either email it to you, or write
it to a file you can pick up with FTP, or any number of other options.

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Re: E-mailing data file

Richard,

Thanks and I will check Jacque's tutorial for CGIs!

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com

On Aug 5, 2010, at 11:08 AM, Richard Gaskin [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

charles61 wrote:

Wow! I really appreciate your suggestions on e-mailing data.
This is something I hope to add on to my app after it is
deployed. I don't have any experience with CGI. So thanks again!!!

Charles, your life is about to change. :)

Getting started with CGIs can be daunting at first because in many ways
it's quite different from writing in a desktop app.

But once you get the hang of it and you've ironed out all your 500
errors (yes, you'll have them, but most are caused by only three issues
so when you encounter 'em just post here and we'll help you sort 'em
out) you'll have all sorts of ideas for ways you can use CGIs.

Pretty soon you'll be the master of your server, able to have it do your
bidding when called from your stacks or your browser. It'll open many
new worlds of discovery and personal achievement.

I can't stress enough how helpful Jacque's tutorial is for getting
started with CGIs:
http://hyperactivesw.com/cgitutorial/

You're about to have a very good time. Let us know how it goes.

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Re: Saving data in List Magic tables

Richard,

I check the standalones setting and found for the Mac, .rev is being used. I
will uncheck that and try using .dat again.

Thanks!

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com

On Aug 5, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Richard Gaskin [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

charles61 wrote:

Regarding the .Rev extension, I had used the extension of .dat for
a previous app, which consisted of only 8 cards. This was to make
it harder for someone to try to open the app. The .dat extension
worked great. But I was not successfully in using the .dat extension
with my current project, which consists of 71 cards plus 18
customized dialogs. I got standalone errors in the exec recognizing
the app stack.

FWIW I use .dat often and it seems to work as well as any other file
name extension.

If the standalone has trouble opening the file there must be something
else at play beyond the file name.

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Re: Saving data in List Magic tables


Richard,

What is the best location for an app to be installed on OSX?

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com




On Aug 5, 2010, at 10:35 AM, Richard Gaskin [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

 charles61 wrote: 
 
  I have a standalone consisting of a splash stack and an app stack. I have 
  set 
  up a script that the user can insert some information into two tables - one 
  for students and one for adults. These tables are on two different cards in 
  my app stack. 
  
  I have been testing my standalone on Windows XP where it was installed in 
  the AllUsersAppData directory using an installer program.  I tried the 
  following script for the card that has the student list: 
  
  on closeCard 
 Save School Report as \Documents and Settings\All Users\Application 
  Data 
  end closeCard 
  
  But this does not save the data in the two tables!  Any suggestions would 
  be 
  greatly appreciated!
 
 When the unexpected happens, it's time for error-checking.   One of the 
 challenges of crafting apps is that when you're being diligent only 
 about half your code will actually do what your app does, and the other 
 half will be all the stuff you add to account for when things go wrong. :) 
 
 In Rev, most error conditions are reported in the result immediately 
 after a command fails, and for I/O and other system-related tasks you 
 may find an additional OS-supplied error code using the sysError function. 
 
 So to better understand what's happening there you may try adding that 
 to your script. 
 
 Also, by hard-wiring your paths they won't work on international systems 
 where the spelling may differ, and may not survive changes to the OS if 
 MS changes the names of those folders in a future version. 
 
 The solution for that is Rev's specialFolderPath function.  Rev provides 
 a variety of constants you can pass to that function to get the path, 
 and pretty much all OS constants provided by the OS vendor can be used 
 as well -- Ken Ray's put together this comprehensive list: 
 http://sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/file010.htm 
 
 While Rev doesn't include a built-in constant for that, looking at Ken's 
 list you can use the OS constant instead, which is 35. 
 
 If you want that to be cross-platform you can use Ken's list to get the 
 Application Support constant for OS X, but for now here's your code 
 modified with specialFolderPath and including the error check which will 
 hopefully help diagnose the issue. 
 
 A ha!  As I was rewriting your code I noticed that you're specifying 
 only the folder and not the file name, so effectively you're asking Rev 
 to try to turn the stack into a folder, which of course it can't do. 
 The fix for that is included in this revision: 
 
 on closeCard 
 Save School Report as (specialFolderPath(35)/School Report.rev) 
 if the result is not empty then 
answer error An error occurred while saving the report: cr\ 
   the result  ( sysError() ) 
  end if 
 end closeCard 
 
 Note that the .rev extension can be changed to anything else you feel 
 might be appropriate for your app. Rev opens stacks based on their 
 internal stucture, and a standalone is not required to use the .rev file 
 name extension to work with stack files, allowing you to define your own 
 document types. 
 
 If you want to use a custom file name extension you may want to check 
 http://filext.com/ to see if another program may be using it.  That's 
 not a comprehensive list (Microsoft doesn't maintain such an index), but 
 it'll at least help avoid some of the more obvious conflicts. 
 
 -- 
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Re: Saving data in List Magic tables


Richard,

After going to Key Ray's site, I found asup as code for Application Support 
constant for OS X. Is this the best place to put your app when you install it 
on an user's OS X computer? 

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com




On Aug 5, 2010, at 10:35 AM, Richard Gaskin [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

 charles61 wrote: 
 
  I have a standalone consisting of a splash stack and an app stack. I have 
  set 
  up a script that the user can insert some information into two tables - one 
  for students and one for adults. These tables are on two different cards in 
  my app stack. 
  
  I have been testing my standalone on Windows XP where it was installed in 
  the AllUsersAppData directory using an installer program.  I tried the 
  following script for the card that has the student list: 
  
  on closeCard 
 Save School Report as \Documents and Settings\All Users\Application 
  Data 
  end closeCard 
  
  But this does not save the data in the two tables!  Any suggestions would 
  be 
  greatly appreciated!
 
 When the unexpected happens, it's time for error-checking.   One of the 
 challenges of crafting apps is that when you're being diligent only 
 about half your code will actually do what your app does, and the other 
 half will be all the stuff you add to account for when things go wrong. :) 
 
 In Rev, most error conditions are reported in the result immediately 
 after a command fails, and for I/O and other system-related tasks you 
 may find an additional OS-supplied error code using the sysError function. 
 
 So to better understand what's happening there you may try adding that 
 to your script. 
 
 Also, by hard-wiring your paths they won't work on international systems 
 where the spelling may differ, and may not survive changes to the OS if 
 MS changes the names of those folders in a future version. 
 
 The solution for that is Rev's specialFolderPath function.  Rev provides 
 a variety of constants you can pass to that function to get the path, 
 and pretty much all OS constants provided by the OS vendor can be used 
 as well -- Ken Ray's put together this comprehensive list: 
 http://sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/file010.htm 
 
 While Rev doesn't include a built-in constant for that, looking at Ken's 
 list you can use the OS constant instead, which is 35. 
 
 If you want that to be cross-platform you can use Ken's list to get the 
 Application Support constant for OS X, but for now here's your code 
 modified with specialFolderPath and including the error check which will 
 hopefully help diagnose the issue. 
 
 A ha!  As I was rewriting your code I noticed that you're specifying 
 only the folder and not the file name, so effectively you're asking Rev 
 to try to turn the stack into a folder, which of course it can't do. 
 The fix for that is included in this revision: 
 
 on closeCard 
 Save School Report as (specialFolderPath(35)/School Report.rev) 
 if the result is not empty then 
answer error An error occurred while saving the report: cr\ 
   the result  ( sysError() ) 
  end if 
 end closeCard 
 
 Note that the .rev extension can be changed to anything else you feel 
 might be appropriate for your app. Rev opens stacks based on their 
 internal stucture, and a standalone is not required to use the .rev file 
 name extension to work with stack files, allowing you to define your own 
 document types. 
 
 If you want to use a custom file name extension you may want to check 
 http://filext.com/ to see if another program may be using it.  That's 
 not a comprehensive list (Microsoft doesn't maintain such an index), but 
 it'll at least help avoid some of the more obvious conflicts. 
 
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Re: Saving data in List Magic tables

Richard,

I am sorry to open this can of worms! The apps I made in the past were ones
that did only computations where no data was saved. And, recently I learned
about creating, saving and reading Prefs!

My current app is the only one that has LM tables where information have to be
saved for these tables within the app itself. Otherwise, data files created by
my app are saved as data files in documents. So, I will go ahead and use
Application Support to put my app.

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com

On Aug 5, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Richard Gaskin [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

charles61 wrote:

After going to Key Ray's site, I found asup as code for Application
Support constant for OS X. Is this the best place to put your app
when you install it on an user's OS X computer?

Now you've gone an opened up a can of worms, Charles! :)

This question touches on a few issues, but let's handle the small one first:

If you want to save DATA (not the app, we'll get to that in a moment) to
the Application Data folder, you need to decide which one. There's a
system-wide one in the System folder, and a user-specific one in the
user's Library folder.

The system-wide one can be useful for data which will be used by all
users on that machine:

get specialFolderPath(asup)

There is no special constant for the user's App Support folder, but you
can get it by concatenating the user folder with the App Support folder:

get specialFolderPath(home) specialFolderPath(asup)

But that's for data only. And Apple gets somewhat specific about
*which* data should go there - see this overview of Where to put
application files:
http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/BPFileSystem/Articles/WhereToPutFiles.html

In short, they suggest using the Preferences folder for prefs data, and
Application Support for any type of file that supports the application
but is not required for the application to run.

As for the application itself, it should go into the Applications folder
on OS X and Program Files on Windows. But remember that modern versions
of both OS X and Windows can restrict access to those folders for
non-admin accounts.

For Windows, any installer builder you use will allow an option for the
user to elevate privileges to a level appropriate for installation, or
if you're rolling your own you can use the option for setting User
Access Control in Rev's Standalone Builder.

On OS X, it's common to deliver apps in a DMG image file, so they user
will be able to put it wherever they have permissions to do so.

Once the app is installed, if the user doesn't have admin permissions
the app may not be able to write to its own folder. So for things like
your Reports stack, I would consider using Application Support on OS X
and Application Data on Windows.

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E-mailing data file

2010-08-04 Thread charles61


I created an app that generates a data file.  The files are saved on the
user's hard drive.  I want to add an e-mail button that would allow the user
to send the file by e-mail by selecting the file within the app to send to
another person who is using my program.  How can I do that?  
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Re: E-mailing data file

2010-08-04 Thread charles61

Richard,

The only problem is that I am dealing with individual computers running the
program and not a server. Any other ideas?

