Re: Core Midi
> Dec 13 Mark Wieder wrote : > What you were talking about on the web forum is a way for Rev to > communicate midi information to other *applications* running on the > same machine in a generic manner, which is *quite* different from > sending midi data over a cable. There are many ways of packaging up > the midi info and sending it to other devices, but communicating with > other applications is much harder, especially since you want to do > this in a cross-platform manner. I would have thought it to be simpler to send Midi data from Rev to another application than through a port to another device. I would settle for the OSX platform for the moment. Would the IAC driver (in apples Audio MIDI setup) be an option? From within Logic I can see the bus of the IAC driver. The thing would be to get from Rev to the IAC driver. Does Revolution support CoreMidi? I understood from Mark Schönewille that Rev supports CoreImage and CoreAnimation. If it is much easier to send the Mididata through a midi interface to another device, I could connect a cable from the midi out to the midi in on my interface and voila I would be in Logic. But again, how to get from rev to my midi interface? I will look into your makeBoard stack. Thanks for your help, Beat ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re : Core Midi
> on dec. 13th Kurt Kaufman wrote : > A more recent development: > How about RTP-MIDI? This looks promising, and I would imagine that > Apple has a detailed reference for the specification. In brief: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIDI#RTP-MIDI_Transport_Protocol Thanks very much Kurt. This looks promising. I just had a glance at the given link. I will need to study it some more, because there are some things I don't know about as yet in the article. I will look into the RTP-Midi seriously this weekend. Beat ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Core Midi
To Beat, My response (14 december 2008) to your post has been rejected by the list moderator : "Your request to the use-revolution mailing list Posting of your message titled "Re: Core Midi" has been rejected by the list moderator. The moderator gave the following reason for rejecting your request: "No reason given" René from Paris___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Core Midi
Beat- Saturday, December 13, 2008, 7:31:39 AM, you wrote: > If there are more people who would like to get involved in getting > real time Midi data from and to Revolution going, What you were talking about on the web forum is a way for Rev to communicate midi information to other *applications* running on the same machine in a generic manner, which is *quite* different from sending midi data over a cable. There are many ways of packaging up the midi info and sending it to other devices, but communicating with other applications is much harder, especially since you want to do this in a cross-platform manner. ReWire is promising, although Propellerheads' licensing is byzantine. I've written an OSC library for rev (it's in my MakeBoard stack in revOnline), but again it's limited to talking to devices that support OSC. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Core Midi
For JB & Rick > last mails off-list For Beat > impossible ro reply off-list (wrong address mail ?) René - Hi René, my sincire apology for not answering you sooner. I posted my reply on the dutch forum on dec. 11 th. My goals is to be able to send Midi data in realtime from and to revolutiuon. I am working on stacks in Rev that help you in composing, by f.i. creating rhythms and themes, or variatiuons, or the usaer is able to generate variations by all sorts of transformations. I am also working on a 'evolutionary' stack to evolve rhythms. Anyway, I'll be needing to hear directly what I have created and I'd prefer to hear my own samples and Instruments (in Logic or NI) and not to use the QuickTime instruments. One of the stacks I am making will be searching for the 'right' sounds to use under user's direction (semi automated). So I need to hear my own sounds. As two know more than one, we might share info and be working together on this thing.I have already figured out how to make a standard midi file (as others have done before me). Do you have knowlwdge of C or C++ and Xcode (do you woirk on Mac?) I will be staring to look into these things in the coming 4 weeks, as I take my computer with me into the mountains (alas, no internet connection there). Sunday (tomorrow), I will be away for 4 weeks and only be able to get to my mail on a weekly basis. Greetings, Beat - Beat, What name for musician ! Thank you for your answer. My english is not very good, sorry :-)... But my french is better ! I am working on a generative musical instrument (named “Exagofon“) with Revolution (only, no C, C++ or Xcode... too much for my brain !) and today it work with the Quicktime instruments, but, like you, I wish play (live) Midi (in/out) via USB and Revolution on Macintosh. I am working also on several musical projects : Acordofon, Ritmofon, Yasarofon, Rizomofon, Exagovox. Bons souvenirs de Paris René - salut René, merci beaucoup pour votre mail. Mon anglais est mieux que mon francais, alors je continue en anglais. very interesting what you are doing. Maybe we could discuss some things when I get back. I have to dash off now, as the raod is 900 km to where I am going. talk to you later, Beat PS. It is my real name! Nice, he. - Bonjour Beat, Bon voyage ! Bonnes vacances ! I am also interesed by musical experimental instruments like Ztar (I have one Z7), Reactable, Reactogon (Exagofon is inspired from Reactogon), Chromatone, Miko, Thummer, Monome, Axis, Tenori-on (soon perhaps), Janko keyboards, Haken Continuum fingerboard (soon perhaps), etc... René___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Core Midi
