Apache Server with RunRev stacks doing the processing?

2007-05-10 Thread Gil Dawson

Kee--

Are you still using acgidispatcher?  Are you using it on 10.4.9?

I just downloaded it and I'm having trouble getting it to work. 
Sentman's support page is broken and he's not answering my email, so 
I'm looking for confirmation that the problem isn't a broken in 
Tiger thing.


--Gil
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Re: Apache Server with RunRev stacks doing the processing?

2007-05-10 Thread kee nethery


On May 6, 2007, at 8:00 AM, Gil Dawson wrote:


Kee--

Are you still using acgidispatcher?


yes but I'm using an old version and I'm only using it on one  
Hypercard stack that responds to WebStar style AppleScript  
communications.

Are you using it on 10.4.9? yes.



I just downloaded it and I'm having trouble getting it to work.  
Sentman's support page is broken and he's not answering my email,  
so I'm looking for confirmation that the problem isn't a broken in  
Tiger thing.


I think it is a it is broken thing. We had to use an old version  
because the latest version didn't work for us.


My suggestion is to use Andre's RevHTTP stack and have that be the  
web server on a different port, bypass Apache. That works flawlessly  
and is a much longer term solution. We are moving away from  
acgidispatcher.


Kee


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Re: Apache Server with RunRev stacks doing the processing?

2005-11-20 Thread Glenn E. Fisher

Gordy,
Thanks for your post.  It works great on my old system G4 450 MHz OSX 
10.3.9.

It's post like this that is what it is all about.
Thanks again,
Glenn


OK, got a sample posted for you here:

http://homepage.mac.com/gordyt/FileSharing14.html

It's the one called rr_test.  After you download and extract it you 
will see two files:


rr.php
rr_backend.rev

Make sure you have enabled PHP on your Mac.  Very simple to do. PHP is 
already installed.  Put the rr.php file somewhere you can get to it 
with your browser, for example, in your ~/Sites folder.


Open the rr_backend.rev stack in RR and click the Start Listening 
button.


Then, using your web browser, load the rr.php file.  You can do it any 
number of ways.  For example, you can pass in arguments in the get 
string like this:


http://localhost/rr.php?name=gordonage=48location=humble

Or you can create another page with a form on it and have the form 
invoke the rr.php script.


This should get you started.  Both the php and the rr is very simple 
and you should be able to adapt it to any type of function that you 
need.


--gordy

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Re: Apache Server with RunRev stacks doing the processing?

2005-11-20 Thread Gordon Tillman

Glenn you are very welcome,

On Nov 20, 2005, at 08:17, Glenn E. Fisher wrote:


Gordy,
Thanks for your post.  It works great on my old system G4 450 MHz  
OSX 10.3.9.

It's post like this that is what it is all about.
Thanks again,
Glenn


Gotta tell ya: You take all the cool stuff that comes already  
installed in an OS X machine and combine that with RR being just drop- 
dead easy to use, there ain't no end to the things you can crank out...


--gordy
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Re: Apache Server with RunRev stacks doing the processing?

2005-11-20 Thread Pierre Sahores

Dear Kee,

Many Thanks for this all ! It's yet online, because your usefull  
rewritting and kind help. Let me know what you expect to build in  
using Rev's applications distibued apps. If some help in about  
detailled Tiger or Linux set-up can let you speed-up your  
deployments, just ask. I provided such kind of services before, even  
in configuring remote servers from ground in tunneled ssh2/admin mode.


We can realy hope that your work will help more of our XTalker's  
community to investigate the power of Rev in about rock-solid web and  
rich-media n-tier sockets driven apps.


The next steeps ? Going head in mixing AJAX  blog's front-end portals  
(DotClear is, there, a first class candidate tool), Rev application's  
servers, PostgreSQL, Ka-Map/Mapserver, DSS,... powerfull back-ends.


Kind Regards,
Pierre :-)


A partir du moment où on évolue dans une activité où il n'y a pas de  
place pour la fanfaronnade, on est obligé de tomber sur des  
personnages d'exception. Tous ces gens sont au limiteur. Pierre  
Dupasquier





On Nov 19, 2005, at 4:26 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote:


Hi Kee,

It would be very kind from you to provide such an english language  
version of this tutorial.


