Reports and Formatted Text

2010-11-15 Thread Mike Arnold
(Note that I posted this to the forum, but no answer, perhaps its too RTFM)

I suppose I will be forever the beginner. I have done some pretty fun stuff 
with LiveCode lately, but have looked at this too long. 

I have developed a simple webpage that does time calculation for competitive 
carriage driving (yes, horses  carriages, talk about buggy whip makers!) 
Sometimes we compete where there is no internet connectivity or even cell phone 
connections. So, I'd like to make an app that run on Mac, Windows, iOS, 
Android, etc. The easiest way to explain it is to look a the website:
http://drivingnews.us/marathontimes ... select 'Set Default Speeds'-any of 
those and then for Section A distance: type in 6505, Section D type in 1 (it 
will convert to K) and Section E type in 7500 and calculate. (you can click 
on any of the options if you like)

The front page, I know how to do just fine in LiveCode, but how do I get the 
formatted text on the 'calculated' page?

I am sure its quite easy, as is almost everything in LiveCode.

thanks in advance,
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Re: Reports and Formatted Text

2010-11-15 Thread Mark Wieder
Mike-

Monday, November 15, 2010, 6:41:11 AM, you wrote:

 (Note that I posted this to the forum, but no answer, perhaps its too RTFM)

I think most of us here don't look at the web forum...

 The front page, I know how to do just fine in LiveCode, but how
 do I get the formatted text on the 'calculated' page?

OK - I'm a bit confused by your terminology - do you want to create a
webpage or an app? With no internet connectivity at the site I'm
assuming you're talking about an app. In that case, what I'd do is
have two pages in the stack: the first being the input form and the
second being the calculated results. On the second page, use the
property editor to set the text fonts the way you want. Then have
buttons on each page that simply go to the other page.

OTOH, if you really do want to output web pages on the fly, bracket
your calculated results with html tags:

bukmub

Did I misunderstand what you're trying to accomplish?

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Re: Reports and Formatted Text

2010-11-15 Thread Mike Arnold
Mark,

Thank you for your response.  You've got it exactly right.  I already have a 
web page implementation ... first user request: an iPhone App, 2nd: Android, 
3rd:  PC ... because at competitions occasionally we do not have cell coverage 
(though for the most part, it was because the iPhone people didn't realize that 
they could use their browsers ... but have to remember, carriage drivers have a 
rather high average age :-)

So the 'way' to do this is to define individual fields and set their properties 
for font and visibility (if a value isn't entered for a phase, then that phase 
doesn't get any values) ... Given this approach, what I am unsure of is how to 
make the size of Section A output variable (2 lines if 1.5K, but 8 lines if 
7.5K) and then not have blank space if section D isn't specified. The idea is 
that if a printer is around, they can print this and tape it directly to their 
carriage.

(try some values on the web page and it might help understand my wandering 
http://driivngnews.us/marathontimes)

thanks in advance,
Mike.



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formatted text in clipboardData

2010-03-31 Thread Lars Brehmer
I am trying to use a script to put the text of three text fields into  
the clipboardData and then manually paste it into a Word document and  
keep the text formatting.


Field txt1 - font A Bold
Field txt2 - font B Regular
Field txt3 - font A Regular

If I copy and paste each of the 3 fields separately, the fonts and  
formatting are retained.


But with this script;

set the clipboardData[rtf] to the rtfText of fld txt1  the  
rtfText of fld txt2  the rtfText of fld txt3


and then paste in the Word document, even when choosing formatted  
text result in all three becoming font A Regular. I have tried the  
same thing with htmlText and neither one works so far for me.


Is it possible to do what I am trying to do?

Cheers,


Lars
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Re: formatted text in clipboardData

2010-03-31 Thread Mark Schonewille

Lars,

Try this or a slightly different variant:

set the htmlText of fld txt4 to the htmlText of fld txt1  \
  the htmlText of fld txt2  the htmlText of fld txt4
set the clipboardData[rtf] to the rtfText of fld txt4

You'll need an additional field txt4.

Best,

Mark



Op 31-03-10 15:04, Lars Brehmer schreef:
I am trying to use a script to put the text of three text fields into 
the clipboardData and then manually paste it into a Word document and 
keep the text formatting.


Field txt1 - font A Bold
Field txt2 - font B Regular
Field txt3 - font A Regular

If I copy and paste each of the 3 fields separately, the fonts and 
formatting are retained.


