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Hi to those familiar with the animation engine.

I'd like to animate the contents on a stack or a card or even a field, to
animate the contents like turning a page of a book/magazine/newspaper. It
would turn from the top-right to bottom-left. Or something like that.
This would have to be a cross-platform solution.

Q: Can the animation do this?
Or
Q: can I do this without the animation engine, and do it with the RunRev
engine alone?

If so how?

Regards,
Mark Stuart
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Re: Animate contents of a stack/card to turn like a page

Hi Richard,
I checked that out. Nice :) I didn't know that QT was responsible for the
effects.
I applied it using the visual effect... commands.
Using:
visual effect scroll down very fast
go to card 2
This would simulate to a degree.

But nothing like capturing an image of the card, then applying a page-curl
transition to that would be awesome.

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Richard Gaskin wrote:

Q: Can the animation do this?
Or
Q: can I do this without the animation engine, and do it with the RunRev
engine alone?

If so how?

Good news: the answer effect command gives you access to QuickTime's
transition dialog, which provides a stunning variety of transition
effects.

Bad news: page turning isn't among them.* :(

I good page-curling transition would be nice to have, but I'm not sue it
could even be done with an external (is there an API for imaging
unopened cards?).

You might consider submitting a request for that. In the meantime, you
may have to make due with something like the push effect for now.

* Also absent from that QT dialog is the Ken Burns effect, in which
images are moved, zoomed, and faded simultaneously during the
transition. It's a gorgeous effect, and since it's used in multiple
apps in OS X I suspect there's an API for it somewhere. But it's not in
the QT dialog we get with answer effect, and I've found no way to
emulate it in scripting.

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Re: Animate contents of a stack/card to turn like a page

Hi Chris,
I checked out the example. Since I develop on Windows, I couldn't see the
core image sampler work.
I'm sure this works on Mac OS.

It'll have to be:
visual effect scroll down very fast
go to card 2
for now.

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Chris Sheffield-2 wrote:

Not sure what the requirements are, but there is a CoreImage page curl
transition. This would be Mac only, of course. There's a core image
sampler stack located in Resources/Examples of your Revolution folder.
Version 2.6 and above I believe. Not sure if there's something similar
for Windows or not.

Chris

On Mar 30, 2009, at 11:29 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

mfstuart wrote:
I'd like to animate the contents on a stack or a card or even a
field, to
animate the contents like turning a page of a book/magazine/
newspaper. It
would turn from the top-right to bottom-left. Or something like that.
This would have to be a cross-platform solution.
Q: Can the animation do this?
Or
Q: can I do this without the animation engine, and do it with the
RunRev
engine alone?
If so how?

Good news: the answer effect command gives you access to
QuickTime's transition dialog, which provides a stunning variety of
transition effects.

Bad news: page turning isn't among them.* :(

I good page-curling transition would be nice to have, but I'm not
sue it could even be done with an external (is there an API for
imaging unopened cards?).

You might consider submitting a request for that. In the meantime,
you may have to make due with something like the push effect for
now.

* Also absent from that QT dialog is the Ken Burns effect, in which
images are moved, zoomed, and faded simultaneously during the
transition. It's a gorgeous effect, and since it's used in multiple
apps in OS X I suspect there's an API for it somewhere. But it's
not in the QT dialog we get with answer effect, and I've found no
way to emulate it in scripting.

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Re: Animate contents of a stack/card to turn like a page

Hi Tom,
Not having a Mac, I'll be asking a friend to test that on their laptop.
In your script, can I swap out... show image Target Image... for show card
2...?

Regards,
Mark Stuart

Thomas McGrath III-3 wrote:

Here is a sample code for a good page curl using the OSX only core
image effect:

show image Target Image with visual effect CIPageCurlTransition
slow with angle -2.610663 and backsideImage id 5290 and extent
(0,0,400,300) and radius 196.18 and shadingImage id 5295

FWIW

Tom McGrath III
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3mcgr...@comcast.net

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On Mar 30, 2009, at 2:52 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:

Mark,

You could send 'someone' screenshots to apply that curl effect and
then have them screen capture it. Just a thought.

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On Mar 30, 2009, at 2:02 PM, mfstuart wrote:

Hi Chris,
I checked out the example. Since I develop on Windows, I couldn't
see the
core image sampler work.
I'm sure this works on Mac OS.

It'll have to be:
visual effect scroll down very fast
go to card 2
for now.

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Chris Sheffield-2 wrote:

Not sure what the requirements are, but there is a CoreImage page
curl
transition. This would be Mac only, of course. There's a core image
sampler stack located in Resources/Examples of your Revolution
folder.
Version 2.6 and above I believe. Not sure if there's something
similar
for Windows or not.

Chris

On Mar 30, 2009, at 11:29 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

mfstuart wrote:
I'd like to animate the contents on a stack or a card or even a
field, to
animate the contents like turning a page of a book/magazine/
newspaper. It
would turn from the top-right to bottom-left. Or something like
that.
This would have to be a cross-platform solution.
Q: Can the animation do this?
Or
Q: can I do this without the animation engine, and do it with the
RunRev
engine alone?
If so how?

Good news: the answer effect command gives you access to
QuickTime's transition dialog, which provides a stunning variety of
transition effects.

Bad news: page turning isn't among them.* :(

I good page-curling transition would be nice to have, but I'm not
sue it could even be done with an external (is there an API for
imaging unopened cards?).

You might consider submitting a request for that. In the meantime,
you may have to make due with something like the push effect for
now.

* Also absent from that QT dialog is the Ken Burns effect, in which
images are moved, zoomed, and faded simultaneously during the
transition. It's a gorgeous effect, and since it's used in
multiple
apps in OS X I suspect there's an API for it somewhere. But it's
not in the QT dialog we get with answer effect, and I've found no
way to emulate it in scripting.

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Re: launch URL does not open Outlook

2009-03-25 Thread mfstuart


Hi Matthias,
I appreciate the reply :)
I have an email to RunRev support to address this issue, so I'm waiting for
a response.
To know what makes a successful launch and what makes it fail.
I'm a purist in the sense that software should work as designed.
Meanwhile, I will check out Sean's library.

Regards,
Mark Stuart



runrev260805 wrote:
 
 Hi Mark,
 i remember, that i had a similar problem some time ago here under windows.
 The problem was, that text bigger than about 1500 characters could not be
 sent completely to the mail client. It was cut off at about 1500
 characters.
 I am not sure for what reason, but i t didn´t work. Maybe a mapi32.dll
 thing.
 
 To get my app release in time i decided to use Shao Sean´s SMTP-library,
 which sends the email directly without Outlook. 
 
 I use the library quiet often in my projects, because i am creating report
 software with automatic email delivery, which should run unattended.
 
 Don´t know, if this helps, but hope so.
 
 Regards,
 
 Matthias
 
 
 
 
  Original Message 
 Subject: launch URL does not open Outlook (24-Mrz-2009 20:58)
 From:mfstu...@cox.net
 To:  runrev260...@m-r-d.de
 
 Hi all,
 I have a script that uses launch URL theURL to open Outlook, but 
 sometimes it doesn't open it.
 theURL = mailto:m...@somecompany.com?subject=blah blah blahBody=This is 
 the message body text, with sometimes lots of text. And sometimes a small 
 amount of text.
 
 I think the amount of text in the body doesn't matter, as in one test the 
 body text was only a few sentences, and Outlook didn't launch.
 
 I've tried it on Outlook 200 and 2003 - same results.
 
 Anybody with some ideas on this as to why Outlook doesn't open?
 
 Regards,
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Re: launch URL does not open Outlook

2009-03-25 Thread mfstuart


Hi Sarah,
Jacque emailed my off line and suggested checking that each character was
within 1 to 255 - charToNum(theChar).
So I created a simple stack with a repeat for each char theChar in
theMessageText.
And found no chars outside that range.
For instance: Björnke - each character is within 1 to 255.
I'm assuming this is the way to do this?

Also, what is non-standard characters, I guess is the question from me?

Regards,
Mark Stuart

p.s. Sarah - I'm getting close to beta testing again.



Sarah Reichelt-2 wrote:
 
 Mark, are there any non-standard characters in your email? I don't
 often use Windows, but I seem to remember having a problem with
 accented characters in the body of an email.
 
 Cheers,
 Sarah
 
 
 On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:32 AM, mfstuart mfstu...@cox.net wrote:

 Hi Matthias,
 I appreciate the reply :)
 I have an email to RunRev support to address this issue, so I'm waiting
 for
 a response.
 To know what makes a successful launch and what makes it fail.
 I'm a purist in the sense that software should work as designed.
 Meanwhile, I will check out Sean's library.

 Regards,
 Mark Stuart



 runrev260805 wrote:

 Hi Mark,
 i remember, that i had a similar problem some time ago here under
 windows.
 The problem was, that text bigger than about 1500 characters could not
 be
 sent completely to the mail client. It was cut off at about 1500
 characters.
 I am not sure for what reason, but i t didn´t work. Maybe a mapi32.dll
 thing.

 To get my app release in time i decided to use Shao Sean´s SMTP-library,
 which sends the email directly without Outlook.

 I use the library quiet often in my projects, because i am creating
 report
 software with automatic email delivery, which should run unattended.

 Don´t know, if this helps, but hope so.

 Regards,

 Matthias




  Original Message 
 Subject: launch URL does not open Outlook (24-Mrz-2009 20:58)
 From:    mfstu...@cox.net
 To:      runrev260...@m-r-d.de

 Hi all,
 I have a script that uses launch URL theURL to open Outlook, but
 sometimes it doesn't open it.
 theURL = mailto:m...@somecompany.com?subject=blah blah blahBody=This
 is
 the message body text, with sometimes lots of text. And sometimes a
 small
 amount of text.

 I think the amount of text in the body doesn't matter, as in one test
 the
 body text was only a few sentences, and Outlook didn't launch.

 I've tried it on Outlook 200 and 2003 - same results.

 Anybody with some ideas on this as to why Outlook doesn't open?

 Regards,
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launch URL does not open Outlook

2009-03-24 Thread mfstuart

Hi all,
I have a script that uses launch URL theURL to open Outlook, but sometimes it 
doesn't open it.
theURL = mailto:m...@somecompany.com?subject=blah blah blahBody=This is the 
message body text, with sometimes lots of text. And sometimes a small amount of 
text.

I think the amount of text in the body doesn't matter, as in one test the body 
text was only a few sentences, and Outlook didn't launch.

I've tried it on Outlook 200 and 2003 - same results.

Anybody with some ideas on this as to why Outlook doesn't open?

Regards,
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Docking Panes

2009-03-19 Thread mfstuart


Hi all,

Has anyone been able to build a RunRev application with the concept of
docking panes?
Here's a company that has COM and ActiveX objects that allows you to do just
that on Windows:

Check it out...
http://www.codejock.com/products/dockingpane/

We currently use their Report Control in our CRM application. Actually,
Microsoft uses a lot of their controls in Outlook. The email list is one way
to use the Report Control.

I know RunRev doesn't support these objects, but it must be possible to
build a docking pane UI?
I'd like to use this in an application I'm building, and would be interested
in prototyping this with some folk.

What do you say?

Mark Stuart
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Re: Hilighting of selected row in Option button, doesn't hilight

2009-03-05 Thread mfstuart

Hi all,
After all this, I've found that this is a Windows OS issue.
So I've created a Bugzilla entry # 7779.

I've also attached screen shots of the way it currently behaves and another
showing the way it is expected to behave on Windows OS.

I believe from your replies to this issue that this behaves correctly on
MacOS.

