Re: [OT] .ds_store Messing Up ZIP

2006-01-06 Thread Sivakatirswami

ditto that here... I use DropZip nearly every day...
skts

On Jan 03, 2006, at 7:25 PM, Ken Ray wrote:

I ran into the same problem and bought Stuffit so I could use  
DropZip...
this creates a "clean" zip file, which I use whenever I know the  
other user

may or may not have OS X. It's served me well...


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Re: [OT] .ds_store Messing Up ZIP

2006-01-04 Thread Christian Langers

Hello Revers,


I just wanted to tell you, inspired by this topic, that I just  
uploaded a little plugin that will do the job...


It's called "Free us" and it's in the "Utilities"-categorie of  
revOnline...


It will erase those "nasty" .DS_Files and even, if you wish, zip this  
cleaned folder...


Just drag and drop



Enjoy,


Christian L.
Luxembourg
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Re: [OT] .ds_store Messing Up ZIP

2006-01-03 Thread Ken Ray
On 1/3/06 6:14 PM, "Scott Rossi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is there any Mac utility out there that allows one to poke around inside a
> ZIP archive to delete these extraneous .ds_store files?  Or even better,
> some way to tell Stuffit to ignore/delete these files in the first place?

I ran into the same problem and bought Stuffit so I could use DropZip...
this creates a "clean" zip file, which I use whenever I know the other user
may or may not have OS X. It's served me well...


Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [OT] .ds_store Messing Up ZIP

2006-01-03 Thread Chipp Walters

Scott,

I have a plugin for MacOSX users which will display all invisible files 
in a folder and you can also choose to make them visible. From there 
it's an easy step to remove them.


Plugin named: altFileMgr

Type in the MSG box:

go URL "http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/revAltFileMgr.rev";

best,

Chipp

Scott Rossi wrote:

I've been plagued by this enough that I thought I would ask...

For me, creating simple ZIP archives on Mac systems that contain a few files
is usually straightforward.  However, I often find that when the ZIP
archives starts to contain nested subfolders, I often wind up with invisible
.ds_store files that corrupt the archive when it comes time to decompress on
Windows systems.  The only recourse seems to be to move folders over to
Windows, delete any .ds_store files, and compress there.

Is there any Mac utility out there that allows one to poke around inside a
ZIP archive to delete these extraneous .ds_store files?  Or even better,
some way to tell Stuffit to ignore/delete these files in the first place?


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Re: [OT] .ds_store Messing Up ZIP

2006-01-03 Thread wouter
Or use CleanArchiver, which is freeware and can compress to the  
following formats:


gzip
bzip2
zip
DiskImage
Stuffit
StuffitX

Greetings,
Wouter

On 04 Jan 2006, at 02:21, Ton Kuypers wrote:

I use Stuffit to create SIT files for distribution to Macs and ZIP  
files for distribution to Windows users... And Stuffit has got an  
option NOT to copy these pesky hidden files...

Works perfect, can advice it to anyone!


Warm regards,


Ton Kuypers
Digital Media Partners bvba
Tel. +32 (0)477 / 739 530
Fax +32 (0)14 / 71 03 04
http://www.dmp-int.com



On 4-jan-06, at 01:14, Scott Rossi wrote:


I've been plagued by this enough that I thought I would ask...

For me, creating simple ZIP archives on Mac systems that contain a  
few files

is usually straightforward.  However, I often find that when the ZIP
archives starts to contain nested subfolders, I often wind up with  
invisible
.ds_store files that corrupt the archive when it comes time to  
decompress on
Windows systems.  The only recourse seems to be to move folders  
over to

Windows, delete any .ds_store files, and compress there.

Is there any Mac utility out there that allows one to poke around  
inside a
ZIP archive to delete these extraneous .ds_store files?  Or even  
better,
some way to tell Stuffit to ignore/delete these files in the first  
place?



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Re: [OT] .ds_store Messing Up ZIP

2006-01-03 Thread Ton Kuypers

Sorry... forgot to mention I'm using Stuffit Deluxe 9...
In the preferences I can set "Ignore Finder desktop files", THAT  
prevents copying all invisible files into the ZIP.



