Re: E-mailing data file
If you have gmail access then you have web access, then you have your web application access which is better. Automated Email is something that is hard to do well. Many of modern software will treat the automated piece as spam. It is cool for some kinds of notification but for crucial software reports I advise against. Andre On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Michael D Mays mich...@michaelsmanias.comwrote: But not everyone can get Gmail from anywhere. The example I sited in my first reply doesn't have access to Gmail they block it and a lot of other things/sites/ports. I can use SMTP and email a file from there. I don't use Rev for this and from what Andre says, one shouldn't. But if you don't have anything but email, then use email. Michael On Aug 5, 2010, at 1:10 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Also, what if someone uses a Web-based mail client and doesn't use an email app at all? I know several people who use gmail directly within a browser because they can get to it from anywhere there's an internet connection. Doesn't seem like mailto would be of any use here. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design Recently, Michael D Mays wrote: Ignorant me. I just tried revMail on Windows and if the file is too big the email program isn't launched or if running the email isn't generated. I think Sarah Reichelt's POP3 and SMTP stacks at http://www.troz.net/rev/index.irev?category=Library#stacks are pretty good. Michael On Aug 5, 2010, at 11:24 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Right: that's how the mailto protocol is usually handled on most systems, and unfortunately the way Microsoft handles it is unpredictable for all but the shortest messages. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: E-mailing data file
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In a lot of places email is the only way. I have people whose parent corporation provides their internet connection. They have limited bandwidth and a less than stellar corporate IT. Emails of less than a few MB is the only way for them. Michael On Aug 4, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Charles, checkout libSMTP on revonline but I agree with Richard, it is easier to make your standalone ping a server cgi with the data. Email is just to cumbersome these days. Andre On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 9:57 AM, charles61 csz...@mac.com wrote: I created an app that generates a data file. The files are saved on the user's hard drive. I want to add an e-mail button that would allow the user to send the file by e-mail by selecting the file within the app to send to another person who is using my program. How can I do that? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/E-mailing-data-file-tp2313404p2313404.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: E-mailing data file
Michael D Mays wrote: In a lot of places email is the only way. I have people whose parent corporation provides their internet connection. They have limited bandwidth and a less than stellar corporate IT. Emails of less than a few MB is the only way for them. Unless I misunderstood the original request, this isn't a question of bandwidth but merely of finding a reliable way to send the message. The mailto: protocol is often used for such things, and in many cases will open the user's default email client with a preformatted message ready to send. The problem with mailto is that it's not reliable on Windows systems if there's any risk that the total URL string passed to it may exceed 512 characters -- see the first comment at: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa767737%28VS.85%29.aspx Complicating things further, this limit appears to vary between different versions of Windows and/or Outlook (I've seen some systems where lengths up to 2048 are accepted, but even that's kinda small for sending logs). When that limit is exceeded, in most cases (but again, this is not consistently implemented) the OS will simply fail to open the client at all. Faced with that unpredictable limit, mailto is only useful on Windows when you know the message will be very short. So instead, we need to explore other options, and CGI is a great one. With a CGI you use the same bandwidth, since the message isn't any longer regardless how it's sent. But using a CGI to handle the message you no longer give up control over the message length, provided you send it with POST rather than GET (well, technically speaking some hosts may impose limits on POST data length, but usually those limits are so large they won't come into play for most common uses). In fact, using a CGI you can send the same message in much a smaller data chunk using Rev's built-in gzip compression: post compress(tMyData) to url http://mydomain.com/cgi-bin/myscript.cgi; Gzip compression works wonders on text, often reducing its length by as much as 40% and sometimes as high as 70% depending on the content. On the receiving end, the CGI script can get the POST data, run it through Rev's decompress function, and either email it to you, or write it to a file you can pick up with FTP, or any number of other options. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Richard, Wow! I really appreciate your suggestions on e-mailing data. This is something I hope to add on to my app after it is deployed. I don't have any experience with CGI. So thanks again!!! Charles Szasz csz...