As for Linux, it would be great if those with that platform could test this
scenario.
Please read the threads here, as to the original issue.

Regards,
Mark Stuart

J. Landman Gay wrote:

mfstuart wrote:
Hi Mark,
The example I'm playing with, I created on a new stack. It's the only
object
on it.
I just tried the combo button, and I get the same result as I did with
the
option button - no go.
I've tried this example stack on 2 WinXP computers with RunRev 3.0 - same
results.

Anyone else getting the same result as me?

Oh. It's Windows -- I missed that. On Mac the behavior you want is the
default but on Windows it works as you describe. On that OS the menus
always display as a drop-down list. It responds to keyboard input so the
user can select with arrow keys and the return/enter key. Combo buttons
are the same. Popup buttons display the list at the location of the
cursor on either OS.

If you want to branch the code for the platform, you might be able to
use the popup command and put up a custom button list or stack. You'd
have to calculate the popup position and list selection in a script, but
it would let you put the menu wherever you want on screen.

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Re: Hilighting of selected row in Option button, doesn't hilight

2009-03-04 Thread mfstuart


Hi Jacque and all,
I worked a sample script for the Option button, and I'm still not getting
the line in the text of the button to hi-light, when clicking on the button
a 2nd time.
Here's my script:
==
on menuPick pItemName
   --this script borrowed from Ken Ray from an archive search :)
   lock messages
   --get/set the menuHistory
   put lineOffset(pItemName,the text of me) into tNum
   if tNum  0 then
  set the menuHistory of me to tNum
   end if
   unlock messages
end menuPick
==

What am I missing here?

Regards,
Mark Stuart



J. Landman Gay wrote:
 
 mfstuart wrote:
 
 When I click on the Option button again, it opens the list of items, but
 the
 previously selected label isn't shown as hi-lighted in that list of
 values.
 When I mouse over the list, wherever the pointer is. it hi-lights that
 line.
 So I know that it is nothing to do with opaque settings and the like.
 
 This is another instance where you'd want to set the menuHistory rather 
 than the label. Setting the menuHistory of the button is exactly like a 
 user clicking and selecting the line. It sends a menupick message to 
 the button, scrolls the lines so that the right one is hilited, and 
 remembers the position the next time the user clicks on it.
 
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Re: Hilighting of selected row in Option button, doesn't hilight

2009-03-04 Thread mfstuart


Hi Mark,
It's not the label I'm wanting to set... set the label of me to vWhatEver.
It's the previously selected item in the button list that I want hi-lighted.

Let me explain with an example:

The object is an Option button.
The text property has: Choice 1, Choice 2, and Choice 3.

For the first time, I click in the option button and make a selection:
Choice 2.
Now when I click in the option button again, the following should happen...
- the list opens showing 3 items, as defined above. (works as it does)
- the previously selected item (Choice 2 in this example) should be
hi-lighted with the blue/navy line. (doesn't happen) This is the issue. The
RunRev engine should do the hi-lighting of the item in the list for this
object, the option button. The developer shouldn't have to script this.

I've seen many other development software, where this happens natively.
This behavior is to let the user know where in the list they made the
selection.

I hope I'm making this clearer to understand.

Regards,
Mark Stuart



Mark Swindell wrote:
 
 Mark,
 
 If you add in:
 
 set the label of me to vWhatEver
 
 after the IF tNum...end IF
 
 does it not work like you want?  Here, the label is set to a unique  
 vWhatEver, and the previous menuChoice is hilited and selected when  
 you return to click on the button.
 
 Mark
 
 On Mar 4, 2009, at 9:04 AM, mfstuart wrote:
 
 on menuPick pItemName
   --this script borrowed from Ken Ray from an archive search :)
   lock messages
   --get/set the menuHistory
   put lineOffset(pItemName,the text of me) into tNum
   if tNum  0 then
  set the menuHistory of me to tNum
   end if
   unlock messages
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Re: Hilighting of selected row in Option button, doesn't hilight

2009-03-04 Thread mfstuart


Hi Mark,
The example I'm playing with, I created on a new stack. It's the only object
on it.
I just tried the combo button, and I get the same result as I did with the
option button - no go.
I've tried this example stack on 2 WinXP computers with RunRev 3.0 - same
results.

Anyone else getting the same result as me?

Regards,
Mark Stuart



Mark Swindell wrote:
 
 Strange.  I'm not sure what's going on for you, but the behavior you  
 want is the behavior I get with the template combo button.   How does  
 a fresh combo button behave if you just drag a new one onto a new  
 stack?   I was thinking the issue was that you wanted to set the label  
 to some custom string, yet maintain the previous state and menu items  
 when clicking on it.
 
 Mark
 
 
 
 On Mar 4, 2009, at 4:30 PM, mfstuart wrote:
 

 Hi Mark,
 It's not the label I'm wanting to set... set the label of me to  
 vWhatEver.
 It's the previously selected item in the button list that I want hi- 
 lighted.

 Let me explain with an example:

 The object is an Option button.
 The text property has: Choice 1, Choice 2, and Choice 3.

 For the first time, I click in the option button and make a selection:
 Choice 2.
 Now when I click in the option button again, the following should  
 happen...
 - the list opens showing 3 items, as defined above. (works as it does)
 - the previously selected item (Choice 2 in this example) should be
 hi-lighted with the blue/navy line. (doesn't happen) This is the  
 issue. The
 RunRev engine should do the hi-lighting of the item in the list for  
 this
 object, the option button. The developer shouldn't have to script  
 this.

 I've seen many other development software, where this happens  
 natively.
 This behavior is to let the user know where in the list they made the
 selection.

 I hope I'm making this clearer to understand.

 Regards,
 Mark Stuart



 Mark Swindell wrote:

 Mark,

 If you add in:

 set the label of me to vWhatEver

 after the IF tNum...end IF

 does it not work like you want?  Here, the label is set to a unique
 vWhatEver, and the previous menuChoice is hilited and selected when
 you return to click on the button.

 Mark

 On Mar 4, 2009, at 9:04 AM, mfstuart wrote:

 on menuPick pItemName
  --this script borrowed from Ken Ray from an archive search :)
  lock messages
  --get/set the menuHistory
  put lineOffset(pItemName,the text of me) into tNum
  if tNum  0 then
 set the menuHistory of me to tNum
  end if
  unlock messages
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Hilighting of selected row in Option button, doesn't hilight

2009-03-03 Thread mfstuart


Hi all,
Why doesn't the already selected label in an Option button, show hi-lighted
in the list when clicking on the button?

I have an Option button on a card that has values in the text.
I select from the list and this puts the selected value into the label.
When I select from the same Option button again, the row in the list doesn't
show hi-lighted.

Why is this, and how do I get it to show selected in the list?
Would seem normal to do that in any other software.

Regards,
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Re: Hilighting of selected row in Option button, doesn't hilight

2009-03-03 Thread mfstuart

Hi Craig,
BTW, this is WINXP, with RunRev 3.0

No that's not it. This is an Option button.
It has several items in the text property.
I select one of the items, which puts the item value into the label
property.
When I click on the Option button again, it opens the list of items, but the
previously selected label isn't shown as hi-lighted in that list of values.
When I mouse over the list, wherever the pointer is. it hi-lights that line.
So I know that it is nothing to do with opaque settings and the like.

Any ideas?

Regards,
Mark Stuart

dunbarx wrote:

Do you mean that a hilited line in some sort of list or field
un-hilites when you move away to do something else? This is likely
normal behavior. I just had a similar issue, and assigned a custom
property to my object, a list field, so that it would have its hilited
lines restored when I returned

It required getting the hilitedLines property and setting a custom
property in my field to it. This way the field remembers which lines
were hilited when I left. The hilitedLines property is pretty cool,
and even works with discontiguous lines.

If this is even close to what you want, try it out, or write back for
more.

Craig Newman

On Mar 3, 2009, at 11:53:24 PM, mfstuart mfstu...@cox.net wrote:
I have an Option button on a card that has values in the text.
I select from the list and this puts the selected value into the label.
When I select from the same Option button again, the row in the list
doesn't
show hi-lighted.

Why is this, and how do I get it to show selected in the list?
Would seem normal to do that in any other software.

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Re: help

2009-02-26 Thread mfstuart


Oh man, how embarrassing :(
This email I didn't expect to get posted.

I've been reading the Mailman website
(http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html), and they have some
commands that if you put it in the subject and submit it to your forum,
the mailman will not post to the forum but respond by replying only to the
sender with what matches to the command.
At least that's how I understood it.

So sorry about that chief :)

Mark Stuart


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Re: La communauté Revolution est en deuil

2009-01-17 Thread mfstuart


Fo those, like myself, who do not speak the French language, here is the
translation to English of the original message from Jérôme:

I have just learnt that Éric Chatonet died on Wednesday. All my thoughts go
to his son and his family.

And I was going to make contact with him concerning a RunRev application
development.
Even thou I did not know him personally, my sincerest thoughts go to Eric's
family.

Regards,
Mark Stuart


Jérôme Rosat wrote:
 
 Bonjour,
 
 Je viens d'apprendre que Éric Chatonet est décédé mercredi. Toutes mes  
 pensées vont à son fils et sa famille.
 
 Jérôme
 
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Re: Reference Function Name Via Variable?

2009-01-15 Thread mfstuart


Hi Scott,

If the desired result is to display an answer dialog, then see if this works
for you:

on mouseUp
 put hello into pData1
 put world into pData2
 answer shout(pData1,pData2)
end mouseUp

function shout pData1,pData2
 return pData1  pData2  !
end shout

I put the exclamation mark in the function for you to see that the function
is still part of the solution.
Also, you could extrapulate the 'answer' with the icon and dialog title,
etc.

Regards,
Mark Stuart


Scott Rossi wrote:
 
 Hi List:
 
 Just curious...  Is there any way to construct a function using a name
 stored in a variable without resorting to do?  For example:
 
 on mouseUp
put hello into pData1
put world into pData2
put shout into test
do answer  test  (pData1,pData2)
 end mouseUp
 
 function shout pData1,pData2
return pData1  pData2
 end shout
 
 Can the last line of the mouseUp handler be written without do?  I'm not
 against using do, just wondering if there's another option.
 
 Thanks  Regards,
 
 Scott Rossi
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 Tactile Media, Multimedia  Design
 
 
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Re: SQLite repeated fields

2009-01-07 Thread mfstuart


Hi Sarah,
How familiar are you with the concept of Bill of Materials, Production
Orders, etc.?
Where a sellable (or shippable item) is made up of components, and the
components are assembled to gether with many other items - either purchased
or sub-assemblies.
This is the Bill of Materials - the structure of an item.

When a customer order is processed, the manufacturing dept produces the
Production Orders, which looks at the B.O.M. and produces the Manufacturing
B.O.M. - this is an expanded production order with all the customer orders
multiplied against the B.O.M., which the assembly plant knows how many to
make.

There are books on this on how to define the tables that hold the data, but
I'm sure you could find this info online. It's reasonably elementary.

If you need more help, let me know. :)

Regards,
Mark Stuart


Sarah Reichelt-2 wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 I'm setting up an SQLite database and having some problems with table
 design. The app is inventory control with a Make function i.e. it
 stores the quantities of each raw material you have and when you
 make a specified amount of a certain product, those amounts are
 automatically deducted from the raw material stocks.
 
 I have a very simple table for the raw materials, but the products
 table is not so obvious (at least not to me), mainly because each
 product will have a different number of items used in it's
 manufacture.
 
