Re: Conference DVDs: Design principles
Am 18.11.2008 um 22:39 schrieb Thomas McGrath III: I want to own a part of Malte too!!! Naughty Boy! Tom :-) Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Conference DVDs: Design principles
--- Malte Brill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom wrote: I want to own a part of Malte too!!! Lol. I have an arm and a leg I do not use at the moment. Would that help? Cheers, Malte I was already grateful nobody said I want to eat Malte, just to possess his powers! - and now he's offering limbs to the gastronomically curious. *grin* Jan Schenkel. PS: one can never watch too many Lewis Black and George Carlin videos... Quartam Reports PDF Library for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Conference DVDs: Design principles
LOL. On Nov 19, 2008, at 6:26 AM, Jan Schenkel wrote: --- Malte Brill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom wrote: I want to own a part of Malte too!!! Lol. I have an arm and a leg I do not use at the moment. Would that help? Cheers, Malte I was already grateful nobody said I want to eat Malte, just to possess his powers! - and now he's offering limbs to the gastronomically curious. *grin* Jan Schenkel. PS: one can never watch too many Lewis Black and George Carlin videos... Quartam Reports PDF Library for Revolution http://www.quartam.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Conference DVDs: Design principles
Malte- Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 11:35:55 PM, you wrote: Lol. I have an arm and a leg I do not use at the moment. Would that help? Yes. I have a plumbing application coming up where an extra hand would be quite useful. Thanks for the offer. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Conference DVDs: Design principles
Ha Ha Ha, And I could really use a 'leg up' in this company I work for. Interesting!!! Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software [EMAIL PROTECTED] iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html On Nov 19, 2008, at 12:10 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Malte- Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 11:35:55 PM, you wrote: Lol. I have an arm and a leg I do not use at the moment. Would that help? Yes. I have a plumbing application coming up where an extra hand would be quite useful. Thanks for the offer. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Conference DVDs: Design principles
I am glad no one wants to get ahead in their company! Neal Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux (540) 242 0911 - Try Spot for OS X, the intelligent DXCluster Client at www.abrohamnealsoftware.com - $15.99 - For a great dog book, visit www.abrohamneal.com - See the FlexRadio Systems Flex-5000a in action at www.flex-videos.com On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha Ha Ha, And I could really use a 'leg up' in this company I work for. Interesting!!! Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software [EMAIL PROTECTED] iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html On Nov 19, 2008, at 12:10 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Malte- Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 11:35:55 PM, you wrote: Lol. I have an arm and a leg I do not use at the moment. Would that help? Yes. I have a plumbing application coming up where an extra hand would be quite useful. Thanks for the offer. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Conference DVDs: Design principles
Neal Campbell wrote: I am glad no one wants to get ahead in their company! I could use a shoulder to cry on. Pretty soon there will be nothing left of poor Malte. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Conference DVDs: Design principles
I really liked your comments, it reassured me that I made the right decision in not buying the DVD, but instead going there myself ;-) Of course it was a pleasure to present a small part of Scott's presentation, but the Audio had to be recorded again, which I did from my home after not talking English since weeks, and a few months after the actual conference. So excuse the bad non-contextual, bumpy and rambling nonsense I deliver there... Just a small error correction: Please note that Animation Engine is owned and developed by Malte Brill, not by me, despite me saying I'll get a cut every time it's sold (I own a part of Malte, so to say). Have fun Björnke On 18 Nov 2008, at 01:24, Wilhelm Sanke wrote: In one part of the disks Björnke von Gierke presents his Animation Engine, but unfortunately never appears in person, he is only allowed to talk from the off. -- official ChatRev page: http://bjoernke.com/runrev/chatrev.php Chat with other RunRev developers: go stack URL http://bjoernke.com/stacks/chatrev/chatrev1.3b3.rev; ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Conference DVDs: Design principles
I want to own a part of Malte too!!! Tom On Nov 18, 2008, at 4:32 PM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: Just a small error correction: Please note that Animation Engine is owned and developed by Malte Brill, not by me, despite me saying I'll get a cut every time it's sold (I own a part of Malte, so to say). ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Conference DVDs: Design principles