@mac.com On Aug 5, 2010, at 10:54 AM, Richard Gaskin [via Runtime Revolution] wrote: Michael D Mays wrote: In a lot of places email is the only way. I have people whose parent corporation provides their internet connection. They have limited bandwidth and a less than stellar corporate IT. Emails of less than a few MB is the only way for them. Unless I misunderstood the original request, this isn't a question of bandwidth but merely of finding a reliable way to send the message. The mailto: protocol is often used for such things, and in many cases will open the user's default email client with a preformatted message ready to send. The problem with mailto is that it's not reliable on Windows systems if there's any risk that the total URL string passed to it may exceed 512 characters -- see the first comment at: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa767737%28VS.85%29.aspx Complicating things further, this limit appears to vary between different versions of Windows and/or Outlook (I've seen some systems where lengths up to 2048 are accepted, but even that's kinda small for sending logs). When that limit is exceeded, in most cases (but again, this is not consistently implemented) the OS will simply fail to open the client at all. Faced with that unpredictable limit, mailto is only useful on Windows when you know the message will be very short. So instead, we need to explore other options, and CGI is a great one. With a CGI you use the same bandwidth, since the message isn't any longer regardless how it's sent. But using a CGI to handle the message you no longer give up control over the message length, provided you send it with POST rather than GET (well, technically speaking some hosts may impose limits on POST data length, but usually those limits are so large they won't come into play for most common uses). In fact, using a CGI you can send the same message in much a smaller data chunk using Rev's built-in gzip compression: post compress(tMyData) to url http://mydomain.com/cgi-bin/myscript.cgi; Gzip compression works wonders on text, often reducing its length by as much as 40% and sometimes as high as 70% depending on the content. On the receiving end, the CGI script can get the POST data, run it through Rev's decompress function, and either email it to you, or write it to a file you can pick up with FTP, or any number of other options. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list [hidden email] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution View message @ http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/E-mailing-data-file-tp2313404p2314969.html To unsubscribe from E-mailing data file, click here. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/E-mailing-data-file-tp2313404p2314978.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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charles61 wrote: Wow! I really appreciate your suggestions on e-mailing data. This is something I hope to add on to my app after it is deployed. I don't have any experience with CGI. So thanks again!!! Charles, your life is about to change. :) Getting started with CGIs can be daunting at first because in many ways it's quite different from writing in a desktop app. But once you get the hang of it and you've ironed out all your 500 errors (yes, you'll have them, but most are caused by only three issues so when you encounter 'em just post here and we'll help you sort 'em out) you'll have all sorts of ideas for ways you can use CGIs. Pretty soon you'll be the master of your server, able to have it do your bidding when called from your stacks or your browser. It'll open many new worlds of discovery and personal achievement. I can't stress enough how helpful Jacque's tutorial is for getting started with CGIs: http://hyperactivesw.com/cgitutorial/ You're about to have a very good time. Let us know how it goes. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: E-mailing data file
Richard, Thanks and I will check Jacque's tutorial for CGIs! Charles Szasz csz...@mac.com On Aug 5, 2010, at 11:08 AM, Richard Gaskin [via Runtime Revolution] wrote: charles61 wrote: Wow! I really appreciate your suggestions on e-mailing data. This is something I hope to add on to my app after it is deployed. I don't have any experience with CGI. So thanks again!!! Charles, your life is about to change. :) Getting started with CGIs can be daunting at first because in many ways it's quite different from writing in a desktop app. But once you get the hang of it and you've ironed out all your 500 errors (yes, you'll have them, but most are caused by only three issues so when you encounter 'em just post here and we'll help you sort 'em out) you'll have all sorts of ideas for ways you can use CGIs. Pretty soon you'll be the master of your server, able to have it do your bidding when called from your stacks or your browser. It'll open many new worlds of discovery and personal achievement. I can't stress enough how helpful Jacque's tutorial is for getting started with CGIs: http://hyperactivesw.com/cgitutorial/ You're about to have a very good time. Let us know how it goes. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list [hidden email] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution View message @ http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/E-mailing-data-file-tp2313404p2314990.html To unsubscribe from E-mailing data file, click here. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/E-mailing-data-file-tp2313404p2314993.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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I think you misunderstood my comment. And reading Charles comments I didn't think he was wanting to use mailto (cgi stuff) rather he was wanting a solution more along revMail. Email is not the best solution but many times it is more than adequate. Michael On Aug 5, 2010, at 9:54 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Michael D Mays wrote: In a lot of places email is the only way. I have people whose parent corporation provides their internet connection. They have limited bandwidth and a less than stellar corporate IT. Emails of less than a few MB is the only way for them. Unless I misunderstood the original request, ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: E-mailing data file