 Do I have to set up a large table allowing for the maximum possible
 number of items?
 e.g.
 product name
 product id
 item 1
 quantity 1
 item 2
 quantity 2
 .
 .
 .
 item 50
 quantity 50
 
 or is there any better way to hold a variable number of repeating fields?
 
 TIA,
 Sarah
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Re: Cross-tab report: from list

2009-01-05 Thread mfstuart


Hi Alex,
I can't believe the speed that this translates a vertical list to a
cross-tab format.
This is incredible!

Thanx for the script Alex. I'll do some more testing on missing months and
gaps in the years and get back to you.

Regards,
Mark Stuart



mfstuart wrote:
 Hi all,

 How do I manipulate the following data list into a spreadsheet (cross-tab
 report) format?

 I'm assuming arrays are in the works for this to build the spreadsheet
 data
 set, 
 but since I haven't worked with them, I'm not sure about that.

   
There is probably a faster way, or a more succinct way, using more 
complex arrays - but since you said you hadn't worked with arrays much, 
I kept the array use very simple.  Only tricky thing (I think) is the 
use of combine to convert the years array into a simple list (using the 
array eliminated duplicates easily).
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Re: Sending Email

2009-01-05 Thread mfstuart


Hi Bill,
The revMail command doesn't support BCC, as far as the documentation is
concerned. Unless there's a hidden option for this :(
Have you tried using the revGoURL 'mailto:' command to send email? It
launches the default email system, just as revMail does.
But using revGoURL 'mailto:' allows a lot more 'parameters', because it's
HTML syntax.

Here's a RunRev script that you can try using revGoURL:

--start of script -- look for line wraps in the script
on mouseUp
   --format the url
   --the subject value should not contain spaces. Therefore you will need to
replace spaces in the subject value with %20.
   put
mailto:shoreag...@gmail.com?subject=sending%20emailcc=b...@microsoft.combcc=st...@apple.combody=This
is a test into tURL
   --launch default email system
   --caveat emptor: the following command has been deprecated in v2.90, but
works none the less.
   revGoURL tURL
end mouseUp
--end of script --


Also...
Do a Google search with 'mailto:' and you'll find a lot hits on the syntax
for it, as well as the BCC.
Here's one I've used:
http://www.ianr.unl.edu/internet/mailto.html

Regards,
Mark Stuart




BILL HUMPHREY wrote:
 
 How do you send BCC with revEmail?
 In the dictionary I see:
 revMail address[,ccAddress[,mailSubject[,messageBody]]]
 with no mention of bccAddress
 
 Thanks
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Cross-tab report: from list

2009-01-02 Thread mfstuart


Hi all,

How do I manipulate the following data list into a spreadsheet (cross-tab
report) format?

I'm assuming arrays are in the works for this to build the spreadsheet data
set, 
but since I haven't worked with them, I'm not sure about that.

As you can see, the list contains repeating years and months for each year.
There can be many years, which are unknown before hand. Some of them not
consecutive in the list range. Same goes with the months.
So some kind of checking to see if the year has a complete 12 month list
would have to exist in the script logic.
Or maybe not.
The year and month names are in descending order in the list.

2009-January-109
2008-December-1009
2008-November-900
2008-October-1000
2008-September-1500
2008-August-800
2008-July-780
2008-June-950
2008-May-850
2008-April-1230
2008-March-1140
2008-February-1170
2008-January-1320
2007-December-900
etc
2007-January-1100
2006-December-950
etc
2006-January-1200
etc

So that the report appears as:

Month   2009  2008  2007  2006  2005 etc
January  109  1320  1100  1200   etc
February   0  1170   etc
March  0  1140   etc
April  0  1230   etc
May0   850   etc
June   0   950   etc
July   0   780   etc
August 0   800   etc
September  0  1500   etc
October0  1000   etc
November   0   900   etc
December   0  1009   etc
Totals: 2118 12649   etc

The 'etc' is just to note that the data continues in the actual report/list,
but for this purpose, it is to show formatting.

Regards,
Mark Stuart
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Re: Linux user Application Data folder path

2008-12-27 Thread mfstuart


Peter, that's quite a mouth full. And to digest it, is even more
overwhelming.
To understand and see it all will take some 'hands-on', I think.

So will have to lay low on that platform for some time, before getting the
resources for it.
Getting the application completed and working on Windows and MacOS is the
main focus, then Linux.
Which I'm sure will bring its own issues.

I'll make a copy of your explanation here for future referral.

Thanx and regards,
Mark Stuart



Peter Alcibiades wrote:
 
 Written in the hope that this will not be insultingly elementary!  But if
 you've no Linux installation handy, probably it won't be.  
 
 Probably the best thing would be to get a live CD and take a look at how
 it works.  A reasonable one would be Mandriva One 2009 Gnome, or 2008
 Spring KDE (not 2009 KDE).  Realize that you can install this and most
 other big distributions onto an existing Windows box, and it will take
 care of partitioning and so on and give you a dual boot system where you
 choose at boot time whether to run Windows or Linux.  I think this is a
 lot better than running Linux in a VM, but opinions do differ.
 
 Its not quite clear what you mean by 'the user applications folder'. 
 There isn't really any such thing in the way there is in Windows.
 Applications which are native to your distribution will usually be found
 in /usr/bin. But your user account will not be able to write to that. And
 that is not a collection of folders as you might expect from Windows, its
 a collection of binary files and some links. So to say that it is 'the
 user applications folder' is not really correct, and certainly you cannot
 put preferences and configuration files there. It is not really the
 applications folder, and it is not user specific but system wide. The
 libraries these binaries depend on will be in several places including
 user/lib.  All this should be left well alone.
 
 The configuration files for a particular user who is using a system wide
 application will be in /home/user.  For instance, for the text editor
 geany, they are in /home/user/.geany/geany.conf.  There is going to be one
 of these for every user account on the system.
 
 Decide whether you want your application installed for all users of the
 system or just the one signed on.  If the former, put it in /opt, and put
 a link to it someplace, like on the desktop, which will be
 /home/user/Desktop. You'll have to put a link in for each user in the
 different desktops.  You'll need the root password to write to /opt.
 
 If the latter, put it in /home/user.  Its not very common for software to
 be installed in the user's home folder, but it does happen.  My own rev
 software is there. I don't put it in a dot folder however, since I want to
 be able to get at it without looking through all the other invisible
 folders. So then it would be in /home/user/theapp, for instance.  If you
 do this, I would put the preferences in (for instance)
 /home/user/theapp/.theappprefs.  This will make the prefs file invisible,
 if that's what you want.
 
 The user can make them visible again by checking 'show hidden files' in
 the file manager.
 
 The default folder may not behave quite as expected.  Its may not end up
 being set as /home/user/theapp in the above example, but as /home/user, so
 you might have to set it explicitly to what you want, or have the user do
 it during installation.
 
 Be aware that your user need not necessarily have a desktop to put icons
 on.  That is, he'll always have a folder called /home/user/Desktop, but he
 may not be running a desktop environment or window manager which puts
 icons on the desktop in the Windows or MacOS way. Fluxbox is an example of
 a window manager like this.  It might be something to cover in the Readme.
 
 Peter
 
 
 
 mfstuart wrote:
 
 
 Hi Mark S.
 I can't try it because I don't have a Linux box available now.
 But will be putting the application out to beta sometime soon - next year
 :).
 
 So if I do the following:
   put specialFolderPath(Preferences) into tPath --for MacOS
   put specialFolderPath(26) into tPath --for Windows
   put ~/applications into tPath --for Linux
 
 This should return me the path to the users applications folder?
 And after that if I append the software company name  application name,
 this should be OK for storing application information, such application
 settings?
 
 Regards,
 Mark Stuart
 
 
 Mark Schonewille-3 wrote:
 
 Hi Mark,
 
 Try this: ~/applications
 
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 Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
 http://economy-x-talk.com
 http://www.salery.biz
 Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum
 
 We are always looking for new projects! Feel free to contact us to  
 discuss your custom software project!
 
 On 26 dec 2008, at 02:13, mfstuart wrote:
 

 Merry Christmas to all,

 As specialFolderPath(26) returns C:/Documents and Settings/user/ 
 Application
 Data on Windows,
 what is the equivilant on Linux?

 I need

Linux user Application Data folder path

2008-12-25 Thread mfstuart


Merry Christmas to all,

As specialFolderPath(26) returns C:/Documents and Settings/user/Application
Data on Windows,
what is the equivilant on Linux?

I need to know the path to the application data and then append the software
company name and application name to it.

Windows eg: C:/Documents and Settings/mark/Application
Data/SoftwareCompanyName/ApplicationName/

Regards,
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Re: Linux user Application Data folder path

2008-12-25 Thread mfstuart


Hi Mark S.
I can't try it because I don't have a Linux box available now.
But will be putting the application out to beta sometime soon - next year
:).

So if I do the following:
  put specialFolderPath(Preferences) into tPath --for MacOS
  put specialFolderPath(26) into tPath --for Windows
  put ~/applications into tPath --for Linux

This should return me the path to the users applications folder?
And after that if I append the software company name  application name,
this should be OK for storing application information, such application
settings?

Regards,
Mark Stuart


Mark Schonewille-3 wrote:
 
 Hi Mark,
 
 Try this: ~/applications
 
 --
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 Mark Schonewille
 
 Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
 http://economy-x-talk.com
 http://www.salery.biz
 Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum
 
 We are always looking for new projects! Feel free to contact us to  
 discuss your custom software project!
 
 On 26 dec 2008, at 02:13, mfstuart wrote:
 

 Merry Christmas to all,

 As specialFolderPath(26) returns C:/Documents and Settings/user/ 
 Application
 Data on Windows,
 what is the equivilant on Linux?

 I need to know the path to the application data and then append the  
 software
 company name and application name to it.

 Windows eg: C:/Documents and Settings/mark/Application
 Data/SoftwareCompanyName/ApplicationName/

 Regards,
 Mark Stuart
 
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Re: conditionally formatting a field

2008-12-18 Thread mfstuart


SparkOut,
The 'focusedObject' is the key script element for this to work.
Thanx for the scripts. It works exactly how I want it to. 

-
on mouseLeave
   if the focusedObject is the long id of me then
  set the borderColor of me to #00
   else
  set the borderColor of me to #ff
   end if
end mouseLeave
-

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conditionally formatting a field

2008-12-17 Thread mfstuart


Hi all,

I want to apply formatting to a field - 'set the borderColor of fld 1 to
black',
depending if the field has focus or not. The conditions apply to field 1
only.

Here's the condition for the field when tabbing between 2 fields:
If the field has focus, it's borderColor is black.
If the field loses focus, the bordColor is white.

Here's the condition for field 1 when mousing over and out of it, and when
field 1 has focus:
If the field has focus, don't change the borderColor. It stays black.
If the field is not focused, then change the borderColor to white.

So far I've tried scripts in the following handlers:
mouseEnter, mouseLeave, openField, exitField, and closeField.
And I'm not getting the result I want.

Anyone got any tips on how to do this?

To see it work, open Outlook and click on the Find toolbar button. 
It opens the find fields at the top of the email list.
Apply the behavior as above to see the results I'm looking for.
This is on Windows, and I'm not sure how Mac Outlook behaves.

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Copying standalone to PowerBook

2008-11-03 Thread mfstuart


Hi all,
I'm having an issue with my standalone application disappearing on a
PowerBook after its first use.
The second launch of the application, it doesn't start.