Hi there, I agree that this is a topic of great interest to a number of people including myself. If Revolution is capable of working with Core MIDI, then this discussion should NOT take place "off list". We would like to know what all is happening! Thanks, Rick On Dec 14, 2008, at 5:35 AM, jbv wrote: Beat Cornaz a *crit : I will reply to you René off list. If there are more people who would like to get involved in getting real time Midi data from and to Revolution going, please contact me and I will try to coordinate the thing. Just curious : why keeping this off-list ? I'm interested in that topic and would like to be involved in any follow-up, on or off-list... thanks in advance, JB ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution __ Rick Harrison You can buy my $10 music album "Funny Time Machine" digital CD on the iTunes Store Now! To visit the iTunes Store now to listen to samples of my CD please click on the following link. (Please note you must have iTunes installed on your computer for this link to work.) http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=213668290 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Core Midi
Beat Cornaz a *crit : > > I will reply to you René off list. > > If there are more people who would like to get involved in getting > > real time Midi data from and to Revolution going, > > please contact me and I will try to coordinate > the thing. Just curious : why keeping this off-list ? I'm interested in that topic and would like to be involved in any follow-up, on or off-list... thanks in advance, JB ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Core Midi
Here's some speculation: If the appropriate port can be selected, then I would think that Revolution is capable of streaming the data. The real challenge might be the synchronization methods, such as MTC (MIDI Time Code) and SMPTE. A more recent development: How about RTP-MIDI? This looks promising, and I would imagine that Apple has a detailed reference for the specification. In brief: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIDI#RTP-MIDI_Transport_Protocol -Kurt ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Core Midi
Beat, What name for musician ! Thank you for your answer. My english is not very good, sorry :-)... But my french is better ! I am working on a generative musical instrument (named "Exagofon") with Revolution (only, no C, C++ or Xcode... too much for my brain !) and today it work with the Quicktime instruments, but, like you, I wish play (live) Midi (in/out) via USB and Revolution on Macintosh. I am working also on several musical projects : Acordofon, Ritmofon, Yasarofon, Rizomofon, Exagovox. Bons souvenirs de Paris René Le 13 déc. 08 à 16:31, Beat Cornaz a écrit : Thanks Mark & René for your reply. Sorry for not answering sooner. Sometimes things happen. > René wrote : > I am interesed with this question also, but I can't find your reply > in the Dutch forum I replied some days ago on the dutch forum, as well directly to you Mark. I will reply to you René off list. If there are more people who would like to get involved in getting real time Midi data from and to Revolution going, please contact me and I will try to coordinate the thing. I have to say, that I will be in Switzerland for the next 4 weeks and only be able to check my mail on a weekly basis. After that, I'll be back on my spot. best, Beat ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re:Re: Core Midi
Thanks Mark & René for your reply. Sorry for not answering sooner. Sometimes things happen. > René wrote : > I am interesed with this question also, but I can't find your reply > in the Dutch forum I replied some days ago on the dutch forum, as well directly to you Mark. I will reply to you René off list. If there are more people who would like to get involved in getting real time Midi data from and to Revolution going, please contact me and I will try to coordinate the thing. I have to say, that I will be in Switzerland for the next 4 weeks and only be able to check my mail on a weekly basis. After that, I'll be back on my spot. best, Beat ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Core Midi
Hello, I am interesed with this question also, but I can't find your reply in the Dutch forum René from Paris Le 11 déc. 08 à 11:48, Mark Schonewille a écrit : Hi Beat, Regarding MIDI, did you read my reply to your question in the Dutch forum, <http://www.runrev.info/rrforum>? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum We are always looking for new projects! Feel free to contact us to discuss your custom software project! On 11 dec 2008, at 11:08, Beat Cornaz wrote: Hi, how can I address the 'Core Midi'in OSX from within Revolution? Thanks, Beat ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Core Midi
Hi Beat, Regarding MIDI, did you read my reply to your question in the Dutch forum, <http://www.runrev.info/rrforum>? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum We are always looking for new projects! Feel free to contact us to discuss your custom software project! On 11 dec 2008, at 11:08, Beat Cornaz wrote: Hi, how can I address the 'Core Midi'in OSX from within Revolution? Thanks, Beat ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Core Midi
Hi, how can I address the 'Core Midi'in OSX from within Revolution? Thanks, Beat ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution