Re: Had Revolution for over a year and I still can't run a stack file

2006-04-10 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, J. Landman Gay wrote:

 I know the answer to that one, I think. It happens when you use the
 message box to show a file dialog (or when you have been typing into a
 field) and hit the return key to execute the command. When typing, the
 mouse pointer normally is hidden (replaced by the insertion point). If
 you open a file dialog while the insertion point is present, the mouse
 pointer doesn't reappear when the file dialog opens.
 
 I bugzillaed it some time ago.
 
 And just to follow up, it appears to have been fixed in 2.7. Bugzilla
 pays off. ;)

Well, it still happens here intermittently here (looking for a recipe).
Just tried it in Rev 2.7, OSX 10.3.9.  In a new Rev session, the first time
I executed the following in the message box:

  answer file Locate:

The cursor disappeared.  I went off to start writing email, came back to
double check, and now the cursor remains visible during the above.

May be sunspots or something else, but I'll see if I can get some kind of
recipe.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia  Design
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Re: Had Revolution for over a year and I still can't run a stack file

2006-04-09 Thread Alex Tweedly

Chipp Walters wrote:


Hi Len,

Sorry to hear you're having problems. I've been running all versions 
of Rev since 1.0 and haven't seen it on XP, though I have no doubt it 
exists.


Here's a suggestion you might try. It has to do with your video 
drivers. Turns out the Rev engine is very sensitive to outdated drivers.



Now launch Rev and see if the cursor problem still exists. If it's 
fixed, then it means you have a conflict with the grapchics drivers. 
My suggestion is to go get the latest version of the drivers. That 
usually fixes things.


I tried this - and it seemed to work !!
Wonderful, I thought. Switched back to full acceleration - and it still 
worked.


Turns out I don't have this problem at all with Rev 2.6.1 on my new 
laptop. Don't know whether it was the Rev version or the newer hardware 
(probably with newer drivers) that made the difference.



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Had Revolution for over a year and I still can't run a stack file

2006-04-08 Thread Len Morgan
I have had Rev for over a year now (Studio version) and I STILL cannot 
run a stack file (by double clicking on it OR using Open With...) and 
have a cursor show up.  As soon as the pointer enters anywhere in the 
stack window, it disappears.  I't's still there because if I carefully 
move it, I can press buttons and enter text and such but I just can't 
see the cursor.


Surely not everyone has this problem because it tends to make the 
product useless.  I asked this question over a year ago and never got 
the problem fixed.  I'm running 2.7.1 on WinXP (and I've tried every 
version from 2.5 on and DreamCard) always with the same result.  I'd 
really like to use this product but it you can only see a cursor when 
you have the IDE running, it would be pointless to develop anything for 
a customer.


Please tell me what I'm doing wrong

Len Morgan.
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Re: Had Revolution for over a year and I still can't run a stack file

2006-04-08 Thread Alex Tweedly

Len Morgan wrote:

I have had Rev for over a year now (Studio version) and I STILL cannot 
run a stack file (by double clicking on it OR using Open With...) 
and have a cursor show up.  As soon as the pointer enters anywhere in 
the stack window, it disappears.  I't's still there because if I 
carefully move it, I can press buttons and enter text and such but I 
just can't see the cursor.


It's a bug, in the Win version (BZ 2138 which I entered in September 
2004). Unfortunately, that BZ was against Dreamcard Player - and was 
therefore entered as an enhancement request. I think (according to the 
comments added by Mark W.) that it has not been dealt with because of 
possible conflict it would cause in the Mac OS9 version. If so, that's 
an astonishingly poor prioritization between OS9 and Windows.


Around that time (September through December 2004) I had pretty much 
concluded that anything I did in Bugzilla was a waste of time, so I 
didn't bother pushing this problem. I now know that, in general, 
Bugzilla entries will eventually be looked at - but I've not had any 
reason to focus on this one and go back and push it. If it's a major 
hassle for you (see below), then you should add your experience / 
feelings as an additional comment to BZ 2138, and change the 
status/priority to represent the impact it is having on you.


Surely not everyone has this problem because it tends to make the 
product useless.  I asked this question over a year ago and never got 
the problem fixed.  I'm running 2.7.1 on WinXP (and I've tried every 
version from 2.5 on and DreamCard) always with the same result.  I'd 
really like to use this product but it you can only see a cursor when 
you have the IDE running, it would be pointless to develop anything 
for a customer.