Warm regards,


Ton Kuypers
Digital Media Partners bvba
Tel. +32 (0)477 / 739 530
Fax +32 (0)14 / 71 03 04
http://www.dmp-int.com

On 4-jan-06, at 01:14, Scott Rossi wrote:


I've been plagued by this enough that I thought I would ask...

For me, creating simple ZIP archives on Mac systems that contain a  
few files

is usually straightforward.  However, I often find that when the ZIP
archives starts to contain nested subfolders, I often wind up with  
invisible
.ds_store files that corrupt the archive when it comes time to  
decompress on
Windows systems.  The only recourse seems to be to move folders  
over to

Windows, delete any .ds_store files, and compress there.

Is there any Mac utility out there that allows one to poke around  
inside a
ZIP archive to delete these extraneous .ds_store files?  Or even  
better,
some way to tell Stuffit to ignore/delete these files in the first  
place?



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Re: [OT] .ds_store Messing Up ZIP

2006-01-03 Thread Ton Kuypers
I use Stuffit to create SIT files for distribution to Macs and ZIP  
files for distribution to Windows users... And Stuffit has got an  
option NOT to copy these pesky hidden files...

Works perfect, can advice it to anyone!


Warm regards,


Ton Kuypers
Digital Media Partners bvba
Tel. +32 (0)477 / 739 530
Fax +32 (0)14 / 71 03 04
http://www.dmp-int.com



On 4-jan-06, at 01:14, Scott Rossi wrote:


I've been plagued by this enough that I thought I would ask...

For me, creating simple ZIP archives on Mac systems that contain a  
few files

is usually straightforward.  However, I often find that when the ZIP
archives starts to contain nested subfolders, I often wind up with  
invisible
.ds_store files that corrupt the archive when it comes time to  
decompress on
Windows systems.  The only recourse seems to be to move folders  
over to

Windows, delete any .ds_store files, and compress there.

Is there any Mac utility out there that allows one to poke around  
inside a
ZIP archive to delete these extraneous .ds_store files?  Or even  
better,
some way to tell Stuffit to ignore/delete these files in the first  
place?



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Re: [OT] .ds_store Messing Up ZIP

2006-01-03 Thread Charles Hartman


On Jan 3, 2006, at 7:29 PM, Phil Davis wrote:

dot-file removal is one of my standard steps when creating a cross- 
platform CD. From what little I can tell, I assume those files are  
probably Mac resource forks that only show up on a platform that  
doesn't understand them (Windows). Is that the way you guys  
understand them?


Not (as I understand it) resource forks (which have to do with files;  
do we even still have them in OSX??), but artifacts of the Darwin  
filesystem.


Charles

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Re: [OT] .ds_store Messing Up ZIP

2006-01-03 Thread J. Landman Gay

I wrote:
Actually, it stores Finder folder info such as icon sizes, display 
options, background color or picture, window size and location, etc. 
This is only useful for OS X. Many (if not most) .dmg images contain one 
of these files so that when the image mounts, the author's custom 
background will display.




Never mind, I see you guys already know this and I'd misread the 
question. Forget me. I'm still groggy from the holidays.


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Re: [OT] .ds_store Messing Up ZIP

2006-01-03 Thread Peter Reid

Scott

Try the free program "FinderCleaner" which is able to clean (remove!) 
the following:


- .DS_Store files
- Resource forks
- FBC files
- .Trashes

Here's the description from the ReadMe:

What is it?
FinderCleaner is a small application that helps you when you share 
volumes or folders with Windows users (or any other OS for that 
matter), for example USB memory sticks. FinderCleaner deletes some 
files and folders invisible to Mac users but visible to Windows users 
so Windows users don't get stuck with annoying files that have no use 
to them. Mac users need not to worry about deleting these files 
because the volume will still work as usual. Note that you cannot 
move files to the trash on the selected volume after running this app 
until you eject and mount it again. You can still delete files but 
you will be warned that they will be deleted immediately. This app 
may also be of use when you have trouble with devices like mp3 
players or mobile phones that have trouble with Mac OS specific files.


What does it exactly do?
FinderCleaner removes the following files and folders:
.DS_Store
.Trashes
Resource forks.
FBC files.

Optionally FinderCleaner can eject the volume in a way where the 
above mentioned files will not be created on eject. Ejecting in the 
Finder will at least recreate some of the mess you just cleaned.



