Re: How to put a minus in menu
Thanks Devin Richmond, Devin wrote : You could try using an en-dash instead of a hyphen. I have no idea what an en-dash is (nor does my dictionary). can you please explain it to me , Devin? Richmond wrote : Try Hex 2013 / Decimal 8211 set the useUnicode to true This works fine and also will overcome the platform differences. Great. Greetings, Beat ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to put a minus in menu
On Jun 12, 2009, at 8:14 AM, Beat Cornaz wrote: Thanks Devin Richmond, Devin wrote : You could try using an en-dash instead of a hyphen. I have no idea what an en-dash is (nor does my dictionary). can you please explain it to me , Devin? Sorry, I meant to explain but got in a rush. In typography there are three dash characters—the hyphen, a standard ASCII character as code point 45, and the en dash and em dash. In printed texts the en dash, so called because its length is equal to the width of the letter 'n' in the given font, is used to show things like date ranges, as in 1 – 5 March. The length of the em dash equal to the width of the letter 'm' in the given font. It is used as a true dash, as when using parenthetical or elaborative comments such as On modern operating systems we no longer have to use the double hyphen—instead we use the em dash, as you see in this sentence. The trouble with em and en dashes is that they are in so-called upper ASCII, meaning their code points are different in MacRoman vs. Windows CP-1251 or ISO 8859-1. On the Mac you use option + hyphen to produce an en dash and shift + option + hyphen to produce an em dash. On Windows en dash can be typed with ctrl + numeric keypad hyphen and em dash using ctrl + alt + numeric keypad hyphen. In MacRoman, en and em dashes are ASCII 208 and 209 respectively; in CP 1251 and ISO 8859-1 they are ASCII 150 and 151 respectively. The HTML escape entities are ndash; and endash; unfortunately these entities are not part of the subset of HTML that Rev understands. Instead you have to use the numeric values #150; and #151;. Probabaly more than you wanted to know, but there it is. :-) Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to put a minus in menu
On Jun 12, 2009, at 8:45 AM, Devin Asay wrote: The HTML escape entities are ndash; and endash; Oops. That should be ndash; and mdash; :-/ Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to put a minus in menu
If one could be bothered one could probably draw up a table of unicode references to characters such as -, + and so on that caused cross-platofrm problems. Beat Cornaz wrote: Thanks Devin Richmond, Devin wrote : You could try using an en-dash instead of a hyphen. I have no idea what an en-dash is (nor does my dictionary). can you please explain it to me , Devin? Richmond wrote : Try Hex 2013 / Decimal 8211 set the useUnicode to true This works fine and also will overcome the platform differences. Great. Greetings, Beat ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to put a minus in menu
What a great explanation, Devin. It is more than I paid for :-) I never realized how deep this typography goes. All those little nuances. Great. I find it very interesting and I know now who to turn to if I meet a problem in this area :-) Richmond wrote : If one could be bothered one could probably draw up a table of unicode references to characters such as -, + and so on that caused cross-platofrm problems. That would be very handy indeed. Maybe there is something like that on the web. Thanks again guys, Beat ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to put a minus in menu
Le 12 juin 09 à 20:27, Beat Cornaz a écrit : What a great explanation, Devin. It is more than I paid for :-) I never realized how deep this typography goes. All those little nuances. Great. I find it very interesting and I know now who to turn to if I meet a problem in this area :-) Richmond wrote : If one could be bothered one could probably draw up a table of unicode references to characters such as -, + and so on that caused cross-platofrm problems. That would be very handy indeed. Maybe there is something like that on the web. XeTeX is a variant of LaTeX, a typesetting language, with full support for unicode openType fonts, hyphenations in exotic languages, etc... They have a mailing list xe...@tug.org and the people there will be very happy to answer your query. Many of them are quite versed in unicode encoding. François ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to put a minus in menu
Thanks Joe and Klaus, but with the minus sign the back slash does not work. I still get the separation line if minus is preceded by back slash. The backslash works otherwise, but not for the minus sign. I had found the solution with the empty space, but it is not neat. So Klaus, your enhancement request is supported. greetings, Beat ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to put a minus in menu
On Jun 11, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Beat Cornaz wrote: Thanks Joe and Klaus, but with the minus sign the back slash does not work. I still get the separation line if minus is preceded by back slash. The backslash works otherwise, but not for the minus sign. I had found the solution with the empty space, but it is not neat. So Klaus, your enhancement request is supported. You could try using an en-dash instead of a hyphen. Problem is you'd have to account for Mac/Windows differences. On Mac it's ASCII 208, on Windows ASCII 150. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to put a minus in menu
Try Hex 2013 / Decimal 8211 set the useUnicode to true (alt MINUS on a Mac) Devin Asay wrote: On Jun 11, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Beat Cornaz wrote: Thanks Joe and Klaus, but with the minus sign the back slash does not work. I still get the separation line if minus is preceded by back slash. The backslash works otherwise, but not for the minus sign. I had found the solution with the empty space, but it is not neat. So Klaus, your enhancement request is supported. You could try using an en-dash instead of a hyphen. Problem is you'd have to account for Mac/Windows differences. On Mac it's ASCII 208, on Windows ASCII 150. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How to put a minus in menu
How do I put a starting minus (e.g. -4) in a menu item? The minus gets interpreted as a separation line and nothing I tried worked. Also in the manual there was nothing. Greetings, Beat ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to put a minus in menu
How about preceding the minus with a back slash? Joe Wilkins On Jun 10, 2009, at 8:50 AM, Beat Cornaz wrote: How do I put a starting minus (e.g. -4) in a menu item? The minus gets interpreted as a separation line and nothing I tried worked. Also in the manual there was nothing. Greetings, Beat ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to put a minus in menu
Hi Beat, How do I put a starting minus (e.g. -4) in a menu item? The minus gets interpreted as a separation line and nothing I tried worked. Also in the manual there was nothing. Check this enhancement request: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=5822 As Joe already pointed out you can escape the - sign. Greetings, Beat Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
