Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
I tried 3 versions of Rev: 4, 4.5 dp1 and dp2. It's still broken for me. I'll be committing myself to a mental health facility later this afternoon after I finish talking to my imaginary friends. Then when I'm safely stored away, I will use the app browser instead. Sorry to bother everyone with this. On 15 March 2010 10:53, Neal Campbell nealk...@gmail.com wrote: It works properly under Win7. Maybe something in your plugins folder is interfering? Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software www.abrohamnealsoftware.com (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER Amateur Radio: K3NC Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/ DXBase bug reports: email to ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/ On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:48 AM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: In my last attempt, the names of the two *stacks* are the default ones upon creation. I then attempt to name the first card of the substack. I can click on the substack, and I'll see one card in the inspector nav, select it, rename the card, and then bring the main stack to the front, and use the inspector to see the first card of the mainstack - and it has the name I gave the substack card. On 15 March 2010 10:40, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: stephen barncard wrote: Look everyone, I know I look like a fool here, and now I know that it's possible with the App browser but I know what I am seeing and I think there is a bug here. I had been trying to use the Inspection panel exclusively without using the application browser at all. I was assuming that they would be working the same way. I've never had any problem with this. What are the actual names of your two stacks? The symptoms sound like what happens if two stacks have the same name. I'm sure you aren't doing that, but wondering if your problem is related somehow. BTW, you don't look like a fool; you've just stumbled on some kind of exception that the rest of us haven't encountered yet. Before you report it, we should try to figure out the cause. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard currently in Fairhope AL ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard currently in Fairhope AL ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
The only difference is that you are double-clicking the stacks. that doesn't matter. I dont' know what's going on, I've tried this 5 times in the last 2 days... just now, though by single clicking I can do it. Thanks all for the help of this apparent non-issue. On 15 March 2010 13:20, Mark Talluto use...@canelasoftware.com wrote: Hi Stephen, I gave this a try and captured my screen. If you think it would be help, watch it and see what I got. If I missed a step, just let me know and I will modify my actions to match yours better. http://www.canelasoftware.com/pub/rev/inspector.mov Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard currently in Fairhope AL ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
Thanks Jacque -- yes that does it - thanks for the confirmation of the possibility of a glitch. My lesson is to use the Application Browser or the newly-fixed object browser in tRev for this situation - just tested and works fine (and definitely wasn't right a week ago.) to Mark: yes you were following the recipe. On 15 March 2010 13:35, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: stephen barncard wrote: In my last attempt, the names of the two *stacks* are the default ones upon creation. I then attempt to name the first card of the substack. I can click on the substack, and I'll see one card in the inspector nav, select it, rename the card, and then bring the main stack to the front, and use the inspector to see the first card of the mainstack - and it has the name I gave the substack card. Here is what I did: Create new mainstack Untitled 1 Create new substack of mainstack, Untitled 2 Right-click on mainstack with edit tool. Choose card property inspector. Name card 1 of mainstack. Right-click on substack with edit tool. Choose card property inspector. Name card 1 of substack. That works. I can also do it with the little arrow at the right side of the Inspector, but that's trickier with potential glitches. So if there is a bug, it's in that arrow somewhere, but possibly more in the interface design than in the implementation, because if you do things in exactly the right order the arrow works. But it's not as easy as just clicking on the stack. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard currently in Fairhope AL ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
Thanks. That's it. So clicking on the stack may not always change the reference but clicking the title bar should. I'm not sure this is worth reporting as a bug - what do you think? At least you captured the effect. by the way, Mark, what is that 'special' black toolbar up there ? Custom? sqb On 15 March 2010 14:07, Mark Talluto use...@canelasoftware.com wrote: Ok. I think I got it. You can see in my video that I paused as I realized this is not right! Tell me what you think. The trick was to switch stacks by clicking on their titlebar once to change focus. http://www.canelasoftware.com/pub/rev/inspector.mov Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard currently in Fairhope AL ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
I just tested the same exact situation and it seems work fine in tRev... thanks again for your quick work. By the way, don't I owe you money for a renewal pretty soon??? What should I do? thanks sqb On 15 March 2010 14:00, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com wrote: Stephen, The unique card situation has I BELIEVE been fixed in the latest tRev build. Tricky stuff. JD On Mar 15, 2010, at 12:49 AM, stephen barncard wrote: Thanks for the help guys. It's not about creating new cards. It's what happens when one creates a new substack, and the automatic ID assignment of the first card in the new stack. I had been using the inspector to try to get there. That triangle below the lock that can reveal objects. click on stack2 use the inspector to see the first card. but it's the name that I called the first card in the first stack, I never can reveal card id 1002 of stack2 It's like the that function (the popup under lock) is looking at card IDs and not names for reference. I just tried navigation via the Application Browser, I now can see the names in the application browser and actually do the navigation there. And I have had this problem lately in tRev. But the navigation seems to be broken in the popup in the Inspector with regards to recognizing cards with the same ID. Should this be posted as a bug? - Stephen Barncard currently in Fairhope AL How are you creating new cards? How are you determining that you can't see the newly created cards? Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard currently in Fairhope AL ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Saving files to database
I don't think BLOBs have any problem with quotes - it's just another binary byte. - Stephen Barncard currently in Fairhope AL ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
Hi gang, At first I thought this was a tRev issue, but now I don't think so I've started to work more with substacks, but I'm running into a major snag. Will someone tell me why I can't name, edit or even see the second card? 1. Create a mainstack, name it stack1 2 create a substack of #1 above, name it stack2 3. set the name of card 1 of stack 1 to stack1card 4. try and set the name of card 1 of stack2 to anything. on creation, both stacks have card ID 1002 as the first card, but for the life of me, I can't find a way to use the Inspector to see or change the name of card 1 of stack 2 using the message box: set the name of card 1 of stack stack2 to anything doesn't do anything. The only thing that works is to create a new card on stack2, and delete the first one so the IDs aren't the same. this is a big hassle. what's going on here?? this is happening in 4.0 and the dps macbook pro, 10.5.8 - Stephen Barncard Fairhope AL. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
Scott - before you declared 'everything's working' did you try my recipe?? It's not the creating/ naming a single stack - it's the IDs that are assigned to cards - and the fact that when you create a substack, there is ANOTHER first card with the ID of 1002. The IDE gets confused and refuses to let me work on that second card in the substack. - Stephen Barncard On 15 March 2010 01:09, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: Recently, stephen barncard wrote: At first I thought this was a tRev issue, but now I don't think so I've started to work more with substacks, but I'm running into a major snag. Will someone tell me why I can't name, edit or even see the second card? 1. Create a mainstack, name it stack1 2 create a substack of #1 above, name it stack2 3. set the name of card 1 of stack 1 to stack1card 4. try and set the name of card 1 of stack2 to anything. Stephen, are you referring specifically to tRev? Because just using the Rev IDE, I have no problems creating/naming cards. Using the Inspector palette, message box, and Application Browser all work fine here (v4). Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
and this is NOT using tREV - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 15 March 2010 00:15, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.comwrote: Scott - before you declared 'everything's working' did you try my recipe?? It's not the creating/ naming a single stack - it's the IDs that are assigned to cards - and the fact that when you create a substack, there is ANOTHER first card with the ID of 1002. The IDE gets confused and refuses to let me work on that second card in the substack. - Stephen Barncard On 15 March 2010 01:09, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: Recently, stephen barncard wrote: At first I thought this was a tRev issue, but now I don't think so I've started to work more with substacks, but I'm running into a major snag. Will someone tell me why I can't name, edit or even see the second card? 1. Create a mainstack, name it stack1 2 create a substack of #1 above, name it stack2 3. set the name of card 1 of stack 1 to stack1card 4. try and set the name of card 1 of stack2 to anything. Stephen, are you referring specifically to tRev? Because just using the Rev IDE, I have no problems creating/naming cards. Using the Inspector palette, message box, and Application Browser all work fine here (v4). Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
Thanks for the help guys. It's not about creating new cards. It's what happens when one creates a new substack, and the automatic ID assignment of the first card in the new stack. I had been using the inspector to try to get there. That triangle below the lock that can reveal objects. click on stack2 use the inspector to see the first card. but it's the name that I called the first card in the first stack, I never can reveal card id 1002 of stack2 It's like the that function (the popup under lock) is looking at card IDs and not names for reference. I just tried navigation via the Application Browser, I now can see the names in the application browser and actually do the navigation there. And I have had this problem lately in tRev. But the navigation seems to be broken in the popup in the Inspector with regards to recognizing cards with the same ID. Should this be posted as a bug? - Stephen Barncard currently in Fairhope AL How are you creating new cards? How are you determining that you can't see the newly created cards? Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Color cursors in RunRev 4.5?
Right, and you have a robot named Klaatu. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 10 March 2010 11:31, zryip theSlug zryip.thes...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/3/9 stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com: this is NDA stuff, guys, not for the how-to list. Ooops! In fact I don't know. Maybe there will be cursors or not. And even if, there will be very small, shaped cat and they only work on oil platforms. If you've read my previous post, forget it. Anyway, I'm a slug and I plan to return to my garden in a flying saucer. -- -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Application graphics
beyond icon/image - same goes for audio files - It would be useful to be able to play (at least a short ) sound from a variable (loaded from a CP) rather than deal with temp files. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 10 March 2010 12:34, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: Recently, Malte Pfaff-Brill wrote: I benchmarked setting the text of an image versus using the Icon of a button a while back and it turned out that setting the icon was a multitude faster. Yet another good argument to vote for enhancement #6375: Extend Icon/Image References to Include Binary Data in Custom Properties Having to keep images around in a stack for reference by other controls is messy. Enabling buttons to reference image data stored in a custom property is cleaner and more portable. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Color cursors in RunRev 4.5?
this is NDA stuff, guys, not for the how-to list. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 9 March 2010 11:57, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote: On 09/03/2010 21:25, zryip theSlug wrote: 2010/3/9 William de Smetwilliamdes...@gmail.com: snip coming update 4.5? snip Yum! When? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Windows Portable???