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com

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charles61 wrote:

I created an app that generates a data file. The files are saved on the
user's hard drive. I want to add an e-mail button that would allow the
user
to send the file by e-mail by selecting the file within the app to send to
another person who is using my program. How can I do that?

Many people would recommend using mailto. Don't count on it. Microsoft
has imposed a limit on the length of URLs used with that protocol; it's
short, and varies from release to release, making the use of mailto for
setting up emails on Windows unreliable unless you know your
email+attachment will be very short.

I would use a CGI on the server, and post the file to that, which could
then email it to you. You can even compress the data using the built-in
compress function to make the transfer much sorter.

It's a bit more work to set up a CGI, but well worth it: once you get
comfortable with CGIs a very large universe of possibilities opens up to
you.

The basics of getting started with the Rev CGI are here:
http://www.hyperactivesw.com/cgitutorial/

If you get going and have any trouble working out the email part of it,
drop a note here and we'll sort it out for you.

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Re: A real problem with Prefs!!

2010-08-03 Thread charles61


Mark,

Thanks for your suggestion. Here is what I am trying to do. My app has a
preferences for the user to complete. It includes the name of the user,
telephone number and e-mail address that are used on a couple of cards as
part of a document that is later printed out. When the app is first
launched, the preferences are empty, waiting to be filled by the user. I
will try your suggestion! Again thanks for your time!
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Re: A real problem with Prefs!!

2010-08-03 Thread charles61


Hi Mark,

I tried your suggestion and it works on both my windows and mac apps!!

Here is my revised stack script of my app stack:

on preOpenStack
   set the loc of this stack to the screenloc
   loadPrefs
end preOpenStack

on loadPrefs pFilename
   local tPrefs
   
   --   put url (binfile:  pFilename) into tPrefs
   IF the platform is MacOS then 
  if there is a file (specialFolderPath(26)  /  S504_prefs) then
 put url (binfile:  specialFolderPath(preferences)  / 
S504_prefs) into tPrefs
 
 put arrayDecode(tPrefs) into tPrefs

 -- now fill in all my data...
 put tPrefs[school] into field mySchool of card id 1002 of stack
prefs
 put tPrefs[contact] into field contact of card id 1002 of stack
prefs
 put tPrefs[email] into field email of card id 1002 of stack
prefs
  end if
   end if
   
   IF the platform is win32 then
  if there is a file (specialFolderPath(26)  /  S504_prefs) then 
 put url (binfile:  specialFolderPath(26)  /  S504_prefs)
into tPrefs
 
 put arrayDecode(tPrefs) into tPrefs

 -- now fill in all my data...
 put tPrefs[school] into field mySchool of card id 1002 of stack
prefs
 put tPrefs[contact] into field contact of card id 1002 of stack
prefs
 put tPrefs[email] into field email of card id 1002 of stack
prefs
  end if
   end if
   
end loadPrefs

Please feel free to make any additional comments. This is my first app that
employs a prefs stack. My experience with this have been frustrating at time
but invaluable for future apps. I am posting this code so that it will be
helpful to others.
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A real problem with Prefs!!

2010-08-02 Thread charles61


I successful finished testing my app within the IDE. I created a standalone
and then launched it on Windows XP. I got the following error message from
the Bug Report as an email:

Object: stack 'C:/Documents and Settings/All Users/Application
Data/MyProduct/S504.rev'
Line Num: 65
Hint: loadPrefs

I dismissed the error report. I went ahead and ran my program. I opened the
prefs and created a pref file. The next time I launched my program, I did
not get the error report above. So, apparently the program is looking for a
nonexistent Prefs file and when it doesn't find it I get the error report.

Here is my stack script:

on preOpenStack
   loadPrefs
end preOpenStack

on loadPrefs pFilename
   local tPrefs
   --   put url (binfile:  pFilename) into tPrefs
   IF the platform is win32 
   then 
  put url (binfile:  specialFolderPath(26)  /  504_prefs) into
tPrefs
   end if
   
   put arrayDecode(tPrefs) into tPrefs
   
   put tPrefs[school] into field mySchool of card id 1002 of stack
prefs
   put tPrefs[school] into field school of card referral of stack
S504
   put tPrefs[school] into field site of card adult of stack S504
   
   put tPrefs[contact] into field contact of card id 1002 of stack
prefs
   put tPrefs[contact] into field contact of card letter of stack
S504
   put tPrefs[contact] into field contact of card adult letter of
stack S504
   
end loadPrefs

I thought that the code:
put url (binfile:  specialFolderPath(26)  /  504_prefs) into tPrefs

created a folder named 504_Prefs

What am I missing here?
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Re: A real problem with Prefs!!

2010-08-02 Thread charles61


Hi Mark!

I had that code in the actual Prefs stack but not in my app stack script. If I 
put the following:

put tPrefs into url (binfile:  specialFolderPath(26)  /  504_prefs) 

before loadPrefs in app stack script I should be okay?

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com




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 put tPrefs into url (binfile:  specialFolderPath(26)  /  504_prefs) 


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Unique problem

2010-07-27 Thread charles61


I have developed an app that deals with student files and adult files. When
the user goes to the student section, the file menu items for adults is
disabled. And, when the user goes to the adult section, the file menu items
for students is disabled. I set up my app like so that the user would not be
able to create a student file and then save it by accident as an adult file
and visa vera. 

