Re: [OT] Flash - Open Source

2010-04-22 Thread Richmond Mathewson

 On 21/04/2010 10:45, David Bovill wrote:

This is an example of one of the open source projects that sprung up
after Adobe launched it's open source strategy, there are other great
ones like Flixl. It's an example of the sort of benefits we'd get if
RunRev adopted a proactive open source marketing strategy of this
sort. Note the license attached to the code is GPL.



Methinks nobody is listening . . .  :(


On 20 Apr 2010, at 21:26, Richmond Mathewson  wrote:


Well worth a look:

http://flowplayer.org/index.html


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Re: [OT] Flash - Open Source

2010-04-21 Thread stephen barncard
although, it's not open source...

On 21 April 2010 08:21, stephen barncard wrote:

> So is the Yahoo medial player - free, the most simple to use I've ever seen
> and doesn't use flash:
>
> http://mediaplayer.yahoo.com/
>
>
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Re: [OT] Flash - Open Source

2010-04-21 Thread stephen barncard
So is the Yahoo medial player - free, the most simple to use I've ever seen
and doesn't use flash:

http://mediaplayer.yahoo.com/

On 20 April 2010 13:26, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

>  Well worth a look:
>
> http://flowplayer.org/index.html
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Re: [OT] Flash - Open Source

2010-04-21 Thread David Bovill
This is an example of one of the open source projects that sprung up
after Adobe launched it's open source strategy, there are other great
ones like Flixl. It's an example of the sort of benefits we'd get if
RunRev adopted a proactive open source marketing strategy of this
sort. Note the license attached to the code is GPL.

On 20 Apr 2010, at 21:26, Richmond Mathewson  wrote:

> Well worth a look:
>
> http://flowplayer.org/index.html
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[OT] Flash - Open Source

2010-04-20 Thread Richmond Mathewson

 Well worth a look:

http://flowplayer.org/index.html
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Re: Flash open source!!!

2006-11-28 Thread Dave Cragg

On 28 Nov 2006, at 20:46, Todd Geist wrote:


On Nov 28, 2006, at 12:46 AM, Dave Cragg wrote:


I'm not sure there is anything for Rev developers here.


Well maybe not directly in Rev

But what about using Flex  Builder to rich UIs and Flash Controls  
and running them inside of altBrowser.  Since Flex works really  
well with any type of web server, why not one built directly into  
your Rev Application.


I don't think this follows as a consequence of the open source  
announcement. (It was already possible.) But it's an interesting  
notion anyway.


I guess the first question would be "why bother" when you can build  
potentially more powerful standalone apps in Rev anyway that also  
work well with web servers. (But potentially lacking some of those  
cool looking Flex controls. :-)) But there might be an advantage if  
you have to create something that has to run in both a browser and a  
standalone app.


Cheers
Dave



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Re: Flash open source!!!

2006-11-28 Thread Todd Geist

On Nov 28, 2006, at 12:46 AM, Dave Cragg wrote:


I'm not sure there is anything for Rev developers here.


Well maybe not directly in Rev

But what about using Flex  Builder to rich UIs and Flash Controls and  
running them inside of altBrowser.  Since Flex works really well with  
any type of web server, why not one built directly into your Rev  
Application.


Flex Builder comes with a whole mess of Controls, like table views,  
tree views, charts, schedule views, graphs, splitters.  All with  
dynamic resizing.  It is pretty cool!  ( but no where near cheap)


There are a bunch of products out there trying to make Flex Programs  
run on the desktop. They call them projectors, seems to me Rev Plus  
altBrowser might already be one.


This is all theory for me at this point since I haven't tried it.   
But I have used this concept with FileMaker Pro 8.5, which has a  
WebBrowser Control now. And it works quite well.




Todd


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Re: Flash open source!!!

2006-11-28 Thread Mark Wieder
Dave-

Tuesday, November 28, 2006, 12:46:43 AM, you wrote:

> Mark, I think the "Flash open source" subject may be a little
> misleading. As far as I know, the ActionScript Virtual Machine is  
> only part of the Flash plugin.