You can download it from the usual places including:

http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/16996

Cheers

Peter


I've been plagued by this enough that I thought I would ask...

For me, creating simple ZIP archives on Mac systems that contain a few files
is usually straightforward.  However, I often find that when the ZIP
archives starts to contain nested subfolders, I often wind up with invisible
.ds_store files that corrupt the archive when it comes time to decompress on
Windows systems.  The only recourse seems to be to move folders over to
Windows, delete any .ds_store files, and compress there.

Is there any Mac utility out there that allows one to poke around inside a
ZIP archive to delete these extraneous .ds_store files?  Or even better,
some way to tell Stuffit to ignore/delete these files in the first place?

Other suggestions welcome.

Thanks & Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design


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Re: [OT] .ds_store Messing Up ZIP

2006-01-03 Thread J. Landman Gay

Richard Gaskin wrote:

Phil Davis wrote:

dot-file removal is one of my standard steps when creating a 
cross-platform CD. From what little I can tell, I assume those files 
are probably Mac resource forks that only show up on a platform that 
doesn't understand them (Windows). Is that the way you guys understand 
them?



Yes, that appears to be the case.  But it writes them for most files 
whether or not they have a resource fork, and of course directories have 
the Finder info stored in .DS_Store.


Actually, it stores Finder folder info such as icon sizes, display 
options, background color or picture, window size and location, etc. 
This is only useful for OS X. Many (if not most) .dmg images contain one 
of these files so that when the image mounts, the author's custom 
background will display.


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Re: [OT] .ds_store Messing Up ZIP

2006-01-03 Thread Jim Ault
> > Is there any Mac utility out there (details & full quote blow)
Scott, this is definitely an annoyance that Apple has created with OSX.
try this approach

 answer folder ""
set the defaultfolder to it
answer there is a file ".ds_store"
delete file ".ds_store"
answer there is a file ".ds_store"

--now make a new folder there, and bingo.. another .ds_store file :-(


Or you can go to Apple
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/system_disk_utilities/findercleaner.ht
ml

FinderCleaner
FinderCleaner cleans hidden files the Finder creates. These files can be
annoying in mixed OS environments or they might even cause some deveices
like MP3 player not to function correctly.

Useful for USB sticks or MP3 players, for example.

FinderCleaner cleans the following items:
.DS_Store files 
Resource forks 
FBC files 
.Trashes 

FinderCleaner can also eject a volume in a clean way so no new mess is
created by the Finder.

What¹s New in this Version
- Added version check option
- You can no longer enter an empty password and continue
- General code optimization

Apple is providing links to these applications as a courtesy, and makes no
representations regarding the applications or any information related
thereto. Any questions, complaints or claims regarding the applications must
be directed to the appropriate software vendor.


On 1/3/06 4:14 PM, "Scott Rossi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've been plagued by this enough that I thought I would ask...
> 
> For me, creating simple ZIP archives on Mac systems that contain a few files
> is usually straightforward.  However, I often find that when the ZIP
> archives starts to contain nested subfolders, I often wind up with invisible
> .ds_store files that corrupt the archive when it comes time to decompress on
> Windows systems.  The only recourse seems to be to move folders over to
> Windows, delete any .ds_store files, and compress there.
> 
> Is there any Mac utility out there that allows one to poke around inside a
> ZIP archive to delete these extraneous .ds_store files?  Or even better,
> some way to tell Stuffit to ignore/delete these files in the first place?
> 
> Other suggestions welcome.
> 
> Thanks & Regards,
> 
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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> E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> W: http://www.tactilemedia.com
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Re: [OT] .ds_store Messing Up ZIP

2006-01-03 Thread Richard Gaskin

Phil Davis wrote:
dot-file removal is one of my standard steps when creating a 
cross-platform CD. From what little I can tell, I assume those files are 
probably Mac resource forks that only show up on a platform that doesn't 
understand them (Windows). Is that the way you guys understand them?


Yes, that appears to be the case.  But it writes them for most files 
whether or not they have a resource fork, and of course directories have 
the Finder info stored in .DS_Store.


I've written a utility to clean my MP3 player after I copy files, but it 
seems silly to have to do that just to accomodate Apple's insistence 
that the world be Mac-compatible.