But with this script;

set the clipboardData[rtf] to the rtfText of fld txt1  the 
rtfText of fld txt2  the rtfText of fld txt3


and then paste in the Word document, even when choosing formatted 
text result in all three becoming font A Regular. I have tried the 
same thing with htmlText and neither one works so far for me.


Is it possible to do what I am trying to do?

Cheers,


Lars


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Re: Pasting formatted text into Rev fields not possible on OS X

2009-11-28 Thread gmccarthy

François
You asked:
 has anyone observed the difference between optical size of of fonts
 between rev and other apps in OS X?

I'm sorry I was hasty in my comments on the optical appearance of text.
You may have experienced differences that were not causally related to the
bugs with html and rtfText that I was concerned with.
I now have seen text size differences that are not related to html or
rtfText bugs, but on Windows XP.
I don't have the latest mac OS to text, but things look OK on OS 10.3.9.
Hence my rash assumption.
It would be good if you added your experiences to the bug report:
http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=8474
http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=8474 
All the best
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Re: Pasting formatted text into Rev fields not possible on OS X

2009-11-13 Thread François Chaplais
do you work on Windows? In 
http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=8428, comment 6 says that 
RTF is not used for pasting in Mac OS X.

best
François
Le 13 nov. 2009 à 08:21, gmccarthy a écrit :

 
 
 has anyone observed the difference between optical size of of fonts
 between rev and other apps in OS X?
 There does not seem to be an entry for this in qacenter.
 http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7609
 
 Yes, this was the whole point of my initial report.  bug 7331
 I put it in terms of teh rtfText is actually different so the so called
 optical size is obviously different.
 
 There are now 5 bug reports for more problems associated with rtfText
 problems
 http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7331
 http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7334
 http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7985
 http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=8428
 http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7609
 
 
 To observed optical difference that people are noticing is due to the actual
 difference in the rtfText values.
 
 See http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7331
 for specific details of the rtfText translation problem and a stack for
 demonstrating the rtfText translation problems.
 Also note the optical differences by dragging the image from teh lower left
 corner over the field to see that the text is actually different in size.



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Re: Pasting formatted text into Rev fields not possible on OS X

2009-11-12 Thread gmccarthy

There are now 4 bug reports for more problems associated with rtfText
problems
http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7331
http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7334
http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7985
http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=8428

See http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7331
for specific details of the rtfText translation problem and a stack for
demonstrating the rtfText translation problems.

Regards
Gerard McCarthy

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Re: Pasting formatted text into Rev fields not possible on OS X

2009-11-12 Thread François Chaplais

Le 12 nov. 2009 à 09:13, gmccarthy a écrit :

 
 There are now 4 bug reports for more problems associated with rtfText
 problems
 http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7331
 http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7334
 http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7985
 http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=8428
 
 See http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7331
 for specific details of the rtfText translation problem and a stack for
 demonstrating the rtfText translation problems.
 
 Regards
 Gerard McCarthy
 

has anyone observed the difference between optical size of of fonts between rev 
and other apps in OS X?
There does not seem to be an entry for this in qacenter.

Best
François

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Re: Pasting formatted text into Rev fields not possible on OS X

2009-11-12 Thread J. Landman Gay

François Chaplais wrote:


has anyone observed the difference between optical size of of fonts between rev 
and other apps in OS X?
There does not seem to be an entry for this in qacenter.


http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7609

Add your comments. :)

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Re: Pasting formatted text into Rev fields not possible on OS X

2009-11-12 Thread gmccarthy


 has anyone observed the difference between optical size of of fonts
 between rev and other apps in OS X?
 There does not seem to be an entry for this in qacenter.
http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7609

Yes, this was the whole point of my initial report.  bug 7331
I put it in terms of teh rtfText is actually different so the so called
optical size is obviously different.

There are now 5 bug reports for more problems associated with rtfText
problems
http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7331
http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7334
http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7985
http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=8428
http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7609


To observed optical difference that people are noticing is due to the actual
difference in the rtfText values.

See http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7331
for specific details of the rtfText translation problem and a stack for
demonstrating the rtfText translation problems.
Also note the optical differences by dragging the image from teh lower left
corner over the field to see that the text is actually different in size.






