Re: [OT] Apple developing Flash alternative
On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 3:22 AM, Chipp Walters ch...@altuit.com wrote: Interesting. Very interesting. Richard, how long do you suppose until Apple bans web apps for the iPhone/iPad AppStore unless they are only made with their new tool? Probably shortly after they make it illegal to lend your MacBook to your mother/brother etc. Oh wait, he's already done that: 5. NO RENTAL/COMMERCIAL HOSTING. You may not rent, lease, lend or provide commercial hosting services with the Software. So maybe shortly after they make it impossible for you to sell your iMac on eBay. Oh wait, he's already done that: 13. SOFTWARE TRANSFER. Internal. You may move the Software to a different Workstation Computer. After the transfer, you must completely remove the Software from the former Workstation Computer. Transfer to Third Party. The initial user of the Software may make a one-time permanent transfer of this EULA and Software to another end user, provided the initial user retains no copies of the Software. This transfer must include all of the Software (including all component parts, the media and printed materials, any upgrades, this EULA, and, if applicable, the Certificate of Authenticity). The transfer may not be an indirect transfer, such as a consignment. Prior to the transfer, the end user receiving the Software must agree to all the EULA terms. Note that if you were to sell your iMac on eBay and you had ANY back-up copies of your hard drive you'd be in direct breach of this clause. Oh, wait a minute, I'm sorry, I got the wrong EULA out, this is the Bill Gates EULA but I'm sure the Steve Jobs one says the same thing. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/eula/home.mspx Interesting what the fine print says. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Apple developing Flash alternative
On 08/05/2010 07:32, Richard Gaskin wrote: Apple developing Flash alternative named Gianduia http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/05/07/apple_developing_flash_alternative_named_gianduia.html -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Is that Glandula as in glandular, or something vaguely Italian? Because if it is the former they seem to have chosen an unwise name. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Apple developing Flash alternative
Richmond- Sunday, May 9, 2010, 5:25:41 AM, you wrote: Is that Glandula as in glandular, or something vaguely Italian? Because if it is the former they seem to have chosen an unwise name. If you follow up and look at the link you'll see in the fourth sentence that Gianduia is named after an Italian hazelnut chocolate. I think it's an overly pretentious attempt to come up with more spinoffs from the Cocoa name, but there you go. Whether it's a wise choice of not isn't my call. Maybe their lawyers are gearing up for another trademark lawsuit. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Apple developing Flash alternative
Is that Glandula as in glandular, or something vaguely Italian? Because if it is the former they seem to have chosen an unwise name. Apple sometimes gives different departments different names or code names so they can trace leaks. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Apple developing Flash alternative
I suspect that just as Jerry chose Rodeo for his new service, name picking is done by the people coming up with the design and choose what they like. I know in the 90's when I was in charge of a global technology call center, I went to Apple for a best practice visit and they had named their meeting rooms after sushi. You could cynically say How pretentious but the employees smiled every time they mentioned a room so they enjoyed it. Just look at the Intel chip names, obviously someone loves those location names that none of us find amusing or even memorable! Brs Neal ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Apple developing Flash alternative
On 09/05/2010 20:18, Josh Mellicker wrote: Is that Glandula as in glandular, or something vaguely Italian? Because if it is the former they seem to have chosen an unwise name. Apple sometimes gives different departments different names or code names so they can trace leaks. Leaks of what? Last time I looked computers don't have glands; maybe I'm getting out of date. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Apple developing Flash alternative
On 09/05/2010 20:25, Neal Campbell wrote: I suspect that just as Jerry chose Rodeo for his new service, name picking is done by the people coming up with the design and choose what they like. I know in the 90's when I was in charge of a global technology call center, I went to Apple for a best practice visit and they had named their meeting rooms after sushi. You could cynically say How pretentious but the employees smiled every time they mentioned a room so they enjoyed it. Just look at the Intel chip names, obviously someone loves those location names that none of us find amusing or even memorable! I think I prefer location to lactation; maybe it's a side affect of Steve Jobs' veganism. Of course it could be something linked with, say, the thyroid gland; but that doesn't make me feel very comfy either. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Apple developing Flash alternative
Richmond- Sunday, May 9, 2010, 10:46:49 AM, you wrote: Leaks of what? Last time I looked computers don't have glands; maybe I'm getting out of date. I'm fairly sure my Windows computers have bile glands. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Apple developing Flash alternative
On 09/05/2010 20:55, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Sunday, May 9, 2010, 10:46:49 AM, you wrote: Leaks of what? Last time I looked computers don't have glands; maybe I'm getting out of date. I'm fairly sure my Windows computers have bile glands. Oh, Gosh, here I am back at my computer after 4 days without; lovely holiday; and I am already feeling queasy. All I can say is that I am really rather glad that Sivakatirswami came up with 'Devawriter' for my software before I put my big, fat foot in it and gave it some sort of name that would have elicited comments and remarks of this sort. Of course; I had all sorts of fairly unprintable names in mind; and as my all-in-wrestling match to tame the RunRev-crossbreeds-with-Unicode dragon they became increasingly unprintable. On the other hand, I prefer 'Glandular' to the poncy Italian chocolate . . . :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: [OT] Apple developing Flash alternative
Apple developing Flash alternative named Gianduia http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/05/07/apple_developin g_flash_alternative_named_gianduia.html Isn't this just another javascript framework? While I see some duplication of functions, I have been wondering how these (abeit increasingly powerful) frameworks completely replace Flash or Rev for that matter, delivered through a plugin experience. We see a lot of examples of implementation but not very sophisticated editing and testing environments for them. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Apple developing Flash alternative
Over the past 2 or 3 years, I kept seeing references to Apple Gianduia on the WebObjects list. But as everyone was under NDA, they would never say exactly what it was. Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Apple developing Flash alternative
On 5/8/10 10:32 AM, Lynn Fredricks wrote: Apple developing Flash alternative named Gianduia http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/05/07/apple_developin g_flash_alternative_named_gianduia.html Isn't this just another javascript framework? As of 8 May at 10:49 AM that's true. But it's not like Apple has no experience making authoring tools, and it seems a slender leap to consider the possibility that they'll turn out an IDE for this within the coming months. I'd wager they do. To NOT do so would hamper their strategy. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Apple developing Flash alternative
Interesting. Very interesting. Richard, how long do you suppose until Apple bans web apps for the iPhone/iPad AppStore unless they are only made with their new tool? Chipp Walters CEO Shafer Walters Group, Inc President, Altuit, Inc On May 8, 2010, at 12:50 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: As of 8 May at 10:49 AM that's true. But it's not like Apple has no experience making authoring tools, and it seems a slender leap to consider the possibility that they'll turn out an IDE for this within the coming months. I'd wager they do. To NOT do so would hamper their strategy. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] Apple developing Flash alternative
Apple developing Flash alternative named Gianduia http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/05/07/apple_developing_flash_alternative_named_gianduia.html -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution