Re: AW: Different behavior of brush on Win / Mac

2009-01-09 Thread paolo

Tiemo,
I going through the same problem with the brush tool in Rev 3.0.0-gm. 
3  and MAC 10.5.5
When I use the brush tool in an Image area, it does not work properly  
and it is not accurate at all. It was working much better in the  
previous versions of Revolution (2.6).

Particularly with images with a transparent background.
I wonder  if you found a solution to this problem.
Best regards
Paolo Mazza



Il giorno 14/ott/08, alle ore 14:33, Tiemo Hollmann TB ha scritto:


I tried it with an extra image layer on top, without success.
The annoying "water-color" effect, seems to come from a wrong  
interpretation
of the brush shape The brush image actually is 32x32 pixel and the  
opaque
brush within is (I think) 8x8 pixel. It seems that sometimes some  
more pixel

as the inner 8x8 of this 32x32 image begin to draw in some situations.
Now I tried to build different images 8x8, 16x16, 32x32 with different
shapes and I tried to use "set the brush to" and also "set the  
brushpattern

to", all with the same annoying result.
Pretty confused
Tiemo


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AW: AW: Different behavior of brush on Win / Mac - confirmed

2008-10-15 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
FYI: The runrev QA center just confirmed this bug and it is supposed to be
solved in the next release.
Tiemo

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> 
> Hi Jacqueline,
> yes that's what I tested with the same result. Even when drawing strict
> vertical and horizontal lines I get some ghost pixels, e.g. when changing
> the direction. For example, when I am drawing this line from top to
> bottom-left:
>  *
>  *
>  *
>  *
> **
> I get these additional pixels, when changing the drawing direction from
> the
> vertical part to the horizontal part of the line:
>  *
>  *
> ***
> ***
> ***
> When drawing circles the additional pixels come completely irregular with
> a
> very ugly result of the line :(
> Tiemo
> 
> >
> > Why are your brush images larger than their contents? Can you make your
> > custom images the same size as the brush it contains? For example, an
> > 8x8 brush should be in an 8x8 image.
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AW: AW: Different behavior of brush on Win / Mac

2008-10-15 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Jacqueline,
yes that's what I tested with the same result. Even when drawing strict
vertical and horizontal lines I get some ghost pixels, e.g. when changing
the direction. For example, when I am drawing this line from top to
bottom-left:
 *
 *
 *
 *
**
I get these additional pixels, when changing the drawing direction from the
vertical part to the horizontal part of the line:
 *
 *
***
***
***
When drawing circles the additional pixels come completely irregular with a
very ugly result of the line :(
Tiemo
 
> 
> Why are your brush images larger than their contents? Can you make your
> custom images the same size as the brush it contains? For example, an
> 8x8 brush should be in an 8x8 image.
> 
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Re: AW: Different behavior of brush on Win / Mac

2008-10-14 Thread J. Landman Gay

Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:

I tried it with an extra image layer on top, without success.
The annoying "water-color" effect, seems to come from a wrong interpretation
of the brush shape The brush image actually is 32x32 pixel and the opaque
brush within is (I think) 8x8 pixel. It seems that sometimes some more pixel
as the inner 8x8 of this 32x32 image begin to draw in some situations.
Now I tried to build different images 8x8, 16x16, 32x32 with different
shapes and I tried to use "set the brush to" and also "set the brushpattern
to", all with the same annoying result.
Pretty confused


Why are your brush images larger than their contents? Can you make your 
custom images the same size as the brush it contains? For example, an 
8x8 brush should be in an 8x8 image.


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AW: Different behavior of brush on Win / Mac

2008-10-14 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
I tried it with an extra image layer on top, without success.
The annoying "water-color" effect, seems to come from a wrong interpretation
of the brush shape The brush image actually is 32x32 pixel and the opaque
brush within is (I think) 8x8 pixel. It seems that sometimes some more pixel
as the inner 8x8 of this 32x32 image begin to draw in some situations.
Now I tried to build different images 8x8, 16x16, 32x32 with different
shapes and I tried to use "set the brush to" and also "set the brushpattern
to", all with the same annoying result.
Pretty confused
Tiemo

> 
> Perhaps my approach is wrong. I have an image (foto), where the user can
> paint on. Perhaps the pixels of the existing image influence the pixels of
> the brush? Perhaps I should try to create an empty image above the other
> to
> paint with the brush or something like that.
> Tiemo
> 

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AW: Different behavior of brush on Win / Mac

2008-10-14 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello Jacqueline,
thanks for replying. I now tried three different things, working with Rev
3.0:
- selected "brushes in the standalone settings and used the smallest round
brush: 8
- imported a self made image 32x32 pixels and an opaque area of about 8x8
pixels (similar to the standard brush 8)
- imported a self made image 8x8 pixels with an opaque area of about 4x4
pixels.
All three approaches get a similar ugly result. The only difference is the
4x4 brush, where the line is just slimmer, but same ugly.

I am developing on Win and build the Mac standalone on Win. Could it be the
standalone engine on Mac?

Perhaps my approach is wrong. I have an image (foto), where the user can
paint on. Perhaps the pixels of the existing image influence the pixels of
the brush? Perhaps I should try to create an empty image above the other to
paint with the brush or something like that.
Tiemo


> 
> I've never seen this happen, but it might be because the brush images
> change IDs when you copy the brushes into the mainstack. Instead of
> doing that, remove the brushes substack and try selecting "brushes" in
> the standalone builder. That will make sure the IDs are correct.
> 
> If you are using an older version of Revolution, "brushes" were not
> included in the SB. I think they were added in 2.9.
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Re: Different behavior of brush on Win / Mac

2008-10-13 Thread J. Landman Gay

Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:

Hello,

I added the "Copy of revCompatibilityBrushes1" as a substack and let the
user paint with a brush (set the brush to 8). The size and behaviour of the
brush on Win is quite ok. Even when drawing a curve, the line keeps its size
and the curve is just a bit pixled (what is normal at this small size). When
painting on a Mac the size of the brush is only the same on strict vertical
and horizontal lines. But when drawing a curve on a Mac the line spreads as
if I would paint with "water colors" with ugly edges, corners and swellings.

Has anybody encountered the same phenomenon or can tell me if this is normal
on a Mac (I always thought of the Mac as a "design specialist") or what I
can do to get smoother curves with the brush tool? Btw, I am not sure, if it
is correct, that the brush stack is called "Copy of.", but it works and I
couldn't rename it just to "rev."


I've never seen this happen, but it might be because the brush images 
change IDs when you copy the brushes into the mainstack. Instead of 
doing that, remove the brushes substack and try selecting "brushes" in 
the standalone builder. That will make sure the IDs are correct.


If you are using an older version of Revolution, "brushes" were not 
included in the SB. I think they were added in 2.9.


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Different behavior of brush on Win / Mac

2008-10-13 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello,

I added the "Copy of revCompatibilityBrushes1" as a substack and let the
user paint with a brush (set the brush to 8). The size and behaviour of the
brush on Win is quite ok. Even when drawing a curve, the line keeps its size
and the curve is just a bit pixled (what is normal at this small size). When
painting on a Mac the size of the brush is only the same on strict vertical
and horizontal lines. But when drawing a curve on a Mac the line spreads as
if I would paint with "water colors" with ugly edges, corners and swellings.

Has anybody encountered the same phenomenon or can tell me if this is normal
on a Mac (I always thought of the Mac as a "design specialist") or what I
can do to get smoother curves with the brush tool? Btw, I am not sure, if it
is correct, that the brush stack is called "Copy of.", but it works and I
couldn't rename it just to "rev."

Thanks for any ideas

Tiemo 

 

 

 

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