Yes, I got carried away and probably should have qualified that a bit.
Got your attention, though, no? 

> Does this mean all the source code or just some of it? (If I were a
> betting man, I know where I'd place my money.)

Following up the links to mozilla without downloading the source, it
would appear that the full VM source is there.

> I'm not sure there is anything for Rev developers here.

Me neither, at the moment, but the possibilities for generating
compliant executable bytecode objects is intriguing.

"By working on an open source implementation of ES4 with the
community, Adobe and Mozilla hope to accelerate the adoption of a
standard language for creating engaging Web applications."

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Re: Flash open source!!!

2006-11-28 Thread Mark Wieder
Lynn-

Tuesday, November 28, 2006, 7:54:24 AM, you wrote:

> My read on this is that the ECMA script engine (aka Javascript) will be
> folded into Spidermonkey, the Javascript engine that is part of the Mozilla
> project. It doesn't have anything really to do with Flash in particular.

True, you'd still need a Flash plugin, but in addition to being rolled
into Spidermonkey, the ActionScript VM itself is now open source.
That's completely aside from being part of any mozilla product. I do
expect to see some interesting things as part of the Spidermonkey
integration, but it opens some other interesting doors as well.

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RE: Flash open source!!!

2006-11-28 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> > ...now someone with time on their hands needs to modify the 
> source so 
> > that it runs Transcript code natively...
> 
> Mark, I think the "Flash open source" subject may be a little 
> misleading. As far as I know, the ActionScript Virtual 
> Machine is only part of the Flash plugin.
> 
> The press release has the usual lack of clarity (spin) we've 
> come to expect from large corporations with dollars to spend 
> on marketing.
> 
> "Adobe has contributed source code for the ActionScriptT 
> Virtual Machine"

My read on this is that the ECMA script engine (aka Javascript) will be
folded into Spidermonkey, the Javascript engine that is part of the Mozilla
project. It doesn't have anything really to do with Flash in particular.

There are a number of products that utilize Spidermonkey for adding
cross-platform scripting to their products when otherwise they might have to
implement Applescript on Mac and VB Script on Windows - for
example...Valentina Studio 2.5 :-)

What this quite interesting in a database environment that also supports SQL
- you can act automate SQL queries and also act on the result. Add in the
new virtual PIVOT TABLE capabilities coming and you have an excellent data
analysis tool.

Best regards,

Lynn Fredricks
President
Paradigma Software, Inc

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Deploy True Client-Server Database Solutions
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Re: Flash open source!!!

2006-11-28 Thread Dave Cragg


On 28 Nov 2006, at 01:08, Mark Wieder wrote:


...and more...

The Flash ActionScript Virtual Machine is now open source! I
completely missed this announcement until it was brought to my
attention this afternoon.

http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/ 
200611/110706Mozilla.html


...now someone with time on their hands needs to modify the source so
that it runs Transcript code natively...


Mark, I think the "Flash open source" subject may be a little  
misleading. As far as I know, the ActionScript Virtual Machine is  
only part of the Flash plugin.


The press release has the usual lack of clarity (spin) we've come to  
expect from large corporations with dollars to spend on marketing.


"Adobe has contributed source code for the ActionScriptâ„¢ Virtual  
Machine"


Does this mean all the source code or just some of it? (If I were a  
betting man, I know where I'd place my money.)


Adobe tout the speed and efficiency of the ActionScript 3 virtual  
machine versus earlier versions. But Flex 2 (and I guess Flash 9 when  
it arrives) produce precompiled ActionScript. The release refers to  
Just In Time compilation, which makes sense for ActionScript  
(JavaScript) deployment in html pages. But I wonder if the speed  
gains are as significant compared to precompiled scripts.


I'm not sure there is anything for Rev developers here.

Cheers
Dave

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Flash open source!!!

2006-11-27 Thread Mark Wieder
...and more...

The Flash ActionScript Virtual Machine is now open source! I
completely missed this announcement until it was brought to my
attention this afternoon.

http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/200611/110706Mozilla.html

...now someone with time on their hands needs to modify the source so
that it runs Transcript code natively...

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