Re: 2 little questions

2005-03-04 Thread Wouter
This is what I needed.
Thank you very much Ken
Gr W.

On 04 Mar 2005, at 01:21, Ken Ray wrote:
On 3/3/05 5:24 PM, "Wouter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 03 Mar 2005, at 22:01, Ken Ray wrote:
What I meant was:  commandkey is the applekey on mac, equivalent on
windows is the windows key or startkey?
Well, I guess it depends on keyboards. Both of my keyboards are 
Logitech
wireless keyboards that have three keys to the left of the space bar,
labelled:

  Ctrl
  Start/Alt/Option
  Alt/(apple symbol)/(cloverleaf symbol)
Yes, I know, the two "alts" not withstanding, these generate the 
following
keys (note that in Windows they are generated automatically; in Mac 
the raw
keycodes for the modifier keys aren't generated until you type another 
key
and you get the raw keyCode for *that* key instead):

Windows
--
  Ctrl --> (65507) / controlKey is 'down'
  Start/Alt/Option --> (65388) / no modifier keys are down
  Alt/(apple symbol)/(cloverleaf symbol) --> (65513) / optionKey is 
'down'

Mac

  Ctrl --> controlKey is 'down'
  Start/Alt/Option --> optionKey is 'down'
  Alt/(apple symbol)/(cloverleaf symbol) --> commandKey is 'down'
HTH,
Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: 2 little questions

2005-03-03 Thread Ken Ray
On 3/3/05 5:24 PM, "Wouter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 03 Mar 2005, at 22:01, Ken Ray wrote:
> 
> What I meant was:  commandkey is the applekey on mac, equivalent on
> windows is the windows key or startkey?

Well, I guess it depends on keyboards. Both of my keyboards are Logitech
wireless keyboards that have three keys to the left of the space bar,
labelled:

  Ctrl
  Start/Alt/Option
  Alt/(apple symbol)/(cloverleaf symbol)

Yes, I know, the two "alts" not withstanding, these generate the following
keys (note that in Windows they are generated automatically; in Mac the raw
keycodes for the modifier keys aren't generated until you type another key
and you get the raw keyCode for *that* key instead):

Windows
--
  Ctrl --> (65507) / controlKey is 'down'
  Start/Alt/Option --> (65388) / no modifier keys are down
  Alt/(apple symbol)/(cloverleaf symbol) --> (65513) / optionKey is 'down'

Mac

  Ctrl --> controlKey is 'down'
  Start/Alt/Option --> optionKey is 'down'
  Alt/(apple symbol)/(cloverleaf symbol) --> commandKey is 'down'

HTH,


Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: 2 little questions

2005-03-03 Thread Wouter
On 03 Mar 2005, at 22:01, Ken Ray wrote:
On 3/3/05 3:44 AM, "Wouter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi All,
Two little questions:
1. in the transcript dictionary is stated:
- on unix and windows systems, the commandkey function returns the
same value as the controlkey function.
This can be verified in VPC.
But which is the value returned by the equivalent of the commandkey on
the mac in windows?
If you're talking about the key that is marked as the commandKey on a 
Mac
keyboard, this is actually the "alt" or "option" key in Windows, and 
returns
that the optionKey is down.
What I meant was:  commandkey is the applekey on mac, equivalent on 
windows is the windows key or startkey?
And which value has this key in a rawkeydown handler?65xxx or empty?

Thanks Ken for your response.
Gr W.
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Re: 2 little questions

2005-03-03 Thread Ken Ray
On 3/3/05 3:44 AM, "Wouter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> Two little questions:
> 
> 1. in the transcript dictionary is stated:
> - on unix and windows systems, the commandkey function returns the
> same value as the controlkey function.
> This can be verified in VPC.
> But which is the value returned by the equivalent of the commandkey on
> the mac in windows?

If you're talking about the key that is marked as the commandKey on a Mac
keyboard, this is actually the "alt" or "option" key in Windows, and returns
that the optionKey is down.


> 2. noticing a difference in behavior of buttons between platforms (one
> more :-):
>- a button with the traversalon set to true (default condition) will
> take the focus out of a field when activated by mouse in windows, but
> not so on mac.
> Which is correct behavior and which is preferable?

Well, it depends on what you want to do. Personally, I only remove the
traversalOn for buttons that need to act on the text of a selectedField (for
example if I had a button for "bold" that would embolden the selected text).


My 2 cents,

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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2 little questions

2005-03-03 Thread Wouter
Hi All,
Two little questions:
1. in the transcript dictionary is stated:
   - on unix and windows systems, the commandkey function returns the 
same value as the controlkey function.
This can be verified in VPC.
But which is the value returned by the equivalent of the commandkey on 
the mac in windows?
(because of the special assignment of the commandkey on the mac, this 
cannot be retrieved in VPC)

2. noticing a difference in behavior of buttons between platforms (one 
more :-):
  - a button with the traversalon set to true (default condition) will 
take the focus out of a field when activated by mouse in windows, but 
not so on mac.
Which is correct behavior and which is preferable?

TIA.
Greetings,
Wouter
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