Re: alerts

[william humphrey]

Except it should have a progress bar.

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Peter Brigham MD  wrote:

> Here's the way I do it. I show a small display stack, the idea is just that
> it's a billboard to tell the user that the saving is occurring. It closes
> after the save is done.
>
> on doSave
>   modeless stack "savingAlert"
>   wait 10 millisecs
>   save stack "pdData"
>   set the lastSaved of stack "pdData" to the seconds
>   close stack "savingAlert"
>   go stack "pdData"
> end doSave
>
> -- Peter
>
> Peter M. Brigham
> pmb...@gmail.com
> http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2010, at 1:24 AM, Mark Smith wrote:
>
>
>> Hi Craig,
>>
>> Forget the part about not knowing when a save is done... I'm a little
>> tired
>> at the moment but did figure it out.
>>
>> I have code that says:
>>
>> on mouseUp
>>  save this stack
>> end mouseUp
>>
>> Pretty simple. But there is no visible indication to the user in my stack
>> that anything happened. So what I want to do is:
>>
>> on mouseUp
>>  -- show a dialog saying we're saving now... (sort of like what runrev
>> itself does when you do cmd-S)
>>  save this stack
>>  -- dismiss the dialog
>> end mouseUp
>>
>> BUT, the only dialogs I have found in runrev are ask or answer, both of
>> which require the user to dismiss them. How do you do an information only
>> dialog (or is it an alert?) that does not require user intervention?
>>
>> PS which reminds me, is there anyway to see how the IDE itself was
>> implemented? (i'd go look at the code for the IDE's save command). I've
>> heard or read that it is possible to do that but haven;t discovered how.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> -- Mark
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Re: standalone image problem

[william humphrey]

What if you have each image's directory location named in the "image
source"?

./myImages/imageThatCanChange.png


Does that work?

On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Devin Asay  wrote:

> Edward,
>
> The tricky thing about standalone apps on OS X is that, if you do not set
> the defaultFolder in the stack, the defaultFolder will be the folder where
> the .app bundle resides. If you do set the defaultfolder to be the folder
> where the stack resides, as John has shown in his example, when you create a
> standalone out of the stack, the defaultFolder is *inside* the .app bundle.
> See my note in the dictionary under defaultFolder for more details.
>
> Regards,
>
> Devin
>
> On Nov 6, 2010, at 4:05 AM, John Dixon wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi Edward...
> >
> > Will this work for you ?
> >
> > global gtheFolder
> >
> > on preopenstack
> >   set itemDel to "/"
> >   put item 1 to -2 of (the effective fileName of this stack) &
> "/resources" into gtheFolder
> >   set the defaultfolder to gtheFolder
> >
> >   --set the topleft of this stack to 30,30
> >   --set the defaultfolder to "resources/"
> >   set the decorations of this stack to "title,close"
> >   set the topleft of this stack to 0,0
> >   set the height of this stack to 750
> >   set the width of this stack to 1280
> >   set the loc of this stack to 640,400
> >   hide  menubar
> > end preopenstack
> >
> > on openCard
> >   global pname
> >   set the filename of image 1 to "./resources/BKG.paneling.jpg"
> >   set the filename of image 2 to "./resources/deck_animation.gif"
> >   set the currenttime of player 1 to 0
> >   set the filename of player 1 to "./resources/river1"
> >   start player 1
> > end openCard
> >
> > be well
> >
> > Dixie
> >
> >> From: etcaw...@fastmail.fm
> >> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 04:21:14 -0500
> >> To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
> >> Subject: standalone image problem
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm trying to build for both Mac OS X and windows, but I'm concentrating
> on Mac until I get it to work. I have Snow Leopard installed.The folder
> structure is ./Resources/map_animation.gif for a typical file I have
> included the open stack code and the opencard code for one of the cards. I
> also will include(attached) screen capture of the folders location . As I
> said the stack works, ie. clik on the field or button and it will go to the
> next cd, all the text files are read and shown but the images (gif & jpeg),
> audio, and one video clip do not show. Since it is showing the files it
> looks like it is finding the files in the folder but not showing them.
> >>
> >> on preopenstack
> >>   --set the topleft of this stack to 30,30
> >>   set the defaultfolder to "resources/"
> >>   set the decorations of this stack to "title,close"
> >>   set the topleft of this stack to 0,0
> >>   set the height of this stack to 750
> >>   set the width of this stack to 1280
> >>   set the loc of this stack to 640,400
> >>   hide  menubar
> >> end preopenstack
> >>
> >> on openCard
> >>   global pname
> >>   set the filename of image 1 to "resources/BKG.paneling.jpg"
> >>   set the filename of image 2 to "resources/deck_animation.gif"
> >>  set the currenttime of player 1 to 0
> >>  set the filename of player 1 to "resources/river1"
> >>  start player 1
> >> end openCard
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 5, 2010, at 11:02 AM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.comwrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Message: 2
> >>> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 11:36:39 -0600
> >>> From: Devin Asay 
> >>> Subject: Re: image files in standalone
> >>> To: How to use Revolution 
> >>> Message-ID: <3b2c6b00-1e04-4fb2-a629-d9a0f3785...@byu.edu>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:07 AM, edward cawley wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hello Edward,
> >>>
> >>> What platform are you building for? What does your folder structure
> look like? Do you set the defaultFolder in order to locate the resource
> folder?
> >>>
> >>> Devin
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Devin Asay
> >>> Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
> >>> Brigham Young University
> >>>
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Re: Building array from list

[william humphrey]

Thanks. I will experiment with both. I knew there had to be a simple way.
It's funny how so many coding solutions require lots of experience before
you can look at the solution without getting a headache.
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Building array from list

[william humphrey]

I was wondering. If you have a list:

apple,1
orange,1
grapefruit,1
tango,2
blue,3
green,3
yellow,3
zebra,9

And you want to convert it into an array:

(apple,orange,grapefruit[1])
(tango[2])
(blue,green,yellow[3])
(zebra,[9])

What would be the easiest way. I'm always a little confused by arrays but it
seems to me this should be a very simple and fast conversion. The array is
intentionally a string "apple,orange,grapefruit" that results from key [1]

Bill
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Re: Keyboards

[william humphrey]

I swear by my Kinesis keyboard. I have it mapped dvorak but it can use the
antiquated qwerty method too.

On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Colin Holgate  wrote:

>
> On Oct 23, 2010, at 2:36 AM, Peter Alcibiades wrote:
>
> > Its surreal to
> > have it be alt + 3 unmarked.  How on earth are you supposed to know that?
> > I guess you have to read the Human Interface Guidelines?
>
> The keys are marked for normal, fn, and shift already. Marking them for
> option and option/shift as well would make them look quite cluttered.
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Re: LiveCode, Legacy and . . .

[william humphrey]

Good idea. Just go back to the .rev suffix or post here the reason why
it should have a .livecode suffix. That's one of the great things
about this list and the LiveCode folks is that we have such a great
contact.

On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Richmond  wrote:
>  Created a fairly pedestrian stack in LiveCode and saved it in
> "legacy format"; resulting in a stack of unknown provenance
> with the .livecode suffix . . .
>
> . . . in changing the suffix to .rev I was able to open the stack
> with RunRev 2.2.1
>
> Livecode is doing what is often termed a "half-cock job" when
> it saves in "legacy format" ; it should, surely, provide a .rev suffix.
>
> 
>
> Of course to be completely backwards compat. it should offer other
> saving options such as:
>
> 1. 'Standard'; i.e. with the .livecode suffix
>
> 2. 'Last Month' (or somesuch) with the .rev suffix
>
> 3.  'Legacy' with both the legacy format and the .rev suffix.
>
> Mind you things might be better if a 4.5.1 version was released
> that went back to the .rev suffix.
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Re: Where can I found the Shaosean libs?

[william humphrey]

His SMTP controls look pretty cool. I hope he will release them soon.
Quite a slogan too.
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Re: The Scripter's Scrapbook (was: Online Snippets library)

[william humphrey]

I've been running into a similar problem with dropbox. I'd like to
have my Valentina databases there and I can't figure out a way to
configure the vServer to allow that.

Drop box sure is an excellent solution for back-ups and use with more
than one machine. I only worry about the company disappearing or
starting to charge for small uses or something.