I actually liked the U3 idea, because it let developers safely allow installs on removable media so they could be used anywhere. It's all about DRM. At Revcon II there was a guy from the company that gave a a half hour demonstration. Lynn, you were there. I immediately lost interest when it was announced to be a windows only feature. Judging by the number of Power/Macbooks in the crowd, I wasn't alone. It was an odd moment of Rev promoting a platform-specific feature. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 8 March 2010 09:23, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote: On 08/03/2010 19:02, Bob Sneidar wrote: I believe U3 is a reference to a removable media system where simply by attaching it to the computing device, it would enable software on the U3 device to become dynamically installed in the OS, and when removed the software would be dynamically uninstalled, so to speak. Like any powerful tool, it can also be used for harm rather than good. I am not sure what the safeguards are. I know of a friend who has a USB device that when plugged into a computer silently downloads all the serial numbers and the passwords it can find on a Windows box. Later he can run software on the USB device to crack the Windows passwords (not a hard feat these days as MD5 has been quite crackable for some time). Funny sort of 'friend'. . . In the RunRev Studio 4 standalone settings there is an option for U3 something-or-other. Presumably (?) the good folk at RunRev have put the U3 'thing' there because they felt there was some demand for it: after all they I don't suppose they went to the effort of putting that there just for the fun of it. Also on the downloads page: http://www.runrev.com/downloads/all-downloads/full-list/ there is this: The U3 download allows you to create programs on a U3 flash drive system. In the RunRev User Guide there is this: Compatible Build your application for the U3 smart platform. For more information on U3 see http://www.u3.com. For more documentation on building U3 applications using Revolution, see the Resources/Examples/U3 Documentation.pdf file within your Revolution distribution folder. U3 Documentation.pdf is 'buried': 4.0.0-gm-1/Resources/Examples/U3 Documentation.pdf Reading the document seems to suggest that a U3 USB drive does carry something rather similar to Windows Portable. This seems to say that one can build a Windows system on a USB stick (rather like the USB Linux systems) with 1 or more RunRev standalones rolled up in it so that one can bung the USB stick into any PC USB port, boot from it into one's very own Mini Windows and run one's standalones without having to alter any OS on the PC's hard drive(s). As the whole thing sounds horribly complicated I cannot see myself getting into it right this minute . . . :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Application graphics
Animated pngs have been specified, but don't run in all browsers (yet). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animated_PNG - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 8 March 2010 13:53, Nicolas Cueto nicon...@gmail.com wrote: I advise you to use PNG for everything. It has an alpha channel and it is better than GIF. How about animations? -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Comma-delimited values
We could have a funeral like IE6. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco On 8 March 2010 13:53, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: Richard Gaskin wrote: CSV must die. Oh come on, Richard, tell us what you really think. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.2.1b
This is awesome work, Ralf, and the documentation is some of the best I've ever seen. This system is expandable and appears to be really well thought out. The concept of working almost 99% in RevTalk on a web page is remarkable. May your offering spawn some great sites... - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 6 March 2010 13:30, Ralf Bitter ra...@dimensionb.de wrote: revIgniter v1.2.1 Beta has been released ready for download. This version (1.2.1b) includes bug fixes and a new helper, which provides handlers that assist in working with Form-Mails. Info and download at: http://www.revigniter.com/ Ralf ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?
All of Adobe's apps are tied to the computer processor # AND check into 'headquarters' and were a PIA to re-install on CS3, especially if one had run the demo version before. The main reason for CS4 was to try to fix the-now cracked CS3 mess. The Adobe solution was to recommend upgrading to CS4. Their best support dance for CS3 was to issue scary-looking shell scripts that supposedly fixed things. Shell scripts to users? Yikes. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 4 March 2010 09:37, Tiemo Hollmann TB toolb...@kestner.de wrote: I did not mentioned that we had also some steps in between. But many of the per-user licenses can be passed on. I don't know how Adobe or Microsoft prevent people of passing their user license to other people. Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Richard Gaskin Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. März 2010 18:00 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine? Tiemo Hollmann wrote: In the first years our software was - in your intention - completely free of copy protection, later we implemented a copy protection on some programs, which were running off the CD. We made the experience, that nobody ever thanked us the ease of use and lack of licensing. Just the opposite. Just because our target market is so small and lots of people know each other, our software was copied, given away without control. Completely free of copy protection is very different from the industry-standard per-user license keys I described, and not something I would advocate for any commercial product. In markets where piracy is an unusually serious consideration, server-based activation can provide reasonable control over license key redistribution. If smartly implemented with grace periods, phone home activation should pose no inconvenience to the end-user. But most successful products don't even do that, they merely use pre-generated keys. Per-user license keys have made Adobe, Microsoft, Apple, and most other software vendors quite profitable. Not having any protection at all is, IMO, only appropriate for free products. The early years of the computer industry's shareware experiments proved that convincingly. The difference between free demo and full version need not be onerous to the user, but there must be some incentive to motivate the user to put in the additional effort to fill out an order form. This is one reason why having PayPal as a payment option is so valuable: it reduces the payment process to just a single password field and one click. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN][UPDATE] Revolution.mode - Revolution syntax coloring for CODA and SubEhtaEdit
Whoops! I forgot to add support for the comment syntax I never use. (Thanks to Jerry Daniels) Now supports all 4 Rev comment styles: /* */ -- ## and // New download site: http://houseofcubes.com/down/Rev/ http://houseofcubes.com/down/Rev/ anyone who tests this please let me know of any errors before I re-submit to the SubEhtaEdit site. http://houseofcubes.com/down/Rev/- Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 77, Issue 71
DON'T spend money on Mac Software; once you have the machine and the operating system pretty well everything else should be FREE. Good advice for some ...That's not a realistic or practical goal for those who use their computers for more than word processing and web access.. In many cases the commercial versions are still better, or provide a workflow is more efficient. Also many of the open source software offerings seem to not look or work like real Mac applications. After working with the Sun Virtualizer, I still prefer the hand-holding and stuff 'that just works' in VMWare's paid Virtualizer. And there is yet to be found any open source audio and video editing software that nears the Mac experience of Final Cut or Logic. This is the stuff I use every day. And then there's Cyberduck - open source FTP client - that blows away everything I just said. I just don't think it's good advice to give to anyone - Don't spend any money on software - especially to a group of programmers!! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 77, Issue 71
Audacity does not support real multitrack audio and only uses it's own plugins. As a two channel editor, it's still not as useful as the $80 Sound Studio. Many pro features missing. There is an open source video editor avidemux2, but its interface is not that great. No competition for Final Cut. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 1 March 2010 12:50, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote: On 01/03/2010 22:39, stephen barncard wrote: DON'T spend money on Mac Software; once you have the machine and the operating system pretty well everything else should be FREE. Good advice for some ...That's not a realistic or practical goal for those who use their computers for more than word processing and web access.. In many cases the commercial versions are still better, or provide a workflow is more efficient. Also many of the open source software offerings seem to not look or work like real Mac applications. After working with the Sun Virtualizer, I still prefer the hand-holding and stuff 'that just works' in VMWare's paid Virtualizer. And there is yet to be found any open source audio and video editing software that nears the Mac experience of Final Cut or Logic. This is the stuff I use every day. And then there's Cyberduck - open source FTP client - that blows away everything I just said. I just don't think it's good advice to give to anyone - Don't spend any money on software - especially to a group of programmers!! For Graphics and Sound I think that Open Source is really good (GIMP, Inkscape, Audacity, Ardour(linux)), But there is no respectable Video Editing suite that is Open Source, yet. Ultimately one has to use one's own judegement with regard to these things. I am perfectly happy developing the sort of software I develop with 100% Open Source + RunRev. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN] Revolution.mode - Revolution syntax coloring for CODA
We were talking about his last week. I went ahead and tacked all Revolution keywords into the document. All Functions, Commands, Properties and Control Structures are used. Installation info included. I also include a Revolution.seestyle to set the style to a starting point. REVOLUTION.MODE FOR CODAhttp://fulton.barncard.com/downloads/rev-coda-mode.zip I will be posting it to the SubEthraEdit site but the Rev lists get it first. sqb - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: iTunes Library
This is really a comprehensive library and admirable considering the murky waters of MP3 tagging. I started to adapt the library to work with On-Rev but had problems with my converting the operation of the library from custom properties based to text file based. setprop and getprop in ON-Rev would be welcome here for this purpose. Real custom props of some kind would be even better.. if possible... - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 27 February 2010 20:03, Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.com wrote: You could check out my 'free' iTune Library Suite. It can still be found at the address below. I have not yet moved things over to on-rev. The Library is cross platform and the documentation is actually a lab where you can experiment with each command to see how it works. I have tried to include many examples in code and resources to experiment with. http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html On Feb 27, 2010, at 10:44 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: Has anybody done any manipulation of itunes library files? More importantly, would you like to share? -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: navigating cleanly between main- and sub-stacks
Actually Trevor Devore (in his Application Framework master class) recommends breaking a project into several substacks as a way to manage large projects. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 25 February 2010 05:13, Nicolas Cueto nicon...@gmail.com wrote: Richmond asked a couple of questions: What does cleanly in navigating cleanly mean? I assume (possibly wrongly) that you mean that the end-user is unaware s/he is actually changing from the main stack to a substack. Yes, that unawareness factor is what I'm after. The way it was setup before, the monitor screen would go blank between the time the mainstack closed and the next stack opened. By the way, I wrote substacks originally. That was a mistake on my part. What I am actually working on is mainstack-to-stack, not mainstack-to-substack. If that is so important why do you bother to have a substack at all (memory overheads? multimedia storage?) when you could just navigate to another part of the main stack? Mostly, to avoid the mainstack bloating in standalone-size as I add game-stacks in the future. Plus, I feel safer with passwords and urls enclosed within a standalone rather than in password protected stacks. If you're still curious about other reasons, my mainstack is where: (a) are links to the various game-stacks, each of a purpose, format and layout completely different (b) the login happens, which only need be done once for any of the game-stacks (when a game is finished, user returns to the mainstack to chose another game) (c) are held common functions that the game-stacks require for connecting to an on-rev cgi Incidentally, some other important commands I'm (re-)learning to work with for this are: -- start using stack -- set the stackFiles of stack tThisStacksName to tStackFiles Yoroshiku. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: On-Rev and setting cookies
Have you seen Sarah's ON-REV pages? http://www.troz.net/onrev/samples/cookies.irev - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 25 February 2010 07:27, Jeffrey Massung mass...@gmail.com wrote: I'm having one helluva time trying to get a single cookie set from my irev files. It doesn't seem to matter what I do, unless I manually set it using the meta tag, the cookie doesn't show up on my system. put test=foobar; into tCookie put header Set-Cookie: tCookie This just doesn't work no matter what I do, where I put it, etc. Everything I read on the On-Rev forums leads me to believe that it should. Note: I actually can't get any 'put header' calls to do what they are supposed to (redirects, etc). Am I missing something? Thanks! Jeff M.___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: On-Rev and setting cookies
Click the REV icon to see the script On 25 February 2010 08:46, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: Have you seen Sarah's ON-REV pages? http://www.troz.net/onrev/samples/cookies.irev - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 25 February 2010 07:27, Jeffrey Massung mass...@gmail.com wrote: I'm having one helluva time trying to get a single cookie set from my irev files. It doesn't seem to matter what I do, unless I manually set it using the meta tag, the cookie doesn't show up on my system. put test=foobar; into tCookie put header Set-Cookie: tCookie This just doesn't work no matter what I do, where I put it, etc. Everything I read on the On-Rev forums leads me to believe that it should. Note: I actually can't get any 'put header' calls to do what they are supposed to (redirects, etc). Am I missing something? Thanks! Jeff M.___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Freezing solid
Um.. we're going to need a little more info than that what were you doing at the time? what platform? sample code? do you mean break out of a loop ? modal dialog? Are you sure it was a freeze? command period often doesn't work as Rev is fast compared to HC. ? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 24 February 2010 09:56, john law m...@john-law.org.uk wrote: Greetings As a sometime Hypercard enthusiast I'm slowly getting used to RunRev. How does one prevent the program locking up in the middle of a job? I then have to force quit - Mac OS Snow Leopard. Thanks JL John Law Panoramas www.john-law.org.uk m...@john-law.org.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: on-rev and coda
the problem is that for it to be recognized, there is a mode document, plugin, whatever that some basic xml - I've got the colors thing worked out but the irev suffix give problems and still isn't associated with rev. But the whole specs are the *SubEthaEdit *site, which is the editor that is embedded in Coda http://www.codingmonkeys.de/subethaedit/modes.html I started with looking at mode for other languages, plus there's a detailed API. I would like to make a better one than I have now - I think it might take a couple of days... or one day with two coders. Coda is what the On-Rev editor should strive to be. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 22 February 2010 20:52, Jeffrey Massung mass...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone here successfully connected to on-rev with coda for editing their web pages? If so, what were the settings you used? Jeff M.___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: on-rev and coda
Cool - that would be it... I looked very carefully before and didn't see it... It might not be totally up to date on all the terms (2005), but it's probably a better starting point than mine. sqb - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 23 February 2010 20:36, Igor de Oliveira Couto i...@pixelmedia.com.auwrote: On 24/02/2010, at 10:57 AM, stephen barncard wrote: the problem is that for it to be recognized, there is a mode document, plugin, whatever that some basic xml - I've got the colors thing worked out but the irev suffix give problems and still isn't associated with rev. But the whole specs are the *SubEthaEdit *site, which is the editor that is embedded in Coda http://www.codingmonkeys.de/subethaedit/modes.html I started with looking at mode for other languages, plus there's a detailed API. I would like to make a better one than I have now - I think it might take a couple of days... or one day with two coders. If you look carefully at the list of available 'modes', there is one close to the bottom called Xtalk/Transcript, made by Christian Langers. Transcript, I believe, is what the Revolution language used to be called, before it became simply 'Revolution'. Have you tried using this? Even if there are alterations that need to be done to the syntax file, perhaps this will already give you a good starting point! Coda is what the On-Rev editor should strive to be. If I could just have the on-rev debugger in Coda, I'd be happy! :) -- Igor de Oliveira Couto Sydney, Australia ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack working in MACOS, not in Windows.
