Re-2: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 stacks)

2008-10-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all, 

thanks for the advise list! I checked the suggestions - and I think I have 
found the point
I have identified the problem but do not understand it (and the idea about the 
edit menu of malte has helped me finding):

I have a navigation background in all the stacks (=above all in the event 
hierarchy). I have made a test stack consisting only of some fields and this 
background group. With the background in it I cannot paste in the fields, after 
deleting the background I can.

I have deleted the script in the background = the problem is the same therefore 
not in the script (I had no paste routines there).

It is only the group object (marked as background without any further special 
details) which causes this behaviour that I cannot paste (Strg-V) into the 
fields of the stack where this background is included. Does the event STRG-V = 
paste be stopped by a background generally?

I have put the teststack into URL
http://animabit.de/runrev/test.rev
and a standalone loading this stack into
http://animabit.de/runrev/test.exe

If anyone wants to test this behaviour.

Regards, Franz
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Subject: Re: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 
stacks) (30-Sep-2008 15:15)
From:Malte Brill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


hi,

may sound stupid. Have you tried adding a menubar that has an edit 
menu to the main stack? If not could you try and see if you can paste 
then? If so I might be close to a godzilla report.

Cheers,

Malte
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Re: Re-2: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 stacks)

2008-10-01 Thread Chipp Walters
I'm on WinXP and I have no problem cutting and pasting text on your
demo stack using Rev 3.0.
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Re-4: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 stacks)

2008-10-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Chipp:

In the IDE or in a standalone?
I only have the problem when running in the standalone!

Regards, Franz

Original Messageprocessed by David InfoCenter 
Subject: Re: Re-2: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 
stacks) (01-Okt-2008 9:32)
From:Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I'm on WinXP and I have no problem cutting and pasting text on your
demo stack using Rev 3.0.
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Re: Re-4: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 stacks)

2008-10-01 Thread Chipp Walters
I'm using the IDE. I cannot debug the standalone.
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Re-6: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 stacks)

2008-10-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello Chipp.

Thanks you very much!

the http://animabit.de/runrev/test.exe is a 2.9 standalone which loads the 
runrev stack with the same name in the same dir. If someone wants to download  
both files in a dir and test it.

The Problem are the menuitems in the background group in a standalone. If I 
delete the menuitems and just put a button in the background group it works in 
the standalone.

If anyone had the time to make a windows standalone out of the test.rev stack 
with 3.0 we could see whether the problem is still alive or solved.


Thanks for your testing.

Regards, Franz 

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stacks) (01-Okt-2008 10:35)
From:Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I'm using the IDE. I cannot debug the standalone.
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Re: Re-6: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 stacks)

2008-10-01 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins

Hi Franz,

I downloaded the standalone and attempted to run it on my Intel Mac  
with Leopard running XP under VMWare's Fusion. It wouldn't open at  
all, so I have no idea what your problem may be.


Joe Wilkins

On Oct 1, 2008, at 1:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello Chipp.

Thanks you very much!

the http://animabit.de/runrev/test.exe is a 2.9 standalone which  
loads the runrev stack with the same name in the same dir. If  
someone wants to download  both files in a dir and test it.


The Problem are the menuitems in the background group in a  
standalone. If I delete the menuitems and just put a button in the  
background group it works in the standalone.


If anyone had the time to make a windows standalone out of the  
test.rev stack with 3.0 we could see whether the problem is still  
alive or solved.



Thanks for your testing.

Regards, Franz







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Re-6: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 stacks)

2008-10-01 Thread Malte Brill

Hi Franz,

also does not work with a 3.0 Standalone. Please report this to QCC.  
XP Pro, german.


All the best,

Malte
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Re: Re-6: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 stacks)

2008-10-01 Thread Mark Wieder
Franz-

Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 1:45:33 AM, you wrote:

 the http://animabit.de/runrev/test.exe is a 2.9 standalone which
 loads the runrev stack with the same name in the same dir. If
 someone wants to download  both files in a dir and test it.

 The Problem are the menuitems in the background group in a
 standalone. If I delete the menuitems and just put a button in the
 background group it works in the standalone.

Here's your problem: in your background menu group you have defined
the control-V keyboard sequence, so you're trapping it from the
keyboard in your Bearbeiten button but you haven't put in any code to
process it.

You can paste into the fields with control-shift-insert, so the paste
mechanism is working fine in the standalone. You can change the
keyboard equivalent for the paste operation in your menu, or you can
put some paste code in the menu handler.

on menuPick pChoice
 answer I got it
end menuPick

Now... here's where I think this is still a bug... if you disable the
Bearbeiten button then you obviously can't select it with the mouse.
But it *still traps the control-V keyboard sequence*. I think
disabling the button should disable the keyboard traps as well.

-- 
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Re-8: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 stacks)

2008-10-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello 

thanks for the good info, Mark!
I have a menuPick handler in the script of the main stack to handle all menus.

After opening the group in the menueditor I saw what you mean. 
Where in the group menu does runrev store this information about shortcuts?


Regards, Franz


Original Messageprocessed by David InfoCenter 
Subject: Re: Re-6: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 
stacks) (01-Okt-2008 18:06)
From:Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Franz-

Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 1:45:33 AM, you wrote:

 the http://animabit.de/runrev/test.exe is a 2.9 standalone which
 loads the runrev stack with the same name in the same dir. If
 someone wants to download both files in a dir and test it.

