Apple: 100 good reasons for revMobile

2010-05-11 Thread andr...@medone.ch
I think we should tell Apple what we think. Perhaps someone knows where to 
write our ideas?
Found the following Link:
http://developer.apple.com/contact/

Maybe, there is a better one?

If all Rev users stand together - how many statements would we get?
My mother tongue is swiss-german - there are others here, writting much better 
than I do!

So - hey!  What do you think? Should we start a campaign?
We could also collect adresses on a website?
Perhaps on runrev.com ?

Best regards

Andreas Stämpfli


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Re: Apple: 100 good reasons for revMobile

2010-05-11 Thread René Micout
We risk nothing to try ...
In principle I agree, but with the reasons given by Apple (which I understand 
very well even if it does not suit me) I do not think it serve for something.
Several years ago when Apple dropped (quietly) HyperCard, I wrote a long letter 
to Steve Jobs (a dozen pages with screenshots of the applications that I do 
[they had a very professional look] ) and since I'm waiting for an answer ...
;-)
Bon souvenir de Paris
René

Le 11 mai 2010 à 11:01, andr...@medone.ch a écrit :

 I think we should tell Apple what we think. Perhaps someone knows where to 
 write our ideas?
 Found the following Link:
 http://developer.apple.com/contact/
 
 Maybe, there is a better one?
 
 If all Rev users stand together - how many statements would we get?
 My mother tongue is swiss-german - there are others here, writting much 
 better than I do!
 
 So - hey!  What do you think? Should we start a campaign?
 We could also collect adresses on a website?
 Perhaps on runrev.com ?
 
 Best regards
 
 Andreas Stämpfli
 
 
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Re: Apple: 100 good reasons for revMobile

2010-05-11 Thread Kevin Miller
On 11/05/2010 17:57, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:

 I submitted my 2 cents. Just a note here, it will not serve us well to use
 this as an opportunity to flame Apple or Steve Jobs. Please keep your posts
 civilized and hopeful.

I certainly wouldn't want to see people flame Apple or Steve Jobs. If you
have some constructive feedback for him I'm sure there would be no harm
sending it. Lets keep it professional.

Kind regards,

Kevin

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Re: Apple: 100 good reasons for revMobile

2010-05-11 Thread Jonathan Lynch
Kevin,

What was Apple's tone in their rejection?

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Kevin Miller ke...@runrev.com wrote:

 On 11/05/2010 17:57, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:

  I submitted my 2 cents. Just a note here, it will not serve us well to
 use
  this as an opportunity to flame Apple or Steve Jobs. Please keep your
 posts
  civilized and hopeful.

 I certainly wouldn't want to see people flame Apple or Steve Jobs. If you
 have some constructive feedback for him I'm sure there would be no harm
 sending it. Lets keep it professional.

 Kind regards,

 Kevin

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 RunRev - Software construction for everyone


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Re: Apple: 100 good reasons for revMobile

2010-05-11 Thread François Chaplais

Le 11 mai 2010 à 19:11, Kevin Miller a écrit :

 On 11/05/2010 17:57, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:
 
 I submitted my 2 cents. Just a note here, it will not serve us well to use
 this as an opportunity to flame Apple or Steve Jobs. Please keep your posts
 civilized and hopeful.
 
 I certainly wouldn't want to see people flame Apple or Steve Jobs. If you
 have some constructive feedback for him I'm sure there would be no harm
 sending it. Lets keep it professional.
 
 Kind regards,
 
 Kevin
 
 Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/
 RunRev - Software construction for everyone
 
 
Right.

I have read many things bad about Apple on this list. I, personally, do not 
resent Apple for the decision they made. I very much understand Apple's point 
of view and the fact that they value very much their independence. This is the 
same attachment to independence, I feel, that have lead some people to react so 
strongly to Apple's decision. Well, conflicts of interest are not new.

Please stop these post Beware Apple; I am going to develop for android. As 
far as I am concerned, I have heard the message. I guess everybody who has read 
the list last week got the message. And my mother has strictly forbidden me to 
express my opinion on android and related Google ventures.

Retrospectively, I'd rather have kept the 700€ I spent on revMobile to buy what 
is soon to be my iPad. But, at the time, revMobile for the iPhone had me 
convinced, and I do not regret supporting runrev on this opportunity. Well, you 
can't win them all.

I am happy to learn that runrev will pay some attention to field formatting and 
perhaps an a number of request that are pending at qacenter.

Best regards,
François

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Re: Apple: 100 good reasons for revMobile

2010-05-11 Thread Alex Adams
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 From: François Chaplais francois.chapl...@mines-paristech.fr
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 Subject: Re: Apple: 100 good reasons for revMobile
 
 
 Le 11 mai 2010 à 19:11, Kevin Miller a écrit :
 
 On 11/05/2010 17:57, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:
 
 I submitted my 2 cents. Just a note here, it will not serve us well to use
 this as an opportunity to flame Apple or Steve Jobs. Please keep your posts
 civilized and hopeful.
 
 I certainly wouldn't want to see people flame Apple or Steve Jobs. If you
 have some constructive feedback for him I'm sure there would be no harm
 sending it. Lets keep it professional.
 
 Kind regards,
 
 Kevin
 
 Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/
 RunRev - Software construction for everyone
 
 
 Right.
 
 I have read many things bad about Apple on this list. I, personally, do not
 resent Apple for the decision they made. I very much understand Apple's point
 of view and the fact that they value very much their independence. This is the
 same attachment to independence, I feel, that have lead some people to react
 so strongly to Apple's decision. Well, conflicts of interest are not new.
 
 Please stop these post Beware Apple; I am going to develop for android. As
 far as I am concerned, I have heard the message. I guess everybody who has
 read the list last week got the message. And my mother has strictly forbidden
 me to express my opinion on android and related Google ventures.
 
 Retrospectively, I'd rather have kept the 700€ I spent on revMobile to buy
 what is soon to be my iPad. But, at the time, revMobile for the iPhone had me
 convinced, and I do not regret supporting runrev on this opportunity. Well,
 you can't win them all.
 
 I am happy to learn that runrev will pay some attention to field formatting
 and perhaps an a number of request that are pending at qacenter.
 
 Best regards,
 François
 
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Re: Apple: 100 good reasons for revMobile

2010-05-11 Thread Bob Sneidar
I will only say as I have before, if someone doesn't like a particular thread, 
they don't have to read it. I understand your frustration, but telling someone 
to not to post so you don't have to see it is, well... silly.

Bob


 Right.
 
 I have read many things bad about Apple on this list. I, personally, do not 
 resent Apple for the decision they made. I very much understand Apple's point 
 of view and the fact that they value very much their independence. This is 
 the same attachment to independence, I feel, that have lead some people to 
 react so strongly to Apple's decision. Well, conflicts of interest are not 
 new.
 
 Please stop these post Beware Apple; I am going to develop for android. As 
 far as I am concerned, I have heard the message. I guess everybody who has 
 read the list last week got the message. And my mother has strictly forbidden 
 me to express my opinion on android and related Google ventures.
 
 Retrospectively, I'd rather have kept the 700€ I spent on revMobile to buy 
 what is soon to be my iPad. But, at the time, revMobile for the iPhone had me 
 convinced, and I do not regret supporting runrev on this opportunity. Well, 
 you can't win them all.
 
 I am happy to learn that runrev will pay some attention to field formatting 
 and perhaps an a number of request that are pending at qacenter.
 
 Best regards,
   François
 
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Re: Apple: 100 good reasons for revMobile

2010-05-11 Thread François Chaplais

Le 11 mai 2010 à 21:03, Bob Sneidar a écrit :

 I will only say as I have before, if someone doesn't like a particular 
 thread, they don't have to read it. I understand your frustration, but 
 telling someone to not to post so you don't have to see it is, well... silly.
 
 Bob
 
Of course. I did not even read your post.
This very post will self destruct in five seconds. 