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:20 PM, stephen barncard
 wrote:
> Hugh, as you know I've been needing a solution to make the same Scrapbook
> data available on all my machines and I thought I had found it with Dropbox
> (thanks Andre).
>
> But I'm having a hard time trying to find out where the data is stored, so I
> can share that file using Dropbox.
>
> I am using the standalone option as the in-IDE plugin just shows too many
> stacks in the browsers, and I use it for other kinds of code snippets.
>
> Should I just put the app itself in the dropbox?
>
>
> On 22 September 2010 13:06, FlexibleLearning 
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you all for the tributes.
>>
>> The Scripter's Scrapbook is also available in the new RunRev MarketPlace:
>> http://www.runrev.com/store/product/scripters-scrapbook-1-0-0/
>>
>> However, their new website has not yet been completed and there are no
>> download links for any products. To get a download (many different options;
>> choose the one/s you want), go to the Flexible Learning website page
>> http://www.flexiblelearning.com/ssbk.htm as Thomas suggested. Options
>> include standalone applications which are not included in the runRev
>> download (when they are re-instated) for those who wish to run ssBk outside
>> the LiveCode environment.
>>
>> The on-line repository supports a range of attribution options and I would
>> encourage you to take  2-for-1 advantage (for every two you grab, put at
>> least one up yourself). You cannot store files but you can include any
>> number of stacks, files, pdf's etc you want by including their url
>> addresses. Ken Ray's work on the cgi to drive this part has been fantasic.
>> We have also included vendor options so you can offer your work for sale if
>> you wish as well.
>>
>> The Scripter's Scrapbook is currently v5.2.19, last updated 24 June 2010 as
>> AndyP says. Updates tend to quite infrequent nowadays as not much has been
>> requested to improve.
>>
>> Hugh Senior
>> FLCo
>>
>>
>
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Re: Server Side Database Advice

[william humphrey]

I understand that hosts are careful with MySQL because the commercial
use of MySQL has such huge fees.

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 4:40 PM, stephen barncard
 wrote:
> Change hosts or use a cgi interface, not a direct connection.
>
> On 16 September 2010 13:32, Warren Kuhl  wrote:
>
>> I am developing software that needs to pass information to a centralized
>> MySQL database.  My current host started blocking connections as they said
>> the MySQL database was for web applications only and had an issue with
>> updating it with an application.  Plus they only allowed a few concurrent
>> connections.
>>
>> Anyone have any advice as to how I should handle this or experience with a
>> host that didn't have any issues with this?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Warren
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Re: SQLite Database

[william humphrey]

Valentina offers encryption and for a great deal less than $2000. It's
also a much more robust and faster database with lots more to offer.
The latest Valentina Studio application offers ways to convert SQLite
to Valentina also.

On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Warren Kuhl  wrote:
> Monte,
>
> I thanks for the advice.  $2000 is a little steep.  I may loook at
> writing an encryption/decrypt module for my data and decrpyt it after
> retrieving it from the database.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Warren
>
> On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 2:58 AM, Monte Goulding
>  wrote:
>> Not without writing a new db driver I wouldn't think. From memory there is 
>> an encrypted version of sqlite with a $2000 license fee. If you don't need 
>> it to be ultra secure then you could store your db in a custom property of 
>> an encrypted stack and save it to a hidden file at startup, save it back to 
>> your encrypted stack at shutdown and delete the hidden file. Anyone that 
>> knows it's a rev stack could open the file in rev, copy out the db file and 
>> see your data though.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Monte
>> On 04/09/2010, at 3:56 PM, Warren Kuhl wrote:
>>
>>> Is there anyway to encrypt a SQLite database that I can use in
>>> Revolution Studio?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any suggestions!
>>> Warren
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Re: drawer stack

[william humphrey]

Thanks. Setting the default stack solved the problem. Without doing
that first it didn't do anything.

I like the drawer stack effect a lot.  I also think the dictionary is
pretty important and should be updated and consideration should be
made for the percentage of windows and Mac OS X users compared to the
OS 9 and OS 8 users which it is nice that they are supported but I
can't believe there are that many.

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Klaus on-rev  wrote:
> set the defaultstack to "Clients"
> drawer stack "consignees" at right aligned to top



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Re: drawer stack

[william humphrey]

I will avoid the drawer. Thanks for the advice. I was just fooling
around. I do think that "ALL" the dictionary notes should be changed
to say "MAC OS 9" or "MAC OS X" and not just MAC OS as that is very
confusing. Maybe I'll take all the controls on my stack and make it a
group or something so that I can make it look like a drawer. I'd like
to not pre-clude cross platform behavior.
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Re: drawer stack

[william humphrey]

I did this: "drawer stack "consignees" at right of stack "Clients"
aligned to top"

but you can go stack "consignees" or open stack consignees and that
works. Funny that RunRev has to still be compatible with Mac OS 9. I
wonder how much of an advantage that is?

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Klaus on-rev  wrote:
> Hi William,
>
>> I was just trying to open a drawer stack on my mac OS 10.6.4 system
>> and noticed it did nothing at all (stack doesn't even open when using
>> the drawer command) and then I read this in the dictionary:
>> 
>> Cross-platform note:  On Mac OS, Unix, and Windows systems, drawers
>> are not supported, so the drawer command opens the stack as a palette
>> instead. The palette uses the current rectangle of the stack and does
>> not resize or move it.
>> 
>>
>> So I'm wondering... what system are the folks at RunRev talking about
>> where drawers do work? Perhaps RunRev works on BeOs?
>
> :-)
>
> MacOS <> MacOS X!
> MacOS = everything <= OS 9!
>
> But drawers DO work on OS X!
> Just tested and worked fine.
>
> Could you post your script to open a drawer?
> Maybe a typo in the syntax or whatever...
>
>
> Best
>
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drawer stack

[william humphrey]

I was just trying to open a drawer stack on my mac OS 10.6.4 system
and noticed it did nothing at all (stack doesn't even open when using
the drawer command) and then I read this in the dictionary:

Cross-platform note:  On Mac OS, Unix, and Windows systems, drawers
are not supported, so the drawer command opens the stack as a palette
instead. The palette uses the current rectangle of the stack and does
not resize or move it.


So I'm wondering... what system are the folks at RunRev talking about
where drawers do work? Perhaps RunRev works on BeOs?
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Re: MacBook core i7 : a real powerfull laptop or a sadly build toy ?

[william humphrey]

Solid state drive makes a lot of sense with several conventional
back-up drives for all your data and you just throw away the back-up
drives when they fail.

>> I have a 15" i7 MacBook Pro with a solid state drive
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Re: MacBook core i7 : a real powerfull laptop or a sadly build toy ?

[william humphrey]

I run my laptop 24/7 - it's a macbook pro. I think the hardware that I
run 24/7 tends to work longer than the machines I let sit idle (but I
live in the rainforest so the electronics in probably gets corroded).
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Re: ListMagic question LMListEdited

[william humphrey]

Hey Jim

That would be great I'll send it. I'm so sorry that I thought you had
stopped supplying support and it's great to hear that I was mistaken
as listMagic deserves the best.
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Re: ListMagic question LMListEdited

[william humphrey]

Hi

I am using ListMagic also and have found no answers to my support
questions. It is important to know that ListMagic is not compatible
with tRev (you cannot quit out of a stack using tRev that has
listMagic without runrev freezing with the window open on the "locked
script" of listmagic's stack).

I'm trying to convert all my listmagic fields to DataGrids to avoid
that although it would be simpler to use listMagic if only support
questions were answered or if it wasn't locked.

It is hard to do what you are trying to do with listmagic also because
it's DARN stack is locked. I think the lesson is to never include any
third party anything in any project that is a locked stack. At least
that is the lesson I've learned.

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:25 AM, J Scott Saults  wrote:
> Direct support requests to ListMagic have not been answered. Is it still
> supported? Maybe somebody here can help.
>
> I'm trying to use  LMListEdited to selectively prevent changes in a list
> widget, . I've edited the card script to include:
>
> ON LMListEdited pWidget,pItem,pLineNo,pOldValue,pNewValue
>   DisplayPrompt "LMListEdited - item" && pItem && "of line" && pLineNo &&
> "-" && pOldValue && ">" && pNewValue
>   set itemDel to tab
>   put pOldValue into item pItem of line pLineNo of pWidget
>
> Now I expect that last line to replace ANY entry that's changed; if that
> worked, I'd add conditionals. However, it only occasionally works. Exactly
> what events should trigger the LMtListEdited handler - tab, return, enter?
> Changing the item and clicking elsewhere in the field usually seems to work
> (that is, the change is undone, pOldValue replaces pNewValue). How do I get
> other edits intercepted? A user might not click, but press tab or enter
> instead.
>
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Re: garbage collection

[william humphrey]

Phil

I've been using a fairly complex system of stacks for years now in
RunRev and never heard of or felt a need for freeing up memory. It
seems to me it allocates a certain amount on start-up and stays that
way through out. Of course all my data is stored separately in an
external database (valentina).