Here is my unique problem: When I save a student file and then later
reopened it in the student section of the app, the adult menus items are not
disabled. I used a preOpenCard handler:

on preopenCard
   mark this card
   enable menuItem 1 of button File of group menubar 1 --Student
   disable menuItem 2 of button File of group menubar 1 --Adult
   enable menuItem 3 of button File of group menubar 1 --Student
   disable menuItem 4 of button File of group menubar 1 --Adult
   enable menuItem 5 of button File of group menubar 1 --Student
   disable menuItem 6 of button File of group menubar 1 --Adult
end preopenCard

I understand why the script doesn't work because I am not opening a card
when I open a file. This is verified when I go back through the file and
then come back to the card. The menuitems are disabled as expected.  I don't
have a clue how to handle this problem! So, script suggestions will be
welcomed with open arms!
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Re: Unique problem

2010-07-27 Thread charles61


Hi Bob,

That is a good idea but I don't know how to script this in the open file menu. 

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com




On Jul 27, 2010, at 1:35 PM, Bob Sneidar-2 [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

 Make the student files only accessible after going to the student section of 
 the app. Do the same for the Adult files. (I assume you mean Teachers). 
 
 Barring that, does your app actually do the opening? Then create a command 
 that opens the file, determines if it is a student or adult file, and sets 
 the menu's accordingly. 
 
 Without actually seeing the app, that's all I can offer. I don't think there 
 is a system message that gets fired off when you open a file. 
 
 Bob 
 
 
 On Jul 27, 2010, at 10:16 AM, charles61 wrote: 
 
  
  I have developed an app that deals with student files and adult files. When 
  the user goes to the student section, the file menu items for adults is 
  disabled. And, when the user goes to the adult section, the file menu items 
  for students is disabled. I set up my app like so that the user would not 
  be 
  able to create a student file and then save it by accident as an adult file 
  and visa vera. 
  
  Here is my unique problem: When I save a student file and then later 
  reopened it in the student section of the app, the adult menus items are 
  not 
  disabled. I used a preOpenCard handler: 
  
  on preopenCard 
mark this card 
enable menuItem 1 of button File of group menubar 1 --Student 
disable menuItem 2 of button File of group menubar 1 --Adult 
enable menuItem 3 of button File of group menubar 1 --Student 
disable menuItem 4 of button File of group menubar 1 --Adult 
enable menuItem 5 of button File of group menubar 1 --Student 
disable menuItem 6 of button File of group menubar 1 --Adult 
  end preopenCard 
  
  I understand why the script doesn't work because I am not opening a card 
  when I open a file. This is verified when I go back through the file and 
  then come back to the card. The menuitems are disabled as expected.  I 
  don't 
  have a clue how to handle this problem! So, script suggestions will be 
  welcomed with open arms! 
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Re: Unique problem

2010-07-27 Thread charles61


Mark,

That looks like a way to handle this problem. Where this handler go?

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com




On Jul 27, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Mark Swindell [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

 I'm not sure I'm following the structure of all you're doing, but would 
 something like this work? 
 
 on enableMe — at cd script level (or higher if it is to be used on various 
 cards) 
   mark this card 
   enable menuItem 1 of button File of group menubar 1 --Student 
   disable menuItem 2 of button File of group menubar 1 --Adult 
   enable menuItem 3 of button File of group menubar 1 --Student 
   disable menuItem 4 of button File of group menubar 1 --Adult 
   enable menuItem 5 of button File of group menubar 1 --Student 
   disable menuItem 6 of button File of group menubar 1 --Adult 
 end enableMe 
 
 on opencard 
 send enableMe to this card 
 end openCard 
 
 -Mark 
 
 On Jul 27, 2010, at 10:16 AM, charles61 wrote: 
 
  
  I have developed an app that deals with student files and adult files. When 
  the user goes to the student section, the file menu items for adults is 
  disabled. And, when the user goes to the adult section, the file menu items 
  for students is disabled. I set up my app like so that the user would not 
  be 
  able to create a student file and then save it by accident as an adult file 
  and visa vera. 
  
  Here is my unique problem: When I save a student file and then later 
  reopened it in the student section of the app, the adult menus items are 
  not 
  disabled. I used a preOpenCard handler: 
  
  on preopenCard 
mark this card 
enable menuItem 1 of button File of group menubar 1 --Student 
disable menuItem 2 of button File of group menubar 1 --Adult 
enable menuItem 3 of button File of group menubar 1 --Student 
disable menuItem 4 of button File of group menubar 1 --Adult 
enable menuItem 5 of button File of group menubar 1 --Student 
disable menuItem 6 of button File of group menubar 1 --Adult 
  end preopenCard 
  
  I understand why the script doesn't work because I am not opening a card 
  when I open a file. This is verified when I go back through the file and 
  then come back to the card. The menuitems are disabled as expected.  I 
  don't 
  have a clue how to handle this problem! So, script suggestions will be 
  welcomed with open arms! 
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Re: Unable to save prefs in Windows/Mac standalones


Richmond,

Apparently you only read the header of my posting and my script. I am NOT
saving preferences in a standalone. If you look at my script you will see
that I am trying to save my preferences as a separate file. The Preferences
are read into the program each time it is launched. With this in mind, do
you have any suggestions?
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Unable to get saved preferences file into a standalone at launched


I have two stacks: a splash and an app stack (S504). I have a stack prefs
which is part of the app stack. The Prefs stack is not moved out as a
separate stack when the standalone is made. I used an installer to install
my program in the AllUsersAppData directory for windows Xp. 

