Re: Can a substack icon in a standalone be rendered invisible?
Couldn't have said it any better! Thanks Jacque! J. Landman Gay wrote: The stack file can be stored anywhere; same folder, inside an OS X app bundle, different folder, different volume, doesn't matter, just so it is an independent file that is separate from the app. The standalone builder automates the process of removing the substack and making it a separate file. However, you don't need to use this feature, which is what I think Chipp is refering to. Just keep the data stack as a separate file all through development and then you don't need to dis-incorporate it when you build; it is already separate. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Can a substack icon in a standalone be rendered invisible?
Dan Shafer wrote: Chipp.. On Aug 17, 2005, at 5:26 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: If I were you, I'd just not include the subStack in the Standalone build process, then just open it when you need if from your standalone. I think this is unclear, at least it is to me. I am under the impression that if you want to use a stack as data storage in a Rev app, you *must* include it in the standalone and have the substack in which you wish to store data in a separate folder. I can't tell precisely what you're suggesting here. Can you elucidate? I never use the 'put substacks in separate folders' feature of standalone builder. But is it not the case that if you *don't* put these substacks in a separate folder, you *can't* change their contents dynamically during program execution? The only requirement for a stack that saves data is that it not be a substack of the application file on disk. It must be in its own file. The stack file can be stored anywhere; same folder, inside an OS X app bundle, different folder, different volume, doesn't matter, just so it is an independent file that is separate from the app. The standalone builder automates the process of removing the substack and making it a separate file. However, you don't need to use this feature, which is what I think Chipp is refering to. Just keep the data stack as a separate file all through development and then you don't need to dis-incorporate it when you build; it is already separate. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Can a substack icon in a standalone be rendered invisible?
Chipp.. On Aug 17, 2005, at 5:26 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: If I were you, I'd just not include the subStack in the Standalone build process, then just open it when you need if from your standalone. I think this is unclear, at least it is to me. I am under the impression that if you want to use a stack as data storage in a Rev app, you *must* include it in the standalone and have the substack in which you wish to store data in a separate folder. I can't tell precisely what you're suggesting here. Can you elucidate? I never use the 'put substacks in separate folders' feature of standalone builder. But is it not the case that if you *don't* put these substacks in a separate folder, you *can't* change their contents dynamically during program execution? ~~ Dan Shafer, Revolution Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, "Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought" From http://www.revolutionpros.com, Click "My Stuff" ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Can a substack icon in a standalone be rendered invisible?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once again I'd like to approach the great minds on the Revolution forum. Hopefully, someone can offer a suggestion for the following issue: I used Revolution in Mac OS X to create a standalone in which I'd like the user to be able to save data. Since standalone's do not normally save data, I included a substack and checked off the "Move substacks into individual stackfiles" checkbox in the File Standalone settings. This works fine, except that the standalones for Windows and for Mac OS 9 show the substack on the hard drive. (The standalone for OS X is no problem since it is built as a single icon) I'm concerned that the presence of two icons on Windows and OS 9 may confuse the user, since it may not be obvious which icon to click on, the mainstack icon or the substack icon. Is there a way in which the substack icon can be made invisible in both the Windows and OS 9 versions? I tried putting the substack in a separate folder by checking off the "Create folder for stackfiles" option in the Standalone Application Settings, to get the substack out of view. Also, I renamed the substack to something utterly boring that would not induce the reader to click on it. (I tried checking off the "Rename stackfiles generically" option but this caused an error message in trying to save as a standalone). It would be nice if the substack icon could just be invisible. Is this possible? Not automatically, I don't think, but after the build it is pretty easy to just change the visibility manually. In Windows you can do it in the stack's Properties setttings. On OS 9 you'll need something like ResEdit or another utility to do it. You'd have to use an installer, or else stress that the user should copy the entire folder over to the hard drive. Otherwise the invisible files wouldn't get copied. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Can a substack icon in a standalone be rendered invisible?
Hi Steve, If I were you, I'd just not include the subStack in the Standalone build process, then just open it when you need if from your standalone. I never use the 'put substacks in separate folders' feature of standalone builder. My substacks are always either libraries, or special biz logic windows, never data storage stacks. IMO, it's important to keep content and biz logic separate, which is about 180 degrees off of what standard card based stack databases do. When you mix them both, you risk a whole new level of possible bugs which can be introduced. You can always get the filepath to the standalone by using the address function. best, Chipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once again I'd like to approach the great minds on the Revolution forum. Hopefully, someone can offer a suggestion for the following issue: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I used Revolution in Mac OS X to create a standalone in which I'd like the user to be able to save data. Since standalone's do not normally save data, I included a substack and checked off the "Move substacks into individual stackfiles" checkbox in the File Standalone settings. This works fine, except that the standalones for Windows and for Mac OS 9 show the substack on the hard drive. (The standalone for OS X is no problem since it is built as a single icon) I'm concerned that the presence of two icons on Windows and OS 9 may confuse the user, since it may not be obvious which icon to click on, the mainstack icon or the substack icon. Is there a way in which the substack icon can be made invisible in both the Windows and OS 9 versions? I tried putting the substack in a separate folder by checking off the "Create folder for stackfiles" option in the Standalone Application Settings, to get the substack out of view. Also, I renamed the substack to something utterly boring that would not induce the reader to click on it. (I tried checking off the "Rename stackfiles generically" option but this caused an error message in trying to save as a standalone). It would be nice if the substack icon could just be invisible. Is this possible? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Can a substack icon in a standalone be rendered invisible?
Once again I'd like to approach the great minds on the Revolution forum. Hopefully, someone can offer a suggestion for the following issue: I used Revolution in Mac OS X to create a standalone in which I'd like the user to be able to save data. Since standalone's do not normally save data, I included a substack and checked off the "Move substacks into individual stackfiles" checkbox in the File Standalone settings. This works fine, except that the standalones for Windows and for Mac OS 9 show the substack on the hard drive. (The standalone for OS X is no problem since it is built as a single icon) I'm concerned that the presence of two icons on Windows and OS 9 may confuse the user, since it may not be obvious which icon to click on, the mainstack icon or the substack icon. Is there a way in which the substack icon can be made invisible in both the Windows and OS 9 versions? I tried putting the substack in a separate folder by checking off the "Create folder for stackfiles" option in the Standalone Application Settings, to get the substack out of view. Also, I renamed the substack to something utterly boring that would not induce the reader to click on it. (I tried checking off the "Rename stackfiles generically" option but this caused an error message in trying to save as a standalone). It would be nice if the substack icon could just be invisible. Is this possible? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