Bill

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Phil Davis  wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Almost a year ago I posted the following with no response, and now the need
> to know has come up again:
>>
>> In ancient times I used the hasMemory() function to force garbage
>> collection and free up memory. But maybe it only worked that way in
>> SuperCard... can anyone comment on its effectiveness in Revolution?
>
> Any takers?
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Re: Script Reporter v1.1 crashes

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Andrew

How is your work on this project going? Did you decide to re-do it all
with SQLyoga and Framework? Are you using Valentina as the database?


> My program was nearing completion and suddenly I couldn't track down a
> localhost DB connection my application was trying to make that didn't exist
> anymore (from before I started using SQL Yoga).
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

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Thanks. That plug-in will always be useful. How hard is it to turn into a
tRev plug in?
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

[william humphrey]

Thanks (I started to say Stephen but I see I should say) "everyone" -- I
found my orphan put using

put yourScript into someVariable
filter someVariable with "put*"
filter someVariable without "*into*"

Except that you have to say

filter someVariable with "*put*" for it to work as there must be a space or
something before the word put

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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

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Just went to the tRev site. There are some plug-ins there (ones that put
lists of cards, scripts etc into an email message) but no "find orphan puts"
plug-in
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

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I really like the idea of there being a plug-in for tRev that "finds
orphaned puts"

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 1:43 PM, stephen barncard <
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> collect the line numbers on the first pass, they ya gotta count backwards
> if
> you delete lines, Mark. Repeat for each won't work unless the entire script
> is rebuilt.
>
> Do we need a  "backwards offset"??
>
> On 15 May 2010 10:33, Mark Wieder  wrote:
>
> > Scott-
> >
> > Saturday, May 15, 2010, 9:58:47 AM, you wrote:
> >
> > > The other thing to do is to make sure the line has no "into".
> >
> > ...as in (untested, but you get the idea)
> >
> > put yourScript into someVariable
> > filter someVariable with "put*"
> > filter someVariable without "*into*"
> >
> > repeat for each line tLine in someVariable
> >  put lineOffset(tLine, yourScript) into tPos
> >  if tPos is not 0 then
> >delete line tPos of yourScript
> >  end if
> > end repeat
> >
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

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I'm not sure it has only two words. I will try your suggestion though. It
could be "put variable1 && variable2"
It sure teaches me to never do this again. Always explicitly call the
message box. I wish RunRev would remove the feature...

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:

> Try putting the script in variable, and then finding the lineOffset of the
> line that contains "put" and has only 2 words.
>
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> Tactile Media, UX Design
>
> On May 15, 2010, at 8:53 AM, william humphrey 
> wrote:
>
> > Jerry
> >
> > I'm asking this question on the RunRev forum because I want to announce
> here
> > how much I love tRev. Anyway how do you search for a "put" that is like
> >
> > "put variable"
> >
> > and doesn't have an "into" so it opens the message box. I realize that I
> > should have marked my code there or put message box because it is so hard
> to
> > find a "put" that doesn't have an "into"
> >
> > Thanks
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searching for a put that opens message box

[william humphrey]

Jerry

I'm asking this question on the RunRev forum because I want to announce here
how much I love tRev. Anyway how do you search for a "put" that is like

"put variable"

and doesn't have an "into" so it opens the message box. I realize that I
should have marked my code there or put message box because it is so hard to
find a "put" that doesn't have an "into"

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Re: New version of RunRev makes .png images all black

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I'm used to posting to the correct lists for Valentina and using the bug
reporting tool "Mantis" for reporting things. But RunRev has changed the bug
reporting to some new way which I don't know where is. I also tried a couple
of times to get on the improv list but it never happened.

I would like to report the problems in the correct place.

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 9:55 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

> william humphrey wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the heads up Richmond. I don't remember signing any NDA though.
>> I'm running on Mac OS and have just converted the png's to jpg's which
>> work
>> with the same resolution but without the all black effect which was
>> useless.
>> Pain to convert everything to jpg's though.
>>
>
> If you're on the Improve list, the intro email you received explains the
> NDA status of anything posted to that list. I think most people already know
> that the next version is in progress, but technically we should discuss it
> over there.
>
> That said, it's pre-release software and those who use it can expect some
> bugs. The reason to release it to a limited audience is so that the bugs can
> be reported and fixed before the version goes final. Images shouldn't turn
> black (that's an alpha glitch which could be due either to Rev or to the
> format of your image) so I hope you'll report it. That way the team is
> alerted and can check it.
>
> They don't recommend using pre-release builds for any "real" work. Stick
> with the release version for that stuff.
>
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Re: New version of RunRev makes .png images all black

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Thanks for the heads up Richmond. I don't remember signing any NDA though.
I'm running on Mac OS and have just converted the png's to jpg's which work
with the same resolution but without the all black effect which was useless.
Pain to convert everything to jpg's though.

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Richmond Mathewson <
richmondmathew...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  On 27/04/2010 20:04, william humphrey wrote:
>
>> Has anyone using new RunRev build 4.5.0 dp 3 noticed that .png images
>> display all black now? I have to go through and convert every one to gif
>> to
>> get them to display correctly.
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Re: New version of RunRev makes .png images all black

[william humphrey]

And I'm noticing that the .gif are not anywhere near as nice as the smooth
.png images.

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:04 PM, william humphrey <
b...@bluewatermaritime.com> wrote:

> Has anyone using new RunRev build 4.5.0 dp 3 noticed that .png images
> display all black now? I have to go through and convert every one to gif to
> get them to display correctly.




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New version of RunRev makes .png images all black

[william humphrey]

Has anyone using new RunRev build 4.5.0 dp 3 noticed that .png images
display all black now? I have to go through and convert every one to gif to
get them to display correctly.
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Re: Paris

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Hey - that's something which will not run on Mac OS. You should include a
warning - danger "Window's only website",

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 5:34 AM, René Micout wrote:

> Just for the fun, no relation with RunRev :
> http://www.paris-26-gigapixels.com/HDView/index-fr.php
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Re: Coming back to revTalk after ObjectiveC

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I would think it would be the other way around. That's interesting. What if
it had been Pascual? That was supposed to make programmers write clearer
code.

On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:

> After spending the last nine months teaching myself enough Objective C to
> write some applications for the iPhone and iPad I have noticed some problems
> coming 'back' to revTalk...
>
> I submitted the first of my iPhone apps to the app store and am waiting for
> approval. So, while waiting I started two projects, one in Objective C and
> the other in revTalk. Anyway, I am noticing a few problems. First off, all
> of my method names, variable names and parameter names are really really
> long. They are like four or five words long and way too descriptive. Then,
> all of my methods are way too modular. I tried to follow some code I wrote
> and was lost all over the place. I spent a couple hours cleaning up my code
> and spent most of that time compressing separate methods into fewer cleaner
> methods. It seems that in an environment like Rev where a lot of the
> constraints you can find in Objective C aren't there that the bloated-ness
> of these types of things is more obvious. I compared my code to some I wrote
> last year and my code from now just looks 'thicker', 'longer', 'bulkier' and
> I don't think it looks as good as that which I wrote last year.
>
> Interesting,
>
> Tom McGrath III
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>
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Re: Andre's house - was DVD set (somewhat OT ) - completely off topic

[william humphrey]

Andre

It is always between 72 and 85 degrees F up here in the rainforest. But the
humidity is often 100%.
I have to store all data on hard drives (music CD's and movie DVD's don't
last) and keep them warm. Not complaining.  I love it here. Anytime you want
to come to our bed and breakfast and stay for free you are welcome (
http://www.rainforestinn.com ). That invitation is, of course, open to all
you other RunRev programmers who have many magnitudes of ability greater
than I.

Bill
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Andre Garzia  wrote:

> Willian,
>
> You win the best location award, it must be marvelous to live among
> the nature like that. I hope it is colder than the 120F or 49C that
> we're having here... Rio is melting.
>
>
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Re: Andre's house - was DVD set (somewhat OT ) - completely off topic

[william humphrey]

OK Andre this is my place (it also doesn't snow here):

http://bit.ly/bXygOc

Google maps also has it wrong. It doesn't come up in a search by name and
there isn't any address at all. The Navteq people who collected the google
map data even stayed with us and it still isn't right so what can you do? I
think that google stopped using the Navteq data or something and it is
affecting their maps.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Paul Looney  wrote:

> Andre,
> Sitting here in my office in San Dimas, California, I can see your house
> quite clearly - even the purple tag.
> We live in an amazing age!
> Paul Looney
>
> On Feb 5, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:
>
>  ...
>> In case anyone is wondering where I live or how Brazil actually looks
>> like,
>> go to
>>
>> http://bit.ly/aOqkjj
>>
>> In the center there's a soccer camp, and a tennis court, my house is
>> directly in front of the tennis court, you can even see my pool. I put a
>> little purple direction thing on top of my house but I don't know if it
>> will
>> stick.
>>
>> And of course, google maps gets the address wrong, the address there is
>> completelly wrong, I don't live in Jacaré or that street, that address is
>> more than 4 KM away from my place. Silly broken geolocation.
>>
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Re: SQL/MySQL Database Question

[william humphrey]

Did you try running your query in a SQL utility first?