When I run the installed Window app, I open the Prefs stack and entered
information into six fields: myCounty, school system, site, agent, contact
and email. I closed the Prefs stack and then quit my app. When I relaunched
my app, the fields cited above are not filled in my app. But I open the
Prefs stack, the fields are filled in. When I closed the Prefs stack, then
the fields in my app are filled. 

I would appreciate suggestions on how I can get my preferences into my app! 

I have the following script in my Prefs stack: 

on preOpenStack 
   set the loc of me to the loc of stack S504 
   loadPrefs 
end preOpenStack 

on closeStack 
   saveprefs 
end closeStack 

on loadPrefs pFilename 
   local tPrefs 

   --   put url (binfile:  pFilename) into tPrefs 
   IF the platform is MacOS 
   then 
  put url (binfile:  specialFolderPath(preferences)  / 
S504_prefs) into tPrefs 
   end if 

   IF the platform is win32 
   then 
  put url (binfile:  specialFolderPath(26)  /  S504_prefs) into
tPrefs 
   end if 

   put arrayDecode(tPrefs) into tPrefs 

   -- now fill in all my data... 
   put tPrefs[county] into field myCounty of card id 1002 of stack
prefs 
   put tPrefs[county] into field school system of card referral of
stack S504 
   --   put tPrefs[county] into field site of card adult of stack
S504 

   put tPrefs[school] into field mySchool of card id 1002 of stack
prefs 
   put tPrefs[school] into field school of card referral of stack
S504 
   put tPrefs[school] into field site of card adult of stack S504 

   put tPrefs[agent] into field agent of card id 1002 of stack prefs 
   put tPrefs[agent] into field agent of card letter of stack S504 
   put tPrefs[agent] into field agent of card adult letter of stack
S504 

   put tPrefs[contact] into field contact of card id 1002 of stack
prefs 
   put tPrefs[contact] into field contact of card letter of stack
S504 
   put tPrefs[contact] into field contact of card adult letter of
stack S504 

   put tPrefs[email] into field email of card id 1002 of stack prefs 
   put tPrefs[email] into field email of card letter of stack S504 
   put tPrefs[email] into field email of card adult letter of stack
S504 
end loadPrefs 

on savePrefs pFilename 
   local tPrefs 

   --Fill in all of my data 
   put field myCounty into tPrefs[county] 
   put field mySchool into tPrefs[school] 
   put field agent into tPrefs[agent] 
   put field contact into tPrefs[contact] 
   put field email into tPrefs[email] 

   IF the platform is MacOS 
   then 
  put arrayEncode(tPrefs) into url (binfile: 
specialFolderPath(preferences)  /  S504_prefs) 

   end if 

   IF the platform is win32 
   then 
  put arrayEncode(tPrefs) into url (binfile:  specialFolderPath(26) 
/  S504_prefs) 

   end if 

end savePrefs 
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Re: Unable to save prefs in Windows/Mac standalones

Richmond,

The prefs appear in the Prefs stack of the standalone but they do not appear in
the app itself. I am puzzled why they do not appear in the app.

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com

On Jul 24, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Richmond Mathewson-2 [via Runtime Revolution]
wrote:

On 07/24/2010 05:31 PM, charles61 wrote:
Richmond,

Apparently you only read the header of my posting and my script. I am NOT
saving preferences in a standalone. If you look at my script you will see
that I am trying to save my preferences as a separate file. The Preferences
are read into the program each time it is launched. With this in mind, do
you have any suggestions?

I;m sorry; I don't know what made me think you were
saving prefs from a standalone.

Notwithstanding, I cannot see anything intrinsically wrong
with saving to a TAB-delimited text file.
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Re: Unable to get saved preferences file into a standalone at launched


Mike,

Thanks for your explanation and suggestion. I will take a look at this and see 
what modifications I need to make it work. Thanks again!

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com




On Jul 24, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Mike Bonner [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

 After glancing through your description of the problem, I believe you 
 gave yourself the answer.  You said that when you launch your app, the 
 prefs aren't loaded until you manually open and then close the prefs 
 stack. This is because you have the call to do so in the prefs stack 
 itself and unless you open it, the preopenstack handler in it doesn't 
 fire.  You open the prefs stack, and viola' it fires and everything is 
 peachy. 
 
 I'm not sure its the best way, but if you have a preopenstack handler 
 in your app stack, and have it check for a preferences file and do the 
 load itself, then the problem should be solved.  If the preferences 
 file doesn't exist, load the preferences stack, get the user to fill 
 it in, and when the prefs are saved, tell the appstack to try and 
 reload the preferences file. 
 
 On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 8:33 AM, charles61 [hidden email] wrote:
 
  
  I have two stacks: a splash and an app stack (S504). I have a stack prefs 
  which is part of the app stack. The Prefs stack is not moved out as a 
  separate stack when the standalone is made. I used an installer to install 
  my program in the AllUsersAppData directory for windows Xp. 
  
  When I run the installed Window app, I open the Prefs stack and entered 
  information into six fields: myCounty, school system, site, agent, contact 
  and email. I closed the Prefs stack and then quit my app. When I relaunched 
  my app, the fields cited above are not filled in my app. But I open the 
  Prefs stack, the fields are filled in. When I closed the Prefs stack, then 
  the fields in my app are filled. 
  
