Re: [OT] Building Mac Installers

2007-01-30 Thread J. Landman Gay

Chipp Walters wrote:

Scott,
Let us know what you find out!
I would like a Mac installer which would do the following:

1) Create an Internet compatible DMG
2) Create an install finder window like:
http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/StandaloneBuilderTutorial/16.jpg
3) Display the README.txt and LICENSE.txt files BEFORE allowing install
(with checkboxes of course)
4) Extra bonus points if it actually installs anything. For some reason,
Apple thinks mounting a DMG as a volume is the same as installing an
application. Unless one knows to drag/drop the contents TO the APPS folder,
the program is GONE next reboot (not to mention it is a write-only
partition). An installer, which installs (like every other platform uses)
would be nice.


I have to agree with Andre, use PackageMaker. I just finished creating 
an installer with this and it does everything you ask for and more. Once 
you've created your package, you can use a utility like DropDMG to put 
the pkg file onto a downloadable dmg file. Or you can just zip and 
distribute the pkg file; either one.


Note though that most Mac users have no problem dragging apps to the 
Applications folder and Apple recommends that if you are distributing a 
single bundle app, you should use the drag method rather than an 
installer. Installers seem to be a fairly Windows-oriented thing. The 
main reason my client and I had to use the Apple package installer is 
because we needed to set custom permissions on a folder, but other than 
that dragging would have been fine.


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Re: [OT] Building Mac Installers

2007-01-30 Thread Trevor DeVore

On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:21 AM, Chipp Walters wrote:


Scott,
Let us know what you find out!
I would like a Mac installer which would do the following:

1) Create an Internet compatible DMG
2) Create an install finder window like:
http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/StandaloneBuilderTutorial/16.jpg
3) Display the README.txt and LICENSE.txt files BEFORE allowing  
install

(with checkboxes of course)
4) Extra bonus points if it actually installs anything. For some  
reason,

Apple thinks mounting a DMG as a volume is the same as installing an
application. Unless one knows to drag/drop the contents TO the APPS  
folder,

the program is GONE next reboot (not to mention it is a write-only
partition). An installer, which installs (like every other platform  
uses)

would be nice.


FileStorm from MindVision does all of these things.

For DMG files that don't require installers, having an alias to the  
Applications folder on the DMG itself is handy so the user just drops  
the application onto the alias to install.


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Blue Mango Learning Systems - www.bluemangolearning.com
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Re: [OT] Building Mac Installers

2007-01-30 Thread Andre Garzia

Chipp,

why don't you use a .pkg file? The Developers Tools come with  
PackageMaker, it allows you to build nice installers that actually  
install something.


Andre

On Jan 30, 2007, at 5:21 PM, Chipp Walters wrote:


Scott,
Let us know what you find out!
I would like a Mac installer which would do the following:

1) Create an Internet compatible DMG
2) Create an install finder window like:
http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/StandaloneBuilderTutorial/16.jpg
3) Display the README.txt and LICENSE.txt files BEFORE allowing  
install

(with checkboxes of course)
4) Extra bonus points if it actually installs anything. For some  
reason,

Apple thinks mounting a DMG as a volume is the same as installing an
application. Unless one knows to drag/drop the contents TO the APPS  
folder,

the program is GONE next reboot (not to mention it is a write-only
partition). An installer, which installs (like every other platform  
uses)

would be nice.

-Chipp
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Re: [OT] Building Mac Installers

2007-01-30 Thread Marian Petrides

I think you meant, read only, correct  Chipp?

On Jan 30, 2007, at 1:21 PM, Chipp Walters wrote:


not to mention it is a write-only partition


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Re: [OT] Building Mac Installers

2007-01-30 Thread Chipp Walters

Scott,
Let us know what you find out!
I would like a Mac installer which would do the following:

1) Create an Internet compatible DMG
2) Create an install finder window like:
http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/StandaloneBuilderTutorial/16.jpg
3) Display the README.txt and LICENSE.txt files BEFORE allowing install
(with checkboxes of course)
4) Extra bonus points if it actually installs anything. For some reason,
Apple thinks mounting a DMG as a volume is the same as installing an
application. Unless one knows to drag/drop the contents TO the APPS folder,
the program is GONE next reboot (not to mention it is a write-only
partition). An installer, which installs (like every other platform uses)
would be nice.

-Chipp
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Re: [OT] Building Mac Installers

2007-01-30 Thread Andre Garzia

Scott,

I assume you have the Developers Tools installed on your mac. There's  
an application called PackageMaker that is bundled with it. It allows  
you to build .pkg files with all the options you want including scripts.


a quote:

"You can bundle executable files within your package and  
Installer.app will run these executables during the install.  
Generally these files will be shell scripts."


Just launch it and look into the help file, everything is there!!!

Cheers
andre



On Jan 29, 2007, at 8:23 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:


Scott,

the installer must be a .pkg? can't you build a stack that is an  
installer and will execute the scripts and everything? it might be  
easier...


Andre

On Jan 29, 2007, at 8:03 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:


This is an off-topic request for anyone who has experience building
installers on the Mac platform that rely on scripts.  I received a  
request
from a client to build installers that need to do some condition  
checking
and be editable on the client's end, via text-editing a script or  
similar.
DMG drag-install is not an option due to file-checking needs, and  
packages

that charge per seat/year usage fees are not acceptable.

I came across a package called MacInstallerBuilder which looks  
promising,
but am wondering if any folks around here have other experience  
and/or

suggestions.  Please contact off-list.

Thanks & Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
W: http://www.tactilemedia.com


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Re: [OT] Building Mac Installers

2007-01-29 Thread Andre Garzia

Scott,

the installer must be a .pkg? can't you build a stack that is an  
installer and will execute the scripts and everything? it might be  
easier...


Andre

On Jan 29, 2007, at 8:03 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:


This is an off-topic request for anyone who has experience building
installers on the Mac platform that rely on scripts.  I received a  
request
from a client to build installers that need to do some condition  
checking
and be editable on the client's end, via text-editing a script or  
similar.
DMG drag-install is not an option due to file-checking needs, and  
packages

that charge per seat/year usage fees are not acceptable.

I came across a package called MacInstallerBuilder which looks  
promising,

but am wondering if any folks around here have other experience and/or
suggestions.  Please contact off-list.

Thanks & Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
-
E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
W: http://www.tactilemedia.com


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[OT] Building Mac Installers

2007-01-29 Thread Scott Rossi
This is an off-topic request for anyone who has experience building
installers on the Mac platform that rely on scripts.  I received a request
from a client to build installers that need to do some condition checking
and be editable on the client's end, via text-editing a script or similar.
DMG drag-install is not an option due to file-checking needs, and packages
that charge per seat/year usage fees are not acceptable.

I came across a package called MacInstallerBuilder which looks promising,
but am wondering if any folks around here have other experience and/or
suggestions.  Please contact off-list.

Thanks & Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
-
E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
W: http://www.tactilemedia.com


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