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Warren Kuhl  wrote:

> I am trying to get the number of records that exist in 1 tables that do not
> exist in another table.  Looking online, I saw an example of a
> SELECTWHERE NOT EXISTS.
>
> I have a two questions:
>
> 1) Does RR handle the scenario below?  For some reason I am getting a
> error around the "not exists (select * from" when I try to run this.
>
> 2) Is there a better way to do this?
>
> put revQueryDatabase (gConID, "SELECT Brand_URL, Product_URL, Product_Name,
> Product_UOM, Product_Retail, Product_Price, Product_Image,
> Product_Description, from products where not exists (select * from
> z-products where brand_url = z_brand_url and brand_name = z_brand_name and
> product_url = z_product_url and product_name = z_product_name and
> product_uom = z_product_uom)") into tNotExists
>
> put revNumberofRecords(tNotExists) into vRecNo
>
> Thanks for any help!
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Re: SQL Yoga 1.0.1 Update and New Plugin

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Thanks for this new plug in. I love the improvement in the IDE!
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Re: valentina, externals of libdatabase

[william humphrey]

I used to use Trevor's libdatabase with SQLite but now I use valentina with
the Valentina API. It really makes sense and is not that difficult to put in
place.
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Re: Re : Crappy website

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I had to look. The new website is pretty ugly. Maybe if you at least toned
things down to light colors and use black for the lettering?
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Re: driven mad by the message box!

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He must be running Linux.
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Re: Newbie Data Grid question

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I noticed that the column headings aren't automatically set when you load
the datagrid with data. I manually set the column names and then when I
loaded the data in (using a different method with ) I put in the column
headings exactly as I had manually named them. It turned out that later,
when taking data out of the datagrid, I did it using those column headings.

I was surprised that when you load the data grid it doesn't change the
column headings. But it works perfectly otherwise.

On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 2:53 PM, James Hurley wrote:

> I am just getting into data grid fields and can't find first base.
>
> I can't find anything on data grids  in the Dictionary. Is this coming?
>
> Following the tutorial I tried the following:
>
> put field "data" into tData
> --This is a tab delimited text field with the first line being the column
> names
>  put true into pFirstLineContainsHeaders
>  set the dgText [ pFirstLineContainsHeaders ] of group "DataGrid 2" to
> tData
>
> This does nothing.
>
> But if I put False into pFirstLineContainsHeaders the field is filled with
> tData but the columns are Col 1, Col 2, etc.
>
> What am I missing?
>
>
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Re: does anyone have experience printing PDFs from Rev @ full resolution?

[william humphrey]

yes.  The high resolution png files print nicely when they are on a card.

On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Josh Mellicker  wrote:

> Can you then print that PNG @ 300 dpi?
>
> On Dec 8, 2009, at 5:03 AM, william humphrey wrote:
>
> > I don't even know how to embed a PDF in a RunRev card. I always open the
> PDF
> > in photoshop first and save it as a .png which has 300 dot per inch
> > resolution (or less) and then put that image in the card which I want to
> > print.
>
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Another Datagrid question

[william humphrey]

How do you do a returninfield? It doesn't work if you put it in the group
script. I want to return one of the cells in the selected line of a
dataGroup when the return key is hit.
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Re: Trapping the Command key combination which already has use like "Command N"

[william humphrey]

Then it would have to be in the card script of every card where it is likely
to be used?

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Mark Wieder  wrote:

> william-
>
> Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 11:37:20 AM, you wrote:
>
> > I have a trap in the background script of my main stack which makes a
> > special new card like process (but not the one in the I.D.E.) when
> someone
> > types "Command N". This works when I'm in that stack and mysteriously
> works
> > in the substacks usually but occasionally I get a new card instead of the
> > special routine it is supposed to do.
>
> If you want to trap keys reliably you probably want this in a
> frontscript rather than a backscript.
>
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Re: Trapping the Command key combination which already has use like "Command N"

[william humphrey]

On a related matter (related to my scripts failing). How can you make the
name of a stack be permanent?  My scripts depend on the stack name not
changing and sometimes random command key combinations cause the stacks to
change name.

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:37 PM, william humphrey  wrote:

> I have a trap in the background script of my main stack which makes a
> special new card like process (but not the one in the I.D.E.) when someone
> types "Command N". This works when I'm in that stack and mysteriously works
> in the substacks usually but occasionally I get a new card instead of the
> special routine it is supposed to do.
>
> Is there something I'm doing wrong? Should I have the special "Command N"
> command in the script of every single card or in the background of every
> single substack? Should I have some kind of "pass the command key when it is
> command n" thing in the script?
>
> Thanks.
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Trapping the Command key combination which already has use like "Command N"

[william humphrey]

I have a trap in the background script of my main stack which makes a
special new card like process (but not the one in the I.D.E.) when someone
types "Command N". This works when I'm in that stack and mysteriously works
in the substacks usually but occasionally I get a new card instead of the
special routine it is supposed to do.

Is there something I'm doing wrong? Should I have the special "Command N"
command in the script of every single card or in the background of every
single substack? Should I have some kind of "pass the command key when it is
command n" thing in the script?

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Re: does anyone have experience printing PDFs from Rev @ full resolution?

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I don't even know how to embed a PDF in a RunRev card. I always open the PDF
in photoshop first and save it as a .png which has 300 dot per inch
resolution (or less) and then put that image in the card which I want to
print.
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Re: problem with sending functions to other cards over riding message path

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I found out later that there was/still is a problem with this particular
stack as I couldn't duplicate dataGrid's lack of cooperation when I did it
with another stack and substack.
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Re: 2 Datagrid questions

[william humphrey]

Richard

I just used your stack to test putting data into another stack from a
substack and it worked perfectly. So thanks for that. Now I know that there
is something seriously screwy with my stack project.

Oh well.

Bill

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Richmond Mathewson <
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> On 12/6/09 10:53 PM, Éric Miclo wrote:
>
>> Hello Richmond,
>>
>> Well, I was not precise enough.
>> I wanted to know if there is a "direct" function to extract a column's
>> data without having to use a repeat loop.
>> I'm not sure I understand right what's in DataGrid's doc pages 65-66.
>> Thanks for your time and proposition.
>>
>>
>>
>
> I am not sure whether that is possible.
>
> When I popped together the EXTRACTOR stack I expected to have a script of
> this sort:
>
> put column "VEGETABLES" of dataGrid "FOOD" into fld "VEGGIES"
>
> or
>
> put the lines of column "VEGETABLES" of dataGrid "FOOD" into the lines of
> fld "VEGGIES"
>
> but that was because I have paid almost no attention to datagrids (more
> fool me)
> and did not realise that they are not really objects in the sense that
> fields are, but are
> composite creatures, and their components have to be addressed rather than
> the
> dataGrid as a whole.
>
> The thing that shocked me was that on looking at the Preferences palette
> for my
> dataGrid I saw it called a 'group' . . . and things went badly downhill
> from there.
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Re: problem with sending functions to other cards over riding message path

[william humphrey]

>
> I solved this problem by using globals as I couldn't get the parameter to
>> pass any way I tried. It's a good thing that RunRev has so many different
>> ways you can do the same thing.
>>
>
The one thing I did conclude is that you can't load the dgData into a
DataGrid that is in another stack.



>
>> william humphrey-2 wrote:
>> >
>> > and that you can only set the dgData of a DataGrid if the script is in
>> the
>> > background of the same stack or in the card so I'm doing that but I need
>> > to
>> > send parameters form another stack to that stack where the DataGrid is
>> and
>> > the message path is driving me crazy!
>> >
>>
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Re: problem with sending functions to other cards over riding message path

[william humphrey]

It is Enterprise. DataGrid works fine if the functions are all in the script
on the same stack or card. It is only that I am trying to fill a dataGrid
that is in another stack.

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote:

>
> Hi William,
>
> Are you using a) RevMedia or b) RevStudio/RevEnterprise?
>
> I believe, (but i will like to prove wrong) that DataGrids
> only work with RevStudio/RevEnterprise.
>
>
> william humphrey-2 wrote:
> >
> > and that you can only set the dgData of a DataGrid if the script is in
> the
> > background of the same stack or in the card so I'm doing that but I need
> > to
> > send parameters form another stack to that stack where the DataGrid is
> and
> > the message path is driving me crazy!
> >
>
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problem with sending functions to other cards over riding message path

[william humphrey]

If you do this in the background script of one stack:

   *put* "anytext" into tDataHolder



   *get* value("PutMyData(tDataHolder)", card "consignee_card" of stack
"Consignees" of stack "clients")


and in the card "consignee_card" of another stack -- there is this:


*function* PutMyData pDataHolder

   *put* pDataHolder into fld test

*end* PutMyData

The result will  be "pDataHolder" in the fld "test" because something in the
"get value" is wrecking the "tDataHolder" variable.