  I would appreciate suggestions on how I can get my preferences into my app! 
  
  I have the following script in my Prefs stack: 
  
  on preOpenStack 
set the loc of me to the loc of stack S504 
loadPrefs 
  end preOpenStack 
  
  on closeStack 
saveprefs 
  end closeStack 
  
  on loadPrefs pFilename 
local tPrefs 
  
--   put url (binfile:  pFilename) into tPrefs 
IF the platform is MacOS 
then 
   put url (binfile:  specialFolderPath(preferences)  /  
  S504_prefs) into tPrefs 
end if 
  
IF the platform is win32 
then 
   put url (binfile:  specialFolderPath(26)  /  S504_prefs) into 
  tPrefs 
end if 
  
put arrayDecode(tPrefs) into tPrefs 
  
-- now fill in all my data... 
put tPrefs[county] into field myCounty of card id 1002 of stack 
  prefs 
put tPrefs[county] into field school system of card referral of 
  stack S504 
--   put tPrefs[county] into field site of card adult of stack 
  S504 
  
put tPrefs[school] into field mySchool of card id 1002 of stack 
  prefs 
put tPrefs[school] into field school of card referral of stack 
  S504 
put tPrefs[school] into field site of card adult of stack S504 
  
put tPrefs[agent] into field agent of card id 1002 of stack prefs 
put tPrefs[agent] into field agent of card letter of stack S504 
put tPrefs[agent] into field agent of card adult letter of stack 
  S504 
  
put tPrefs[contact] into field contact of card id 1002 of stack 
  prefs 
put tPrefs[contact] into field contact of card letter of stack 
  S504 
put tPrefs[contact] into field contact of card adult letter of 
  stack S504 
  
put tPrefs[email] into field email of card id 1002 of stack prefs 
put tPrefs[email] into field email of card letter of stack S504 
put tPrefs[email] into field email of card adult letter of stack 
  S504 
  end loadPrefs 
  
  on savePrefs pFilename 
local tPrefs 
  
--Fill in all of my data 
put field myCounty into tPrefs[county] 
put field mySchool into tPrefs[school] 
put field agent into tPrefs[agent] 
put field contact into tPrefs[contact] 
put field email into tPrefs[email] 
  
IF the platform is MacOS 
then 
   put arrayEncode(tPrefs) into url (binfile:  
  specialFolderPath(preferences)  /  S504_prefs) 
  
end if 
  
IF the platform is win32 
then 
   put arrayEncode(tPrefs) into url (binfile:  specialFolderPath(26)  
  /  S504_prefs) 
  
end if 
  
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Unable to save prefs in Windows/Mac standalones

2010-07-22 Thread charles61


I have two stacks: a splash and an app stack (S504). I have a stack prefs
which is part of the app stack. The Prefs stack is not moved out as a
separate stack when the standalone is made. I used an installer to install
my program in the AllUsersAppData directory for windows Xp. 

When I run the installed Window app, I open the Prefs stack and entered
information into six fields: myCounty, school system, site, agent, contact
and email. I closed the Prefs stack and then quit my app. When I relaunched
my app, the fields cited above are not filled in my app. But I open the
Prefs stack, the fields are filled in. When I closed the Prefs stack, then
the fields in my app are filled. 

I would appreciate suggestions on how to correct this problem!

I have the following script in my Prefs stack:

on preOpenStack
   set the loc of me to the loc of stack S504
   loadPrefs
end preOpenStack

on closeStack
   saveprefs
end closeStack

on loadPrefs pFilename
   local tPrefs
   
   --   put url (binfile:  pFilename) into tPrefs
   IF the platform is MacOS 
   then 
  put url (binfile:  specialFolderPath(preferences)  / 
S504_prefs) into tPrefs
   end if
   
   IF the platform is win32 
   then 
  put url (binfile:  specialFolderPath(26)  /  S504_prefs) into
tPrefs
   end if
   
   put arrayDecode(tPrefs) into tPrefs
   
   -- now fill in all my data...
   put tPrefs[county] into field myCounty of card id 1002 of stack
prefs
   put tPrefs[county] into field school system of card referral of
stack S504
   --   put tPrefs[county] into field site of card adult of stack
S504
   
   put tPrefs[school] into field mySchool of card id 1002 of stack
prefs
   put tPrefs[school] into field school of card referral of stack
S504
   put tPrefs[school] into field site of card adult of stack S504
   
   put tPrefs[agent] into field agent of card id 1002 of stack prefs
   put tPrefs[agent] into field agent of card letter of stack S504
   put tPrefs[agent] into field agent of card adult letter of stack
S504
   
   put tPrefs[contact] into field contact of card id 1002 of stack
prefs
   put tPrefs[contact] into field contact of card letter of stack
S504
   put tPrefs[contact] into field contact of card adult letter of
stack S504
   
   put tPrefs[email] into field email of card id 1002 of stack prefs
   put tPrefs[email] into field email of card letter of stack S504
   put tPrefs[email] into field email of card adult letter of stack
S504
end loadPrefs

on savePrefs pFilename
   local tPrefs
   
   --Fill in all of my data
   put field myCounty into tPrefs[county]
   put field mySchool into tPrefs[school]
   put field agent into tPrefs[agent]
   put field contact into tPrefs[contact]
   put field email into tPrefs[email]
   
   IF the platform is MacOS 
   then 
  put arrayEncode(tPrefs) into url (binfile: 
specialFolderPath(preferences)  /  S504_prefs)
   
   end if
   
   IF the platform is win32 
   then 
  put arrayEncode(tPrefs) into url (binfile:  specialFolderPath(26) 
/  S504_prefs)
   
   end if
   
end savePrefs


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Unable to save prefs in Windows/Mac standalones

2010-07-22 Thread charles61


I have two stacks: a splash and an app stack (S504). I have a stack prefs
which is part of the app stack. The Prefs stack is not moved out as a
separate stack when the standalone is made. I used an installer to install
my program in the AllUsersAppData directory for windows Xp. 