Tom wrote: I want to own a part of Malte too!!! Lol. I have an arm and a leg I do not use at the moment. Would that help? Cheers, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Conference DVDs: Design principles
Just received the Conference DVDs along with some accompanying materials and I might give some feedback on the basis of my first and still incomplete impressions. First of all, it is surely an interesting experience to see and watch some of the chosen Revolution protagonists in action. It adds to and possibly corrects the pictures that have slowly developed in your mind over time while reading their contributions on the Rev lists. In one part of the disks Björnke von Gierke presents his Animation Engine, but unfortunately never appears in person, he is only allowed to talk from the off. As for the contents of the discs, I do not yet have a good overview, but it appeared to me that they also contain, at least at some places, very basic stuff, as for instance explaining the fundamental differences between PNG, JPEG, and GIF image formats (on a world-wide conference!). Maybe it would be a good idea for future conferences to sort the contents at least in two categories - low end stuff in the first four disks, high end for the other four - and then offer them separately to the corresponding target audiences. The short lists on the back of the disk boxes surely help as a first orientation. I would appreciate if some more detailed information (sort of short summaries) would be provided on two extra sheet of papers, which could also contain more information about the conference, its proceedings outside of the presentations, about participants, results, perspectives etc.. The technical quality of the recordings is average at best, probably reflecting the small budget allocated here. Light conditions vary, audio quality is sometimes very poor and some parts are hardly understandable, also the displayed script examples and other written material are very difficult to read.- As I could not participate personally in the conference, I was surprised and pleased to find out that at least one of my stacks had made it to Las Vegas as a sample stack. Scott Rossi used it in his Multimedia II presentation - the II in the section title probably indicating that this belongs in the advanced high-end stuff category - to demonstrate design principles (DVD 7, minutes 47 to 48). On the one hand he praised my stack of April 2007 (Imagedata Toolkit 3 Preview http://www.sanke.org/Software/ImagedataToolkitPreview3.zip) for containing a lot of powerful stuff and lots of features and functions (soundtrack Rossi), on the other hand he used it to demonstrate some of the Dont's of interface design. As I did not have the opportunity to comment on design principles earlier, I think I am entitled to a few remarks here. I agree with Scott that the stack - unfinished as it is - lends itself as an example to discuss questions of interface design. So would have other stacks. Scott complains that he did not know where to look first on the card. This is somehow understandable as the stack has a rather complex structure, as one fact containing 542 controls on one card, having 452 buttons (and an extra script library in a substack), of which 116 are visible and cluttering the card. Taking the time to read the three introductory texts available on the card (two buttons on top center), surely would have helped. The stack is not an exercise in interface design nor intended as a model for design, it is a preview stack (not a finished commercial product) and I wanted to get out this powerful stuff to the Rev community as we had already discussed details of its contents on the lists. In the meantime more than 60 other functions for imagedata processing have been added, and probably I will divide up the whole stuff in several separate stacks. One will be the already announced Photo Patchworks stack, another one has already been released (Seamless Tiles 2 http://www.sanke.org/Software/SeamlessTiles2.zip-) which probably can be assessed more favorably for its surface design. I myself have thought about various alternatives of structuring the interface, but this was not yet one of the essential points on my agenda. Among other solutions, I had thought about a strict menu structure (e.g. like in PaintShop Pro), but at least for the time being (and for time reasons) I decided against it, because I preferred the different functions - which can interact in various sequential ways to produce special effects - to be available right at your fingertips side by side, instead of digging deep into menu structures and start at the first level each time when you want to access a related function. Such considerations are also design principles, although not of the visual surface , but of internal structure and usability. Because of the complexity of the stack you might think of it as an adventurous, creative enterprise, which requires some time to detect all of its features and possibilities, given the about 300 (?) functions that can additionally interact in various ways. Another