Can anyone help. I need to do this because I'm using a DataGrid and I found
out that you can't

*set* the dgData of *group* "g_theConsigneeList" of card "consignee_card" of
 stack "Consignees" of stack "clients" to theDataArray

and that you can only set the dgData of a DataGrid if the script is in the
background of the same stack or in the card so I'm doing that but I need to
send parameters form another stack to that stack where the DataGrid is and
the message path is driving me crazy!

Thanks for your help.
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Re: SOAP Library - More

[william humphrey]

Please re-post it. Sounds usefull.
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Re: Was: openstack or preopenstack confusing... Now "User Contributed Notes" for RunRev Dictionary

[william humphrey]

But if you put the closeStack in the background script of the main stack
then you're back to the original problem. It gets called when you close one
of the substacks.

I notice it is working OK but it may be because that first card is always
open when the program is open (it's the central part of the interface) but
your comment makes me worry about the functionality of closeStack for other
users.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Robert Brenstein  wrote:

> On 09.11.09 at 12:48 -0400 william humphrey apparently wrote:
>
>> Thanks for everyone's replies about openstack message confusion. Putting
>> the
>> openstack (as well as closestack) items in the first card of the mainstack
>> solves everything and I think it is  something I used to know along with a
>> myriad of other knowledge my gradually dying brain cells once contained.
>> But
>> now the information is in this great searchable resource.
>>
>
> Warning: putting closestack on the first card may not always work as
> expected -- that handler won't get called if the stack is closed while user
> displays a non-first card. In other words, a multi-card stack should have
> closestack on the stack level unless its functionality pertains only to the
> first card.
>
> Robert
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Was: openstack or preopenstack confusing... Now "User Contributed Notes" for RunRev Dictionary

[william humphrey]

Thanks for everyone's replies about openstack message confusion. Putting the
openstack (as well as closestack) items in the first card of the mainstack
solves everything and I think it is  something I used to know along with a
myriad of other knowledge my gradually dying brain cells once contained. But
now the information is in this great searchable resource.

Speaking of information for users that come later.  I just registered for
"User contributed notes" and I will put the information there about putting
these messages in the first card. I will also suggest a referral to the
"onstartup" message but that looks a little specialized. The Revolution
Dictionary could become greatly more usable as we add these kind of notes.
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openstack or preopenstack confusing to new application builders

[william humphrey]

I am posting this just for other newbies out there who may find this
confusing. If you have a mainstack and lots of substacks and you put either
a preopenstack or an openstack in the mainstack you would think that it
would only be called when you first open your stack. Not true. It is called
every time you switch to any of the other substacks of your main stack. I
have solved this by using GLX framework and the special on
glxapp_initializeApplication
which does what I thought pre-openstack should do. It runs just once when
you first open your stack (or application) and then it is never called
again. I have no idea how to do this with RunRev normally. For example when
I initialize my database I've found that it is a bad idea to do it in either
peropenstack or openstack as it gets called again and again when you switch
to other substacks and back again. I found that really confusing and just
put my openstack stuff in a button that I could push when the stack first
opened.

So if you are using glx framework then you solve it with
glxapp_initializeApplication
-- I don't know any other way to solve that confusing problem but I hope
someone will put in the trick (maybe you check to see if the stack is among
the lines of the open stack and exit or something like that).
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Re: Solution for opening problems on Mac with Snow Leopard

[william humphrey]

Reminds me of the Hypercard days... Can't upgrade my computer now.

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Sandra HARGROVE wrote:

> Hi,
> This is how you solve the opening problems with Revolution on Macs using
> Snow Leopard.
> 1)  Go back to the original Snow Leopard System application disk and load
> the program called "Rossetta".  In the new Mac version it is included
> separately on the disk.
> 2)  Once it is loaded, select your Rev. application in the Finder but don't
> open it.  Go up to the Mac finder menu bar and select "Get Info" under the
> File Menu.
> 3)  In the window that pops up, if the "General" is not opened, open it.
>  Go down the window until you find a box with the name "Open with Rossetta".
>  Check it.  Close the window.
> 4)  Open Rev. and it should perform the way you expect it to.
>
> It is that simple.  Now, whether or not this will work with the stand-alone
> applications, you may create, I don't know.  I just know it works for all of
> the stacks I make for use on this computer.   Perhaps those of you who
> create such stand-alones can use this information to insure that they will
> open on computers using Snow Leopard.
>
> Enjoy,
> Sandy Hargrove
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Re: Solution for opening problems on Mac with Snow Leopard

[william humphrey]

How long will it be before RunRev works with Snow Leopard without needing
Rosetta (like other major programs)?

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Sandra HARGROVE wrote:

> Hi,
> This is how you solve the opening problems with Revolution on Macs using
> Snow Leopard.
> 1)  Go back to the original Snow Leopard System application disk and load
> the program called "Rossetta".  In the new Mac version it is included
> separately on the disk.
> 2)  Once it is loaded, select your Rev. application in the Finder but don't
> open it.  Go up to the Mac finder menu bar and select "Get Info" under the
> File Menu.
> 3)  In the window that pops up, if the "General" is not opened, open it.
>  Go down the window until you find a box with the name "Open with Rossetta".
>  Check it.  Close the window.
> 4)  Open Rev. and it should perform the way you expect it to.
>
> It is that simple.  Now, whether or not this will work with the stand-alone
> applications, you may create, I don't know.  I just know it works for all of
> the stacks I make for use on this computer.   Perhaps those of you who
> create such stand-alones can use this information to insure that they will
> open on computers using Snow Leopard.
>
> Enjoy,
> Sandy Hargrove
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Re: GLX APP framework - amazing

[william humphrey]

I'm also fairly excited about the auto-updates feature as I'd love my final
product to be one of those that you just "check for latest version" and it
comes in automatically.
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GLX APP framework - amazing

[william humphrey]

I just finished the first tutorial for SQLYoga.
http://www.bluemangolearning.com/revolution/software/libraries/sql-yoga/  It
involves making a simple ToDo Ap and it also incidentally uses GLX APP
framework. The last step of the process was "Test the Standalone Version"
and I assumed that I was going to finally learn how to do all the
complicated processes I've read about here that are necessary to create a
standalone for windoz and Mac OS with a database. I have been using RunRev
for over five years now and have several applications running my business
but have never made a standalone and always work inside of RunRev. It is
kind of nice doing it that way as I can make changes all the time but I had
been putting off creating a standalone (especially as the database my
applications calls is very large and complicated) but I had no idea how easy
and transparent and did I say easy the process is with GLX APP framework.
The standalone is there all along every time you save it is updated and
ready to use. I find this absolutely AMAZING and any of you on the list who
like me haven't yet started using GLX APP framework should by all means
check it out.
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Newbie question - Using multi-line message box

[william humphrey]

When you're using a mac-laptop the enter key is a combination enter key and
returnkey. So if you want to run a multi-line script you have to hold the
function key down on the mac laptop keyboard and hit the return key for it
to be an enter key. I spent ten minutes or so trying to find another way to
do this (there usually is another way) but could not find a button or
anything in the RunRev IDE that would run a multi-line script if you don't
have an enter key.
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Re: Help with Valentina

[william humphrey]

Hi
This was answered on the Valentina forum. In case anyone is wondering - it
turns out the SSL error was caused by two missing ".pem" files

Bill


On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 4:04 PM, william humphrey <
b...@bluewatermaritime.com> wrote:

> I'm using Valentina office server and I get this error:
> 15:44:42.871585 (2691630880): SSL PRIVATE KEY OR CERTIFICATE ERROR
> 15:44:42.871674 (2691630880): Server terminated
>
> Does anyone have an idea what that might mean?
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Help with Valentina

[william humphrey]

I'm using Valentina office server and I get this error:
15:44:42.871585 (2691630880): SSL PRIVATE KEY OR CERTIFICATE ERROR
15:44:42.871674 (2691630880): Server terminated

Does anyone have an idea what that might mean?
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Re: odd number and even numbers

[william humphrey]

That's even better. Thanks. Never heard of step.

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Colin Holgate  wrote:

> Another approach is to use Step in your repeat loop. See this:
>
> on test
>   repeat with a = 1 to 10 step 2
>  put return & a*3 after msg
>  put return & sqrt(a+1) after msg
>   end repeat
> end test
>
> For odd numbers a*3 will be put, and for even numbers the square root of
> the number will be put. Doing it that way involves no if statements, and no
> function calls.
>
>
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Re: odd number and even numbers

[william humphrey]

Thanks. That was so quick and I will use it right now.

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Mark Schonewille <
m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote:

> Hi William,
>
> Here's one of many possibilities:
>
> function even theNr
>  return (trunc(theNr/2)*2 is theNr)
> end even
>
> function odd theNr
>  return not even(theNr)
> end odd
>
> Actually, believe mine is a bit clumsy, but ut works.
>
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>
> On 17 aug 2009, at 21:37, william humphrey wrote:
>
>  Don't kick me but what is the simple way to tell in a repeat function
>> x = 1 to total number
>> put x and x + 1
>> when x is even do this
>> or when x is odd do this
>>
>>
>> ??
>>
>> I started using mod and all kinds of weird math and I know there must be a
>> simple way.
>>
>
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odd number and even numbers

[william humphrey]

Don't kick me but what is the simple way to tell in a repeat function
x = 1 to total number
put x and x + 1
when x is even do this
or when x is odd do this


??

I started using mod and all kinds of weird math and I know there must be a
simple way.
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Re: [ANN] SQL Yoga: A Flexible Database Library for Revolution

[william humphrey]

Great. I want to test Valentina on a stack I used your old database library
for with SQLite and which needs to be converted to Valentina. Sounds like
fun!

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote:

> On Aug 17, 2009, at 3:17 PM, william humphrey wrote:
>
>  Will it also work with Valentina?
>>
>
> Before release, yes.  I have all of the Valentina code for connections,
> etc. included but I have yet to add Valentina to the Unit Testing stack.
>
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Re: [ANN] SQL Yoga: A Flexible Database Library for Revolution

[william humphrey]

Hi
Will it also work with Valentina?

Bill

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote:

> On Aug 17, 2009, at 2:20 PM, viktoras d. wrote:
>
>  sorry for impatience, is it anything like "visual query builder" tool? :-)
>>
>
> I'm not familiar with "visual query builder" but there are features the
> will build queries for you. There are no visual components to SQL Yoga
> though, it is a library.
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Re: OT: ListMagic - No support anymore?

[william humphrey]

ListMagic is a lot easier to use than the DataGrid though...

On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Bernard Devlin  wrote:

> Several weeks ago I also sent questions to the address Jim uses on
> this list, and to supp...@sosmartsoftware.  After getting no replies,
> I started to investigate the new DataGrid and found it would do what I
> wanted.
>
> Bernard
>
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 8:02 PM,  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > does someone know, if ListMagic is still supported by Jim Bufalini?
> >
> > I sent a support request ( on 23rd June and a reminder on 4th July) and
> did not get a reply to it yet.
> >
> > Did i miss something?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Matthias
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Re: about the new logo...

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I'm glad they're going with "runrev" as it is such a nice unique web search
term.
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Re: Standalone problems

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I've never made a stand alone but one would hope that you get to choose the
name and that it doesn't have to be the same as the name of your stack or
one of your substacks.

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Burrton Woodruff  wrote:

> Folks,
>
> I'm having two problems with creating standalones.
>
> 1. For Mac OS X the name of the created standalone is partially doubled:
> Should be "Magnitude Estimation" and is "Magnitude Estimation Estimation
> Task". I've tried leaving the name blank (the standalone cannot be saved)
> and selecting all, deleting and entering again. From the same build, the
> Windows standalone has the correct name.
>
> 2. For Mac OS X using a custom icon works sometimes and not other times. I
> haven't been able to figure out why sometimes the custom icon appears and
> other times does not. I'm unclear as to whether the Windows build shares the
> problem. I use boot camp and don't always go though the reboot to check the
> Windows standalone and then reboot into Mac OS.
>
> Any thoughts would be much appreciated.
>
> Burt Woodruff
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Re: OT: MySQL Open/Close question

[william humphrey]

I used to use MySQL but now I use Valentina and find an incredible
difference in speed. Perhaps you should consider running some tests with
Valentina too?

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 2:33 PM, stephen barncard <
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com> wrote:

> I've been both working with MySQL and on this list for some time but never
> asked about this:
> How much overhead is involved with opening and closing a MySQL connection?
>  Before I run some benchmarks I'd like to get other opinions.
>
> For instance, in an app I have a recursive handler than may make upwards of
> 66 queries in rapid succession. Each query depends on the previous query
> for
> the next. I want to see this information returned as soon as possible.
>
> At this time I just try to keep the connection open with a ping every few
> minutes. This works well on my machine, but working with a MySQL server on
> the net tends to disconnect, even though the timeout at the server is set
> to
> a high number.
>
> If I would open and close the connection for each of the rapid queries,
> isn't that generating more work for the server? Or does it really matter?
>
> What's the 'best' way of dealing with opening / closing' in MySQL?
>
> thanks
> -
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Re: Open stacks

[william humphrey]

revLoadedStacks(application)  maybe?

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 11:46 AM, David Bovill  wrote:

> Any one remember the rev commands for getting lists of open and visible
> stacks... there are some built ins - something like "revOpenStacks()" but
> they are not in the docs as far as I can see. I'm not talking about the
> openstacks or mainstacks, but the ones that filter out the rev ide stacks
> and take into account the mode etc.
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Re: revOnline

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I like the new revOnline browser. It is a great improvement over no search
features, no graphical representation etc. But there are only 81 stacks.
Weren't there more than that before?
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Re: Unable to change color for Data Grid alternate rows

[william humphrey]

You're in Hawaii. That's got to be almost eight hours different time zone
from here in Puerto Rico so that would explain it. My garden is filled
with Hawaiian heliconias.
So should ListMagic users be confident that they have it all over DataGrid
users?

Bill

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Jim Bufalini  wrote:

> William Humphrey wrote:
>
> > Is datagrid almost the same as listmagic? I've been using listmagic and
> > very
> > happy with it except for the lack of support but I haven't tried the
> > datagrid object at all yet and am wondering if the datagrid is really
> > almost
> > a replacement to the concepts introduced in listmagic.
>
> Lack of support! I'm looking at your upgrade issue you sent me just
> yesterday afternoon as we speak. ;-) As to the other things you mentioned,
> they have all been corrected already and you are seeing them because you
> are
> still using the original release of ListMagic.
>
> Aloha from Hawaii,
>
> Jim Bufalini
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Re: Unable to change color for Data Grid alternate rows

[william humphrey]

Is datagrid almost the same as listmagic? I've been using listmagic and very
happy with it except for the lack of support but I haven't tried the
datagrid object at all yet and am wondering if the datagrid is really almost
a replacement to the concepts introduced in listmagic.
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Re: Sending Email with attachment

[william humphrey]

I'm in Mac OS.  Since the solutions are different for Mac and Windows maybe
that is why RevMail doesn't allow to send mail with attachments.

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 1:08 AM, Mark Stuart  wrote:

> Hi William,
> What platform are you aiming this feature to work on?
> If Windows, I have a VBScript that will allow an attachment.
> It launches the email client to populates all the relevant fields, and the
> attachment field.
>
> Let me know.
>
> Regards,
> Mark Stuart
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Re: Sending Email with attachment

[william humphrey]

Thanks. So it looks like there is a different solution for Mac then for
Windows. I'm on Mac so I guess I'll be using the steam engine...

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 4:19 AM, Horst  wrote:

>
> Holá Bill,
>
> Google for "BLAT262", download, read the docs, install and enjoy. Works
> perfect for me (under Windows)
>
> kind regards
>
> Horst
>
>
> BILL HUMPHREY wrote:
> >
> > Since
> >
> > *Syntax: revMail address[,ccAddress[,mailSubject[,messageBody]]]*
> >
> >
> > does not allow for attaching a file how do you do that?
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Re: Sending Email with attachment

[william humphrey]

Since

*Syntax: revMail address[,ccAddress[,mailSubject[,messageBody]]]*


does not allow for attaching a file how do you do that?
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Re: radio buttons in group on mouseup behavior suggestions

[william humphrey]

Solved the radio buttons in group both by using

  *switch* the hilitedButtonName of *group* "x" -- to avoid the numbered
button thing which changed depending on whether you added a new button.


AND


By deleting the button that the switch just couldn't seem to see and adding
a new one with the same name.
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Re: radio buttons in group on mouseup behavior suggestions

[william humphrey]

Thanks for the suggestion. I think I'll do that because I suspect the error
is in the name of one of the buttons.