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Pasting formatted text into Rev fields not possible on OS X

2009-11-11 Thread Klaus Major
Hi all,

FYI: I just reported this very nasty bug:
http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=8428

Hope this gets fixed until this evening* :-D
*Or whenever Rev 4 is officially released.


Best

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Re: Pasting formatted text into Rev fields not possible on OS X

2009-11-11 Thread Jacques Hausser
Klaus,

I just checked it... and it works perfectly well both from TextEdit to Rev and 
from Rev to TextEdit, both with drag and drop and copy/paste (MacOS 10.6)

Should I add it to your report ?

Some computers have their idiosyncrasies...

Jacques




Le 11 nov. 2009 à 15:21, Klaus Major a écrit :

 Hi all,
 
 FYI: I just reported this very nasty bug:
 http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=8428
 
 Hope this gets fixed until this evening* :-D
 *Or whenever Rev 4 is officially released.
 
 
 Best
 
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Re: Pasting formatted text into Rev fields not possible on OS X

2009-11-11 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Jacques,

 Klaus,
 
 I just checked it... and it works perfectly well both from TextEdit to Rev 
 and from Rev to TextEdit, both with drag and drop and copy/paste (MacOS 10.6)
 Should I add it to your report ?

Well, that might be a good idea.

 Some computers have their idiosyncrasies...

You bet! :-)

 Jacques


Best

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Re: Pasting formatted text into Rev fields not possible on OS X

2009-11-11 Thread Jacques Hausser
Hi Klaus,

An afterthought: I remember some time ago I had problems with the menu's items 
after re-loading RunRev after a crash. Some shortcuts didn't work anymore. And 
finally it was due to problems during the downloading, apparently some parts 
were not replaced by the new ones. It was solved when I get rid of RunRev 
completely before re-download it.

Just an idea...

All the best

Jacques

PS: as you already completed your report, I did'nt add redundant imformation ;-)



Le 11 nov. 2009 à 15:52, Klaus Major a écrit :

 Hi Jacques,
 
 Klaus,
 
 I just checked it... and it works perfectly well both from TextEdit to Rev 
 and from Rev to TextEdit, both with drag and drop and copy/paste (MacOS 10.6)
 Should I add it to your report ?
 
 Well, that might be a good idea.
 
 Some computers have their idiosyncrasies...
 
 You bet! :-)
 
 Jacques
 
 
 Best
 
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Re: Pasting formatted text into Rev fields not possible on OS X

2009-11-11 Thread Richmond Mathewson

Klaus Major wrote:

Hi all,

FYI: I just reported this very nasty bug:
http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=8428

Hope this gets fixed until this evening* :-D
*Or whenever Rev 4 is officially released.

  

Hey; you outdid me this time . . .  :)

I hope they are having fun in San Francisco: I am really
enjoying myself, chewing my beard here in Bulgaria.

When I think of the money we all (well, not the odd, sensible
German) stumped up to go to Edinburgh it just makes me happy
when I think of it being spent on air tickets out to California and
associated junketings rather than R and D . . .  :)

Remember, ever so softly, mutter to yourself:

Elastic-sided GANTT charts and you will discover inner peace!
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NOW: I just ran up a styled text document in Ye Olde Appleworks
on my trusty G4 (colours, italics, funny fonts, different sizes) and 
copy-pasted it

across to a scrollable text-field in Studio dp-4 and:

1. Colours were preserved,

2. Italics were preserved,

3.  Different fonts were preserved,

Only the sizes got lost.

Am I reading you right, or do you mean pasting between text fields in 
RunRev?

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Re: Pasting formatted text into Rev fields not possible on OS X

2009-11-11 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Jacques,

 Hi Klaus,
 
 An afterthought: I remember some time ago I had problems with the menu's 
 items after re-loading RunRev after a crash. Some shortcuts didn't work 
 anymore. And finally it was due to problems during the downloading, 
 apparently some parts were not replaced by the new ones. It was solved when I 
 get rid of RunRev completely before re-download it.
 
 Just an idea...

forgot to mention that this is on OS X 10.6.x,
but it works fine with Rev 3.5!?


A little later...

Just tested this at home and everything works fine,
almost the same machine (MacMini 2009, 4 GB RAM) 
and setup as at work, Rev updated via Check for updates etc...
WTF???