Michael D Mays wrote: I think you misunderstood my comment. And reading Charles comments I didn't think he was wanting to use mailto (cgi stuff) rather he was wanting a solution more along revMail. Email is not the best solution but many times it is more than adequate. I think I'm still missing something because RevMail is just a wrapper for mailto. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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I think were both wrong. revMail uses the user's email program to generate an email. The user then can send the email from their email program. It seems like I used Rev some years back to send email via SMTP. If not it was with that other cross platform software. Sorry, Michael On Aug 5, 2010, at 10:38 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Michael D Mays wrote: I think you misunderstood my comment. And reading Charles comments I didn't think he was wanting to use mailto (cgi stuff) rather he was wanting a solution more along revMail. Email is not the best solution but many times it is more than adequate. I think I'm still missing something because RevMail is just a wrapper for mailto. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: E-mailing data file
Michael D Mays wrote: I think were both wrong. revMail uses the user's email program to generate an email. The user then can send the email from their email program. Right: that's how the mailto protocol is usually handled on most systems, and unfortunately the way Microsoft handles it is unpredictable for all but the shortest messages. It seems like I used Rev some years back to send email via SMTP. If not it was with that other cross platform software. There are a few SMTP libs floating around in the Rev community, but using them may require a bit of diligence as it would require putting your account's SMTP authentication into the stack you hand out to clients. Some years ago Andre found a clever way to send email directly to one's SMTP server without such authentication, but as much as I love Andre I never felt comfortable with such a scheme to have tried it myself. For my own needs, a CGI has provided a good mix of flexibility with the data I'm sending, the size of the data (thanks to the compress function), and the security of knowing it can't be used by spammers to send email to other addresses. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: E-mailing data file
Ignorant me. I just tried revMail on Windows and if the file is too big the email program isn't launched or if running the email isn't generated. I think Sarah Reichelt's POP3 and SMTP stacks at http://www.troz.net/rev/index.irev?category=Library#stacks are pretty good. Michael On Aug 5, 2010, at 11:24 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Right: that's how the mailto protocol is usually handled on most systems, and unfortunately the way Microsoft handles it is unpredictable for all but the shortest messages. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Also, what if someone uses a Web-based mail client and doesn't use an email app at all? I know several people who use gmail directly within a browser because they can get to it from anywhere there's an internet connection. Doesn't seem like mailto would be of any use here. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design Recently, Michael D Mays wrote: Ignorant me. I just tried revMail on Windows and if the file is too big the email program isn't launched or if running the email isn't generated. I think Sarah Reichelt's POP3 and SMTP stacks at http://www.troz.net/rev/index.irev?category=Library#stacks are pretty good. Michael On Aug 5, 2010, at 11:24 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Right: that's how the mailto protocol is usually handled on most systems, and unfortunately the way Microsoft handles it is unpredictable for all but the shortest messages. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: E-mailing data file
Theres a little tool you can install (and I think you can adjust things manually yourself) so that mailto: will kick gmail in. It can be handy for those online links so that it will open a gmail compose window, but of all the people I know who use gmail I think only 2 of them have it set up this way. I'm not one of them either, so its a safe bet that in most cases your point is correct. In that situation, it would open an unconfigured default mail client which would indeed be useless. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: Also, what if someone uses a Web-based mail client and doesn't use an email app at all? I know several people who use gmail directly within a browser because they can get to it from anywhere there's an internet connection. Doesn't seem like mailto would be of any use here. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design Recently, Michael D Mays wrote: Ignorant me. I just tried revMail on Windows and if the file is too big the email program isn't launched or if running the email isn't generated. I think Sarah Reichelt's POP3 and SMTP stacks at http://www.troz.net/rev/index.irev?category=Library#stacks are pretty good. Michael On Aug 5, 2010, at 11:24 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Right: that's how the mailto protocol is usually handled on most systems, and unfortunately the way Microsoft handles it is unpredictable for all but the shortest messages. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: Some years ago Andre found a clever way to send email directly to one's SMTP server without such authentication, but as much as I love Andre I never felt comfortable with such a scheme to have tried it myself. smtp-raw.rev was a toy, it does not guarantee deliveries because some receiving SMTP servers will try a reverse DNS check on it and will spot the difference. Nowadays with spam and stuff it is even harder to play the MTA game. That thing should not be used into production unless you control the receiving SMTP server and knows how to configure it to allow your traffic thru (Which will open it to all kinds of nastiness anyway) CGI/RevServer is the way to go for such communications. -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: E-mailing data file
But not everyone can get Gmail from anywhere. The example I sited in my first reply doesn't have access to Gmail they block it and a lot of other things/sites/ports. I can use SMTP and email a file from there. I don't use Rev for this and from what Andre says, one shouldn't. But if you don't have anything but email, then use email. Michael On Aug 5, 2010, at 1:10 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Also, what if someone uses a Web-based mail client and doesn't use an email app at all? I know several people who use gmail directly within a browser because they can get to it from anywhere there's an internet connection. Doesn't seem like mailto would be of any use here. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design Recently, Michael D Mays wrote: Ignorant me. I just tried revMail on Windows and if the file is too big the email program isn't launched or if running the email isn't generated. I think Sarah Reichelt's POP3 and SMTP stacks at http://www.troz.net/rev/index.irev?category=Library#stacks are pretty good. Michael On Aug 5, 2010, at 11:24 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Right: that's how the mailto protocol is usually handled on most systems, and unfortunately the way Microsoft handles it is unpredictable for all but the shortest messages. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
E-mailing data file
I created an app that generates a data file. The files are saved on the user's hard drive. I want to add an e-mail button that would allow the user to send the file by e-mail by selecting the file within the app to send to another person who is using my program. How can I do that? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/E-mailing-data-file-tp2313404p2313404.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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charles61 wrote: I created an app that generates a data file. The files are saved on the user's hard drive. I want to add an e-mail button that would allow the user to send the file by e-mail by selecting the file within the app to send to another person who is using my program. How can I do that? Many people would recommend using mailto. Don't count on it. Microsoft has imposed a limit on the length of URLs used with that protocol; it's short, and varies from release to release, making the use of mailto for setting up emails on Windows unreliable unless you know your email+attachment will be very short. I would use a CGI on the server, and post the file to that, which could then email it to you. You can even compress the data using the built-in compress function to make the transfer much sorter. It's a bit more work to set up a CGI, but well worth it: once you get comfortable with CGIs a very large universe of possibilities opens up to you. The basics of getting started with the Rev CGI are here: http://www.hyperactivesw.com/cgitutorial/ If you get going and have any trouble working out the email part of it, drop a note here and we'll sort it out for you. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Richard, The only problem is that I am dealing with individual computers running the program and not a server. Any other ideas? Charles Szasz csz...@mac.com On Aug 4, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Richard Gaskin [via Runtime Revolution] wrote: charles61 wrote: I created an app that generates a data file. The files are saved on the user's hard drive. I want to add an e-mail button that would allow the user to send the file by e-mail by selecting the file within the app to send to another person who is using my program. How can I do that? Many people would recommend using mailto. Don't count on it. Microsoft has imposed a limit on the length of URLs used with that protocol; it's short, and varies from release to release, making the use of mailto for setting up emails on Windows unreliable unless you know your email+attachment will be very short. I would use a CGI on the server, and post the file to that, which could then email it to you. You can even compress the data using the built-in compress function to make the transfer much sorter. It's a bit more work to set up a CGI, but well worth it: once you get comfortable with CGIs a very large universe of possibilities opens up to you. The basics of getting started with the Rev CGI are here: http://www.hyperactivesw.com/cgitutorial/ If you get going and have any trouble working out the email part of it, drop a note here and we'll sort it out for you. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list [hidden email] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution View message @ http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/E-mailing-data-file-tp2313404p2313496.html To unsubscribe from E-mailing data file, click here. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/E-mailing-data-file-tp2313404p2313565.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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My comment would be using a web service that the client application could access and then the web service would actually send the email. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: charles61 csz...@mac.com Sender: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 07:44:21 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Reply-To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: E-mailing data file Richard, The only problem is that I am dealing with individual computers running the program and not a server. Any other ideas? Charles Szasz csz...@mac.com On Aug 4, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Richard Gaskin [via Runtime Revolution] wrote: charles61 wrote: I created an app that generates a data file. The files are saved on the user's hard drive. I want to add an e-mail button that would allow the user to send the file by e-mail by selecting the file within the app to send to another person who is using my program. How can I do that? Many people would recommend using mailto. Don't count on it. Microsoft has imposed a limit on the length of URLs used with that protocol; it's short, and varies from release to release, making the use of mailto for setting up emails on Windows unreliable unless you know your email+attachment will be very short. I would use a CGI on the server, and post the file to that, which could then email it to you. You can even compress the data using the built-in compress function to make the transfer much sorter. It's a bit more work to set up a CGI, but well worth it: once you get comfortable with CGIs a very large universe of possibilities opens up to you. The basics of getting started with the Rev CGI are here: http://www.hyperactivesw.com/cgitutorial/ If you get going and have any trouble working out the email part of it, drop a note here and we'll sort it out for you. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list [hidden email] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution View message @ http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/E-mailing-data-file-tp2313404p2313496.html To unsubscribe from E-mailing data file, click here. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/E-mailing-data-file-tp2313404p2313565.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: E-mailing data file
charles61 wrote: On Aug 4, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Richard Gaskin [via Runtime Revolution] wrote: I would use a CGI on the server, and post the file to that, which could then email it to you. You can even compress the data using the built-in compress function to make the transfer much sorter. It's a bit more work to set up a CGI, but well worth it: once you get comfortable with CGIs a very large universe of possibilities opens up to you. The basics of getting started with the Rev CGI are here: http://www.hyperactivesw.com/cgitutorial/ The only problem is that I am dealing with individual computers running the program and not a server. Any other ideas? Right: the client side isn't running the CGI, any more than they would run your mail server if you could send the email directly. Whether sending email or posting the message to a CGI to email for you, both require nothing more than an Internet connection on the client. The work is done on a server. This assumes you have a web server available, and one that allows you to run compiled CGI engines like the Rev CGI (a good many do these days). The URL above describes what you'd need to set up Rev on your server, and I can't stress enough how wonderfully useful it is to have such a setup at your disposal, for this and a thousand other tasks you'll think up over time. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: E-mailing data file
Hi Charles, what if, instead of sending data as an attachment of an e-mail, user saved data into a ftp directory on a web server. In this case the only thing to send would be the url or name of data file. Of course in this case you will need to ensure 24/7 availability of your ftp directory. However this scheme simplifies implementatin and would not even require any cgi coding at all. Viktoras charles61 wrote: I created an app that generates a data file. The files are saved on the user's hard drive. I want to add an e-mail button that would allow the user to send the file by e-mail by selecting the file within the app to send to another person who is using my program. How can I do that? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: E-mailing data file
Charles, checkout libSMTP on revonline but I agree with Richard, it is easier to make your standalone ping a server cgi with the data. Email is just to cumbersome these days. Andre On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 9:57 AM, charles61 csz...@mac.com wrote: I created an app that generates a data file. The files are saved on the user's hard drive. I want to add an e-mail button that would allow the user to send the file by e-mail by selecting the file within the app to send to another person who is using my program. How can I do that? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/E-mailing-data-file-tp2313404p2313404.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