Here's what I did...
I developed an application on WinXP with RunRev v3.0.
Built the standalones for: PowerPC, Intel, and Windows; with the default
values in the application settings for each platform.
Copied each of the 3 standalone folders onto a USB 1GB drive.
Took it to the PowerBook, and copied the MacOSX PowerPC-32 folder to the
Applications folder using Finder.
Clicked on the application.app folder (under the above folder) and the
application launched. So far no problem.

I kept the Finder open to the application.app folder. It showed that the
application file size was 3.1 MB, on first launch of the application.
Now while using the application, the file size changed to 92 KB.
I then closed the application, and tried launching it again, and nothing -
it wouldn't load.

It seems as though the application was deleted.

What am I doing wrong?

Regards,
Mark Stuart

ps: Do I have to use an installer to get things in the proper
place/configuration to make it work correctly on Mac OSX platform?
Where Windows is just a copy and run the application.
BTW: I'm brand new to MacOS.
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Mac OS and Windows behavior difference

2008-10-31 Thread mfstuart


Hi all,
In the following script - inside a repeat:

  put Reading line...  tCount  of  TotalLineCount into fld
Status

The text and the number values are displayed on WinXP, using Rev: 3.0.
But on Mac OS X (PowerPC Only), it only displays Reading line The
number values don't appear at all.
There is no screen lock at all in the entire script.
This behavior appears in the standalone.
The development and standalone were built on WinXP.
The Mac OS X standalone was copied to a folder on the Mac for testing.

## Read each line in the download
put the number of lines in tData into TotalLineCount
put 0 to tCount

repeat for each line theLine in tData
  add 1 to tCount
  put Reading line...  tCount  of  TotalLineCount into fld
Status
end repeat
##

Anybody know what may cause this?

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Re: Mac OS and Windows behavior difference

2008-10-31 Thread mfstuart


Terry,
Thanx for the quick reply.
I'll get that tested next week, when the owner of the Mac laptop brings it
in.

BTW: isn't real early on Saturday morning in OZ?

Regards,
Mark Stuart



Terry Judd wrote:
 
 I've seen this sort of thing as well. Add in a 'wait 0 milliseconds' and
 it
 should update correctly.
 
 Terry...
 
 
 On 1/11/08 7:49 AM, mfstuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Hi all,
 In the following script - inside a repeat:
 
   put Reading line...  tCount  of  TotalLineCount into fld
 Status
 
 The text and the number values are displayed on WinXP, using Rev: 3.0.
 But on Mac OS X (PowerPC Only), it only displays Reading line The
 number values don't appear at all.
 There is no screen lock at all in the entire script.
 This behavior appears in the standalone.
 The development and standalone were built on WinXP.
 The Mac OS X standalone was copied to a folder on the Mac for testing.
 
 ## Read each line in the download
 put the number of lines in tData into TotalLineCount
 put 0 to tCount
 
 repeat for each line theLine in tData
   add 1 to tCount
   put Reading line...  tCount  of  TotalLineCount into fld
 Status
 end repeat
 ##
 
 Anybody know what may cause this?
 
 Regards,
 Mark Stuart
 
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Re: Anyone know how to read Palm pdb dbs?

2008-09-16 Thread mfstuart


Hi Chipp,
There's a download link near the top for this free utility...
http://compupro.biz/PDBExplorer.htm
I've used it in the past.

Regards,
Mark Stuart




Chipp Walters wrote:
 
 My Dad's Treo died and there's no way to get sync it with his computer. I
 was able to get his contacts off of it onto a SD card, but I don't have
 anyway of moving it out of the native pdb format spec. Turns out there's
 binary data mixed in with the rest (pictures for contacts)-- which I don't
 really need/want. But, I would like to be able to get the rest of the
 contact info.
 I seem to remember a pdb reader lib running around awhile back, but my
 Gmane
 searches don't show any links.
 
 Any help is much appreciated!
 
 -Chipp
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ini file question on the Mac

2008-08-11 Thread mfstuart


Hi all,

Please excuse my Mac ignorance as I'm a totally Windows guy, but...

As is an ini file for a Windows application, so is a ??? file on the Mac OS.
Could someone help me by filling in the ??? blank for the Mac OS?

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Re: ini file question on the Mac

2008-08-11 Thread mfstuart


Hi Mark,
Yes, I need to store preferences for an application on any of the Mac OS
versions.
This application is a single user standalone application.
So I would need to know the path and filename extension for this preferences
file.

On Windows, I would typically put this preferences file in the same folder
as the executable.
Filename: appname.ini
Would I assume the same on Mac?
Filename: appname.???  --this is where I need the correct filename extension
for the Mac OS.

Regards,
Mark Stuart



Mark Schonewille-3 wrote:
 
 Hi Mark,
 
 This is not the right question. What do you want to achieve?
 
 Do you want to store user settings? Do so in a preferences file in ~/ 
 user/library/preferences.
 
 Do you want tweak how the OS deals with your standalone? Plist might  
 be your friend.
 
 Want to store some default settings for when the application is  
 launched for the first time? Why not simply a custom property?
 
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 Hi all,

 Please excuse my Mac ignorance as I'm a totally Windows guy, but...

 As is an ini file for a Windows application, so is a ??? file on the  
 Mac OS.
 Could someone help me by filling in the ??? blank for the Mac OS?

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Re: ini file question on the Mac

2008-08-11 Thread mfstuart


Hi Phil, thanx for your reply.

But, is this a Mac OS policy that a preference file has to go into this
...appPrefs/ folder?
Or can the preference file reside with the application?

You see, I don't have a Mac to know these things.
I'll have to get with a friend who has one.

Regards,
Mark Stuart



Phil Davis-5 wrote:
 
 Hi Mark,
 
 mfstuart wrote:
 Hi Mark,
 Yes, I need to store preferences for an application on any of the Mac OS
 versions.
 This application is a single user standalone application.
 So I would need to know the path and filename extension for this
 preferences
 file.
   
 
 In Rev, this should give it to you:
 
   put specialFolderPath(Preferences) /appPrefs into tMyPrefsFile
  
 AFAIK, any (or no) file extension can be used... but there may be a 
 preferred extension that I'm ignorant of. You might take a look in the 
 folder whose path is returned and see what is used by others.
 
 Also, Ken Ray has a very nice list of specialFolderPath() values that 
 will take you pretty much wherever you want to go in the OS:
 
 http://sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/file010.htm
 
 HTH -
 Phil Davis
 
 On Windows, I would typically put this preferences file in the same
 folder
 as the executable.
 Filename: appname.ini
 Would I assume the same on Mac?
 Filename: appname.???  --this is where I need the correct filename
 extension
 for the Mac OS.

 Regards,
 Mark Stuart



 Mark Schonewille-3 wrote:
   
 Hi Mark,

 This is not the right question. What do you want to achieve?

 Do you want to store user settings? Do so in a preferences file in ~/ 
 user/library/preferences.

 Do you want tweak how the OS deals with your standalone? Plist might  
 be your friend.

 Want to store some default settings for when the application is  
 launched for the first time? Why not simply a custom property?

 --
 Best regards,

 Mark Schonewille

 Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
 http://economy-x-talk.com
 http://www.salery.biz

 Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See
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 On 11 aug 2008, at 17:47, mfstuart wrote:

 
 Hi all,

 Please excuse my Mac ignorance as I'm a totally Windows guy, but...

 As is an ini file for a Windows application, so is a ??? file on the  
 Mac OS.
 Could someone help me by filling in the ??? blank for the Mac OS?

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Re-2: Removing CRLF from text

2008-08-07 Thread mfstuart

Hi all,

I’ve tried all replies to this issue and the one that works is from Martin 
Baxter, using:
put URL (binfile:  tFilename) into tData
put tData into fld “Original”  --this results in displaying a “box” 
character at the end of each line

--now look for the set of string characters that I want to remove
put +  CRLF into tmatchstring   --the order that the string you’re 
looking for is important
replace tmatchstring with space in tData
replace   with empty in tData   --the replace character is the last char 
of each line from the “Original” field. I copied this character into the script
--place the result into a field for display
put tData into fld Changed

From my “Changed” field (the result of the script), I copied the text from it, 
saved it with Notepad and viewed the file with a Hex Editor.

The characters at the end of each line are:
(Hex=0d0d0a) which is 13 13 10

RunRev translation:
cr cr lf

Remember, this is all from using…
put URL (binfile:  tFilename) into tData

From the saved file above, I used it as the ini file for the software 
application, and the application works with it – no problem.

The net result is, this works using: put URL (“binfile:”….. when trying to do 
what I need to do …
… bring “broken” INI entries into one line, per ini entry.

Thanx all for your interesting responses. 

It shows how awesome, diverse and I might say in a nice way, indulgent, each 
RunRev developer is.

Regards,
Mark Stuart

p.s. I sent this same email from my work email address (which is not registered 
with this list), so you may see it twice.
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Removing CRLF from text

2008-08-06 Thread mfstuart


Hi,

RunRev: 2.90
OS: WinXP

I have a situation where a software application's ini file has the plus (+)
char and CRLF at the end of a line, when the line passes 80 characters. The
balance of the ini entry is placed on the next line. Each ini entry could be
very long and possibly go to 3 lines.
Why they did this I don't know, really.

But what I need to do is remove the + and CRLF so that each ini entry is
complete in itself, on one line.

ini file currently contains:
dfgsdfg sdfgsd fgsdfgsdf gsdfg +
sdfgadfs dgdghs dfdfgg fghf+
dfgh dfgh

Result I'd like after running the script:
dfgsdfg sdfgsd fgsdfgsdf gsdfg sdfgadfs dgdghs dfdfgg fghf dfgh dfgh

I've used this script, and variations of it, to remove these characters: +
CRLF.
It removes the + char, but still leaves each ini entry split into multiple
lines.

I've also searched the archives for a solution, nothing is working.

Any ideas?


My script:

on mouseUp
  --clear current fields on card
  --these fields are so that I can see the results from the script.
  put empty into fld Orig
  put empty into fld Changed

  --fetch the file
  put C:/temp/some.ini into tFilename
  put URL (file:  tFilename) into tData
  put tData into fld Orig
  
  repeat for each line L in tData
--grab the line
put L into tLine

--If the line contains +, then it will also contain CR and LF,
--so only work on a line with +.
if (tLine contains +) then
  --find + and delete it
  put offSet(+,tLine) into tPos
  delete char tPos to tPos in tLine
  
  --find CR and delete it
  put offSet(CR,tLine) into tPos
  delete char tPos to tPos in tLine
  
  --find LF and delete it
  put offSet(LF,tLine) into tPos
  delete char tPos to tPos in tLine
  
  --put the line into a container so that I can see the results
  put tLine  cr after theLines
else  -- just put the line into a container
  put tLine  cr after theLines
end if
  end repeat
  
  put theLines into fld Changed
end mouseUp


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Re: Removing CRLF from text

2008-08-06 Thread mfstuart


Hi Sarah,
Thanx for your reply.
I have tried your suggestion and it still doesn't make the separated lines
into one entry per line.
I also tried Jacqueline's suggestion and nada, zilch, nichte. 
I've looked at the ini (text) file with a Hex Editor and the values are:
+=2b, CR=0d, LF=0a.
Not sure how to replace using the hex value as the value to replace.

I've even tried using:
 replace +   numtoChar(10)  numtoChar(13) with  in tData
This all will not put all separated lines into one line.

So I'll keep trying different combinations, unless someone has this licked.

Regards,
Mark Stuart



Sarah Reichelt-2 wrote:
 
 I have a situation where a software application's ini file has the plus
 (+)
 char and CRLF at the end of a line, when the line passes 80 characters.
 The
 balance of the ini entry is placed on the next line. Each ini entry could
 be
 very long and possibly go to 3 lines.
 Why they did this I don't know, really.