 All the best
 
 Jacques
 
 PS: as you already completed your report, I did'nt add redundant imformation 
 ;-)

Yo :-)


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Re: Pasting formatted text into Rev fields not possible on OS X

2009-11-11 Thread François Chaplais

Le 11 nov. 2009 à 17:17, Richmond Mathewson a écrit :

 
 NOW: I just ran up a styled text document in Ye Olde Appleworks
 on my trusty G4 (colours, italics, funny fonts, different sizes) and 
 copy-pasted it
 across to a scrollable text-field in Studio dp-4 and:
 
 1. Colours were preserved,
 
 2. Italics were preserved,
 
 3.  Different fonts were preserved,
 
 Only the sizes got lost.
 
 Am I reading you right, or do you mean pasting between text fields in RunRev?

interesting test here. Did the same copy paste from appleworks (which is 
carbon) into rev studio 3.5  (I will upgrade in a few days ;-)) and it kept 
color, font, style but lost size (which was 48, while the pasted text appeared 
to between 10 or 12 pt)). When setting the size to 48 inside rev, the text was 
resized, but the baseline was unchanged, and was much too high.

Now I did the same thing, but from pages '09 (and it is certainly cocoa). 
Everything was kept, except the baseline. I have to mention that the Pages 
pasting was done in the rev field just below the paste from AW.

Now, let me see; I put empty into the field thru the msg box and paste (command 
-c) from Pages into the field. Everything is OK except the baseline which is 
much too high, i.e., 3/4 of the text disappears atop (?) of the field.

Same thing with dp-4.

Most disturbing is that, even when the text size was supposedly right in rev 
(i.e. 48pt), the optical size was different (it was smaller in rev). Is this 
some remnant of a windows v.s. mac point size war?

Boy, this  really is fishy...

Best
François

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Re: Pasting formatted text into Rev fields not possible on OS X

2009-11-11 Thread Devin Asay


On Nov 11, 2009, at 2:29 PM, François Chaplais wrote:



Le 11 nov. 2009 à 17:17, Richmond Mathewson a écrit :



NOW: I just ran up a styled text document in Ye Olde Appleworks
on my trusty G4 (colours, italics, funny fonts, different sizes)  
and copy-pasted it

across to a scrollable text-field in Studio dp-4 and:

1. Colours were preserved,

2. Italics were preserved,

3.  Different fonts were preserved,

Only the sizes got lost.

Am I reading you right, or do you mean pasting between text fields  
in RunRev?


interesting test here. Did the same copy paste from appleworks  
(which is carbon) into rev studio 3.5  (I will upgrade in a few  
days ;-)) and it kept color, font, style but lost size (which was  
48, while the pasted text appeared to between 10 or 12 pt)). When  
setting the size to 48 inside rev, the text was resized, but the  
baseline was unchanged, and was much too high.


Now I did the same thing, but from pages '09 (and it is certainly  
cocoa). Everything was kept, except the baseline. I have to mention  
that the Pages pasting was done in the rev field just below the  
paste from AW.


Now, let me see; I put empty into the field thru the msg box and  
paste (command -c) from Pages into the field. Everything is OK  
except the baseline which is much too high, i.e., 3/4 of the text  
disappears atop (?) of the field.


What happens if you turn off fixedLineHeight for the field you are  
pasting into?


Devin


Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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Re: Pasting formatted text into Rev fields not possible on OS X

2009-11-11 Thread François Chaplais
 interesting test here. Did the same copy paste from appleworks (which is 
 carbon) into rev studio 3.5  (I will upgrade in a few days ;-)) and it kept 
 color, font, style but lost size (which was 48, while the pasted text 
 appeared to between 10 or 12 pt)). When setting the size to 48 inside rev, 
 the text was resized, but the baseline was unchanged, and was much too high.
 
 Now I did the same thing, but from pages '09 (and it is certainly cocoa). 
 Everything was kept, except the baseline. I have to mention that the Pages 
 pasting was done in the rev field just below the paste from AW.
 
 Now, let me see; I put empty into the field thru the msg box and paste 
 (command -c) from Pages into the field. Everything is OK except the baseline 
 which is much too high, i.e., 3/4 of the text disappears atop (?) of the 
 field.
 
 What happens if you turn off fixedLineHeight for the field you are pasting 
 into?
 
 Devin
 
thanks for pointing this to me. The difference is that now (after allowing 
variable text height) the baseline is always consistent with the optical text 
size. However, the size info is lost when pasting is done from AppleWorks; and 
the optical sizes are different (like a 7% error) between the sources and the 
rev field.
This is on revstudio 3.5 running on snow leopard 10.6.2.

Very best
François



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Re: Pasting formatted text into Rev fields not possible on OS X

2009-11-11 Thread gmccarthy

Please see the earlier bug that I posted that explains what you are all
seeing:
http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7331
I posted this originally since I was having problems creating rtf files to
import into word due to inexact translation in the font size in runrev.

Note Olivers's comment:
 --- Comment  #1 From Oliver Kenyon  2008-10-28 06:55:41  [reply]
---
Hi Gerard,
Thanks for the report.
I can confirm this behavior, Revolution seems to converting font sizes
through
a number of fudge factors, both when displaying them and when producing
RTF.
We will have to investigate this further so we can work out how to make font
sizes more consistent.
Regards
Oliver


You can download the stack from this bug report and add your own experiments
with pasting and put the rtfText in a field and upload your stack to the bug
centre for all to compare.
Regards
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Formatted Text

2008-10-13 Thread Thomas Cole
I'm using Studio 2.8.1   I want to have a field into which information
will be placed when someone clicks a button. I want bolding and italics
and such to be in the field. However, when I format text in a field on
another card so that this text will be transferred to the other field,
the formatting disappears.
Put cd fld formattedtext into card fld wantsformattedtext doesn't
retain the formatting, bold, italic, etc.

What's the smart way to do this?

Thanks!
Tom

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Lecturer, American English and Culture Program
College of Extended Education
Arizona State University

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Re: Formatted Text

2008-10-13 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi Tom,

You can try to use the rtfText or htmlText properties. The put command  
transfers plain text, but if you set the rtfText of a field to the  
rtfText of another field, the formatting is preserved.


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On 14 okt 2008, at 00:03, Thomas Cole wrote:


I'm using Studio 2.8.1   I want to have a field into which information
will be placed when someone clicks a button. I want bolding and  
italics

and such to be in the field. However, when I format text in a field on
another card so that this text will be transferred to the other field,
the formatting disappears.
Put cd fld formattedtext into card fld wantsformattedtext doesn't
retain the formatting, bold, italic, etc.

What's the smart way to do this?

Thanks!
Tom


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Re: Formatted Text

2008-10-13 Thread Mark Swindell

This works:

set the htmlText of field x to the htmlText of field y



On Oct 13, 2008, at 3:03 PM, Thomas Cole wrote:


I'm using Studio 2.8.1   I want to have a field into which information
will be placed when someone clicks a button. I want bolding and  
italics

and such to be in the field. However, when I format text in a field on
another card so that this text will be transferred to the other field,
the formatting disappears.
Put cd fld formattedtext into card fld wantsformattedtext doesn't
retain the formatting, bold, italic, etc.

What's the smart way to do this?

Thanks!
Tom

Tom Cole
Lecturer, American English and Culture Program
College of Extended Education
Arizona State University

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Re: Pasting Formatted Text (was Re: A Revolution beginner seeks advice...)

2005-02-18 Thread xbury . cs
Karen,

I tested it too on windoze and no problem including them pagebreaks...
Although the lineheight wasn't respected (as expected), the rest came in 
ok.

cheers
Xavier

On 17.02.2005 20:23:39 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
Not sure what could be happening here, Karen. What platform are you on?
And what specific types of formatting are you using and losing?

When I copy a two-page Word document on OS X containing bold and
italicized type and paste it into a scrolling field in Rev, all the
formatting is retained. So I can't reproduce your problem. If you
provide more specifics, perhaps we can nail this down for you!

Dan

On Feb 17, 2005, at 5:42 AM, Karen wrote:

 One thing that puzzles me is the pasting of text from other
 applications
 into a Revolution edit field.  If there is a page break in a document
 (from
 Microsoft Word or from Pages) then the formatting is lost when I paste
 into
 my app's edit field.  However, text without a page break is OK.  Is
 there
 something I'm doing wrong?


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Pasting Formatted Text (was Re: A Revolution beginner seeks advice...)

2005-02-17 Thread Dan Shafer
Not sure what could be happening here, Karen. What platform are you on? 
And what specific types of formatting are you using and losing?

When I copy a two-page Word document on OS X containing bold and 
italicized type and paste it into a scrolling field in Rev, all the 
formatting is retained. So I can't reproduce your problem. If you 
provide more specifics, perhaps we can nail this down for you!

Dan
On Feb 17, 2005, at 5:42 AM, Karen wrote:
One thing that puzzles me is the pasting of text from other 
applications
into a Revolution edit field.  If there is a page break in a document 
(from
Microsoft Word or from Pages) then the formatting is lost when I paste 
into
my app's edit field.  However, text without a page break is OK.  Is 
there
something I'm doing wrong?

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Re: Pasting Formatted Text

2005-02-17 Thread Karen
Thanks very much Dan, you are correct - I went back and tried again with a
document created in Word and it was all OK.

It just seems to be Apple's Pages program that is the problem.  Word retains
the format when I paste from Pages into Word, but then pasting from Word
into Revolution loses the font type, size and colour - plus anything such as
bold formatting.  Similarly, pasting directly from Pages loses the
formatting.  However, if I paste using text generated in a number of other
programs it all works (this is running under Mac OS X 10.3.8).

I guess that Apple is doing something funny with Pages...

Thanks for taking the time to reply, I think that I should buy your book now
if/when I buy Revolution :-).

Karen

On 17/2/05 8:27 pm, Dan Shafer wrote:

 Message: 10
 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:23:39 -0800
 From: Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Pasting Formatted Text (was Re: A Revolution beginner seeks
 advice...)
 To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
 
 Not sure what could be happening here, Karen. What platform are you on?
 And what specific types of formatting are you using and losing?
 
 When I copy a two-page Word document on OS X containing bold and
 italicized type and paste it into a scrolling field in Rev, all the
 formatting is retained. So I can't reproduce your problem. If you
 provide more specifics, perhaps we can nail this down for you!
 
 Dan


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Re: Pasting Formatted Text

2005-02-17 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Pages is using XML just like Keynote for all of the styles etc.
The XML can be accessed and manipulated if needed.
Tom
On Feb 17, 2005, at 5:55 PM, Karen wrote:
Similarly, pasting directly from Pages loses the
formatting.

I guess that Apple is doing something funny with Pages...
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Re: Pasting Formatted Text

2005-02-17 Thread Dan Shafer
On Feb 17, 2005, at 2:55 PM, Karen wrote:
I guess that Apple is doing something funny with Pages...
Now that would be a first! NOT
Thanks for taking the time to reply, I think that I should buy your 
book now
if/when I buy Revolution :-).

I hope you decide to use Rev whether or not you buy my book. I hate to 
see people using hard-to-use development tools with Rev around!

Dan
Karen
On 17/2/05 8:27 pm, Dan Shafer wrote:
Message: 10
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:23:39 -0800
From: Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Pasting Formatted Text (was Re: A Revolution beginner seeks
advice...)
To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
Not sure what could be happening here, Karen. What platform are you 
on?
And what specific types of formatting are you using and losing?

When I copy a two-page Word document on OS X containing bold and
italicized type and paste it into a scrolling field in Rev, all the
formatting is retained. So I can't reproduce your problem. If you
provide more specifics, perhaps we can nail this down for you!
Dan

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Rtf - formatted text question

2003-06-04 Thread Duane Poncy
Hello, I hope somebody can help out a newbie.

I am programming an EnglishCherokeeEnglish dictionary. Because I am 
very poor, I have to use the free edition of Revolution, so my code has 
to be tight.  Here is my problem:  I need to use character formatting 
in my definition field, but I can't figure out how to do that. 

My stack script:

on preOpen
  set the rtfText of field tsalagiData to URL 
file:TsalagitoEnglishTest.rtf
  set itemDelimiter to tab
  repeat for each line thisLine in field TsalagiData
put item 1 of thisLine  linefeed after field wordlist   
  end repeat
end preOpen

--this puts my tab delimited rtf file into an invisible field 
tsalagiData, then puts the first chunk (the english word) into the 
field wordlist.  This works fine, except that importing the rtf file, 
for some reason, strips out all of my semicolons, which I need for 
formatting (see below).

My script for the field wordlist:

on mouseDown
  put the selectedText of field wordlist into field EnglishWord
  put word 2 of clickLine() into listLine
  select line listLine of field TsalagiData
  set itemDelimiter to tab
  put item 2 of the selectedText of field TsalagiData into field 
TsalagiDefine
  replace ; with return in field TsalagiDefine
end mouseDown

This also works fine, except when (Item 2) is put in the field 
TsalagiDefine the character formatting is gone. (Item 1, used above, 
doesn't need formatting.)