If you are developing for a customer, I believe you should build and 
distribute standalones - and this problem does not happen in a 
standalone. (I guess I should say - I always see this problem when 
double-clicking a stack file, and have never seen it in a standalone :-)


It would be nice if you could distribute stacks and an adequate Player - 
but Dreamcard Player was never, IMO, adequate. I haven't tried Ken's 
Stackrunner because by the time that appeared, I was in the habit of 
building standalones, and decided to stick with that.


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Re: Had Revolution for over a year and I still can't run a stack file

2006-04-08 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Len Morgan wrote:

 I have had Rev for over a year now (Studio version) and I STILL cannot
 run a stack file (by double clicking on it OR using Open With...) and
 have a cursor show up.  As soon as the pointer enters anywhere in the
 stack window, it disappears.  I't's still there because if I carefully
 move it, I can press buttons and enter text and such but I just can't
 see the cursor.

You know, this occurs in the MetaCard IDE as well when a the 'open file'
dialog is present and I've never been able to figure out why.  With enough
jostling of the cursor into and out of the dialog's rect, I can usually get
the cursor to reappear again, but I have no formula as of yet.

Sorry no solution, just a confirmation of (intermittent) behavior.  Chipp
Walters and I batted around solution to the stuck cursor issue that arises
with text entry fields but I'm not sure this would work in a situation where
a modal dialog is present.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia  Design
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Re: Had Revolution for over a year and I still can't run a stack file

2006-04-08 Thread J. Landman Gay

Scott Rossi wrote:

Recently, Len Morgan wrote:



I have had Rev for over a year now (Studio version) and I STILL cannot
run a stack file (by double clicking on it OR using Open With...) and
have a cursor show up.  As soon as the pointer enters anywhere in the
stack window, it disappears.  I't's still there because if I carefully
move it, I can press buttons and enter text and such but I just can't
see the cursor.



You know, this occurs in the MetaCard IDE as well when a the 'open file'
dialog is present and I've never been able to figure out why.


I know the answer to that one, I think. It happens when you use the 
message box to show a file dialog (or when you have been typing into a 
field) and hit the return key to execute the command. When typing, the 
mouse pointer normally is hidden (replaced by the insertion point). If 
you open a file dialog while the insertion point is present, the mouse 
pointer doesn't reappear when the file dialog opens.


I bugzillaed it some time ago. The workaround for now is to jiggle the 
mouse before executing the command from the message box. I always forget 
to do that, of course.


This is different from the disappearing Windows cursor, which I thought 
got fixed before the last release. Does it still happen in 2.7?


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Re: Had Revolution for over a year and I still can't run a stack file

2006-04-08 Thread J. Landman Gay

J. Landman Gay wrote:

I know the answer to that one, I think. It happens when you use the 
message box to show a file dialog (or when you have been typing into a 
field) and hit the return key to execute the command. When typing, the 
mouse pointer normally is hidden (replaced by the insertion point). If 
you open a file dialog while the insertion point is present, the mouse 
pointer doesn't reappear when the file dialog opens.


I bugzillaed it some time ago.


And just to follow up, it appears to have been fixed in 2.7. Bugzilla 
pays off. ;)


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Re: Had Revolution for over a year and I still can't run a stack file

2006-04-08 Thread Alex Tweedly

J. Landman Gay wrote:



This is different from the disappearing Windows cursor, which I 
thought got fixed before the last release. Does it still happen in 2.7?


Haven't yet upgraded to 2.7 (and probably won't until 2.7.1), so I can't 
answer that directly.


But I would have to guess not, since the BZ entry for it hasn't been 
updated.


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Re: Had Revolution for over a year and I still can't run a stack file

2006-04-08 Thread Chipp Walters

Hi Len,

Sorry to hear you're having problems. I've been running all versions of 
Rev since 1.0 and haven't seen it on XP, though I have no doubt it exists.


Here's a suggestion you might try. It has to do with your video drivers. 
Turns out the Rev engine is very sensitive to outdated drivers.


To check it, do the following:

Right-click on the desktop and choose Properties
Go to the Settings Tab and click on the Advanced button there.

Click the Troubleshoot tab.

Slide the Hardware Acceleration slider fully to the left (None).

Click Apply, then OK.

Now launch Rev and see if the cursor problem still exists. If it's 
fixed, then it means you have a conflict with the grapchics drivers. My 
suggestion is to go get the latest version of the drivers. That usually 
fixes things.


Hope this helps.

best,

Chipp


Len Morgan wrote:


Please tell me what I'm doing wrong


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