Attached

insead_en.zip
Be sure that i will update the site with your translation and  
personal credit if you decide to gohead with your project.


:-) I do not have the knowledge that you have so it is possible  
that I altered some text and changed it's meaning so that the words  
are now wrong. You might want someone else to read through it just  
to make sure I didn't harm what you were saying. It's OK if you  
want to say I harmed your words :-) but you do not have to.


I would really appreciate your help in making Revolution best  
wieved as a rock-solid alternative to best knowed n-tier  
professional-grade developpment solutions. As web application's  
server, Revolution let us fly around Tomcat's or JBoss based  
solutions successfully, even about security tasks (proxy apps),  
PostgreSQL access or the amount of supported connections/seconds.


I agree.
Thanks,
kee




Best Regards from the old Europ ;-)

Thank you for your web site. Would you mind if I edited the  
english language version and sent it back to you? It's a very  
good tutorial.

Kee Nethery


On Nov 19, 2005, at 6:54 AM, Pierre Sahores wrote:


Kee,

Perhaps would you be interested in having an eye on the tutorial  
i wrote sometimes ago about the subject you are querying about :


http://istream.homeunix.com/insead/index.html

All my apologies about the english-like issue ;-)

Regards,


Le 19 nov. 05 à 14:36, kee nethery a écrit :

I'm looking for a way to have an Apache server catch a request  
(will be using SOAP which is basically just a bunch of XML),  
feed it to a RunRev stack that I can debug using the RunRev  
development environment (ie not using a text file with XTalk in  
it), and then format a reply (more XML) and feed it back to the  
client that sent the request. I want to be able to watch the  
stack visually process the request so that I can step through  
the code as it processes a request and debug it quickly.


My preference is to run this on Mac OS X if that makes a  
difference and my preference is to use HTTPS as the transport  
method, not HTTP (which means I really do need to use Apache as  
the web server). Is anyone doing something like this OR does  
anyone have suggestions on how I might implement this.


I'm assuming I'd set up HTTPS on Apache to catch the SOAP  
requests if that is possible. The question is how do I transfer  
the data that Apache receives to a RunRev stack and then how do  
I send it back? I do this today with Hypercard using Jason  
Sendman's acgiDispatcher that feeds Apache gathered data via  
AppleScript to an application stack but if there is a more  
elegant way to do this without going through AppleScript, that  
would be better. The main thing is I want to retain the RunRev  
development environment so that I can quickly modify and  
troubleshoot the code.


Suggestions and links welcome. Be happy to pay someone to walk  
me through this setup if that gets me up and running quickly.


Kee Nethery

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Apache Server with RunRev stacks doing the processing?

2005-11-19 Thread kee nethery
I'm looking for a way to have an Apache server catch a request (will  
be using SOAP which is basically just a bunch of XML), feed it to a  
RunRev stack that I can debug using the RunRev development  
environment (ie not using a text file with XTalk in it), and then  
format a reply (more XML) and feed it back to the client that sent  
the request. I want to be able to watch the stack visually process  
the request so that I can step through the code as it processes a  
request and debug it quickly.


My preference is to run this on Mac OS X if that makes a difference  
and my preference is to use HTTPS as the transport method, not HTTP  
(which means I really do need to use Apache as the web server). Is  
anyone doing something like this OR does anyone have suggestions on  
how I might implement this.


I'm assuming I'd set up HTTPS on Apache to catch the SOAP requests if  
that is possible. The question is how do I transfer the data that  
Apache receives to a RunRev stack and then how do I send it back? I  
do this today with Hypercard using Jason Sendman's acgiDispatcher  
that feeds Apache gathered data via AppleScript to an application  
stack but if there is a more elegant way to do this without going  
through AppleScript, that would be better. The main thing is I want  
to retain the RunRev development environment so that I can quickly  
modify and troubleshoot the code.


Suggestions and links welcome. Be happy to pay someone to walk me  
through this setup if that gets me up and running quickly.


Kee Nethery

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Re: Apache Server with RunRev stacks doing the processing?