 The Problem are the menuitems in the background group in a
 standalone. If I delete the menuitems and just put a button in the
 background group it works in the standalone.

Here's your problem: in your background menu group you have defined
the control-V keyboard sequence, so you're trapping it from the
keyboard in your Bearbeiten button but you haven't put in any code to
process it.

You can paste into the fields with control-shift-insert, so the paste
mechanism is working fine in the standalone. You can change the
keyboard equivalent for the paste operation in your menu, or you can
put some paste code in the menu handler.

on menuPick pChoice
answer I got it
end menuPick

Now... here's where I think this is still a bug... if you disable the
Bearbeiten button then you obviously can't select it with the mouse.
But it *still traps the control-V keyboard sequence*. I think
disabling the button should disable the keyboard traps as well.

-- 
-Mark Wieder
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Re-8: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 stacks)

2008-10-01 Thread Mark Wieder
Franz-

Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 9:52:51 AM, you wrote:

 Where in the group menu does runrev store this information about shortcuts?

Now *that's* a good question. Since your original stack works in the
IDE but not a standalone, I'd guess that the process of building the
standalone binds the keyboard equivalents, but I don't have a clue as
to when or where this happens.

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I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 stacks)

2008-09-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello,

I have an application with up to 7 stacks where I cannot paste in the fields. 
What did I do to set this feature - I do not find the clue. Any idea?

Regards, Franz
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AW: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 stacks)

2008-09-30 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Franz,
assuming you checked the standard properties like lock text in and out,
could it be, that you just don't see the text, because it has a couple of
CRs at the beginning and doesn't fit in your fields?
Probably useless to ask for
Tiemo

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 I have an application with up to 7 stacks where I cannot paste in the
 fields. What did I do to set this feature - I do not find the clue. Any
 idea?
 
 Regards, Franz
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Re: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 stacks)

2008-09-30 Thread Neal Campbell
Franz

Are you using PC or OS X? I had a similar situation on the PC version
this weekend and never figured out what it was. Moved over to OS X for
the project.

Neal

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 3:48 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 I have an application with up to 7 stacks where I cannot paste in the fields. 
 What did I do to set this feature - I do not find the clue. Any idea?

 Regards, Franz
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Re: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 stacks)

2008-09-30 Thread Malte Brill

hi,

may sound stupid. Have you tried adding a menubar that has an edit  
menu to the main stack? If not could you try and see if you can paste  
then? If so I might be close to a godzilla report.


Cheers,

Malte
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Re: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 stacks)

2008-09-30 Thread Ben Rubinstein

Neal Campbell wrote:

Are you using PC or OS X? I had a similar situation on the PC version
this weekend and never figured out what it was. Moved over to OS X for
the project.
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 3:48 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have an application with up to 7 stacks where I cannot paste in the fields. What did I 
do to set this feature - I do not find the clue. Any idea?


Franz,

This may not be it - you don't say whether you can do other typing in the 
fields - but I've been utterly stumped in the past by fields that I can only 
edit using the property inspector (or otherwise programmatically).  I finally 
tracked it down to the autoHilite property - this is presented on the first 
tab of the property inspector for fields, and the documentation on it is very 
clear, so I don't really have an excuse - but the behaviour has nothing to do 
with the name, so it's nonetheless very confusing.


The effect of autoHilite on a button is exactly what you'd expect.  The effect 
on a field is that if this property is false, you/the user can't select the 
text or set the insertion point - and hence can't type or paste into the 
field.  (Depending on the 'focusable' property - you may still be able to tab 
into the field.)


This may have nothing to do with your problem, but it's worth checking.

- Ben

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Re: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 stacks)

2008-09-30 Thread Devin Asay


On Sep 30, 2008, at 7:33 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote:


Neal Campbell wrote:

Are you using PC or OS X? I had a similar situation on the PC version
this weekend and never figured out what it was. Moved over to OS X  
for

the project.
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 3:48 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
I have an application with up to 7 stacks where I cannot paste in  
the fields. What did I do to set this feature - I do not find  
the clue. Any idea?


Franz,

This may not be it - you don't say whether you can do other typing  
in the
fields - but I've been utterly stumped in the past by fields that I  
can only
edit using the property inspector (or otherwise programmatically).   
I finally
tracked it down to the autoHilite property - this is presented on  
the first
tab of the property inspector for fields, and the documentation on  
it is very
clear, so I don't really have an excuse - but the behaviour has  
nothing to do

with the name, so it's nonetheless very confusing.

The effect of autoHilite on a button is exactly what you'd expect.   
The effect
on a field is that if this property is false, you/the user can't  
select the
text or set the insertion point - and hence can't type or paste into  
the
field.  (Depending on the 'focusable' property - you may still be  
able to tab

into the field.)

This may have nothing to do with your problem, but it's worth  
checking.


Along these lines, if you want your field to be editable, the  
following three properties should be set to true. Each of them  
represents a different reason why you might not be able to type in a  
field:


the lockText - obvious
the traversalOn - (controlled by the Focusable checkbox) if false,  
prevents you from focusing on the field with mouse or tab key
the autoHilite - if false, prevents user from clicking to select text  
or an input cursor. I believe you can still tab to the field however.


HTH

Devin

Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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