On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Mark Wieder  wrote:

> william-
>
> Saturday, April 18, 2009, 11:15:36 AM, you wrote:
>
> > It was just a simple "mouseup" in the group script that goes through and
> > checks the hilite of each button in the group and then does an action
> > depending on that hilite like:
>
> >*if* the hilite of button "(CO)" is true *then* do something
>
> Sounds OK, although I usually do something like
>
>  switch the hilitedButton of group x
>case 1
>  -- do the first button thing
>  break
>case 2
>  -- do the second button thing
>  break
>...
>default
>  -- shouldn't ever get here
>  -- so display an error message
>  end switch
>
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Re: radio buttons in group on mouseup behavior suggestions

[william humphrey]

It was just a simple "mouseup" in the group script that goes through and
checks the hilite of each button in the group and then does an action
depending on that hilite like:

   *if* the hilite of button "(CO)" is true *then* do something

On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Mark Wieder  wrote:

> william-
>
>
>
> You're not really checking which button is "down", are you? As opposed
> to checking the hilitedButton of group x? And note that if the mouse
> is moved then the hilite may not change and you won't get a mouseUp
> event...
>
>
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radio buttons in group on mouseup behavior suggestions

[william humphrey]

I have eight or so radio buttons that are in a group. In the script of the
group I have a "on mouseup" command that runs another script that checks
which button is down and then does something. I've noticed that this script
is inconsistent. Sometimes the mouseup is ignored.
I'm looking for another way to do this (short of putting a script in each of
the buttons). Is there some "change of state" property I can look for in the
group maybe?
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Re: standalone woes

[william humphrey]

You would think that RunRev would parse out those
unacceptable characters when compiling for windows. But since it doesn't I'm
glad I read this posting about it as I didn't know about the problem either.
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Re: Please suggest an easy way to deactivate a fields scripts

[william humphrey]

Trevor
That's another reason to look forward to RunRev's newest release. That
sounds interesting.

Craig

Do you really do that in any of your scripts?

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slow search through the more common entries that is also there in the
interests of speed.
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Re: Please suggest an easy way to deactivate a fields scripts

[william humphrey]

Thanks. I will try something like that. I didn't know or about the
environment "dev" and "standalone" checks -- that will help.
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Please suggest an easy way to deactivate a fields scripts

[william humphrey]

I have a data entry field with a bunch of scripts in it that do things like
search through a set of data by watching each key stroke. This is fine must
of the time but occasionally I just want to quickly put some data in it that
is not evaluated. Presently I use "contents" of the inspector to do that but
for the final program would like a button you press that says "edit field no
checks" or something and that button turns off all the scripts in that field
so you can quickly put in some data. The only way I can think to do it is to
have another field that pops up and you put the data is and then it closes
and enters the data in the field with all the scripts. I was just wondering
if there was a quicker way to do that.
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Re: OT: How to reconnect a lost bluetooth mouse?

[william humphrey]

Same thing happened to me when I changed the batteries in my mouse. I think
the latest OS X has a bluetooth problem in it.
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Re: libJson

[william humphrey]

What does your json library do my son?

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Mark Smith  wrote:

> It looks like a couple of people have been trying to download my json
> library - I had the permissions set wrong so they were getting an 'access
> denied' error - this is now fixed.
>
> http://maspub.s3.amazonaws.com/libJson.zip
>
> Best,
>
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Re: Pivot table in excel

[william humphrey]

Got it. It has been years since I've created pivot tables with visual basic
but that's what you'll have to do. Maybe there is a help forum for Microsoft
Excel with someone who can walk you through that?

On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Nhan, Tran Thi Thanh  wrote:

>
> Hi Wiliam,
>
>  I have app which is build on Run Rev and I'm going to make a feature:
> click on button of  one card, it will export content of a field of this card
> to Excel and create Pivot Table on this Excel file also.
>
>  I already do export to Excel but get stuck in creating Pivot Table.
>
> Regards
> Nhan
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of william
> humphrey
> Sent: Sun 3/1/2009 10:09 PM
> To: How to use Revolution
> Subject: Re: Pivot table in excel
>
> In what part of this process are you using Runtime Revolution?
>
> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Nhan, Tran Thi Thanh <
> nhan.t...@rmit.edu.vn> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> >  I'm learning about creating a pivot table in excel 2003 through VBA.
> Could
> > you give your advice? When I click to a button then export list to excel
> and
> > create a pivot table.
> >
> > Many thanks.
> > Nhan
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Re: Pivot table in excel

[william humphrey]

In what part of this process are you using Runtime Revolution?

On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Nhan, Tran Thi Thanh <
nhan.t...@rmit.edu.vn> wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
>  I'm learning about creating a pivot table in excel 2003 through VBA. Could
> you give your advice? When I click to a button then export list to excel and
> create a pivot table.
>
> Many thanks.
> Nhan
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Re: Re-4: List Magic testimony

[william humphrey]

When downloading it again should they do so here:
http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/?r=revolution&l=en

or somewhere else?

On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Jim Bufalini  wrote:

> Hi Neal,
>
> Glad you found the correct stack. :-)
>
> Anyone that downloaded ListMagic 1.1 prior to Friday 2/6/09 should download
> it again. Even though it has the same version number, it has changes to do
> with the entry of registration codes and some minor fixes.
>
> Jim
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-
> > boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Neal Campbell
> > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:10 PM
> > To: How to use Revolution
> > Subject: Re: Re-4: List Magic testimony
> >
> > I indeed had the wrong stack, sorry!
> >
> > Thanks for the help,
> >
> > Neal Campbell
> > Abroham Neal Software
> > Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux
> > www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
> > (540) 242 0911
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Neal Campbell 
> > wrote:
> > > Hi Jim
> > >
> > > On the bottom right (on the stack I got) is a Print button. Do I have
> > > the wrong stack?
> > >
> > > Neal Campbell
> > > Abroham Neal Software
> > > Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux
> > > www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
> > > (540) 242 0911
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Jim Bufalini 
> > wrote:
> > >> Hi Neal,
> > >>
> > >> Click on the *Presentation* tab and then on the *Enter License code*
> > button
> > >> on the bottom right. Follow the directions. Once unlocked, you can
> > download
> > >> any future trial copy and it will be automatically unlocked.
> > >>
> > >> Jim Bufalini
> > >>
> > >>> -Original Message-
> > >>> From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-
> > revolution-
> > >>> boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Neal Campbell
> > >>> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:45 PM
> > >>> To: How to use Revolution
> > >>> Subject: Re: Re-4: List Magic testimony
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi Jim
> > >>>
> > >>> I got an unlock code but am not sure how to use it. Where do you
> > enter
> > >>> the code?
> > >>>
> > >>> Neal Campbell
> > >>> Abroham Neal Software
> > >>> Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux
> > >>> www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
> > >>> (540) 242 0911
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Jim Bufalini 
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> > Dear Bob and All,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > We are still in the process of sorting things out after Eric's
> > >>> untimely and
> > >>> > unexpected death. Just yesterday and today we managed to get
> > unlock
> > >>> codes to
> > >>> > all who had purchased and posted the latest updated version of
> > >>> ListMagic 1.1
> > >>> > for download.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > If anyone purchased ListMagic and has not already received an
> > unlock
> > >>> code,
> > >>> > or if you would like to contribute to the future of ListMagic,
> > please
> > >>> > contact me off-list.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > To read about ListMagic and either download the latest trial copy
> > or
> > >>> > purchase ListMagic, please visit:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > http://www.runrev.com/products/related-software/listmagic/
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Proceeds from the sales of ListMagic are going to his son
> > Emmanuel.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Thanks!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Jim Bufalini
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >> -Original Message-
> > >>> >> From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-
> > >>> revolution-
> > >>> >> boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Bob Sneidar
> > >>> >> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 7:33 AM
> > >>> >> To: How to use Revolution
> > >>> >> Subject: Re: Re-4: List Magic testimony
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> Out of curiosity, will this stack continue to work in demo mode
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> > I
> > >>> will
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> > >>> >> programming. Just what I needed in fact. But if not, then I
> > cannot
> > >>> >> risk using it in a production project if it is going to fail at
> > a
> > >>> >> later point.
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> Bob Sneidar
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Re: Re-2: ListMagic calculated columns

[william humphrey]

Jim
I didn't receive the email notice either.

Bill
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Re: Re-2: ListMagic calculated columns

[william humphrey]

Thanks
This link


http://downloads.runrev.com/revselect/ListMagic1.1.zip

Downloads and empty folder...
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Re: ListMagic calculated columns

[william humphrey]

A list magic suggestion:
Please don't add too many features. My favorite thing about listmagic is the
ease of use. There are other very promising add-ons to RunRev that I had so
much hope for but which I've been unable to use because I couldn't overcome
the initial learning curve necessary to get to use them. A good example is
Quartam Reports. It is a wonderful program/add-on which could solve, I'm
sure, many of the problems I'm having with the reporting features of my
database program but I was never able to figure out how to use it and ended
up hand coding all my reports directly in RunRev.