SUCCESS. Found it. *Thank you Jacque, Jim, Mark, **Björnke, Peter* for all your suggestions and I tried them all. here's the fix put the tempname .mp3 into tPath It wasn't really my code, exactly er... it was more of a Win-Mac assumption about MP3 files. My client wanted major obfuscation of the funny business we're doing with the decryption and playing - and wanted to not only have a temp type file name, but no suffix. It worked in mac. But Windows media player really wants to see that suffix. What I really wanted to do in the first place was to play an mp3 file from a variable, not even make a file -- but no way to do that in Rev - without an external ...? is there? sqb - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Bluefish
It must be a thing with LINUX distributions - web sites that show you a lot of tech details, how to download, upgrade, nightly builds.. but they almost always make you really work at finding out what the hell it does!! What does Bluefish do? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 22 February 2010 04:43, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote: http://bfwiki.tellefsen.net/index.php/Installing_Bluefish ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevBrowserPrint
Yes, of course, it would be working with the native printing routines and should look as expected. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 22 February 2010 08:19, Ray Horsley r...@linkit.com wrote: Mark, Good question. So I just printed using revBrowserPrint and got pretty good results. In fact, the clarity was the same quality I would expect in printing any text and it was not grainy at all. Thanks, Ray On Feb 22, 2010, at 5:13 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Ray, Yes, indeed, the printing quality will be bad, but at least you'll be able to print something at all. Do you have any good reason the believe that the revBrowserPrint command produces better results? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new software development projects. Feel free to contact me for a quote. Op 22 feb 2010, om 17:01 heeft Ray Horsley het volgende geschreven: Mark, Thanks for this suggestion, but wouldn't that make the print-out grainy when it comes to the text portion of the print-out? My experience is that printing images of text is usually kind of grainy as compared with printing the actual text fonts (even if they're substituted by printer fonts). I can easily try it on my own printers but that may not reveal what will happen on other printers. What do you think? Thanks, Ray ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack working in MACOS, not in Windows.
I wasn't depending on any player except what was in Rev. In this case it was non-Quicktime installation imbedding Eric's music player code, using the video player object. I am assuming WMP would be the code that would play the file in that situation. What am I to assume, otherwise? The project was non-operational in Win until I used the .mp3 suffix. Anyway, using a suffix is usally the right thing to do when working with files, as far as I can see. And yes, QT also only works from files in the player. But on mac it plays the MP3s without the suffix. This cost a whole bunch of time and I though others should know. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 22 February 2010 04:21, Jim Bufalini j...@visitrieve.com wrote: stephen barncard wrote: SUCCESS. Found it. *Thank you Jacque, Jim, Mark, **Björnke, Peter* for all your suggestions and I tried them all. here's the fix put the tempname .mp3 into tPath It wasn't really my code, exactly er... it was more of a Win-Mac assumption about MP3 files. My client wanted major obfuscation of the funny business we're doing with the decryption and playing - and wanted to not only have a temp type file name, but no suffix. It worked in mac. But Windows media player really wants to see that suffix. What you are saying here is not exactly so. Windows Media Player (wmplayer.exe) would like to see the file extension but does not require it. This is so of many, if not most PC programs (like Rev on PC does not require the .rev extension to know that a file is a stack and to open the stack. A stack can have any extension or no extension.). What needs to see the extension is the OS. The OS uses the extension of a file to know what to open the file with (which program the file extension is associated with). In the case of no extension, or an unknown extension, the user could be prompted to indicate what program to use, or in the case of say a shell, nothing could happen and the file is simply not opened (in your case played). What you can do, is instead of just trying to call the file, call the player and pass the music file as a command line parameter as in: *wmplayer c:\theDirectoryTheMusicIsIn\theMusicFile* (with or without the extension). Now at this point, wmplayer, depending on how it is configured, could open a dialog saying it doesn't recognize the extension, does the user want to attempt to play the file anyway? Or it could just play it. Again, this depends on the configuration of the wmplayer on that machine. Also, you need to be aware that extensions can be switched which means that the OS can be configured to open .mp3 files with a player other than wmplayer. This is another reason, if you are depending on a specific player to launch, to launch the player with a command line parameter rather than just launching the file. As to playing from memory, I believe wmplayer only works with files. Aloha, Jim Bufalini ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Odd selection hangup
doing a quick change between edit and browse ( cmd 0 cmd 9 ) will clear the selection.. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 22 February 2010 07:35, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Someone on one of the forums (Tal) asks why when one has the following code in an object: on selectedObjectChanged set the selected of me to false end selectedObjectChanged one can click on the object when in edit mode, and the object will obligingly deselect itself. But if one drags a selection rectangle to the object, it seems like it remains selected. The handles linger. Operation is otherwise normal, though I am sure I have seen the text in a field under this condition pretty well locked up. It got better. The handles will stick, not forever, but it is not clear to me what I need to to do to get it deSelected, though I have, by fooling around and navigation and stuff, gotten rid of them. Closing the stack does it. Bug? Craig Newman ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Looking for volunteers to create Wikipedia on CD application
You could start with the scripting conferences, one of the most useful tutorial series ever, that many people still don't know about. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 22 February 2010 06:29, Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Björnke von Gierke wrote: Björnke von Gierke wrote: including media installers is allowed by runrev, but of course one should ask em beforehand. Kevin answered this request: on Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 1:58 PM Kevin Miller wrote: That would be fine. Sounds like a great project, best of luck with it! Kind regards, Kevin Who could volunteer to create a list of tutorials and Demos that should be included in this project Wikipedia on CD/DVD to introduce RevTalk to a wider audience and many potential developers? Notice that we must ask for permission to every author to include their work in this project. Thanks in advance. Alejandro On 24 Jan 2010, at 04:04 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: If many RunRev developers joint efforts, we could develop an application that display directly the more recently updated XML database of Wikipedia in every platform supported by RunRev. This project could include (with RunRev permission) the free version of RevMedia and RevWeb, tutorials and Demos to introduce RevTalk to a wider audience and many potential developers. How many of you could devote a few hours weekly to complete this project? Thanks in advance for your comments and ideas! Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Looking-for-volunteers-to-create-Wikipedia-on-CD-application-tp1288518p1564499.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Bluefish
I found the 'real' link. Thanks. I thought that was the core site. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 22 February 2010 08:40, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote: On 22/02/2010 17:55, stephen barncard wrote: It must be a thing with LINUX distributions - web sites that show you a lot of tech details, how to download, upgrade, nightly builds.. but they almost always make you really work at finding out what the hell it does!! What does Bluefish do? It is a very powerful text-editor + http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack working in MACOS, not in Windows.
the saga continue... I think I might be getting close... this works in mac, but not on Windows XP: get the tempName put it .txt into tNamePath put it into tURL put binfile:/ before tURL put the platform return (PUT INTO URL METHOD the time) into URL tURL put URL tURL works as intended on Mac nothing but blank in the message box and no file created on Windows. I'm using 4.5.2 on mac and rev 4.0 on windows. I also created a folder in C:\Documents and Settings\sbarncar\My Documents\Rev Experiments\tests instead of tempname and tried to save there. Nope. Any ideas? This is dumb simple stuff and should just work on both platforms. TEST STACK @ http://barncard.com/putURLtest.rev.zip the stack creates a tempfile and put the contents from that created file into a field for confirmation. thanks - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 20 February 2010 22:12, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: thanks for the tips, Jacque and Mark - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 20 February 2010 12:45, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: stephen barncard wrote: Something is happening between the decoding of the files which are created, and the playing of them. The player code alone works in Windows, so perhaps the decryption is messed up. After you decode the file, try exiting the handler and opening the file and seeing if it will play in a different app. That will at least tell you if the decoding has gone wrong. It isn't clear what kind of encryption you're using but there may be platform differences during decryption. BTW, the dot before a file name will only hide the file on Mac OS X. On Windows it will still be fully visible. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack working in MACOS, not in Windows.
THis works on mac... does Windows require the loss of that character or does that mean my 'typo' got ignored on Mac? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 21 February 2010 12:52, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: stephen barncard wrote: put binfile:/ before tURL Ditch the slash: put binfile: before tURL -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack working in MACOS, not in Windows.
Well the mac ignores it for some reason. Anyway, that typo was not in the script in question and further tests (without my typo) show that files are being written where I want. So it's something with the player not working. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 21 February 2010 13:30, Jim Bufalini j...@visitrieve.com wrote: stephen barncard wrote: THis works on mac... does Windows require the loss of that character or does that mean my 'typo' got ignored on Mac? I've never seen that slash used for binfile: of file: on any platform. Aloha from Hawaii, Jim Bufalini ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack working in MACOS, not in Windows.
on it now - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 21 February 2010 14:13, Jim Bufalini j...@visitrieve.com wrote: stephen barncard wrote: Well the mac ignores it for some reason. Anyway, that typo was not in the script in question and further tests (without my typo) show that files are being written where I want. So it's something with the player not working. I downloaded your test stack and after removing the slash, both of your buttons work on PC. Can you post a test stack which includes whatever is not working/playing on PC? Aloha from Hawaii, Jim Bufalini ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack working in MACOS, not in Windows.
it was a typo - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2010/2/21 Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com A slash at the start of a url means root folder. So when your data is directly in macintosh hd, or when you give it a full path after the slash, then it will work. On 21 Feb 2010, at 22:56, stephen barncard wrote: Well the mac ignores it for some reason. Anyway, that typo was not in the script in question and further tests (without my typo) show that files are being written where I want. So it's something with the player not working. -- official ChatRev page: http://bjoernke.com?target=chatrev Chat with other RunRev developers: go stack URL http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/chatrev1.3b3.rev; ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to enter a time of day
This is absolutely brilliant. What a gift. I'm speaking of both your gift, and the gift to us. Thanks - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 21 February 2010 17:49, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: Recently, Peter Haworth wrote: I have a need for users to enter a start and end time of an event and I'm trying to come up with a graphical way for them to do that to ensure that the time is in the correct format. What appeals to me the most is to use some sort of slider that would increment/decrement the time of day in 15 minute intervals. I was hoping the rev slider control would be the answer to it but it only seems to deal with whole numbers on its scale, haven't been able to figure out how to deal with time-based numbers. Any recommendations on how to set about implementing this? This was a good interface challenge... Instead of using a standard slider, I think a dual slider would be a good solution (but this might depend on the actual time constraints of your day). Can't do this kind of thing with a stock slider however (you'd need two separate sliders). It also occurred to me that mini-calendars are the current de-facto standard for entering dates in forms, so how about a clock face for time entry? I posted an example online that shows both time entry options (don't ask me to explain the math). Execute the following in your Rev message box: go url http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/timesettings.rev; Each set of controls relies on the behavior script that is present on the right side of the stack. Maybe one of these could work. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Q] cocoa/objective-c based rev
I believe the Apple SDK will still be needed (which is free). But what one needs to actually build and submit shouldn't cost more than the $100 developer fee. sqb - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 21 February 2010 17:49, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: On Feb 21, 2010, at 8:34 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote: Am I missing something here? Doesn't Apple need to review the code to let it into the App Store? Don't they review the Objective-C code? They check to see that you're not calling some forbidden internal system routines, but the apps are compiled code, I don't think it matters what the higher level language was that got compiled into that code.___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to enter a time of day
use the slider to manipulate the seconds, and convert to time steps on the fly. Don't use the scale of the slider, instead make your own scale alongside. You might find a lookup table faster than conversion. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 20 February 2010 09:12, Peter Haworth p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote: I have a need for users to enter a start and end time of an event and I'm trying to come up with a graphical way for them to do that to ensure that the time is in the correct format. What appeals to me the most is to use some sort of slider that would increment/decrement the time of day in 15 minute intervals. I was hoping the rev slider control would be the answer to it but it only seems to deal with whole numbers on its scale, haven't been able to figure out how to deal with time-based numbers. Any recommendations on how to set about implementing this? Pete Haworth ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Displaying stack images in revBrowser?
try using full pathnames - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 20 February 2010 09:14, Jeffrey Massung mass...@gmail.com wrote: Is this possible? I'm never loading an external page as opposed to generating the HTML I want to display. I'd like to put an img src=My_Image in the HTML, but it doesn't work. Any clues? Jeff M.___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to enter a time of day
There's some very useful code in Marty's stack - I modified it slightly so as to use a behavior and put the slider components into a group rather than putting the scripts in the buttons, so I could use the same code with any number of sliders. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 20 February 2010 09:35, Marty Knapp martykn...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Peter, I don't know if it would help, but I have a stack at RevOnline called Marty's Sliders that would give you more flexibility and could perhaps be adapted for your use. At the end of the mouseMove handler there's a line that computes a value and puts it into a field to in effect show the thumbPosition of the slider. Marty Knapp I have a need for users to enter a start and end time of an event and I'm trying to come up with a graphical way for them to do that to ensure that the time is in the correct format. What appeals to me the most is to use some sort of slider that would increment/decrement the time of day in 15 minute intervals. I was hoping the rev slider control would be the answer to it but it only seems to deal with whole numbers on its scale, haven't been able to figure out how to deal with time-based numbers. Any recommendations on how to set about implementing this? Pete Haworth ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Displaying stack images in revBrowser?
That is a very good question. Forgive me for being so abrupt. So is the address supposed to be relative to the stack or to the browser libraries of the host system?? We should know this. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 20 February 2010 09:35, Jeffrey Massung mass...@gmail.com wrote: What full path name? To be clear: I know I can use file:// and ship the image along with the app as a resource. I'd prefer not to do that and just use the image that's already embedded in the stack file (if possible). Jeff M. On Feb 20, 2010, at 11:22 AM, stephen barncard wrote: try using full pathnames ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: the files, get URL and Unicode File Names
Igor, why don't you try and use the detailed files, URLDecode it and parse out the filenames? Perhaps URLDecoding can preserve those characters. just a thought. Not tested. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 20 February 2010 13:48, Igor de Oliveira Couto i...@pixelmedia.com.auwrote: Dear List Members, I am trying to write a reasonably simple test script, which would iterate through every file in a chosen directory, and give me the md5 checksum for that file. I am coming across a problem, which *may* be related to Unicode, but I'm not certain. The algorithm is like this: * user selects directory * get list of files in directory (using 'the files') * for every file in the list: ** get the file data stream (using 'get URL binfile:...') ** get the checksum The function that gets the datastream using 'get URL' returns 'empty' in case it cannot find the file. I am finding, that when a file has certain accented or foreign characters in its name, 'get URL' is unable to find it - even though it is using the original unmodified string returned by 'the files'... What is most puzzling, is that this does not happen with *every* file that has an international character in it - files with french, spanish, german or even scandinavian characters fly through without a hitch. But if I have a file that has a ĉ (c+circumflex) or ŭ (u+breve) in its name, for instance, it chokes. Am I doing something wrong, or missing something basic? - or did I hit a limitation, or bug? Many thanks for any guidance, -- Igor de Oliveira Couto Sydney, Australia PS - the code in full, for those interested: 1) Make a new Mainstack, and add a field named folderContents, and a button. 2) Put the following into the button's script: on mouseUp answer folder Please select a folder: if it is empty then exit mouseUp local tDefault, tItems put the defaultFolder into tDefault set the defaultFolder to it put empty into field folderContents put the files into tItems repeat for each line xLine in tItems put name= quote xLine quote after field folderContents put checksum= quote fileDigest(the defaultFolder / xLine) quote return after field folderContents end repeat filter field folderContents without empty set the defaultFolder to tDefault end mouseUp function hexDigest pvalue local tRes, tMD5 put md5Digest(pValue) into tMD5 get binaryDecode(H*,tMD5,tRes) return tRes end hexDigest function fileDigest pFile if there is a file pFile then get URL (binfile: pFile) return hexDigest(it) else return empty end if end fileDigest___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack working in MACOS, not in Windows.
thanks for the tips, Jacque and Mark - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 20 February 2010 12:45, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: stephen barncard wrote: Something is happening between the decoding of the files which are created, and the playing of them. The player code alone works in Windows, so perhaps the decryption is messed up. After you decode the file, try exiting the handler and opening the file and seeing if it will play in a different app. That will at least tell you if the decoding has gone wrong. It isn't clear what kind of encryption you're using but there may be platform differences during decryption. BTW, the dot before a file name will only hide the file on Mac OS X. On Windows it will still be fully visible. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack working in MACOS, not in Windows.
I just need a Windows test bed for REV, not the latest version of Windows. I really don't want to have to deal with all this extra security crap. Will Windows XP SP3 do what I need for now to test out Rev Features? Microsoft is really trying hard to get people to NOT use XP. They are buying a ton of adwords with keywords like Download Windows XP that swamps the search engines. These sites are just a bunch of domains that redirect to the Windows 7 sales site. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2010/2/19 Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com if it's visa or seven, you might run into virtualisation when writing to the system application folder. On 19 Feb 2010, at 05:12, stephen barncard wrote: ... Perhaps it's pathnames - On the mac, the folders with the encrypted audio data are located right next to the executable in the MacOS folder. On the PC - I've instructed him to put the folders just outside the .exe Same path, right? -- and I use the effective filename of this stack to find out where I am for both... -- official ChatRev page: http://bjoernke.com?target=chatrev Chat with other RunRev developers: go stack URL http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/chatrev1.3b3.rev; ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack working in MACOS, not in Windows.
The client is using Windows XP. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2010/2/19 Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com if it's visa or seven, you might run into virtualisation when writing to the system application folder. On 19 Feb 2010, at 05:12, stephen barncard wrote: ... Perhaps it's pathnames - On the mac, the folders with the encrypted audio data are located right next to the executable in the MacOS folder. On the PC - I've instructed him to put the folders just outside the .exe Same path, right? -- and I use the effective filename of this stack to find out where I am for both... -- official ChatRev page: http://bjoernke.com?target=chatrev Chat with other RunRev developers: go stack URL http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/chatrev1.3b3.rev; ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack working in MACOS, not in Windows.
Something is happening between the decoding of the files which are created, and the playing of them. The player code alone works in Windows, so perhaps the decryption is messed up. I can see that if this is to be fixed then I will just have to roll up my sleeves and go into the Matrix. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 19 February 2010 13:05, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: stephen barncard wrote: I just need a Windows test bed for REV, not the latest version of Windows. I really don't want to have to deal with all this extra security crap. Will Windows XP SP3 do what I need for now to test out Rev Features? It will, since your client is using XP, but it may not if anyone else uses the app with a later version of Windows, it depends on what the app needs to do. I couldn't find where you said exactly what is failing. What goes wrong when it's run on Windows? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack working in MACOS, not in Windows.
Well quite frankly my distaste for windows and my involvement in the arts has pushed me toward macintosh clients, and in this case I'm helping a person with no evidence of further profit for me at this point, so investing in a Dell or whatever is just not in my immediate future. Anyway, that's one opinion, I see many Rev developers seemingly using a Macbook exclusively for x-platform dev and turning out good stuff. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 19 February 2010 16:07, Peter Alcibiades palcibiades-fi...@yahoo.co.ukwrote: I, of course the ever- mac-evangelist (Yes I was on Guy's Evangel-list) have put off my day of Windows reckoning until this moment, and cannot test this out for myself. I am paying the price for my platform bigotry. It makes no sense. Virtual machines are not good enough. If you want to develop as a professional for a platform, you have to have that platform in physical form to test on. The most you can do is share a keyboard and screen and mouse via hardware switching. Anything else, sooner or later, its going to bite you and the customer. Spend the tiny amount of money involved, buy one second hand if must be, but buy one. Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Popup menu selection
Hi Gang, This brings me right to an issue I'm having. I have a tricky thing that uses several cards in a single stack used as a drawer. I want to go cleanly to a certain card in the stack before the drawer is displayed. What's the best way to make the drawer open cleanly without showing another card? Or better yet, how to change the current card for a drawer stack without it showing or flashing before display? thanks for any ideas. sqb - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 18 February 2010 10:57, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: Trevor DeVore wrote: On Feb 18, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: To counter this, Ken Ray and I have adopted a habit of using a handler like this one to set an option control's current choice: on SetOption pBtnName, pNum lock messages set the menuHistory of btn pBtnName to pNum unlock messages end SetOption One small suggestion. It is a good idea to restore the lockMessages to it's original state when setting the property in a library call. Unlike lock/unlock screen the engine doesn't keep track of how many times lock/unlock messages has been called. Messages are either locked or not. Restoring the state can save headaches later on if you had messages locked before calling SetOption and can't figure out why messages are locked after calling it. on SetOption pBtnName, pNum put the lockMessages into theMsgsAreLocked lock messages set the menuHistory of btn pBtnName to pNum set the lockMessages to theMsgsAreLocked end SetOption Good catch. One of the downsides to writing code off the cuff to the list rather than digging up my library is overlooking important details like that. Thanks for the more complete version. While looking into the lockMessages property recently I came across this note: The lockMessages property is automatically set to false when a palette, modeless, or modal stack is opened, even if a handler is still running. This struck me as a bit odd. I can understand why it's like that for modal dialogs, since they more or less operate as though in their own event loop. But palettes? Is that useful? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Parallels or VMWare Fusion?
This would be a good time to find out what people are using for x-platform dev with macs-- What is the most 'centric' version of Windows to allow one develop in a virtualized space with minimum fuss (if that's possible with Windows). I'm considering the free Sun virtualizer - what are the pros and cons vs the others? ( and I don't want to use Boot Camp - too inconvenient) thanks - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 18 February 2010 14:56, Jeff Massung mass...@gmail.com wrote: I've used both and definitely liked VMware far more than Parallels. But, Parallels has since gone from version 3 to 5, and perhaps it's improved. Jeff M. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Odd colour effects with mac plug in
I had a similar effect with ISHOW-U HD; they had to code around the fact that G5's showed the captured video in PURPLE. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 18 February 2010 16:05, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Hi, This is seems to be a problem related to PowerPC processors. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new projects. Op 19 feb 2010, om 00:57 heeft J. Landman Gay het volgende geschreven: Kevin Stallibrass wrote: I downloaded the latest plug in from the mother ship and sure enough, it works! Except that all text in the revlet is now bright blue where it should be black and cyan where it should be red. Interestingly, any plug in dialogues also display blue text. The exception appears to be text within a drop down menu or combo box. This displays fine. Odd. If your stacks don't have their own colors set, they will inherit the default colors of the OS. I wonder if your revlet thinks those are your browser's default colors. You could try building your revlet using a stack that has its backcolor and fontcolor specifically set the way you want and see if that works. When standalones are built, they used to always inherit the colors of the Home stack if they didn't have their own. I wonder if revlets are bypassing that by mistake. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Parallels or VMWare Fusion?
Yeah, I got Sun Vbox when I downloaded the Linux package that Andre arranged. I tried to get the package working, but the image I downloaded was not recognized so I didn't get to try the virtualizer yet. Andre said point it (the virtualizer) to the package but I couldn't get it to show up. Does someone know the trick? thanks sqb - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 18 February 2010 19:11, Len Morgan len-mor...@crcom.net wrote: You might also want to take a look at VirtualBox by Sun. It's free, fast, and cross platform. http://www.virtualbox.org len On 2/18/2010 6:53 PM, runrev260...@m-r-d.de wrote: Thanks for all your comments. So the best is i have to look at both programs. Maybe there are trial versions available. Now i have to wait about 14 days for my mac to arrive. There seems to be delivery problems with the iMac. But i can treat with that. What are 14 days compared to the time i am waiting for the conference dvds. ;-) Matthias Original Message Subject: OT: Parallels or VMWare Fusion? (18-Feb-2010 23:53) From:runrev260...@m-r-d.de To: runrev260...@m-r-d.de Dear all, i am in the process of switching from Windows to Mac.Not really switching, but i want to develop on Mac OS X. As i am using some tools, which are not available for Mac, i need to run a virtual machine also on my mac. On my windows machines i am running several virtual machines on VmWare Workstation and i am really satisfied with it. So i would prefer VmWare Fusion. especially because i could move my existing virtual machines also to the Mac. But this is not a requirement. Are there any users on the list, which are using one or maybe both of the programs and could tell me, if there are any problems with the programs especially using Revstandalones under virtual Windows machines? Regards, Matthias ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Stack working in MACOS, not in Windows.
Hi again, I have a client's project that must be compiled for both mac and windows. To save money, we worked out an agreement for me to write the initial code for mac and test it and he'd compile for the other platform. I, of course the ever- mac-evangelist (Yes I was on Guy's Evangel-list) have put off my day of Windows reckoning until this moment, and cannot test this out for myself. I am paying the price for my platform bigotry. It's some kind of language-learning thing, I don't know - he was quite secretive and really didn't tell me what this was for, just exact specs on the way it looked and exactly what he wanted it to do. Anyway, the basic idea is that this player loads in a pre-encrypted audio file inside the mac app package, decrypts the file (it's an MP3) and since we can't run audio from a variable, I have to create a temp file to play the audio. So I use the tempname, then delete each temp file when there are more than two (sort of a cache if it's played repeatedly). The file begins with a dot, just to make everyone feel better. It's name is just an encoded time-stamp. I'm using much of Eric Chatonet's example code to run the player part. (yes I've donated several times and will again) This does use the encryption library, but he was sure he had the enterprise version. So the last culprit might be the player. But Eric's demo stack DID compile for windows. Also there were problems with drag and drop. I know this lame asking for clues about something I don't have a way to test at the moment.. but for the sake of the client I felt like I should ask if anyone else here has had any similar experience. This is a really simple stack with no platform dependencies except Quicktime. Perhaps it's pathnames - On the mac, the folders with the encrypted audio data are located right next to the executable in the MacOS folder. On the PC - I've instructed him to put the folders just outside the .exe Same path, right? -- and I use the effective filename of this stack to find out where I am for both... The companion encryption stack works fine for both platforms. thanks for any clues. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: FYI: writing to and reading from fields much faster than locals, globals or custom properties
That is counter to what we've been taught was the case previously. In previous versions the field overhead was far greater than CPs. Perhaps it's the multi-dimensional aspect. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 17 February 2010 20:10, Josh Mellicker j...@dvcreators.net wrote: You all probably know this, but thought I would share our experience anyway: We are working on a project with a 1 millisecond callback loop that communicates with an external process in a performance-critical application, and when prototyping, temporarily used some fields on a card to write and read values from during the loop. Then, while buttoning things up, instead of fields, we switched to reading and writing a custom property. Suddenly, everything went sluggish - you had to click on a button several times to trigger it, you could barely move stack windows, etc. It took a while to figure out the culprit, but once we went line by line from our original prototype script, wee found that going back to reading and writing to a field made everything work smoothly again! Then we tried local, then a global variable... not good... same result as custom properties. So if you are writing an app where performance is critical, Rev reads and writes to fields super fast!___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Connecting Stack to Remote On-Rev MySQL Database
localhost databases accesses only Not true... otherwise it would be impossible to use apps like Navicat or a Rev MySQL-based project remotely. All you need to do is to open up the available IPs -- On-Rev MySQL will work with to your fixed IP or a wild card %. -- Of course that is with less security for the connection, plain text and all. at least... As long as i know, the on-rev security model is set to allow localhost databases accesses only and it's fine soo. Best, P. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: FileTypes and Creators
If type and creator are not listed, then they are empty and whatever created the files did not include that information in the file - it's not automatic on file creation. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 11 February 2010 13:28, Ray Horsley r...@linkit.com wrote: Anybody know how to find out what these 8 characters are for any given Mac file? I'm particularly interested in .zip files but it would be nice to know how to ascertain this for any Mac file. Getting the long files or the detailed files usually leaves off the 11th param which is just what I'm looking for; the creator and file type. Thanks, Ray Horsley LinkIt! Software ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: FileTypes and Creators
RE file types and creators, this is a utility that every mac developer should have. It allows examination and batch change of file types and creators. FILE TYPE AND CREATOR http://www.frederikseiffert.de/filetype/ This is a great companion for batch suffix OR any name changes: R-NAME http://movieconverter.online.fr/DL/R-NameUB.zip the original author and his website have disappeared, but someone has kindly recompiled from the source code this version, Universal, which works with Mac OS10.5.8 PPC for me. There is some word that this utility destroys spotlight comments, no biggie for me. Both are Donationware products that I've used for years. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 11 February 2010 10:50, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: If type and creator are not listed, then they are empty and whatever created the files did not include that information in the file - it's not automatic on file creation. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 11 February 2010 13:28, Ray Horsley r...@linkit.com wrote: Anybody know how to find out what these 8 characters are for any given Mac file? I'm particularly interested in .zip files but it would be nice to know how to ascertain this for any Mac file. Getting the long files or the detailed files usually leaves off the 11th param which is just what I'm looking for; the creator and file type. Thanks, Ray Horsley LinkIt! Software ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: FileTypes and Creators
tar in the shell man tar in terminal tar -cjf foo.tar.bz2 bar/ create bzipped tar archive of the directory bar called foo.tar.bz2 fast and efficient. does what you want, preserves file folder hierarchy. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 11 February 2010 14:54, Ray Horsley r...@linkit.com wrote: What I've actually got is a folder of about 1000 tiny GIF files, about 4K each, and I'm trying to setup an automatic download both on Mac and Windows. The download at 4 megs with so many files takes forever unless I compress the files using zip on the Mac and StuffIt on Windows to make an SEA. Windows works nice and transparently since StuffIt for Windows lets me prepare the SEA so it auto extracts in the same folder and self deletes. The problem on the Mac side is the zip file does not self extract since I can't count on Archive Utility being there (sometimes it's call BOM Archive or something weird). Even if I use Rev's launch command to try to extract from the zip file it returns true in the result but does nothing. Unfortunately StuffIt for Mac doesn't let me set it up to extract to the same folder which means I have to prompt the user to determine where things go, definitely a no-no in educational software. Rev's compress feature doesn't seem to let me combine multiple files into a single file. Any ideas? Thanks, Ray Horsley LinkIt! Software On Feb 11, 2010, at 11:04 AM, stephen barncard wrote: RE file types and creators, this is a utility that every mac developer should have. It allows examination and batch change of file types and creators. FILE TYPE AND CREATOR http://www.frederikseiffert.de/filetype/ This is a great companion for batch suffix OR any name changes: R-NAME http://movieconverter.online.fr/DL/R-NameUB.zip the original author and his website have disappeared, but someone has kindly recompiled from the source code this version, Universal, which works with Mac OS10.5.8 PPC for me. There is some word that this utility destroys spotlight comments, no biggie for me. Both are Donationware products that I've used for years. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 11 February 2010 10:50, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: If type and creator are not listed, then they are empty and whatever created the files did not include that information in the file - it's not automatic on file creation. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 11 February 2010 13:28, Ray Horsley r...@linkit.com wrote: Anybody know how to find out what these 8 characters are for any given Mac file? I'm particularly interested in .zip files but it would be nice to know how to ascertain this for any Mac file. Getting the long files or the detailed files usually leaves off the 11th param which is just what I'm looking for; the creator and file type. Thanks, Ray Horsley LinkIt! Software ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sorta OT: Buying runrev?
but we are - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 11 February 2010 16:39, -= JB =- sund...@pacifier.com wrote: Just as long as you aren't supporting one overseas I guess. -=JB=- On Feb 11, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Wait, this is America! I thought Revolution was a good thing?? :-) Bob On Feb 11, 2010, at 4:26 PM, -= JB =- wrote: The problem I had was not just my bank. It was with WorldPay and the fact the money was going overseas plus the word which caused the red flag. So it took a special combination of things. -=JB=- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: Andre's house - completely offtopic
One has to manually click and zoom to locate - if one searches, one leaves the page. You're right - it is a spam magnet - so probably should be locked after a point. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 10 February 2010 06:23, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.com wrote: I think it is good now... But it is not simple to understand interface !! Thanks René Le 10 févr. 2010 à 15:00, Björnke von Gierke a écrit : Hi I made a google maps entry that is open for anyone to edit. If you have a google account of any sorts, you can go here, and click on save to my maps and then edit to add your own location: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8hl=enmsa=0msid=103560329393675966954.00047f3f26dbe66f71c2dll=17.978733,12.304688spn=124.244284,268.242188t=hz=2 Caveats: This could be a spam magnet, I'll test it out and if it doesn't work, I'll delete it again. I tried to import the old map from Frappr. However, there where several problems, so I opted to not use that import, and start fresh. Some example problems: Images didn't come trough There where more incomplete or broken entries then real ones Those entries which did work where strangely merged ie. the name would be put into the comment field, doubled text, etc. Have fun Björnke On 9 Feb 2010, at 10:37, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Just a thought, isn't there anywhere in the net a tool where we could open a group where everybody could pin his location on the world map (like the cities I've visited in facebook). I think it would be interesting to see how wide spread the Rev community is, though a jungle place on Puerto Rico probably is the most exotic, William :) Any idea? -- official ChatRev page: http://bjoernke.com?target=chatrev Chat with other RunRev developers: go stack URL http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/chatrev1.3b3.rev; ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Large Format Printing With Rev?
I keep hearing more and more about SVG lately - Robert Cailliau's favorite markup. Seems like a vector to SVG converter ( and vv) could be built in rev - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 10 February 2010 12:55, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: Scott, I have no clue whatsoever, but if it is all vector graphics, can you convert it to SVG? it is just fancy XML and should not care about resolution. Cheers andre On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: Hi List Folks: Does anybody have any experience with large format imaging using Rev? I seem to recall Rev has a size limit when it comes to card size, but if a card of simple text and graphics could be converted into some kind of common vector output, the size limit might not be a show stopper. I'm pretty sure Rev's roots were in EPS and/or display PostScript -- could this contribute to a solution? Thanks for any advice. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Our place in Hawaii....
My safari browser launched FlipForMac for audio uncompressed AIFF?? wow hi-fi - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 10 February 2010 14:49, Sivakatirswami ka...@hindu.org wrote: Some may wonder where we are and what it's like here. A recent visitor, with a high end camera did an amazing job and I could not resist putting this into an iRev slide show. http://www.himalayanacademy.com/slideshows/aadheenam/2009/ka_2009-12-30_thushyanthan-aadheenam/ Music by famed Tamil singer Pon Sundarlingam and his rockin' back up group in Toronto. The song praises a great sage from Sri Lanka, saying that he gave us one sweet gift in the words: This soul is eternal, indeed. Back on topic... I'm really pleased with this frame work. I can adjust the size, rates, etc everything all on one page ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Anyone else under two feet of snow
Here in San Francisco, it's 50 degrees. As usual. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 7 February 2010 20:14, Judy Perry jper...@ecs.fullerton.edu wrote: Here in San Diego I am marvelling at this strange precipitation from the sky that I hear is called rain, whatever that is ;-) Judy On Sat, 6 Feb 2010, Jim Ault wrote: and in Vegas it is tennis weather. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Embedded Flash Player
Jiro, this is an awesome application. Great work. sqb - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 8 February 2010 16:46, Jiro Harada j...@ronri-kobo.com wrote: Bob, Has anyone done any work with embedding a flash player in a rev app? I have created an application(F-ab) embedded a flash player. Visit the web site: http://www.f-ab.net/ F-ab is created by Runtime Revolution 3.0. I developed an external BlendCoffee to display Flash movies in Rev. In Fab, Flash movies are controlled by Transcript. (I haven't updated it one year or more.) Jiro Harada On 2010/02/09, at 8:32, Bob Sneidar wrote: Hi all. Has anyone done any work with embedding a flash player in a rev app? I have a special case situation where someone who recently suffered a minor stroke wants to view one specific flash stream, but his memory is so bad he cannot remember to close the browser window before he switches HDMI inputs, and subsequently, when he switches back, the monitor has dropped the HDMI signal from the computer. I could easily write an app that opened a full screen player and then with a click of the mouse quit the application, but I need to know how to embed the player in Rev. Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: on-rev queries
x86 INTEL ONLY. Burned again. Nothing for us G5 losers. there is nothing wrong with my machine, except it's a g5. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 4 February 2010 15:44, Jim Bufalini j...@visitrieve.com wrote: Bob and Sarah and anyone else using MySQL, I have used a MySQL database via On-Rev and it has seemed very fast for both reading writing, but I did all the setup through cPanel and phpMyAdmin first. The cPanel and phpMyAdmin is OK in that it works, but I find it very clumsy. Check out MySQL Workbench (the Community Edition) at http://mysql.com/products/workbench/. It's completely free, cross-platform (PC, Mac, Linux), runs from your desktop, and has one of the best ER Modeling modules I've ever seen. At this point you can download version 5.1 or 5.2 (which is considered beta) but I have found it very stable and it's quite different from 5.1. Aloha from Hawaii, Jim Bufalini ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: on-rev queries
Bob, on my last project I had some time-outs issues - I thought at the time it was more 'economical' to keep the connection open for multiple queries and I spend a whole bunch of energy making a pinger to keep the connection open -- That was probably true for the 65 or so rapid fire queries I was doing for a special app; open , do 65 queries, close. But I found that leaving the connection open all the time was really pointless - there isn't that much latency in the opening and closing of connections - most of the time is spent funneling textual data to the client - the database. In the end I now think that closing often is good - it releases the server when not needed. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 4 February 2010 16:05, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Hi Jim. Thanks for the info. I'm always in the hunt for a good mySQL utility. The original post was really about what happens when on-rev drops the connection due to an idle timeout. What happens is, the communication between Revolution fails, but it takes close to 10 minutes for Revolution to stop beach balling. This may or may not be typical of all mySQL servers, but when I ran all this on a local mySQL server I did not have these timeout problems. I was alerted right away that the connection was bad. My particular application merges and syncs two databases with each other, so it becomes important to create and drop tables automatically, as well as insert columns and such. So simply using a utility to do these things will not get me there. My fix of always connecting at the beginning of every script that needs access, and disconnecting at the end of every script that made the connection works for now. It's probably better to do this anyway, as we have an online grading system at our K-12 school that requires persistent connections, and fails if anything glitches or burps on the network. I can never reset the routers or switches during school hours without incurring the wrath of school admins. :-) Thanks. Bob On Feb 4, 2010, at 3:44 PM, Jim Bufalini wrote: Bob and Sarah and anyone else using MySQL, I have used a MySQL database via On-Rev and it has seemed very fast for both reading writing, but I did all the setup through cPanel and phpMyAdmin first. The cPanel and phpMyAdmin is OK in that it works, but I find it very clumsy. Check out MySQL Workbench (the Community Edition) at http://mysql.com/products/workbench/. It's completely free, cross-platform (PC, Mac, Linux), runs from your desktop, and has one of the best ER Modeling modules I've ever seen. At this point you can download version 5.1 or 5.2 (which is considered beta) but I have found it very stable and it's quite different from 5.1. Aloha from Hawaii, Jim Bufalini ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: on-rev queries
Yes, I laud the upgrade to Intel, it was totally a wise decision. It's just that the $$ I have in my two-screen media monster here is REALLY becoming depressingly obsolete. ProTools HD (original PCI cards) has stopped supporting G5s after the last version 8.01. It's been 9 years with those cards, a pretty good run for this kins of stuff. That's the way it goes, in the digital wonderland. Well if the cooling doesn't blow up It can always become a server... - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 4 February 2010 16:10, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: I feel your pain. We have about 7 or 8 towers here and they are still very viable for things like graphics, audio and video post, etc. Our primary router is a G5 tower running Vicomsoft Intergate! However, think of the Mac world if Apple never switched to Intel. No Parallels or VMWare. No PC apps running on my Mac. I think the Apple market would have suffered tremendously. A LOT of avid PC people have switched to Mac when they learned they could still keep their beloved Windows and software. Funny thing is, most of the people I know who switched, liked the Mac OS so much they never use the PC side anymore. :-) Bob On Feb 4, 2010, at 4:05 PM, stephen barncard wrote: x86 INTEL ONLY. Burned again. Nothing for us G5 losers. there is nothing wrong with my machine, except it's a g5. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: stack compatibility
I wouldn't count on compiled apps. Both OS versions you mentioned have moved quite a bit forward. The old stacks, of course could be used and compiled on the newer IDE and engine. sqb - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 3 February 2010 12:57, Rick Rice rick-r...@shaw.ca wrote: Will stacks created with Rvolution 2.6.1 run under the latest Microsft OS Windows 7 and the latest Macintosh OS Snow Leopard? Thanks. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Hypercard import ?