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Re: [OT] .ds_store Messing Up ZIP

2006-01-03 Thread Richard Gaskin

Trevor DeVore wrote:

On Jan 3, 2006, at 4:14 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:



Is there any Mac utility out there that allows one to poke around  
inside a

ZIP archive to delete these extraneous .ds_store files?



The terminal can help you here.  Open terminal and change to the  
directory you want to delete all .ds_store files from (including  
subdirectories).  One way to do this is to type "cd " and then drag  the 
folder from the finder.  Type "return" and that will change the  active 
directory of the terminal.


Type this:

find ./ -name ".DS_Store" -exec rm -f {} \;

This should get rid of all the files.  I use it all of the time.


Is there a way to tell the OS to never copy any files starting with "." 
when copying to removable devices?


Or is the lack of such a critical feature part of Apple's "buy our 
hardware or suffer" strategy?


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Re: [OT] .ds_store Messing Up ZIP

2006-01-03 Thread Phil Davis
dot-file removal is one of my standard steps when creating a 
cross-platform CD. From what little I can tell, I assume those files are 
probably Mac resource forks that only show up on a platform that doesn't 
understand them (Windows). Is that the way you guys understand them?


Phil Davis



Richard Gaskin wrote:

Scott Rossi wrote:


I've been plagued by this enough that I thought I would ask...

For me, creating simple ZIP archives on Mac systems that contain a few 
files

is usually straightforward.  However, I often find that when the ZIP
archives starts to contain nested subfolders, I often wind up with 
invisible
.ds_store files that corrupt the archive when it comes time to 
decompress on

Windows systems.  The only recourse seems to be to move folders over to
Windows, delete any .ds_store files, and compress there.

Is there any Mac utility out there that allows one to poke around 
inside a

ZIP archive to delete these extraneous .ds_store files?  Or even better,
some way to tell Stuffit to ignore/delete these files in the first place?



Or one step better, a way to tell the OS not to pollute transferred 
directories with that OS-specific crap?


It wreaks havoc with all but a few MP3 players, and really should be 
something the user can control.



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Re: [OT] .ds_store Messing Up ZIP

2006-01-03 Thread Trevor DeVore

On Jan 3, 2006, at 4:14 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:


Is there any Mac utility out there that allows one to poke around  
inside a

ZIP archive to delete these extraneous .ds_store files?


The terminal can help you here.  Open terminal and change to the  
directory you want to delete all .ds_store files from (including  
subdirectories).  One way to do this is to type "cd " and then drag  
the folder from the finder.  Type "return" and that will change the  
active directory of the terminal.


Type this:

find ./ -name ".DS_Store" -exec rm -f {} \;

This should get rid of all the files.  I use it all of the time.


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Re: [OT] .ds_store Messing Up ZIP

2006-01-03 Thread Richard Gaskin

Scott Rossi wrote:

I've been plagued by this enough that I thought I would ask...

For me, creating simple ZIP archives on Mac systems that contain a few files
is usually straightforward.  However, I often find that when the ZIP
archives starts to contain nested subfolders, I often wind up with invisible
.ds_store files that corrupt the archive when it comes time to decompress on
Windows systems.  The only recourse seems to be to move folders over to
Windows, delete any .ds_store files, and compress there.

Is there any Mac utility out there that allows one to poke around inside a
ZIP archive to delete these extraneous .ds_store files?  Or even better,
some way to tell Stuffit to ignore/delete these files in the first place?


Or one step better, a way to tell the OS not to pollute transferred 
directories with that OS-specific crap?


It wreaks havoc with all but a few MP3 players, and really should be 
something the user can control.


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[OT] .ds_store Messing Up ZIP

2006-01-03 Thread Scott Rossi
I've been plagued by this enough that I thought I would ask...

For me, creating simple ZIP archives on Mac systems that contain a few files
is usually straightforward.  However, I often find that when the ZIP
archives starts to contain nested subfolders, I often wind up with invisible
.ds_store files that corrupt the archive when it comes time to decompress on
Windows systems.  The only recourse seems to be to move folders over to
Windows, delete any .ds_store files, and compress there.

Is there any Mac utility out there that allows one to poke around inside a
ZIP archive to delete these extraneous .ds_store files?  Or even better,
some way to tell Stuffit to ignore/delete these files in the first place?

Other suggestions welcome.

Thanks & Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
W: http://www.tactilemedia.com

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