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Re: Apple: 100 good reasons for revMobile

2010-05-11 Thread stephen barncard
Just hit delete is like saying opt-out. The noise level does get high
here, and that's the reason for the complaints. This is not a forum, it's a
linear mail list - like a freeway on-ramp - one at a time, and it does
requires a bit more netiquette, like trimming posts and keeping down the OT.

On 11 May 2010 12:03, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:

 I will only say as I have before, if someone doesn't like a particular
 thread, they don't have to read it. I understand your frustration, but
 telling someone to not to post so you don't have to see it is, well...
 silly.

 Bob


  Right.
 
  I have read many things bad about Apple on this list. I, personally, do
 not resent Apple for the decision they made. I very much understand Apple's
 point of view and the fact that they value very much their independence.
 This is the same attachment to independence, I feel, that have lead some
 people to react so strongly to Apple's decision. Well, conflicts of interest
 are not new.
 
  Please stop these post Beware Apple; I am going to develop for android.
 As far as I am concerned, I have heard the message. I guess everybody who
 has read the list last week got the message. And my mother has strictly
 forbidden me to express my opinion on android and related Google ventures.
 
  Retrospectively, I'd rather have kept the 700€ I spent on revMobile to
 buy what is soon to be my iPad. But, at the time, revMobile for the iPhone
 had me convinced, and I do not regret supporting runrev on this opportunity.
 Well, you can't win them all.
 
  I am happy to learn that runrev will pay some attention to field
 formatting and perhaps an a number of request that are pending at qacenter.
 
  Best regards,
François
 
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Re: Apple: 100 good reasons for revMobile

2010-05-11 Thread Matthias Rebbe
I 100% agree.

Matthias
Am 11.05.2010 um 21:21 schrieb stephen barncard:

 Just hit delete is like saying opt-out. The noise level does get high
 here, and that's the reason for the complaints. This is not a forum, it's a
 linear mail list - like a freeway on-ramp - one at a time, and it does
 requires a bit more netiquette, like trimming posts and keeping down the OT.
 
 On 11 May 2010 12:03, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:
 
 I will only say as I have before, if someone doesn't like a particular
 thread, they don't have to read it. I understand your frustration, but
 telling someone to not to post so you don't have to see it is, well...
 silly.
 
 Bob
 
 
 Right.
 
 I have read many things bad about Apple on this list. I, personally, do
 not resent Apple for the decision they made. I very much understand Apple's
 point of view and the fact that they value very much their independence.
 This is the same attachment to independence, I feel, that have lead some
 people to react so strongly to Apple's decision. Well, conflicts of interest
 are not new.
 
 Please stop these post Beware Apple; I am going to develop for android.
 As far as I am concerned, I have heard the message. I guess everybody who
 has read the list last week got the message. And my mother has strictly
 forbidden me to express my opinion on android and related Google ventures.
 
 Retrospectively, I'd rather have kept the 700€ I spent on revMobile to
 buy what is soon to be my iPad. But, at the time, revMobile for the iPhone
 had me convinced, and I do not regret supporting runrev on this opportunity.
 Well, you can't win them all.
 
 I am happy to learn that runrev will pay some attention to field
 formatting and perhaps an a number of request that are pending at qacenter.
 
 Best regards,
  François
 
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Re: Apple: 100 good reasons for revMobile

2010-05-11 Thread Richmond Mathewson

 On 11/05/2010 22:37, Matthias Rebbe wrote:

I 100% agree.

Matthias
Am 11.05.2010 um 21:21 schrieb stephen barncard:


Just hit delete is like saying opt-out. The noise level does get high
here, and that's the reason for the complaints. This is not a forum, it's a
linear mail list - like a freeway on-ramp - one at a time, and it does
requires a bit more netiquette, like trimming posts and keeping down the OT.



I don't think keeping down the OT is necessary, unless it is so 
tangential no-one
can make any connexion with RunRev. However it would be good if 
everybody flagged
their OT remarks with [OT] so that 'strict types' can filter it out and 
eat a fat free diet . . .  :)


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