Is there any way to move rtf text from one field to another and retain 
the formatting?
Why are my semicolons stripped when I import my rtf file?

Thanks.


Duane Poncy

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RE: Rtf - formatted text question

2003-06-04 Thread Ken Ray
Duane,

Do you have to use RTF? The reason I ask is that the HTMLText manages
styles a lot better than RTF, and even if you use RTF for your import,
I'd use HTMLText to move styled data from one field to another:

  set the htmlText of fld 2 to the htmlText of fld 1

As to why semicolons are stripped in RTF import... I don't know. Any
chance you could use some other delimiter?

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
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Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Duane Poncy
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 12:27 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Rtf - formatted text question
 
 
 Hello, I hope somebody can help out a newbie.
 
 I am programming an EnglishCherokeeEnglish dictionary. Because I am 
 very poor, I have to use the free edition of Revolution, so 
 my code has 
 to be tight.  Here is my problem:  I need to use character formatting 
 in my definition field, but I can't figure out how to do that. 
 
 My stack script:
 
 on preOpen
   set the rtfText of field tsalagiData to URL 
 file:TsalagitoEnglishTest.rtf
   set itemDelimiter to tab
   repeat for each line thisLine in field TsalagiData
 put item 1 of thisLine  linefeed after field wordlist   
   end repeat
 end preOpen
 
 --this puts my tab delimited rtf file into an invisible field 
 tsalagiData, then puts the first chunk (the english word) into the 
 field wordlist.  This works fine, except that importing the 
 rtf file, 
 for some reason, strips out all of my semicolons, which I need for 
 formatting (see below).
 
 My script for the field wordlist:
 
 on mouseDown
   put the selectedText of field wordlist into field EnglishWord
   put word 2 of clickLine() into listLine
   select line listLine of field TsalagiData
   set itemDelimiter to tab
   put item 2 of the selectedText of field TsalagiData into field 
 TsalagiDefine
   replace ; with return in field TsalagiDefine
 end mouseDown
 
 This also works fine, except when (Item 2) is put in the field 
 TsalagiDefine the character formatting is gone. (Item 1, 
 used above, 
 doesn't need formatting.)
 
 Is there any way to move rtf text from one field to another 
 and retain 
 the formatting?
 Why are my semicolons stripped when I import my rtf file?
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Duane Poncy
 
 visit Elohi Gadugi: poetry, software, 
 Cherokee culture and Native American rights. 
 http://dsaoregon.igc.org/tsalagi/
 
 
 
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 On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing.  - Arundhati Roy
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Re: Rtr-formatted text question

2003-06-04 Thread Duane Poncy
Ken, I tried your suggestion, but it doesn't do what I need it to do. 
It moved all of the text from field1 to field2.  Selecting a chunk of 
the field doesn't work either. What I need to do is move a chunk of a 
single line of selected text from the field with the formatting intact. 
 

Can this be done???

Thank you.
Duane Poncy

Original Message:
 From: Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Rtf - formatted text question
 Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 01:06:04 -0500
 Organization: Sons of Thunder Software
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Duane,
 
 Do you have to use RTF? The reason I ask is that the HTMLText manages
 styles a lot better than RTF, and even if you use RTF for your import,
 I'd use HTMLText to move styled data from one field to another:
 
   set the htmlText of fld 2 to the htmlText of fld 1
 
 As to why semicolons are stripped in RTF import... I don't know. Any
 chance you could use some other delimiter?
 
 Ken Ray
 Sons of Thunder Software
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Duane Poncy
  Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 12:27 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Rtf - formatted text question
  
  
  Hello, I hope somebody can help out a newbie.
  
  I am programming an EnglishCherokeeEnglish dictionary. Because I am 
  very poor, I have to use the free edition of Revolution, so 
  my code has 
  to be tight.  Here is my problem:  I need to use character formatting 
  in my definition field, but I can't figure out how to do that. 
  