When I run the installed Window app, I open the Prefs stack and entered
information into six fields: myCounty, school system, site, agent, contact
and email. I closed the Prefs stack and then quit my app. When I relaunched
my app, the fields cited above are not filled in my app. But I open the
Prefs stack, the fields are filled in. When I closed the Prefs stack, then
the fields in my app are filled. 

I would appreciate suggestions on how to correct this problem!

I have the following script in my Prefs stack:

on preOpenStack
   set the loc of me to the loc of stack S504
   loadPrefs
end preOpenStack

on closeStack
   saveprefs
end closeStack

on loadPrefs pFilename
   local tPrefs
   
   --   put url (binfile:  pFilename) into tPrefs
   IF the platform is MacOS 
   then 
  put url (binfile:  specialFolderPath(preferences)  / 
S504_prefs) into tPrefs
   end if
   
   IF the platform is win32 
   then 
  put url (binfile:  specialFolderPath(26)  /  S504_prefs) into
tPrefs
   end if
   
   put arrayDecode(tPrefs) into tPrefs
   
   -- now fill in all my data...
   put tPrefs[county] into field myCounty of card id 1002 of stack
prefs
   put tPrefs[county] into field school system of card referral of
stack S504
   --   put tPrefs[county] into field site of card adult of stack
S504
   
   put tPrefs[school] into field mySchool of card id 1002 of stack
prefs
   put tPrefs[school] into field school of card referral of stack
S504
   put tPrefs[school] into field site of card adult of stack S504
   
   put tPrefs[agent] into field agent of card id 1002 of stack prefs
   put tPrefs[agent] into field agent of card letter of stack S504
   put tPrefs[agent] into field agent of card adult letter of stack
S504
   
   put tPrefs[contact] into field contact of card id 1002 of stack
prefs
   put tPrefs[contact] into field contact of card letter of stack
S504
   put tPrefs[contact] into field contact of card adult letter of
stack S504
   
   put tPrefs[email] into field email of card id 1002 of stack prefs
   put tPrefs[email] into field email of card letter of stack S504
   put tPrefs[email] into field email of card adult letter of stack
S504
end loadPrefs

on savePrefs pFilename
   local tPrefs
   
   --Fill in all of my data
   put field myCounty into tPrefs[county]
   put field mySchool into tPrefs[school]
   put field agent into tPrefs[agent]
   put field contact into tPrefs[contact]
   put field email into tPrefs[email]
   
   IF the platform is MacOS 
   then 
  put arrayEncode(tPrefs) into url (binfile: 
specialFolderPath(preferences)  /  S504_prefs)
   
   end if
   
   IF the platform is win32 
   then 
  put arrayEncode(tPrefs) into url (binfile:  specialFolderPath(26) 
/  S504_prefs)
   
   end if
   
end savePrefs


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A problem with radio buttons group...

2010-07-13 Thread charles61


I have two groups of button sets, part1 and part2. Each group has two
buttons: Part1 group: buttons 1a and 1b; and Part2 group: buttons 2a and 2b. 

The following script is on a single card with the card script setting groups
of buttons to zero when the user gets to the card. I get the desire effect
of showing a certain message (noman) when both buttons 1a and 2a are
highlighted or another message (man) when either button 1b or 2b is
highlighted. 

But here is my problem. Before the user selects a second button from the
second group, I get the message man which is not supposed to appear until
both choices are made in the two button groups. How can I correct this
script so that the message is Not shown UNTIL after both buttons are shown?

switch
  case (hilite of button part1a of group part1 = true and hilite of
button part2a of group part2  = true)
 show field noman
 hide field man
 break
  case (hilite of button part1a of group part1 = false and hilite of
button part2a of group part2  = true)
 show field man
 hide field noman
 break
  case (hilite of button part1a of group part1 = false and hilite of
button part2a of group part2  = false)
 show field man
 hide field noman
 break
  case (hilite of button part1a of group part1  = true and hilite of
button part2a of group part2  = false)
 show field man
 hide field noman
 break
   end switch
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Re: A problem with radio buttons group...

2010-07-13 Thread charles61

Hi Mike!

Thanks for your help! I just finished looking at your suggestions and your
explanations for it. I see what you are talking about. I changed my script and
it works just the way I want it to. Thanks again!

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com

On Jul 13, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Mike Bonner [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

The reason it is behaving this way is you are checking for a false in
your case statements. You only really care about which buttons are
true. If you check against false you get a match before the 2nd click
because the condition started out as false.

Switch your logic around to only check for true/true only. So for
example your second case checks part1a of group part1 is false, simply
change the check to group part1b true and you get the correct result
of 1b is checked, but don't get any false positives if nothing is
chosen.
Same for the 3rd case, change both to true checking the opposite
button, so would check for part1b true and part2b true. 4th case,
check for part2b true as your change there.

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:34 PM, charles61 [hidden email] wrote:

I have two groups of button sets, part1 and part2. Each group has two
buttons: Part1 group: buttons 1a and 1b; and Part2 group: buttons 2a and
2b.

The following script is on a single card with the card script setting
groups
of buttons to zero when the user gets to the card. I get the desire effect
of showing a certain message (noman) when both buttons 1a and 2a are
highlighted or another message (man) when either button 1b or 2b is
highlighted.

But here is my problem. Before the user selects a second button from the
second group, I get the message man which is not supposed to appear until
both choices are made in the two button groups. How can I correct this
script so that the message is Not shown UNTIL after both buttons are shown?

switch
case (hilite of button part1a of group part1 = true and hilite of
button part2a of group part2 = true)
show field noman
hide field man
break
case (hilite of button part1a of group part1 = false and hilite of
button part2a of group part2 = true)
show field man
hide field noman
break
case (hilite of button part1a of group part1 = false and hilite of
button part2a of group part2 = false)
show field man
hide field noman
break
case (hilite of button part1a of group part1 = true and hilite of
button part2a of group part2 = false)
show field man
hide field noman
break
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New Window App allows programming for iPhone!


I just came across a link to a new Windows program, DragonFireSDK, that
allows Windows users to program for the iPhone without using Apple's SDK. I
believe the program sells for $49. I went to the site last night but did not
write down the details. I tried to go to the site a moment ago to confirm
the price but I could not access it. I guess the site may be getting a lot
of hits today! 
DragonFireSDK includes a cross-platform library and an iPhone simulator. The
program uses C/C++ language. Here is the link: http://www.dragonfiresdk.com/
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A problem with this prefers script...


I am trying to set up a preference file. I have two stacks - a splash stack
and an app stack. The Prefs stack is a substack of the app stack and is not
a separate stack I trying to use the url and binfile with specialfolder to
set up my preference file in the appropriate place for windows
(specialFolderPath(26) ) and mac (specialFolderPath(preferences)).

I am getting an error message for  

put arrayDecode(tPrefs) into tPrefs

in the following script for the Prefs stack when I select Preferences from
the menu of my app during the run mode:

on preOpenStack
   set the loc of me to the loc of stack S504
   loadPrefs
end preOpenStack

on closeStack
   saveprefs
end closeStack

on loadPrefs pFilename
   local tPrefs
   
   IF the platform is MacOS    I added this to retrieve the prefs
file for both Mac and Windows
   then 
  put url (binfile:  specialFolderPath(preferences)) into tPrefs 
   end if
   
   IF the platform is win32 
   then 
  put url (binfile:  specialFolderPath(26)) into tPrefs  
   end if
   
   put arrayDecode(tPrefs) into tPrefs  This is being being
flagged when I select Prefs from the menu in the run mode.
   
   -- Fill in all prefs data...
   put tPrefs[Myschool] into field MySchool
   put tPrefs[Myschool] into field school system of card referral of
stack S504
   put tPrefs[agent] into field agent
   put tPrefs[agent] into field agent of card letter of stack S504
   put tPrefs[agent] into field agent of card adult letter of stack
S504
   put tPrefs[contact] into field contact
   put tPrefs[contact] into field contact of card letter of stack
S504
   put tPrefs[contact] into field contact of card adult letter of
stack S S504
   put tPrefs[email] into field email
   put tPrefs[email] into field email of card letter of stack S504
   put tPrefs[email] into field email of card adult letter of stack
S504
end loadPrefs

on savePrefs pFilename
   local tPrefs
   
   --fill in all of my data
   put field mySchool into tPrefs[school name]
   put field agent into tPrefs[agent]
   put field contact into tPrefs[contact]
   put field email into tPrefs[email]
   
   IF the platform is MacOS 
   then 
  put arrayEncode(tPrefs) into url (binfile: 
specialFolderPath(preferences)) -- I added this to save the prefs file
for Mac
   end if
   
   IF the platform is win32 
   then 
  put arrayEncode(tPrefs) into url (binfile:  specialFolderPath(26))
--- I added this to save the prefs file for Windows
   end if
   
end savePrefs

I would appreciate any help I can get on this script! This is my first
endeavor with using an array, binfile and specialFolderpath!

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Re: A problem with this prefers script...


Klaus,

Thank! I understand now that I left out the name of the file. But what is the 
suffix at the end of your_prefs_file.prf?

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com




On Jul 7, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Klaus on-rev [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

 Hi Charles, 
 
  
  I am trying to set up a preference file. I have two stacks - a splash stack 
  and an app stack. The Prefs stack is a substack of the app stack and is not 
  a separate stack I trying to use the url and binfile with specialfolder to 
  set up my preference file in the appropriate place for windows 
  (specialFolderPath(26) ) and mac (specialFolderPath(preferences)). 
 
 These functions will only return a path to a FOLDER, 
 as the name specialFOLDERpath suggests! 
 You have to provide a filename, too! 
 
 Like: 
 ... 
 specialFolderPath(26)  /  your_prefs_file.prf 
 ... 
 
  
  I am getting an error message for   
  ... 
 
 See above binfile:... requires a filename but you only supply a FOLDER. 
 
 
 Best 
 
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