 But what I need to do is remove the + and CRLF so that each ini entry is
 complete in itself, on one line.

 ini file currently contains:
 dfgsdfg sdfgsd fgsdfgsdf gsdfg +
 sdfgadfs dgdghs dfdfgg fghf+
 dfgh dfgh

 Result I'd like after running the script:
 dfgsdfg sdfgsd fgsdfgsdf gsdfg sdfgadfs dgdghs dfdfgg fghf dfgh dfgh

 
 what about:
 
replace +  CRLF with empty in tData
 
 Cheers,
 Sarah
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Re: Removing CRLF from text

2008-08-06 Thread mfstuart


Hi Jacqueline,
Refer to my replay to Sarah - no go.

So any other suggestions are welcome.

Regards,
Mark Stuart



J. Landman Gay wrote:
 
 mfstuart wrote:
 
 I've used this script, and variations of it, to remove these characters:
 +
 CRLF.
 It removes the + char, but still leaves each ini entry split into
 multiple
 lines.
 
 snip
 
   repeat for each line L in tData
 
 When a script gets a line of text, the engine omits the end of line 
 character(s) and returns only the text of the line itself. That is why 
 the lines stay separated, since the line delimiters are left intact. (It 
 works just like items; when you get an item from a string, the comma is 
 not included.) Instead of working on each line, work on the entire block 
 of text as a whole. You should be able to do it like this:
 
 put URL (file:  tFilename) into tData
 put +CRLF into tChars
 replace tChars with space in tData
 
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Re: Video Editor

2008-08-04 Thread mfstuart


Sorry folks, that message was to have gone directly to Chipp.
Must have used the wrong email address.
@@


Regards,
Mark Stuart



mfstuart wrote:
 
 Hi Chipp,
 
  
 
 I'm a member of the use-revolution archive community and had a question
 for you.
 
  
 
 I was wondering if your video editor was for sale?
 
 I was wanting something for my 15 yr old daughter to use to download video
 from the camera and then edit and create a DVD.
 
  
 
 What say you?
 
  
 
 Thanx, Mark Stuart
 
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Retrieving text within 2 tags

2008-08-01 Thread mfstuart


Hi all,

RunRev: 2.90
OS: WinXP

How would I retrieve text that is within 2 tags, that has been put into a
memory variable?
The text originated from a web site, using command put url theURL into
tData.
Such as:

MyText
This is some text I would like to
retrieve. It is on many lines
and all the text has to be return
within the tags.

Also, the text could have HTML formatting in it.
/MyText

I don't know how to use the XML commands in rev as yet (a possibility), so I
would like to use the text chunk commands to do so.

TIA.
Mark Stuart
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Re: AW: Choose brushTool only works in IDE!?

2008-07-28 Thread mfstuart


Tiemo,
I can't find that in the User Guide, Dictionary, or Glossary. Actually, I
can't find that rev file at all in the installation subfolders.
Can you point me in the correct direction?

Thanx,
Mark Stuart



Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
 
 Ok, having tought myself again the basics - read the docs carefully,
 before
 asking unnecessary questions:
  If you want to change the brush property in a standalone
 application--for
 example, to let the user paint in images--you must copy the stack
 revCompatibilityBrushes1 into your application before you build the
 standalone. (This stack includes the cursors used for the brush tool.) To
 copy the stack, enter the following into the message box or a handler:...
 
 Thanks for listening :)
 Tiemo
 
 
 
 This works perfect in my IDE, but in the standalone the cursor doesn't
 change to the brush tool, it keeps being the pointer tool, though the
 mouseenter is being triggered. Please don't tell me that you can't change
 the tool by script in the standalone! It is supposed to be such a great
 feature in my app!
 
 Thanks for any hints, where I should look at
 
 Tiemo
 
 
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Re: AW: AW: Choose brushTool only works in IDE!?

2008-07-28 Thread mfstuart


Thanx Tiemo, found it.
Mark Stuart



Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
 
 Hi Mark,
 have a look into brush property in the dictionary browser
 Tiemo
 
 
 Tiemo,
 I can't find that in the User Guide, Dictionary, or Glossary. Actually, I
 can't find that rev file at all in the installation subfolders.
 Can you point me in the correct direction?
 
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brushColor transparency setting possible?

2008-07-28 Thread mfstuart


Hi all,
While we're on this topic of brush Tools, anyone know how to set the
transparency of the brushColor on WinXP and RunRev 2.9?
On the stack is an image that the user has captured using the import
snapshot command.
From a Toolbox the user can select an option to hilite a part of the
imported image, like using the yellow Sharpie highlighter.
I set the brush tool, set the brush shape to the vertical shape, then set
the brushColor to yellow.
I need the yellow to be transparent, and don't know how to do that.

TIA,
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force quit of open RunRev app from another software

2008-07-08 Thread mfstuart


Hi all Revolutionaries,

WINXP
RunRev: 2.9

I have a RunRev app that I have built. It is an executable.
This app is called/opened from another software application, written in a
different software development tool. No problem with this.

I may have more than one instance of the RunRev application open at one
time.
And need to close these sessions when the application that opened them,
closes.

How do I force quit these open RunRev application sessions from the other
software?

TIA,
Mark Stuart
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Re: force quit of open RunRev app from another software

2008-07-08 Thread mfstuart

Matthias brilliant :)

I can use/call this from my other software development tool.
- Didn't know you could do that! -

There are a lot of ways to kill a session. The following is the one I used:
'taskkill /IM appname.exe'
Closes all sessions that are open with appname.exe
And appropriate for what I need.

Another way:
'taskkill /PID 5548'
If you know the exact Process ID of the session you want to kill/close.

Thanx,
Mark Stuart

runrev260805 wrote:

Hi Mark,

i would look at the open processes of Windows. There you should see your
revapps.

If you are not familiar to shutdown/kill processes with your other
software dev tool. Then you could invoke a shell command from your other
app.

under XP Pro you could use
tasklist.exe to list all the open processess
taskkill.exe to kill the unwanted tasks or
tskill.exe to kill the unwanted tasks (less powerfull)

under XP home
tskill.exe

See the commandline help of these programs for the exact syntax.

I don´t know if XP home has also tasklist.exe.

Maybe this helps a little bit.

Regards,

Matthias

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Hi all Revolutionaries,

WINXP
RunRev: 2.9

I have a RunRev app that I have built. It is an executable.
This app is called/opened from another software application, written in a
different software development tool. No problem with this.

I may have more than one instance of the RunRev application open at one
time.
And need to close these sessions when the application that opened them,
closes.

How do I force quit these open RunRev application sessions from the other
software?

TIA,
Mark Stuart
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Re: open new sub-stack with different record from database

2008-06-07 Thread mfstuart


Hi Jan,
Thanx Jan. I'll play around with that this weekend.

BTW:
1) I guess RunRev doesn't natively support MDI?
2) And in YOUR script after the 'set the name of it...', I should insert: go
to stack EditAccount?

Thanx,
Mark Stuart



Jan Schenkel wrote:
 
 --- mfstuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 WINXP
 Rev 2.9
 MSSQL
 
 How do I build an MDI interface where from a list of
 records the user can
 open multiple instances of a sub-stack with a
 different record on each
 sub-stack?
 
 Current setup:
 Main Stack - table list of records from a SQL
 database.
 Sub-stack - reads and displays the selected record.
 
 [snip]
 
 Problem:
 If the user double clicks again on a different
 record on the table list, the
 currently opened sub-stack becomes focused with the
 first opened record
 displayed, not the second selected record.
 I can't open more than one sub-stack at a time?
 
 TIA,
 Mark Stuart
 
 
 Hi Mark,
 
 You should look at the 'clone' command - keep a
 pristine template stack around, and clone that stack
 every time the user double-clicks the field - though
 you should probably move it into a utility handler so
 you don't have to copy the logic when you want to edit
 customer records from elsewhere in your application.
 
 Also consider setting the 'destroyStack' property of
 the cloned stack - that way, when the stack is closed
 by script or by clicking the close button, the memory
 it takes up will be freed. And you may also want to
 set the label and name of the cloned stack at the same
 time.
 
 So you would end up with something like this:
 ##
 global gAccountNumber
 
 on mouseDoubleUp
   set the itemDel to tab
   put item 1 of the selectedText into gAccountNumber
   if gAccountNumber   then
 clone stack EditAccountTemplate
 set the destroyStack of it to true
 set the label of it to Edit Account 
 gAccountNumber
 set the name of it to EditAccount 
 gAccountNumber
   end if
 end mouseDoubleUp
 ##
 
 Hope this helped,
 
 Jan Schenkel.
 
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open new sub-stack with different record from database

2008-06-06 Thread mfstuart


Hi all,

WINXP
Rev 2.9
MSSQL

How do I build an MDI interface where from a list of records the user can
open multiple instances of a sub-stack with a different record on each
sub-stack?

Current setup:
Main Stack - table list of records from a SQL database.
Sub-stack - reads and displays the selected record.
The table list has a mouseDoubleUp handler: 
==
global gAccountNumber

on mouseDoubleUp
  set the itemDel to tab
  put item 1 of the selectedText into gAccountNumber
  if gAccountNumber   then
go stack Edit Account
  end if
end mouseDoubleUp
==
This handler opens the sub-stack. The sub-stack preOpenStack reads the
record and populates the fields for display.

Problem:
If the user double clicks again on a different record on the table list, the
currently opened sub-stack becomes focused with the first opened record
displayed, not the second selected record.
I can't open more than one sub-stack at a time?

TIA,
Mark Stuart


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Re: Screen Capture other software using RunRev application

2008-05-31 Thread mfstuart

Joe, I have the latest version of this software at home, and it works great.

Here's the scenario that led me to develop a screen capture application in
RunRev:

My job as a software developer, relies on me to communicate the developing
application to others in the office, and sometimes requires me to send a
screen shot via email or paste it into a Word doc for specifications. Hence
I need a screen capture software.

And since IT gave me a new computer recently, without the screen capture
software on it (as did me old computer - SnagIt), I had been relying on
Paint for a short time. That got old and so I took my hand to RunRev,
remembering it could do a lot of things with images.

In a day, I now have a tool to capture screen shots, calling it GrabIt!
(hmmm).
It's developing along with more features to edit the captured image, such as
SnagIt allows.

When it's a little more mature, I'll place it on RevOnline.

Regards,
Mark Stuart

Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

Mark,

How about using this:
http://www.techsmith.com/screen-capture.asp?CMP=KgoogleShome

Joe Wilkins

On May 29, 2008, at 4:06 PM, mfstuart wrote:

Hi Mark.
That's unfortunate. But all I'm looking for is to grab screen shots
of the
software I build and then be able to paste the capture to any other
software, such as an email or Word.
I think Snapper would be an overkill?

Regards,
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Screen Capture other software using RunRev application


Hi all,

Platform: WINXP
RunRev: 2.9

I was wondering if it is possible to build a screen capture application in
RunRev that works like SnagIt!?
And if so, how would I go about it?
I've played around with this in RunRev, but not fully versed with all the
image commands.

It would work something like this:
Where I can define that the screen capture instance will detect another
software's window or an object such as a button - in that other software,
and then grab the image and bring it back to the RunRev application.
There would be a button to copy the captured image to the clipboard, so that
I can paste it into Word, for example.

SnagIt! website:
http://www.techsmith.com/screen-capture.asp

TIA,
Mark Stuart

p.s. Missed the conference, so just placed my order for the RunRev08 DVD.

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Re: Screen Capture other software using RunRev application


Hi Mark, does Snapper work on the Windows XP platform?
Mark Stuart.


Mark Schonewille-3 wrote:
 
 Hi Mark,
 
 Have a look at Snapper:
 http://snapper.economy-x-talk.com
 
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 On 30 mei 2008, at 00:22, mfstuart wrote:
 

 Hi all,

 Platform: WINXP
 RunRev: 2.9

 I was wondering if it is possible to build a screen capture  
 application in
 RunRev that works like SnagIt!?
 And if so, how would I go about it?
 I've played around with this in RunRev, but not fully versed with  
 all the
 image commands.

 It would work something like this:
 Where I can define that the screen capture instance will detect  
 another
 software's window or an object such as a button - in that other  
 software,
 and then grab the image and bring it back to the RunRev application.
 There would be a button to copy the captured image to the clipboard,  
 so that
 I can paste it into Word, for example.

 SnagIt! website:
 http://www.techsmith.com/screen-capture.asp

 TIA,
 Mark Stuart

 p.s. Missed the conference, so just placed my order for the RunRev08  
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Re: Screen Capture other software using RunRev application


Hi Mark.
That's unfortunate. But all I'm looking for is to grab screen shots of the
software I build and then be able to paste the capture to any other
software, such as an email or Word.
I think Snapper would be an overkill?

Regards,
Mark Stuart



Mark Schonewille-3 wrote:
 
 Hi Mark,
 
 It doesn't work on Windows yet, but it should be possible. The  
 EnhancedQT external crashed when I tried it and I haven't had time to  
 figure out the reason for the crash yet.
 
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 Hi Mark, does Snapper work on the Windows XP platform?
 Mark Stuart.
 
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Re: Screen Capture other software using RunRev application


Terry, I can work with that.
Actually, I modified your Capture button script to:

on mouseUp
  hide this stack
  import snapshot

  --position the image so that it doesn't overlap the Capture button at the
top left of the form
  set the left of image 1 to 2
  set the top of image 1 to 32
  --cut image 1
  set the clipboardData[image] to image 1
  show this stack
end mouseUp




Terry Judd wrote:
 
 How about this button script...
 
 ON mouseUp
   hide this stack
   import snapshot
   cut image 1
   show this stack
 END mouseUp
 
 Terry...
 
 
 On 30/5/08 9:06 AM, mfstuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Hi Mark.
 That's unfortunate. But all I'm looking for is to grab screen shots of
 the
 software I build and then be able to paste the capture to any other
 software, such as an email or Word.
 I think Snapper would be an overkill?
 
 Regards,
 Mark Stuart
 
 
 
 Mark Schonewille-3 wrote:
 
 Hi Mark,
 
 It doesn't work on Windows yet, but it should be possible. The
 EnhancedQT external crashed when I tried it and I haven't had time to
 figure out the reason for the crash yet.
 
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 Hi Mark, does Snapper work on the Windows XP platform?
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Re: Screen Capture other software using RunRev application

Mark, how about revScript, or runRevScript?
After all, it is scripting we do in RunRev. :)
Mark Stuart

Mark Schonewille-3 wrote:

Hi Mark,

Yes, if you really only want a single screenshot, rather than a
complete movie, you don't need Snapper --although a movie is often
much more informative ;-)

To make screenshots on Windows, I use a simple freeware utility called
MWSnap. There are quite a few of these utilities out there. It would
be cool if we could make screenshots of a particular non-Rev window
without having to select the exact area manually. I don't think this
is currently possible with vanilla Transcript, ehm Revolution... or
RevCode.

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Regards,
Mark Stuart

Mark Schonewille-3 wrote:

Hi Mark,

It doesn't work on Windows yet, but it should be possible. The
EnhancedQT external crashed when I tried it and I haven't had time to
figure out the reason for the crash yet.

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Re: Screen Capture other software using RunRev application

With all your help, I created a very simple screen capture application.
I just put it up on RevOnline.

User Name: mfstuart
Category: Utilities
Program Name: Grab It!

Buttons: Capture, Clipboard, Clear

Thanx to Terry and Mark for the suggestions.

Terry Judd wrote:

How about this button script...

ON mouseUp
hide this stack
import snapshot
cut image 1
show this stack
END mouseUp

Terry...

On 30/5/08 9:06 AM, mfstuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Mark.
That's unfortunate. But all I'm looking for is to grab screen shots of
the
software I build and then be able to paste the capture to any other
software, such as an email or Word.
I think Snapper would be an overkill?

Regards,
Mark Stuart

Mark Schonewille-3 wrote:

Hi Mark,

It doesn't work on Windows yet, but it should be possible. The
EnhancedQT external crashed when I tried it and I haven't had time to
figure out the reason for the crash yet.

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Hi Mark, does Snapper work on the Windows XP platform?
Mark Stuart.

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Using revDatabaseColumnNamed returns weird character when database field has NULL

2008-04-02 Thread mfstuart


Sorry for the long description, but had to make it concise for everyone.

Testing my application that accesses MSSQL thru ODBC (in 2.8.1) on WINXP, I
manually typed in some records into the table using Enterprise Manager. I
left some fields without any values, and therefore MSSQL displays NULL,
for no value. OK so far.

When using the subjects rev command, I see that for the fields without any
value (NULL), it puts some character (a square) into the field on the
stack.

So my question is, how do I look for nulls in a SQL table field and NOT put
it into the field on the stack?

TIA,
Mark Stuart
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Re: [OT] Eee PC - got one?

2008-03-26 Thread mfstuart


Richard,
Check out Wikipedia's web site for a lot of info on this device and other
similar models:
A newer model coming in April 2008.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASUS_Eee_PC

Mark Stuart




Richard Gaskin wrote:
 
 I'm considering an Eee PC. Priced at $399, it's hard to imagine it won't 
 be a big seller.  With Rev 2.9 making Linux deployment that much better, 
 I see opportunities ahead.
 
 Anyone here have an Eee PC?  What do you like about it?  What do you hate?
 
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Re: How to indicate window needs saving

2008-03-20 Thread mfstuart


Did a google search with windows hig. Didn't find anything relevant.

But what I do in an edit-record type form, (built in another language for
Windows) is place the following 3 buttons at the bottom right of the form:
Save and Close, Save and New, Close
The first 2 buttons are disabled at opening of the form.

When the user starts editing values on the form (changing field values), I
then set a variable to TRUE.
If this variable is TRUE, then the first 2 buttons become enabled. The text
on the Close button is changed to Cancel.
First up, this is a visual sign to the user that they need to respond to the
system, because they changed values. (a somewhat push/pull affect)
If they press Escape of click Cancel on the edit form, they are prompted in
a dialog box to: save the changes by clicking Yes, exit without saving
changes by clicking No, or they can click Cancel on the dialog box which
returns them to the edit-record form. This last option allows the user to
continue editing the record detail. Choosing No, loses all changes and
closes the form.

Regards,
Mark stuart



Richard Gaskin wrote:
 
 Mark Wieder wrote:
 
 The Mac allows visual feedback to the user that a window needs to be 
 saved by changing the red (left most) icon with a dark dot in it. I 
 don't 
 know if Windows or Linux do the same thing.

 How do I give this indication to the user? Is there a property in Rev 
 to 
 do this?
 
 I've been known to change a field border color to red as an indicator...
 
 In the olden days some Mac apps used an asterisk after the window's 
 title to indicate unsaved changes.  I've been doing the same here, and 
 have had no complaints (though I sure wouldn't mind a fully HIG-savvy 
 way to do this).
 
 BTW: What does the Win HIG recommend for indicating unsaved changes?
 
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Re: Proportional table column spacing upon resizeStack - how to

2008-03-18 Thread mfstuart


Merci Eric, that worked.
Now I'll play around with that script to resize the columns, but the first
column.
Then change it so that the right most columns' right border always is at the
right most position of the field.

Regards,
Mark Stuart



Eric Chatonet wrote:
 
 Hi Mark,
 
 As the engine sends four params (see below) with the resizestack  
 message, it's quite easy to use them to achieve the goal:
 
 on resizestack pNewWidth,pNewHeight,pOldWidth,pOldHeight
local tRect,tTabStops,tTabStop,tNewTabStops
-
put the rect of fld Table into tRect
put pNewWidth - 4 into item 3 of tRect
-- -4: you'll use an appropriate value depending on your context
set the rect of fld Table to tRect -- resizes the field
--
put the tabStops of fld Table into tTabStops
repeat for each item tTabStop in tTabStops
  put round(tTabStop * (pNewWidth / pOldWidth))  comma after  
 tNewTabStops
  -- a value in pixels (integers) according to the ratio between  
 pNewWidth and pOldWidth
end repeat
delete last char of tNewTabStops -- comma
set the tabStops of fld Table to tNewTabStops
 end resizestack
 
 See tabStops in the docs :-)
 
 Best regards from Paris,
 Eric Chatonet.
 
 Le 17 mars 08 à 17:35, mfstuart a écrit :
 
 Hi All,

 I'm trying to apply this to my project, where I'm using a table  
 field object
 to display data with several columns.

 What I'd like to do:
 Upon the user resizing the stack (the width in this case), I would  
 like to
 resize the table columns proportionally. The table object is currently
 resized in the stacks on resizeStack script.
 So this would involve adjusting each item in the tabStops of the table
 field, during the resizeStack script.

 How do I do this?

 TIA,
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Proportional table column spacing upon resizeStack - how to

2008-03-17 Thread mfstuart


Hi All,

I'm trying to apply this to my project, where I'm using a table field object
to display data with several columns.

What I'd like to do:
Upon the user resizing the stack (the width in this case), I would like to
resize the table columns proportionally. The table object is currently
resized in the stacks on resizeStack script.
So this would involve adjusting each item in the tabStops of the table
field, during the resizeStack script.

How do I do this?

TIA,
Mark Stuart
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Re: question regarding print out of objects listing from the application browser

2008-03-12 Thread mfstuart


Hi Jacqueline and Sadhunathan,

Testing Jacqueline's script on WinXP, I found the from rect (the rect of
this cd) value is from the top right of the monitor, (for the size of the
card) not from the top right of the stack or card.
So in the image you end up with the screen back ground, the RunRev menu bar,
and some of the stack as the screen shot, in my case.

I looked up the Documentation for export snapshot and found that you need to
use the windowID property of the stack in the export snapshot line to get
images of the stack or card, in this case.
But first place the windowID into a variable:

  put the windowID of this stack into vWinID
  repeat with x = 1 to the number of cds
go cd x
put c:/temp/snapshot  x  .png into tfilename
export snapshot from rect (the rect of cd x) of window vWinID to file
tfilename as PNG
  end repeat

HTH,
Mark Stuart



J. Landman Gay wrote:
 
 Sadhunathan Nadesan wrote:
 
 I could take screen shots with Irfanview,
 write up a word doc in Open Office, and export to PDF.  
 
 You could automate the screenshot part in Revolution so you don't need 
 to do it manually. Rev offers lots of ways to get screenshots out of 
 your stack, and you can control what is exported -- either the entire 
 card, or just a portion of it.
 
 You'd want to run a repeat loop that goes to each card sequentially and 
 issues the export snapshot command. For example, to get the whole 
 card, use:
 
 repeat with x = 1 to the number of cds
   go cd x
   put snapshot  x  .jpg into tfilename
   export snapshot from rect (the rect of this cd) to file tfilename as
 JPEG
 end repeat
 
 You can, of course, change the export file format to any that Rev 
 supports. This should give you a series of screen shots in just a few 
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Re: Correction to: my cursor shows as black

2008-03-11 Thread mfstuart


Hi Martin,
2.8.1 Build 472.

If you make one cell white outside the black area, and make the other cells
outside the black area, you will have a working cursor to use in RunRev.
Mark Stuart



Martin BLACKMAN wrote:
 
 I seem to recall this issue was a bug with 2.6.1 and is fixed in 2.8.1 (I
 had to make a cursor as a 'negative' to get around it at the time). What
 version of Rev are you using?
 
 On 08/03/2008, mfstuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi all,
 In this post:
 http://www.nabble.com/my-cursor-shows-as-all-black-to15860638.html
 I made the following statement:
 **IMPORTANT - make one pixel outside the cursor area to be white or
 black.

 That is incorrect.

 It should read...
 **IMPORTANT - make one pixel outside the cursor area (the black
 outline)
 to be white.

 This forces RunRev to set the colors in the Colors property to be:
   First Color = white
   Second Color = black
   Third Color = white

 Which is the correct way to display a cursor with transparency in RunRev.

 And as Jacqueline kindly pointed out:
 Only one more thing: if you are planning to go cross platform with this
 app, your cursor can't be 32 pixels square. Linux and Mac support only
 16 pixel square cursors.

 Caveat: Windows does support either 16x16 or 32x32

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Correction to: my cursor shows as black

2008-03-07 Thread mfstuart


Hi all,
In this post:
http://www.nabble.com/my-cursor-shows-as-all-black-to15860638.html
I made the following statement:
**IMPORTANT - make one pixel outside the cursor area to be white or black.

That is incorrect. 

It should read...
**IMPORTANT - make one pixel outside the cursor area (the black outline)
to be white.

This forces RunRev to set the colors in the Colors property to be:
 First Color = white
 Second Color = black
 Third Color = white

Which is the correct way to display a cursor with transparency in RunRev.

And as Jacqueline kindly pointed out:
Only one more thing: if you are planning to go cross platform with this
app, your cursor can't be 32 pixels square. Linux and Mac support only
16 pixel square cursors.

Caveat: Windows does support either 16x16 or 32x32

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Re: my cursor shows as all black

2008-03-06 Thread mfstuart


Hi Jacqueline,
I just attained a level of satisfaction using my own image cursors in
RunRev.

Here's what I've done:
1) Since I don't have PhotoShop, I use Axialis' IconWorkshop to create the
32x32 image and save it as a GIF file, two colors: black and white only, no
transparency.
2) In RunRev, I import the GIF file.
3) Next I click on the image and use the Magnify option to apply
transparency: here's how to do that...
In the magnified thumbnail, use the eraser to remove the color (white)
around or outside the image that will appear as the cursor. Make sure
you set the eraser size to the smallest size. For those areas that you can't
remove with the eraser, use the right button (on windows) and click on those
areas. Doing all this applies a transparency to the image, except the part
that will appear as the cursor.
**IMPORTANT - make one pixel outside the cursor area to be white or black.
If you don't do this, and when using the cursor in your application, the
colors will be reversed.
ie: where you defined white it will be black, and where you defined black it
will be white.

4) Close the magnified box and then choose a non-paint tool to stop editing.

Check the Color properties for the image: this is the way they should be
 First Color = white
 Second Color = black
 Third Color = white

hope that can help someone,
Mark Stuart




J. Landman Gay wrote:
 
 mfstuart wrote:
 Hi again Jacqueline,
 I looked at the browse.gif image on the revCursors stack in RunRev.
 It shows on the Colors  Patterns properties that the First Color is
 black,
 Second Color is white.
 I tried applying the same colors on my gif image after importing it into
 RunRev, but didn't help.
 
 In IconWorkshop, before exporting an image to gif, there are 3-4 options
 to
 set.
 I'll continue playing with those settings, because I just bought this
 software online.
 Got to be able to pay for it some how.
 Is GC available for WinXP?
 
 Sorry, no. It's Mac OS X only. I'm not familiar enough with Windows 
 tools to know of a replacement (I do all my Windows icons and cursors on 
 a Mac) but maybe someone here does. There has got to be something 
 equivalent, I'd think.
 
 There is one more old trick that people used to use, but I haven't 
 mentioned it because several people have said it no longer works. But I 
 guess it is worth a try. Import your image (at the correct size) as a 
 GIF image. Using the pencil tool, edit a pixel or two. The editing is 
 what matters; you don't have to keep the changes. For example, you can 
 toggle one pixel from black to white, and then toggle it back to black 
 again. Then choose a non-paint tool to stop editing.
 
 This used to force the image to the correct palette for use as a cursor, 
 provided your image was black and white to begin with. You might want to 
 see if that works.
 
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my cursor shows as all black

2008-03-05 Thread mfstuart


Hi all,
My cursor shows as all black when using it in a stack. I can't get it to
show as the original image - black and white.

I know there's a set of cursors out there, but I'd like to create my own for
the WinXP OS.

This is what I've done:
First I looked at the RunRev revCursors stack to see how the image was
created - a 32x32 gif format.
So I created my cursor 32x32 pixels with just black and white and with
transparency and saved it as a gif file.
I imported the image and used the img id in the set cursor to 1008 in the
script.
The script works by setting the cursor, but the image is all black, and not
white and black like I created it.

What am I doing wrong?

Thanx,
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Re: my cursor shows as all black

2008-03-05 Thread mfstuart


Hi Mark,
I don't have PhotoShop (as Steve mentions to use), I have Axialis'
IconWorkshop.
I downloaded there Cursor Workshop 4.5, but the only Save As file type is
*.cur.
So I'm trying all different ways to save the image file in IconWorkshop, but
still the black image result.
When I save as .png, and use it in RunRev, it crashes.

Anyone using Axialis' IconWorkshop and able to get the correct results for
cursors?

Thanx,
Mark Stuart



Mark Schonewille-3 wrote:
 
 Hi Mark,
 
 Steve Goldberg created a set of cursors and made a standalone  
 application containing a recipe to make cursors. You can find it on  
 the Economy-x-Talk homepage. Click on Developers in the sidebar on the  
 left and scroll down to halfway the page. I hope it helps.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Mark Schonewille
 
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 On 5 mrt 2008, at 22:22, mfstuart wrote:
 

 Hi all,
 My cursor shows as all black when using it in a stack. I can't get  
 it to
 show as the original image - black and white.

 I know there's a set of cursors out there, but I'd like to create my  
 own for
 the WinXP OS.

 This is what I've done:
 First I looked at the RunRev revCursors stack to see how the image was
 created - a 32x32 gif format.
 So I created my cursor 32x32 pixels with just black and white and with
 transparency and saved it as a gif file.
 I imported the image and used the img id in the set cursor to 1008  
 in the
 script.
 The script works by setting the cursor, but the image is all black,  
 and not
 white and black like I created it.

 What am I doing wrong?

 Thanx,
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Re: my cursor shows as all black

2008-03-05 Thread mfstuart


Hi again Jacqueline,
I looked at the browse.gif image on the revCursors stack in RunRev.
It shows on the Colors  Patterns properties that the First Color is black,
Second Color is white.
I tried applying the same colors on my gif image after importing it into
RunRev, but didn't help.

In IconWorkshop, before exporting an image to gif, there are 3-4 options to
set.
I'll continue playing with those settings, because I just bought this
software online.
Got to be able to pay for it some how.
Is GC available for WinXP?
Mark Stuart




J. Landman Gay wrote:
 
 mfstuart wrote:
 Hi Mark,
 I don't have PhotoShop (as Steve mentions to use), I have Axialis'
 IconWorkshop.
 I downloaded there Cursor Workshop 4.5, but the only Save As file type is
 *.cur.
 So I'm trying all different ways to save the image file in IconWorkshop,
 but
 still the black image result.
 When I save as .png, and use it in RunRev, it crashes.
 
 Anyone using Axialis' IconWorkshop and able to get the correct results
 for
 cursors?
 
 I don't think you can use that software. You need an image editor that 
 will allow you to assign the correct number of colors, and set the order 
 of the color lookup table. Your image must have only three colors in it, 
 and the order in which they appear in the color lookup table is 
 important. The three colors must be black, white, and any other color, 
 the third of which you assign as the transparent color.
 
 I had to make a number of cursors for Cosmic Osmo and I used Graphic 
 Converter (Mac OS X) to do it. GC allows you to assign the order of the 
 colors in the color palette. Unfortunately I can't offhand recall which 
 color has to be first, second, and third, but I vaguely recall the 
 transparent color has to be third. Whether the first is black or white 
 is what I've since forgotten, so you'd need to experiment.
 
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Contents of Scrolling Field disappear after going to a card

2008-03-04 Thread mfstuart


Hi all,
I'm creating a navigation system using a Scrolling Field as a menu - like
iTunes.
eg: Contents of the field: (tab delimited values: item 1=menu description,
item 2=menu id)
Main - 1
Card 1 - 2
Card 2 - 3
Card 3 - 4 

I grouped the field and set its backgroundBehavior to true.
Then I created 3 cards, as above.

Problem:
When the field is clicked on, it uses its script: go to card, with item 2
value, the menu id.
When it goes to the different cards, the contents of the Scrolling Field
disappear.
But the Scrolling Field itself remains visible, and so I can't navigate
anymore, when on the other cards.
I checked the contents property for the field, and the values are still
there.

What's up with that?
Mark Stuart


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Re: Contents of Scrolling Field disappear after going to a card

2008-03-04 Thread mfstuart

Thank you Jacqueline, that did it.
But I would never of thought to check that property.
Regards,
Mark Stuart

J. Landman Gay wrote:

mfstuart wrote:

Problem:
When the field is clicked on, it uses its script: go to card, with item 2
value, the menu id.
When it goes to the different cards, the contents of the Scrolling Field
disappear.
But the Scrolling Field itself remains visible, and so I can't navigate
anymore, when on the other cards.
I checked the contents property for the field, and the values are still
there.

Turn on the field's sharedtext property. A background field, by default,
allows for different text on every card. The text you see in the
inspector is the text of the first card, but it isn't being shared
across all the cards.

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Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-02-29 Thread mfstuart


Hi Malte,
First, thanx for your reply. I've put other questions or responses below...

Most of the time same office, sometimes spread across regions -
So do the remote developers email the rev files to somebody who then copies
these new or updated rev files to the master location? I assume this is the
merge process.

Bottom line, is RunRev a good tool to use in a production team environment?

I wrote an XML exporter for stacks -
In the tool I currently use (eDeveloper), I can export any object in the
application to a text file: model, table definition, program, help, menu,
anything. In this file, besides all the other stuff, is what they call an
ISN - Internal Serial Number for each object. This is how they track
(internally) the relationship between each object. When I import that object
into another project, or even the same project on the master, it knows what
it belongs to, in the target project.
So if you have this exporter, can you create the importer to get back the
objects to their original state? That would be the key.
And if this cannot work, then Steve's concepts would align to how I'd
approach team development using RunRev.

Thanx,
Mark Stuart
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Re: Team Development using Run Rev

2008-02-29 Thread mfstuart


Hi Ben,
Nice concept, if someone could build that in RunRev, a Team Development
system, quite possible if you know the structure of all the objects. The
SmartProperties plug-in that already exists, shows how the same object in
the original rev file could be compared to the just updated rev file.