2005-11-19 Thread Gordon Tillman

Morning Kee,

On Nov 19, 2005, at 07:36, kee nethery wrote:

I'm looking for a way to have an Apache server catch a request  
(will be using SOAP which is basically just a bunch of XML), feed  
it to a RunRev stack that I can debug using the RunRev development  
environment (ie not using a text file with XTalk in it), and then  
format a reply (more XML) and feed it back to the client that sent  
the request. I want to be able to watch the stack visually process  
the request so that I can step through the code as it processes a  
request and debug it quickly.


My preference is to run this on Mac OS X if that makes a difference  
and my preference is to use HTTPS as the transport method, not HTTP  
(which means I really do need to use Apache as the web server). Is  
anyone doing something like this OR does anyone have suggestions on  
how I might implement this.


Here's an idea --

Have your RunRev stack listen on some socket.  Pick one above 1024 so  
you don't need to run it as root.  The write a simple php script that  
is called from Apache.  The php script can open a socket connection  
to the RunRev stack, send the information to the stack over that  
socket, and let the stack process the information.  The stack will  
then send the results back to the php script which can then return  
the information.


Depending on how long you plan on playing with the stack, debugging  
it and what not, you may need to turn up some timeout values in Apache.


--gordon

P.S. - If I get some time later today I will post a small sample for  
you.







I'm assuming I'd set up HTTPS on Apache to catch the SOAP requests  
if that is possible. The question is how do I transfer the data  
that Apache receives to a RunRev stack and then how do I send it  
back? I do this today with Hypercard using Jason Sendman's  
acgiDispatcher that feeds Apache gathered data via AppleScript to  
an application stack but if there is a more elegant way to do this  
without going through AppleScript, that would be better. The main  
thing is I want to retain the RunRev development environment so  
that I can quickly modify and troubleshoot the code.


Suggestions and links welcome. Be happy to pay someone to walk me  
through this setup if that gets me up and running quickly.


Kee Nethery

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Re: Apache Server with RunRev stacks doing the processing?

2005-11-19 Thread kee nethery


On Nov 19, 2005, at 5:48 AM, Gordon Tillman wrote:


Morning Kee,

On Nov 19, 2005, at 07:36, kee nethery wrote:

I'm looking for a way to have an Apache server catch a request  
(will be using SOAP which is basically just a bunch of XML), feed  
it to a RunRev stack that I can debug using the RunRev development  
environment (ie not using a text file with XTalk in it), and then  
format a reply (more XML) and feed it back to the client that sent  
the request. I want to be able to watch the stack visually process  
the request so that I can step through the code as it processes a  
request and debug it quickly.


My preference is to run this on Mac OS X if that makes a  
difference and my preference is to use HTTPS as the transport  
method, not HTTP (which means I really do need to use Apache as  
the web server). Is anyone doing something like this OR does  
anyone have suggestions on how I might implement this.


Here's an idea --

Have your RunRev stack listen on some socket.  Pick one above 1024  
so you don't need to run it as root.  The write a simple php script  
that is called from Apache.  The php script can open a socket  
connection to the RunRev stack, send the information to the stack  
over that socket, and let the stack process the information.  The  
stack will then send the results back to the php script which can  
then return the information.


Depending on how long you plan on playing with the stack, debugging  
it and what not, you may need to turn up some timeout values in  
Apache.


Excellent Idea, simple, elegant, I like it.



--gordon

P.S. - If I get some time later today I will post a small sample  
for you.


Yes please. Thanks.

Kee









I'm assuming I'd set up HTTPS on Apache to catch the SOAP requests  
if that is possible. The question is how do I transfer the data  
that Apache receives to a RunRev stack and then how do I send it  
back? I do this today with Hypercard using Jason Sendman's  
acgiDispatcher that feeds Apache gathered data via AppleScript to  
an application stack but if there is a more elegant way to do this  
without going through AppleScript, that would be better. The main  
thing is I want to retain the RunRev development environment so  
that I can quickly modify and troubleshoot the code.


Suggestions and links welcome. Be happy to pay someone to walk me  
through this setup if that gets me up and running quickly.


Kee Nethery

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Re: Apache Server with RunRev stacks doing the processing?