  My stack script:
  
  on preOpen
set the rtfText of field tsalagiData to URL 
  file:TsalagitoEnglishTest.rtf
set itemDelimiter to tab
repeat for each line thisLine in field TsalagiData
  put item 1 of thisLine  linefeed after field wordlist   
end repeat
  end preOpen
  
  --this puts my tab delimited rtf file into an invisible field 
  tsalagiData, then puts the first chunk (the english word) into the 
  field wordlist.  This works fine, except that importing the 
  rtf file, 
  for some reason, strips out all of my semicolons, which I need for 
  formatting (see below).
  
  My script for the field wordlist:
  
  on mouseDown
put the selectedText of field wordlist into field EnglishWord
put word 2 of clickLine() into listLine
select line listLine of field TsalagiData
set itemDelimiter to tab
put item 2 of the selectedText of field TsalagiData into field 
  TsalagiDefine
replace ; with return in field TsalagiDefine
  end mouseDown
  
  This also works fine, except when (Item 2) is put in the field 
  TsalagiDefine the character formatting is gone. (Item 1, 
  used above, 
  doesn't need formatting.)
  
  Is there any way to move rtf text from one field to another 
  and retain 
  the formatting?
  Why are my semicolons stripped when I import my rtf file?
  
  Thanks.
  
  
  Duane Poncy


Duane Poncy

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RE: Rtr-formatted text question

2003-06-04 Thread Ken Ray
Duane,

Sorry, I didn't know you wanted a chunk. You can do the same thing, just
include the chunk in your expression, like:

  set the htmlText of fld 2 to the htmlText of word 4 to 7 of fld 1

Let me know if this works or not...

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
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 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 9:52 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Rtr-formatted text question
 
 
 Ken, I tried your suggestion, but it doesn't do what I need it to do. 
 It moved all of the text from field1 to field2.  Selecting a chunk of 
 the field doesn't work either. What I need to do is move a chunk of a 
 single line of selected text from the field with the 
 formatting intact. 
  
 
 Can this be done???
 
 Thank you.
 Duane Poncy
 
 Original Message:
  From: Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Rtf - formatted text question
  Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 01:06:04 -0500
  Organization: Sons of Thunder Software
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Duane,
  
  Do you have to use RTF? The reason I ask is that the 
 HTMLText manages 
  styles a lot better than RTF, and even if you use RTF for 
 your import, 
  I'd use HTMLText to move styled data from one field to another:
  
set the htmlText of fld 2 to the htmlText of fld 1
  
  As to why semicolons are stripped in RTF import... I don't 
 know. Any 
  chance you could use some other delimiter?
  
  Ken Ray
  Sons of Thunder Software
  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
   Duane Poncy
   Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 12:27 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Rtf - formatted text question
   
   
   Hello, I hope somebody can help out a newbie.
   
   I am programming an EnglishCherokeeEnglish dictionary. 
 Because I 
  am
   very poor, I have to use the free edition of Revolution, so 
   my code has 
   to be tight.  Here is my problem:  I need to use 
 character formatting 
   in my definition field, but I can't figure out how to do that. 
   
   My stack script:
   
   on preOpen
 set the rtfText of field tsalagiData to URL
   file:TsalagitoEnglishTest.rtf
 set itemDelimiter to tab
 repeat for each line thisLine in field TsalagiData
   put item 1 of thisLine  linefeed after field wordlist   
 end repeat
   end preOpen
   
   --this puts my tab delimited rtf file into an invisible field
   tsalagiData, then puts the first chunk (the english 
 word) into the 
   field wordlist.  This works fine, except that importing the 
   rtf file, 
   for some reason, strips out all of my semicolons, which I 
 need for 
   formatting (see below).
   
   My script for the field wordlist:
   
   on mouseDown
 put the selectedText of field wordlist into field 
 EnglishWord
 put word 2 of clickLine() into listLine
 select line listLine of field TsalagiData
 set itemDelimiter to tab
 put item 2 of the selectedText of field TsalagiData into field
   TsalagiDefine
 replace ; with return in field TsalagiDefine
   end mouseDown
   
   This also works fine, except when (Item 2) is put in the field
   TsalagiDefine the character formatting is gone. (Item 1, 
   used above, 
   doesn't need formatting.)
   
   Is there any way to move rtf text from one field to another
   and retain 
   the formatting?
   Why are my semicolons stripped when I import my rtf file?
   
   Thanks.
   
   
   Duane Poncy
 
 
 Duane Poncy
 
 visit Elohi Gadugi: poetry, software, 
 Cherokee culture and Native American rights. 
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