==
Ben wrote:
A possible better solution would be to create (in Rev, of course) a tool for
checking into SVN; which if you dragged a stack on to it, would generate not
a
single XML file but a folder with many files and perhaps folders.  For some
setups you might want the tool to check everything into SVN; I think I'd
rather use this tool, then use Eclipse to do the check-in, so that it would
look at all the differences and allow me to deal with them individually. 
That
way you could view the stack as a project, and see each script, card,
substack
etc (er... tbd) as individual files, so that there could be individual
comments and change histories. 

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Team Development using Run Rev

2008-02-28 Thread mfstuart


Hi to all those who have used or are using RunRev in a team development
environment...

I have some questions as to even if RunRev allows itself to be a software
development tool for development teams. So here are my questions:
Who is using RunRev in a group development environment? (reply if you are)
How many developers are on the team?
Are the developers in the same office or are the team members spread over
different regions or countries?
How are you handling master stack updates to the server?
How do you handle code (.rev files) check-out and check-in?

Bottom line, is RunRev a good tool to use in a production team environment?

I ask these questions at this time after spending almost 2 years using and
learning RunRev on my spare time.
It is starting to appear to me that it's a viable tool to use to develop
off the shelf software products.
But with that in mind it's important to understand the questions above, as
one day this may be the tool of choice.
Thanx in advance for your replies,
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Re: Reliable Cursor Changes?

2008-02-25 Thread mfstuart

Hi Scott,

I just tried this in a new stack... seems to work.

I put 3 objects on the stack: Label Field, Field, and a button.
For each object, I created a Custom Property: RollOverCursor and gave the 
values: 1,2, and no value, respectively for each object.

For each object, I put the following script into them:

on mouseEnter
  switch (the RollOverCursor of me)
  case 1
set cursor to 76
break
  case 2
set cursor to hand
break
  default
reset cursors
  end switch
  lock cursor
end mouseEnter

on mouseLeave
  unlock cursor
end mouseLeave

When placing each object on the stack, make sure there is enough space in 
between them for the engine to reset the cursor, else the cursor won't reset 
to the default.

I like this concept, and will put it into my own applications, thanx Scott. :)

If you need me to put this stack on RevOnline, please reply.

HTH,
Mark Stuart
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UI performance and large data set in Table Object


Hi All,

I have a question about large data sets (thousands of lines) in a table
object and the slowing down of the UI performance, especially on resizing
the stack.

My application interfaces to an MS SQL 2000 database via ODBC. No problem
there.
The SQL table I have has over half a million records in it, and this grows
all the time.

Potentially, the user could return all records, which would take a while to
load them all.
But I've created the interface to allow the user to return a smaller record
set. This can be alot of records - 10, 30, 40, 5 thousand or more, or
just a few hundred. It depends on how the user searches the database.

Now when large record sets are returned from a search, the UI (user
interface) slows down, especially when resizing the stack to see more
records in the table object. When resizing with no records, the UI is
performs normally with fast resizing.

Q: has any one seen this before? And if so, how do you handle the drop in UI
performance?

Thanx,
Mark Stuart
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Re: UI performance and large data set in Table Object

I haven't tried storing data in a custom property as yet, but wouldn't that
render the same lack of performance behavior, where putting the data into a
stack of the UI?

Mark Stuart

masmit wrote:

Mark, you might store the data from the database in a custom property
of the table field, and only show as much data as will fit in the
field at it's current size.

You'd have to write your own scrolling routines to update the
display, but it can be done.

Best,

Mark

On 21 Feb 2008, at 19:04, mfstuart wrote:

Hi All,

I have a question about large data sets (thousands of lines) in a
table
object and the slowing down of the UI performance, especially on
resizing
the stack.

My application interfaces to an MS SQL 2000 database via ODBC. No
problem
there.
The SQL table I have has over half a million records in it, and
this grows
all the time.

Potentially, the user could return all records, which would take a
while to
load them all.
But I've created the interface to allow the user to return a
smaller record
set. This can be alot of records - 10, 30, 40, 5 thousand or
more, or
just a few hundred. It depends on how the user searches the database.

Q: has any one seen this before? And if so, how do you handle the
drop in UI
performance?

Thanx,
Mark Stuart
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Re: UI performance and large data set in Table Object

Hi Richard,
My day job is a software engineer, using another software development tool -
eDeveloper.
The product we build (CRM) is for enterprise sized companies, working on
large amounts of SQL data.
eDeveloper does not produce this UI lack of performance during runtime. This
is how I noticed the difference in behavior.
As far as Excel and Rev, both load the data into memory, which I would
assume then declines the available resources, causing the issue at hand.
Whereas the table object in our software is reading the data continually
(??) from the database, caching when needed, so the lack of performance is
never noticed.

Mark Stuart

Richard Gaskin wrote:

Jan Schenkel wrote:

Now when large record sets are returned from a
search, the UI (user
interface) slows down, especially when resizing the
stack to see more
records in the table object. When resizing with no
records, the UI is
performs normally with fast resizing.
...
The problem is two-fold: it's a lot of data that has
to go through some pipe before it arrives in
Revolution, and Revolution then has to process and
format a lot of that to determine what to actually
display on screen, recalculate the size of the
scrollbar, etc.

FWIW, I did some subjective tests with scrolling large amounts of data
in Rev vs. Word, Excel, and others. Rev outperformed them all, quite
noticeably.

So if it seems slow, try the same size data anywhere else. Sometimes a
lot of data just takes a long time to redraw.

Fortunately the user will likely resize a window infrequently.

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Re: UI performance and large data set in Table Object


Hi Jan,
Where the reading of the SQL data and loading into a table object is not
quite the issue here, never the less, it is an issue I haven't dealt with as
yet in this application.
But I will try your approach, copying your script to an archive for future
pondering.

This current issue is the resizing of the stack AFTER the data has loaded to
the table object.
When resizing, it is very slow and cumbersome and even produces delays to
the resized stack dimensions.

Mark Stuart


Jan Schenkel wrote:
 
 --- mfstuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 I have a question about large data sets (thousands
 of lines) in a table
 object and the slowing down of the UI performance,
 especially on resizing
 the stack.
 
 My application interfaces to an MS SQL 2000 database
 via ODBC. No problem
 there.
 The SQL table I have has over half a million records
 in it, and this grows
 all the time.
 
 Potentially, the user could return all records,
 which would take a while to
 load them all.
 But I've created the interface to allow the user to
 return a smaller record
 set. This can be alot of records - 10, 30, 40, 5
 thousand or more, or
 just a few hundred. It depends on how the user
 searches the database.
 
 Now when large record sets are returned from a
 search, the UI (user
 interface) slows down, especially when resizing the
 stack to see more
 records in the table object. When resizing with no
 records, the UI is
 performs normally with fast resizing.
 
 Q: has any one seen this before? And if so, how do
 you handle the drop in UI
 performance?
 
 Thanx,
 Mark Stuart
 
 
 Hi Mark,
 
 The problem is two-fold: it's a lot of data that has
 to go through some pipe before it arrives in
 Revolution, and Revolution then has to process and
 format a lot of that to determine what to actually
 display on screen, recalculate the size of the
 scrollbar, etc.
 
 For a project where it was taking a lot of time before
 the user saw anything, I decided to take a different
 approach: rather than rely on a single call to
 revdb_querylist()/revDataFromQuery(), to use a result
 set cursor and a 'send in time' construct to fetch 20
 records at a time.
 
 This approach allows the user interface to remain
 responsive, and the user can see the table filling up
 as more data comes in. It also means you can cancel
 the rest of the data download as soon as the user
 finds the record he wants, or decides to make a
 different selection.
 
 It looks something like this:
 
 ##
 global gConnectionID
 local sFetchMsgID, sCursorID, sColumnCount
 
 on mouseUp
   CancelFetchTimer
   put SELECT * FROM Customers into tQuery
   put revdb_query(gConnectionID, tQuery) into
 sCursorID
   if sCursorID is not a number then
 answer error sCursorID
 exit mouseUp
   end if
   put revDatabaseColumnCount(sCursorID) into
 sColumnCount
   put empty into field QueryResults
   send FetchNext20Records to me in 0 milliseconds
   put the result into sFetchMsgID
 end mouseUp
 
 on FetchNext20Records
   put false into tStopFlag
   repeat 20 times
 repeat with tColumn = 1 to sColumnCount
   put revDatabaseColumnNumbered(sCursorID,
 tColumn)  \
   tab after tNextPart
 end repeat
 put return into char -1 of tNextPart
 put revCurrentRecordIsLast(sCursorID) into
 tStopFlag
 if tStopFlag then
   delete char -1 of tNextPart
   exit repeat
 end if
   end repeat
   put tNextPart after field QueryResults
   if tStopFlag then
 put empty into sFetchMsgID
   else
 send FetchNext20Records to me in 100
 milliseconds
 put the result into sFetchMsgID
   end if
 end FetchNext20Records
 
 on CancelFetchTimer
   if sFetchMsgID is not empty then
 cancel sFetchMsgID
 put empty into sFetchMsgID
   end if
 end CancelFetchTimer
 ##
 
 This is all off the top of my head, so beware of
 typos.
 
 Hope this helped,
 
 Jan Schenkel.
 
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Re: UI performance and large data set in Table Object

Hi Richard,
I did as you suggested and copied 8 columns of data (20,844 lines) into this
new stack.
Just a table object on the card - no scripts (except your 'on resizeStack'
in the stack), no other objects.
resize result: same slow behavior :(

Any other thoughts on that?

Mark Stuart

Richard Gaskin wrote:

mfstuart wrote:
My day job is a software engineer, using another software development
tool -
eDeveloper.
The product we build (CRM) is for enterprise sized companies, working on
large amounts of SQL data.
eDeveloper does not produce this UI lack of performance during runtime.
This
is how I noticed the difference in behavior.
As far as Excel and Rev, both load the data into memory, which I would
assume then declines the available resources, causing the issue at hand.
Whereas the table object in our software is reading the data continually
(??) from the database, caching when needed, so the lack of performance
is
never noticed.

Rev fields are smartly buffered and tend to redraw faster than any other
app on my hard drive. If you're seeing unusually slow redraws it may be
related to Rev libraries rather than the engine itself.

Try this: Make a new stack, add a field, turn on the field's hGrid and
vGrid properties, and dump an equivalent amount of data into it.

To handle the resize, use this rather than Rev's Geometry Manager:

on resizeStack x,y
set the rect of fld 1 to 20,20,x-20,y-20
end resizeStack

If Rev is as efficient as I think it is, that test should show a pretty
smooth update. If not we can look into it more deeply.

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Re: UI performance and large data set in Table Object


Hi Sarah,
That sounds promising, especially reading prior threads on the same custom
property concept.
(A thought on this concept of copying data to a custom property - wouldn't
it consume large amounts of the users computer memory/resources?)

But this is a multi-user application, where many users will be searching,
updating, deleting, and adding records into the SQL database thru this Rev
app. It's not a read-only application. I think if it was, the custom
property could be worth looking at.
Mark Stuart



Sarah Reichelt-2 wrote:
 
 On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 9:21 AM, mfstuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I haven't tried storing data in a custom property as yet, but wouldn't
 that
  render the same lack of performance behavior, where putting the data
 into a
  stack of the UI?
 
 No, because the engine doesn't have to think about how to display your
 data, it's just storing whatever you put in there.
 
 I got involved in a project were data was being stored in fields on
 another card, so not even visible. The amount of data was getting
 quite large, about 40,000 lines in each field. When I changed it to
 storing the data in custom properties, the speed of adding new data
 points dropped from around 3 seconds to about 5 ticks!
 
 Cheers,
 Sarah
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