Re: Bug? Rev app creates invisible files?
I can verify this with a lot more frequency (finder bug): in fact the immediate "non-appearance" of files in the finder has become so common place in my work flows that I no longer regard it as a problem... I think of it more like it's a little kid who is hiding behind the bushes for a bit, but will come out when he gets tired of not getting attention... photoshop batch processing, Indesign Creo/Kodak Postscript exports, Distiller hot folders driving PDF generation... processing AIFF to ACC in itunes...Version Cue etc. output is very often invisible until the finder "snaps out of it..." ...then all the kids show up... this happens locally and more "egregiously" over the network on mounted volumes--which is more understandable, but none the less disconcerting for some. Blink, "Gee! it didn't work... (I get a support call..) Oh Wait! never mind, its there now...sorry to bother you..." Richard Gaskin wrote: FWIW, I have seen some rare cases where new files on the Desktop aren't visible in OS X, and I've found I can make them visible by "tickling" the Finder by trying to create either another file or a folder with the same name -- then the Finder will give me "That name is already used" warning, and the previously invisible file becomes visible. But I can't recall which programs I've seen this with. Maybe it was just Rev/MC, but I believe this has also happened with a couple others. It's been very rare, and I haven't been able to come up with a recipe for reproducing it reliably. Whatever the cause, I believe this is a bug in the Finder rather than Rev. I could be wrong; if it was limited to just Rev maybe there's something about the way they're using the API that isn't kosher. But I suspect if that were the case the problem would be more consistently evident, and in my experience it's very, very rare (may three times over as many years). ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bug? Rev app creates invisible files?
Thanks Jacque. Good idea.
J. Landman Gay wrote:
Phil Davis wrote:
After thinking about it some more, I agree with your conclusions. I
think I'll ignore it for now since it isn't a show-stopper, and see
if moving to 10.5 changes the experience.
I have seen lagging Finder updates too, especially when building apps,
where the icons don't always update. I use the "touch" shell command
to wake up the Finder, which generally works:
get shell("touch -f" && tFilePath)
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Re: Bug? Rev app creates invisible files?
Phil Davis wrote:
After thinking about it some more, I agree with your conclusions. I
think I'll ignore it for now since it isn't a show-stopper, and see if
moving to 10.5 changes the experience.
I have seen lagging Finder updates too, especially when building apps,
where the icons don't always update. I use the "touch" shell command to
wake up the Finder, which generally works:
get shell("touch -f" && tFilePath)
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Re: Bug? Rev app creates invisible files?
After thinking about it some more, I agree with your conclusions. I think I'll ignore it for now since it isn't a show-stopper, and see if moving to 10.5 changes the experience. Thanks Richard. Richard Gaskin wrote: FWIW, I have seen some rare cases where new files on the Desktop aren't visible in OS X, and I've found I can make them visible by "tickling" the Finder by trying to create either another file or a folder with the same name -- then the Finder will give me "That name is already used" warning, and the previously invisible file becomes visible. But I can't recall which programs I've seen this with. Maybe it was just Rev/MC, but I believe this has also happened with a couple others. It's been very rare, and I haven't been able to come up with a recipe for reproducing it reliably. Whatever the cause, I believe this is a bug in the Finder rather than Rev. I could be wrong; if it was limited to just Rev maybe there's something about the way they're using the API that isn't kosher. But I suspect if that were the case the problem would be more consistently evident, and in my experience it's very, very rare (may three times over as many years). -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional Software Development http://pdslabs.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bug? Rev app creates invisible files?
FWIW, I have seen some rare cases where new files on the Desktop aren't visible in OS X, and I've found I can make them visible by "tickling" the Finder by trying to create either another file or a folder with the same name -- then the Finder will give me "That name is already used" warning, and the previously invisible file becomes visible. But I can't recall which programs I've seen this with. Maybe it was just Rev/MC, but I believe this has also happened with a couple others. It's been very rare, and I haven't been able to come up with a recipe for reproducing it reliably. Whatever the cause, I believe this is a bug in the Finder rather than Rev. I could be wrong; if it was limited to just Rev maybe there's something about the way they're using the API that isn't kosher. But I suspect if that were the case the problem would be more consistently evident, and in my experience it's very, very rare (may three times over as many years). -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bug? Rev app creates invisible files?
Hmmm. Thanks Jim.
Phil
OSX 10.4.11
Intel mini
Rev 2.9.0 build 610
Jim Sims wrote:
On Apr 10, 2008, at 8:03 PM, Phil Davis wrote:
The phenomenon is not limited to files created with
libUrlDownloadToFile. It also happens when my app script puts test
data into url ("file:" & someFileName). The new text file is
invisible from the desktop.
I just made a btn that has:
on mouseUp
put "BOB" into URL "file:1950BOB.txt"
end mouseUp
The file is visible.
OS X 10.5.2
PowerPC G4
Rev 2.9.0 build 610
sims
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Re: Bug? Rev app creates invisible files?
On Apr 10, 2008, at 8:03 PM, Phil Davis wrote:
The phenomenon is not limited to files created with
libUrlDownloadToFile. It also happens when my app script puts test
data into url ("file:" & someFileName). The new text file is
invisible from the desktop.
I just made a btn that has:
on mouseUp
put "BOB" into URL "file:1950BOB.txt"
end mouseUp
The file is visible.
OS X 10.5.2
PowerPC G4
Rev 2.9.0 build 610
sims
ClipaSearch Pro
http://www.ClipaTools.com
Across Platforms - Code and Culture
http://www.ezpzapps.com/blog/
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Re: Bug? Rev app creates invisible files?
Ian Wood wrote:
On 10 Apr 2008, at 19:03, Phil Davis wrote:
The phenomenon is not limited to files created with
libUrlDownloadToFile. It also happens when my app script puts test
data into url ("file:" & someFileName). The new text file is
invisible from the desktop.
Is there any chance that the file name starts with a period?
Nope. None.
Ian
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Re: Bug? Rev app creates invisible files?
On 10 Apr 2008, at 19:03, Phil Davis wrote:
The phenomenon is not limited to files created with
libUrlDownloadToFile. It also happens when my app script puts test
data into url ("file:" & someFileName). The new text file is
invisible from the desktop.
Is there any chance that the file name starts with a period?
Ian
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Bug? Rev app creates invisible files?
Has anyone else run into this with 2.9? Have you already BZ'd it?
I maintain an app that has an auto-update feature. It uses
libUrlDownloadToFile to download files from a server under temp names;
then it renames them to their correct names, replacing older files by
those same names.
The process works perfectly with the 2.8.1 engine (Mac & Win
standalones, Mac IDE) but not with 2.9.0 (tested in Mac IDE only). In
2.9.0 the newly downloaded & renamed files are invisible from the
Desktop! But they are there - my app couldn't start up without them.
I was able to make them visible by locating them on my local computer
with Interarchy and selecting "Reveal in Finder". That made them visible
from the desktop one by one as I selected them that way.
The phenomenon is not limited to files created with
libUrlDownloadToFile. It also happens when my app script puts test data
into url ("file:" & someFileName). The new text file is invisible from
the desktop.
Thanks everyone -
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