List Magic just works right out of the box and takes very little
understanding. Please be careful as you add features (which as the
programmer you will understand but you risk your user not being able to
figure out).

Maybe you make two versions? A feature bloated one and the original one only
with even cleaner and more bug free code?

Just a suggestion. I also didn't mean to pick on Quartam reports like that
(only as an example of what happens with complex programs). Valentina also
has a reporting function that I've never been able to figure out enough to
use productively. It might be because I am used to the old reporting
function "Nine to Five Reports" for hypercard which had the advantage over
our Quartam Reports and Valentina Reports of not having to work with SQL
databases.

Bill
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Re: ListMagic calculated columns

[william humphrey]

I'm having trouble getting "LMPopulate" to work when the list widget is in a
card on another stack.
WHen I do: "LMPopulate tList,the long ID of fld "Customers" of card "Sales"
of stack "hopeless'" as in the example it doesn't work. I end up having to

lock screen
go card "sales" of stack "hopeless"

*LMPopulate tList*

go stack "original stack"

unlock screen


This wouldn't be so bad except there is still a flash of the "hopeless"
stack even with the lock screen.
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Re: Re-8: List Magic testimony

[william humphrey]

Thanks Matthias
That didn't solve the problem but I figured out what was causing the
problem. You can't have a listmagic field in a stack that is a drawer stack.
It just doesn't work no matter how you try to populate it. So I'm
re-designing the interface so that stack doesn't have to be a drawer stack.

Bill

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 8:33 AM,  wrote:

> Hi Bill,
>
> To ugrade your stack manually do the following:
>
> Clone the SSSLMLib stack from
> ListMagic1.1, make it a substack of your project, copy the name
> of your SSSLMLib, delete it and set the name of the cloned substack
> to it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Matthias
>
>
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: Re-6: List Magic testimony (30-Jan-2009 13:07)
> From:william humphrey 
> To:  runrev260...@m-r-d.de
>
> > Gosh I hope so. The bug occurs when you click on the header to change the
> > search to that column. The change search works fine but the script de-
> > bugger
> > opens.
> > It only occurs in a list that I made with the newest version so I'm
> > thinking
> > that "upgrading" maybe didn't change my library stack to the newer
> version
> > so I'm going to try to figure out how to do that manually.
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 2:37 AM,  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Bill,
> > >
> > > > Also this new version
> > > > still has something that occasionally opens the script (or tries to
> but
> > > > can't cuz it's locked).
> > >
> > > When does this happen? Until now, this did not happened here with the
> new
> > > version.
> > >
> > > Maybe we could collect all these bugs. So, if the development of
> ListMagic
> > > is continued by someone, what i am  really hoping, we could  give a
> > > complete
> > > list of bugs to the developer.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Matthias
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Re: Re-6: List Magic testimony

[william humphrey]

Gosh I hope so. The bug occurs when you click on the header to change the
search to that column. The change search works fine but the script de-bugger
opens.
It only occurs in a list that I made with the newest version so I'm thinking
that "upgrading" maybe didn't change my library stack to the newer version
so I'm going to try to figure out how to do that manually.

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 2:37 AM,  wrote:

> Hi Bill,
>
> > Also this new version
> > still has something that occasionally opens the script (or tries to but
> > can't cuz it's locked).
>
> When does this happen? Until now, this did not happened here with the new
> version.
>
> Maybe we could collect all these bugs. So, if the development of ListMagic
> is continued by someone, what i am  really hoping, we could  give a complete
> list of bugs to the developer.
>
> Regards,
>
> Matthias
>
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Re: Re-4: List Magic testimony

[william humphrey]

Thanks. It is "revGoURL" not what I said earlier. Also this new version
still has something that occasionally opens the script (or tries to but
can't cuz it's locked). But there are even more improvements. I don't see
how anyone can take up the torch on this excellent code.

On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 8:04 PM, william humphrey wrote:

> I think I'm supposed to "GO URL:
> http://www.revolutionatwork.com/ListMagic.rev";<http://www.revolutionatwork.com/ListMagic.rev>
> in RunRev? If you just use a regular browser on a Mac OS X machine you get
> some weird files on your desktop.
>
> Bill
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 7:54 PM, william humphrey wrote:
>
>> COOL. I'm sure this will help others too. I think everyone should try it.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 5:33 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>> No problem. Do you have the latest version from 10th January?
>>>
>>> If not, i put the stack online. As it is a demo, i think it´s okay for
>>> Erics heirs.
>>>
>>> You can get it at  http://www.revolutionatwork.com/ListMagic.rev
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Matthias
>>>
>>>  Original Message 
>>> Subject: Re: Re-2: List Magic testimony (29-Jan-2009 21:55)
>>> From:william humphrey 
>>> To:  runrev260...@m-r-d.de
>>>
>>> > SORRY!  It's only annoying because the library wasn't finished. I
>>> > understand
>>> > that these types of DRM are one way to protect copyright.
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:23 PM,  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Bill,
>>> > >
>>> > > > I'm using
>>> > > > ListMagic in my project and love it but the password on the library
>>> is
>>> > > > completely annoying.
>>> > >
>>> > > correct me if i am wrong, but isn´t it normal to protect a commercial
>>> > > product?
>>> > >
>>> > > Why are you complaining about password protected stacks in ListMagic?
>>> > >
>>> > > I just checked 2 commercial products, which can be used in or with
>>> > > Revolution.
>>> > >
>>> > > Zygodact is protected and also Scripter´sScrapbook is.
>>> > >
>>> > > Regards,
>>> > >
>>> > > Matthias Rebbe
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Re: Re-4: List Magic testimony

[william humphrey]

I think I'm supposed to "GO URL:
http://www.revolutionatwork.com/ListMagic.rev";<http://www.revolutionatwork.com/ListMagic.rev>
in RunRev? If you just use a regular browser on a Mac OS X machine you get
some weird files on your desktop.

Bill

On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 7:54 PM, william humphrey wrote:

> COOL. I'm sure this will help others too. I think everyone should try it.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 5:33 PM,  wrote:
>
>> No problem. Do you have the latest version from 10th January?
>>
>> If not, i put the stack online. As it is a demo, i think it´s okay for
>> Erics heirs.
>>
>> You can get it at  http://www.revolutionatwork.com/ListMagic.rev
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Matthias
>>
>> ---- Original Message 
>> Subject: Re: Re-2: List Magic testimony (29-Jan-2009 21:55)
>> From:william humphrey 
>> To:  runrev260...@m-r-d.de
>>
>> > SORRY!  It's only annoying because the library wasn't finished. I
>> > understand
>> > that these types of DRM are one way to protect copyright.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:23 PM,  wrote:
>> >
>> > > Bill,
>> > >
>> > > > I'm using
>> > > > ListMagic in my project and love it but the password on the library
>> is
>> > > > completely annoying.
>> > >
>> > > correct me if i am wrong, but isn´t it normal to protect a commercial
>> > > product?
>> > >
>> > > Why are you complaining about password protected stacks in ListMagic?
>> > >
>> > > I just checked 2 commercial products, which can be used in or with
>> > > Revolution.
>> > >
>> > > Zygodact is protected and also Scripter´sScrapbook is.
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > >
>> > > Matthias Rebbe
>> > >
>> > >
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Re: Re-4: List Magic testimony

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COOL. I'm sure this will help others too. I think everyone should try it.

On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 5:33 PM,  wrote:

> No problem. Do you have the latest version from 10th January?
>
> If not, i put the stack online. As it is a demo, i think it´s okay for
> Erics heirs.
>
> You can get it at  http://www.revolutionatwork.com/ListMagic.rev
>
> Regards,
>
> Matthias
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: Re-2: List Magic testimony (29-Jan-2009 21:55)
> From:william humphrey 
> To:  runrev260...@m-r-d.de
>
> > SORRY!  It's only annoying because the library wasn't finished. I
> > understand
> > that these types of DRM are one way to protect copyright.
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:23 PM,  wrote:
> >
> > > Bill,
> > >
> > > > I'm using
> > > > ListMagic in my project and love it but the password on the library
> is
> > > > completely annoying.
> > >
> > > correct me if i am wrong, but isn´t it normal to protect a commercial
> > > product?
> > >
> > > Why are you complaining about password protected stacks in ListMagic?
> > >
> > > I just checked 2 commercial products, which can be used in or with
> > > Revolution.
> > >
> > > Zygodact is protected and also Scripter´sScrapbook is.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Matthias Rebbe
> > >
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