2005-11-19 Thread Pierre Sahores

Kee,

Perhaps would you be interested in having an eye on the tutorial i  
wrote sometimes ago about the subject you are querying about :


http://istream.homeunix.com/insead/index.html

All my apologies about the english-like issue ;-)

Regards,


Le 19 nov. 05 à 14:36, kee nethery a écrit :

I'm looking for a way to have an Apache server catch a request  
(will be using SOAP which is basically just a bunch of XML), feed  
it to a RunRev stack that I can debug using the RunRev development  
environment (ie not using a text file with XTalk in it), and then  
format a reply (more XML) and feed it back to the client that sent  
the request. I want to be able to watch the stack visually process  
the request so that I can step through the code as it processes a  
request and debug it quickly.


My preference is to run this on Mac OS X if that makes a difference  
and my preference is to use HTTPS as the transport method, not HTTP  
(which means I really do need to use Apache as the web server). Is  
anyone doing something like this OR does anyone have suggestions on  
how I might implement this.


I'm assuming I'd set up HTTPS on Apache to catch the SOAP requests  
if that is possible. The question is how do I transfer the data  
that Apache receives to a RunRev stack and then how do I send it  
back? I do this today with Hypercard using Jason Sendman's  
acgiDispatcher that feeds Apache gathered data via AppleScript to  
an application stack but if there is a more elegant way to do this  
without going through AppleScript, that would be better. The main  
thing is I want to retain the RunRev development environment so  
that I can quickly modify and troubleshoot the code.


Suggestions and links welcome. Be happy to pay someone to walk me  
through this setup if that gets me up and running quickly.


Kee Nethery

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Re: Apache Server with RunRev stacks doing the processing?

2005-11-19 Thread Gordon Tillman

Howdy Kee,


On Nov 19, 2005, at 08:52, kee nethery wrote:

P.S. - If I get some time later today I will post a small sample  
for you.


Yes please. Thanks.

Kee


OK, got a sample posted for you here:

http://homepage.mac.com/gordyt/FileSharing14.html

It's the one called rr_test.  After you download and extract it you  
will see two files:


rr.php
rr_backend.rev

Make sure you have enabled PHP on your Mac.  Very simple to do. PHP  
is already installed.  Put the rr.php file somewhere you can get to  
it with your browser, for example, in your ~/Sites folder.


Open the rr_backend.rev stack in RR and click the Start Listening  
button.


Then, using your web browser, load the rr.php file.  You can do it  
any number of ways.  For example, you can pass in arguments in the  
get string like this:


http://localhost/rr.php?name=gordonage=48location=humble

Or you can create another page with a form on it and have the form  
invoke the rr.php script.


This should get you started.  Both the php and the rr is very simple  
and you should be able to adapt it to any type of function that you  
need.


--gordy

P.S. - holler if questions
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Re: Apache Server with RunRev stacks doing the processing?

2005-11-19 Thread kee nethery

Gordon,

This is working. I've sent it data and received data back. Way cool,  
thanks.


I tried my Rev SOAP client and it looks like I'll need to experiment  
to extract the data from the SOAP data that gets sent, but this is an  
excellent start! Thank you.


Kee



On Nov 19, 2005, at 8:17 AM, Gordon Tillman wrote:


Howdy Kee,


On Nov 19, 2005, at 08:52, kee nethery wrote:

P.S. - If I get some time later today I will post a small sample  
for you.


Yes please. Thanks.

Kee


OK, got a sample posted for you here:

http://homepage.mac.com/gordyt/FileSharing14.html

It's the one called rr_test.  After you download and extract it you  
will see two files:


rr.php
rr_backend.rev

Make sure you have enabled PHP on your Mac.  Very simple to do. PHP  
is already installed.  Put the rr.php file somewhere you can get to  
it with your browser, for example, in your ~/Sites folder.


Open the rr_backend.rev stack in RR and click the Start Listening  
button.


Then, using your web browser, load the rr.php file.  You can do it  
any number of ways.  For example, you can pass in arguments in the  
get string like this:


http://localhost/rr.php?name=gordonage=48location=humble

Or you can create another page with a form on it and have the form  
invoke the rr.php script.


This should get you started.  Both the php and the rr is very  
simple and you should be able to adapt it to any type of function  
that you need.


--gordy

P.S. - holler if questions
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