hold the optionkey down before opening dialog. That should over-ride the type filtering at the system level. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2010/2/3 Pierre pierre.berna...@mac.com I'm using Rev/enterprise version 4.5.0. with Leopard X.6.2 on a MacPro. I would like to convert an old Hypercard stack to Runrev. I did it a few years ago with an old version of Rev. I can't do it today. I can't open the stack directly from Rev, the stack isn't seen from Rev. I can't change the Open with of the 'Information Window' from Hypercard to Revolution. My question is: Can Rev V.4.5 open and convert an hypercard Stack ? What are the solutions to do it ? Many thanks to any one who could give me an idea Pierre___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: MS Word document export
The shell is your friend. Check out textutil in the shell. (man textutil) Mac OSX 10.4. and onward has document conversion routines built into the system. RTF, HTML, DOC, DOCX, WEBARCHIVE, ODT are some of the formats. Someone (please identify one's self in one's demo stacks!) has uploaded to REV ONLINE a very simple stack that demonstrates conversion to-from various text formats using shell calls. However, REV ONLINE, one of the most difficult to navigate and unresponsive parts of the IDE, is completely down today. Contact me offline if you really need the stack, the author has indicated he's giving it freely. However, the calls are so simple and well documented that it could be a good exercise in getting a shell call to work for you, just using the documentation. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 27 January 2010 20:44, dr.alist...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Curry, I'd be interested in having a look at the beta of the word export. I am currently using merge() to create reports for an application that I am working on. A library to do this sort of stuff sounds like a really useful tool. I would like to use OpenOffice, by preference, so I'm interested in that too. Apart from trying it out, will I be bale to look at how you are writing the library. I'm not a very good programmer but if I can help I'd like to. cheers Alistair Campbell dr.alist...@gmail.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: iPadding around?
Enough power, but you still gotta go through the app store. And they probably won't let any app builders like Rev on the unit. Not that I'd want to do any programming on the thing. I need two 23 displays these days. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2010/1/27 Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net On Jan 27, 2010, at 1:39 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: http://live.gdgt.com/2010/01/27/live-apple-come-see-our-latest-creation-tablet-event-coverage/ [doesn't, frankly, do much for me, but there we are . . . ] You may have written your email too soon. It can run iWork apps, not just Mail and Safari. I'm sure it has enough power for Rev. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: iPadding around?
It's not a luxury, Richmond, my eyesight sucks. Sorry you have monitor envy, but my screen space is wasted, I blow it al up big. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2010/1/27 Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com On 27/01/2010 21:17, stephen barncard wrote: Enough power, but you still gotta go through the app store. And they probably won't let any app builders like Rev on the unit. Not that I'd want to do any programming on the thing. I need two 23 displays these days. Gosh, we are 'aristocratic' aren't we! We peasants, labouring in the basement have to cope with 17 inches. Mind you, its not the size that matters, it's what . . . :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Australian internet blackout
Sarah, that's a troubling issue. Has the EFF Electronic Frontier Foundation gotten involved? I know the founder John Barlow personally from my Grateful Dead days sqb - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 27 January 2010 22:15, Sarah Reichelt sarah.reich...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I would like to apologise for any inconvenience, but anyone visiting my web site over the next week will see a blackout message in protest against the Australian government's planned compulsory internet filtering. This is a badly considered policy that will not achieve it's intended goal, but will block legitimate sites without recourse. Any Australian's who wish to register their protest can sign the petition at http://www.efa.org.au/petition/. Thank you for your attention. Normal programming will now be resumed :-) Regards, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The seconds and time zones
Did anyone comment on Mark Waddingham's time solution using iRev? http://runrev.com/newsletter/may/issue71/newsletter2.php I thought it was brilliant. Lots of great example stories in the issues of revUp. Unfortunately, they are not indexed or searchable, and it's a bear trying to find an old article. I only found this as it was deep within my own bookmarks. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2010/1/26 Bernard Devlin bdrun...@gmail.com On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 6:12 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: Bernard Devlin wrote: I'll be glad if Jacque (no s) confirms this. It will make my life easier. I was sure she had recommended internet date. Nope, it was Richard. But I guarantee that anything Sarah or Richard says about time calcs is correct. ;) Regarding the seconds: when I was hosting the scripting conferences I used to announce the time of the next meeting in seconds. I'd post the seconds to the list and anyone who wanted to attend would convert it to their own time and see just when they needed to be online. That was Sarah's idea and it worked just great. There was something satisfying also about using Rev to figure out when to meet to use Rev. This is all good to know. So, generally the seconds can be used, but there might be the most exceptional circumstances to do with daylight saving and reboots (and in cases where the international time at which something happened is so important than maybe one ought to be using an external source like Jim suggests). Good to know. Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Haggis Ban In America ends.
And roadkill haggis! Like manifold chicken. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2010/1/25 Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com Lynn, That is correct, sir! Plus, I believe there is an armadillo haggis here. Best, Jerry Daniels The latest Rev Editor Video: http://reveditor.com/write-your-own-plugins-for-trev On Jan 25, 2010, at 11:19 AM, Lynn Fredricks wrote: offal |'ôf?l; 'äf?l| noun the entrails and internal organs of an animal used as food. • refuse or waste material. • decomposing animal flesh. ORIGIN late Middle English (in the sense [refuse from a process] ): probably suggested by Middle Dutch afval, from af ‘off’ + vallen ‘to fall.’ If you eat that crap (and I mean that in the most literal sense) you are going to need a lot more whiskey. Now you might want to ask Jerry or Chipp, but I think in Texan, the definition for offal is anything eaten that isn't steak :-) Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: HTML Editor
CK Editor won't work in revbrowser? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2010/1/25 Warren Kuhl warrenk...@gmail.com I am looking for a WYSIWYG HTML editor I can attach to a text field (similar to FCKeditor). Any direction would be greatly appreciated! Warren ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: HTML Editor
There's a very useful stack called rev htmlToCss, with a CKEditor like toolbar. It was a very good experiment and test stack to prepare rev htmlText in a field for web use. It was offered free by Dreamscape Software (Derek Bump?) and shows up at warez sites (??) all over the net. Nothing on the Dreamscape site today. I thought it used to be on the first Rev Online, but I can't find it (and have a hell of a time navigating either one ). I have it here along with modified versions; Contact me off line if you can't find it among these dubious sites: http://www.google.com/search?client=safarirls=enq=dreamscape+htmltocssie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8 Also Eric Chatonet* has a good demo stack to go from and to from rev htmlText. (* yes I know he's gone, but his site is still up and his utilities I use every day.. ) - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2010/1/25 Warren Kuhl warrenk...@gmail.com Stephen, I was also looking into this. I actually decided to write one myself as I need a very basic editor. Warren On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:37 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: CK Editor won't work in revbrowser? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2010/1/25 Warren Kuhl warrenk...@gmail.com I am looking for a WYSIWYG HTML editor I can attach to a text field (similar to FCKeditor). Any direction would be greatly appreciated! Warren ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Haggis Ban In America ends.
At last! http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jan/24/america-haggis-ban-lifted-burns - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Geometry manager
I will never bring up the Geometry topic again. Brussel Sprouts give me a headache. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 23 January 2010 00:00, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote: On 23/01/2010 03:24, Mark Wieder wrote: Jacque- Friday, January 22, 2010, 5:13:00 PM, you wrote: I like brussels sprouts... There's hope for you yet. Try roasting them with sweet potatoes. Pop sweet potatoes in the microwave oven, crack them open and fill with butter and zaatar: http://www.theepicentre.com/Spices/zaatar.html or try your local Arabic shop. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
folder or bundle
Hi again everyone, How does one detect the 'bundle-ness' of an OSX folder in Rev (desktop) script? I need to filter out apps and other bundle files in a drag and drop operation. thanks in advance. sqb - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: folder or bundle
thank you, Jacque and Richard... sqb - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2010/1/21 Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com J. Landman Gay wrote: stephen barncard wrote: Hi again everyone, How does one detect the 'bundle-ness' of an OSX folder in Rev (desktop) script? I need to filter out apps and other bundle files in a drag and drop operation. I believe all bundles contain a file named PkgInfo at the top level of the bundle folder. You could check for that. If memory serves I've removed the Pkg.info file from standalones and they continue to be see by the Finder as bundles. This ADC page describes the ways bundles are identified: -- How the System Identifies Bundles and Packages The Finder considers a directory to be a package if any of the following conditions are true: * The directory has a known filename extension: .app, .bundle, .framework, .plugin, .kext, and so on. * The directory has an extension that some other application claims represents a package type; see “Document Packages.” * The directory has its package bit set. http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/CoreFoundation/Conceptual/CFBundles/AboutBundles/AboutBundles.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/1123i-CH100-SW1 -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Little poll about Revolution script editor
Well, there are options for users to consider as well, included in the same bundle you just spoke about. Jerry Daniels' tRev does not italicize comments, only colors them, and has other formatting features not offered in the IDE editor that you might consider. A lot of people are using this alternative editor, and I wonder how your product works with it. It will be interesting to hear from Jerry on this. As far as the IDE editor, there are far more tweaks than just comments that should be addressed. Right now there is no way to easily customize the IDE code color scheme - I have a vision problem and use a 'Chalkboard' motif using an 'almost black' grey background with bright text colors on top in 17 point text. This combination cannot be done in the IDE editor, but is standard in tRev. But I digress. Again. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2010/1/21 Damien Girard dam-pro.gir...@laposte.net Dear Revolution users, I have a little question to ask to you before filling an enhancement request. Many of you have bought the Revolution Megabundle, and so anybody that bought it have NativeDoc, and I really recommend to use it as it was made to increase code reuse and make easier the understanding of your source code. For those that have NativeDoc and do not know what this tool do: - NativeDoc is a documentation system for Runtime Revolution. It is used by Trevor Devore, and by many other users: http://www.bluemangolearning.com/revolution/docs/sql_yoga/api_docs/Documents /stack_libSQLYoga.htm http://www.dam-pro.com/nativedoc So what I wanted to ask you, do you prefer to have documentation block (and not block comment) to be displayed in italic ? The new color scheme introduced in Rev 3.0 made that all block comments are in italic, what I would have is to have block comment in italic, and NativeDoc (Doxygen/JavaDoc) block comment not displayed in italic. A Doxygen/JavaDoc block comment is one of the following: /** * Notice /** */ Or /*! * Notice /*! */ And more (see NativeDoc documentation for all supported block type). So, what do you think about that and do you prefer ? Italic or not ? Kind Regards, Damien Girard Dam-pro, France ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Little poll about Revolution script editor
and the plugin can live in the 'user' plugin area, or does it have to be installed in each version IDE? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2010/1/21 Shao Sean shaos...@wehostmacs.com Right now there is no way to easily customize the IDE code color scheme - I have a vision problem and use a 'Chalkboard' motif using an 'almost black' grey background with bright text colors on top in 17 point text. This combination cannot be done in the IDE editor, Actually the Rev engine has the ability to handle custom colour schemes and I made a small plugin to enhance the IDE to allow you create your own schemes (and seeing as they are just plain text file, you can easily share them through email with others).. http://shaosean.tk/pluginScriptColourEditor.html -Sean ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
compression AND encryption
Hello again, list friends. I know milage varies on file compression, especially that MP3s are basically already compressed and gain no advantage. Still I have a project where the client is asking for encryption AND compression. I've been pondering this. At first, I didn't think this would make any difference which came first. However, all kinds of files could be in the Que., and the client wants 'em all pushed through the process. So on encode - (reverse order on decode) 1 compression, then encryption --my guess 2 encrypting, then compression 3 no difference or downside?? thanks sqb - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: compression AND encryption
Thanks, Jerry! Think of all the power wasted encoding noisy U-Tube Video! 2010/1/21 Jerry J j...@jhj.com I agree with your guess. Most compression algorithms depend on regularities in the data, and encryption hides them. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: constant in the docs
Dictionary in the toolbar , Language:Constants - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2010/1/20 runrev260...@m-r-d.de Hi, the built in dictionary and also the online dictionary shows the following last sentence Tip: To see a list of built-in constants, open the Documentation window, click Revolution Dictionary, and choose Constants from the menu at the top of the window Does anyone know, what Documentation windows and what menu i shall open? Is this an error in the docs? Regards, Matthias ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Re-2: constant in the docs
I miss stuff all the time. you are not alone - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2010/1/20 runrev260...@m-r-d.de Stephen, Mark, thanks. Sometimes i do not see the wood for the trees. Regards, Matthias ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Geometry manager
It seems to be more stable now, as long as one locks the objects down. I've been cautiously using it on 3-5 objects. I still don't always trust it (or myself) to not blow it and I back up more often while using geometry. One can end up with a mess if not careful. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2010/1/20 J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com Is anyone using the geometry manager in commercial stacks? Do you find it reliable? I confess that I haven't experimented with it much, I've always written my own resize scripts. But I'm in a position now where I need to make several large stacks with many objects into resizeable windows, and I'm wondering if using the manager would be faster than writing all that code. Any thoughts? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Geometry manager
Isn't that kind of lame that it's offered in the IDE, but the unspoken rumor is that it doesn't work, and we're not supposed to use it, yet no-one has ever given an exact reason why? What if it has been fixed, yet the impression persists? This is one aspect of programming that I would like to not hassle with. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2010/1/20 Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net Mark- Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 11:33:26 AM, you wrote: Do not use the geometry manager in commercial projects. It'll cost you money in the end. Write your own scripts. Word. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Geometry manager
Perhaps you can offer it as a separate product? 2010/1/20 Damien Girard dam-pro.gir...@laposte.net And what I have to say, is that I re-wrote it entirely for NativeSpeak 2.0, and it is just awesome... (the ease of use + the resizing speed like if you wrote your own script + cross-platform + localizable). You will see in few months ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: shell
I got it to work by pasting the whole thing into the adr line of a browser and it filled in the appropriate URLEncoding (as browsers for some time have done) - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2010/1/20 Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net Hershel Fisch wrote: Thanks, but the link is dead. Hershel Most likely it is (as Stephen warned) a problem due to my poor choice of file name - the spaces confuse automatic link-clicking. Copy/paste the whole URL (from http: ... all the way to ... .rev) and see if that fixes it (it does for me). Sorry for the inconvenience, I'll pick better names next time. -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: FTP listing using libURLftpCommand
Thanks for responding, Dave. I get it now. Ok so I have to apply some kind of logic and recover the year.(over the threshold) - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2010/1/18 Dave Cragg dave.cr...@lacscentre.co.uk On 19 Jan 2010, at 00:45, stephen barncard wrote: Thanks...this sort of works. the example needs to use the URL keyword though put URL (ftp://user:p...@host.com/directory/;) into theListOfFiles this does list ok, similar listing to the HTTP method, however the dates in the listing are not consistent. drwxr-x--- 21 sbarncar 99 4096 Dec 31 03:03 . drwx--x--x 15 sbarncar sbarncar 4096 Jan 15 01:51 .. -rw-r--r--1 sbarncar sbarncar0 Dec 30 12:06 .htaccess drwxr-xr-x2 sbarncar sbarncar 4096 Jul 11 2009 .smileys drwxr-xr-x 12 sbarncar sbarncar 4096 Jun 20 2009 barncard drwxr-xr-x2 sbarncar sbarncar 4096 Dec 22 03:35 blasters Some directories have the year, and some just have the month and day. Is this just the way it is? The year is just not important? This is the standard FTP way. Similar to what the ls -l command returns on Unix-like systems. The year is not shown if the modification date is within the last six months. Instead the time is shown. Either way, word 9 of line x of whatever will return the name of the file. libUrl uses the LIST command internally for ftp directory listings (or NLST if you do as Jan suggested). It returns exactly what the server returns. Cheers Dave___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: FTP listing using libURLftpCommand
Josh,
That *is* funny. It's probably in my sample stack library right now. But I
will re-download in case you've updated it.
thanks.
sqb
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2010/1/19 Josh Mellicker j...@dvcreators.net
Hehe, just noticed you responded to this back in 2007:
http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2007-August/102407.html
On Jan 19, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Josh Mellicker wrote:
Stephen,
You might find this post (and the demo stack) helpful:
http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2007-August/102401.html
Cheers
Josh
On Jan 18, 2010, at 3:37 PM, stephen barncard wrote:
I'd like to use the LIST command and get a decent directory listing
using
the FTP library. Yes I know about parsing a HTML listing of a directory
and
it really is incomplete (like year information).
Currently only some of the libURL ftp commands work with the ON-REV ftp
setup, which a piece of Open Source called Pure-FTPd -
http://pureftpd.org/;
HELPreturns { 214 Pure-FTPd - http://pureftpd.org/ }
LIST / returns { 425 No data connection }
PWD returns { /}
SYSTreturns { 215 UNIX Type: L8 }
Has anyone used LIBURL successfully trying to gain control of the other
FTP
commands, especially LIST?
here's the simple code:
on mouseup
get returnAffectedFieldName()
put it into tObject
put LIST into ftpCommandLine
libURLSetFTPListCommand LIST
get libURLftpCommand(ftpCommandLine,kFTPAdr,kLogin,kPasw)
put it into fld tObject
end mouseup
We really need more examples in the docs. Or is this broken? Help,
please,
Dave Cragg.
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ON-Rev Docs (was Re: Getting user's time from web revlet?)
Sadly, ON-REV ENGINE NOTES [ LAST UPDATED 2009-06-02 BY Mark Waddingham ]
is the ONLY full reference sheet on ON-Rev. (why? have they slowed up on
development?) I was just going to re-post it.
When is Revolution going to {
1. Show some other features promised for On-Rev (like stacks and/or GETPROP
ability so we can rewrite some desktop scripts that use custom properties?
2. Print some decent, searchable, and fully complete docs on the service?
3. Make this tech available to other ISP hosts like Dreamhost?
}
then there is the additional information below that was sent out a while ago
(by email) for some new features. This info is not available anywhere online
except Nabble.
The errormode property is especially helpful.
Here's where to download the iRev clients:
-snip---
* Mac OS X: http://www.on-rev.com/templates/onrev/files/onrevosx.dmg
* Windows: http://www.on-rev.com/templates/onrev/files/onrevwindows.exe
New Features:
new errormode property which specifies how error messages are handled
inline: display errors html formatted within page output
stderr: errors are not displayed but will appear in server error logs
quiet: no error display
New $_POST_RAW variable
Fixes:
include of empty file name no longer outputs spurious characters, now
throws an appropriate error (bad filename)
engine crash when setting http headers
PATH_TRANSLATED now contains the path to the running script file when the
requested url contains extra path info after the script path
PATH_INFO contains the extra path info
-snip---
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San Francisco
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2010/1/18 Ralf Bitter ra...@dimensionb.de
Hi Mike,
you can get infos about the $_SERVER variable here:
http://samples.on-rev.com/irev-engine-notes.txt
Ralf
On 18.01.2010, at 16:55, Michael Kann wrote:
While perusing the revIngniter docs I came across the sentence:
The On-Rev server is currently not supporting the $_Server variable
HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET, so this function returns FALSE on this server.
---
Is there a list someplace of the server variables which the On-Rev server
supports? (I assume that would be the same list that you can use in your
.irev pages?)
Thanks again,
Mike
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Re: Getting user's time from web revlet?
Sadly, ON-REV ENGINE NOTES [ LAST UPDATED 2009-06-02 BY Mark Waddingham ]
is the ONLY full reference sheet on ON-Rev. I was just going to re-post it.
When is Revolution going to {
1. Show some new features promised for On-Rev?
2. Print some decent, searchable, and fully complete docs on the service?
3. Make this tech available to other ISP hosts like Dreamhost?
}
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Stephen Barncard
San Francisco
http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev
2010/1/18 Ralf Bitter ra...@dimensionb.de
Hi Mike,
you can get infos about the $_SERVER variable here:
http://samples.on-rev.com/irev-engine-notes.txt
Ralf
On 18.01.2010, at 16:55, Michael Kann wrote:
While perusing the revIngniter docs I came across the sentence:
The On-Rev server is currently not supporting the $_Server variable
HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET, so this function returns FALSE on this server.
---
Is there a list someplace of the server variables which the On-Rev server
supports? (I assume that would be the same list that you can use in your
.irev pages?)
Thanks again,
Mike
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