Re: Imported Images Are Darker

2002-12-09 Thread Howard Bornstein
 Thanks Chipp! In PS 5.5, I changed the gamma from 2.2 to 1.8 and the
 images in photoshop now look the same as in Rev.

...on a Mac.

I think the default gamma setting was changed in PS to more closely match
the default setting for the other 95% of computer users.

I'd be interested in hearing how the images appear in Windows.

Personally, I run my Mac at 2.2 so I can see the world as most others will
see it.

Yes Richard, you're correct. This was on a Mac. I sort of forgot about 
the whole gamma issue and was glad to be able to know why the images 
appeared differently in PS and in Rev. In fact, the images in Rev while 
on Windows look the same as they do in PS, but not the same in Rev on a 
Mac. 

Now that I understand the issues, I think in the future I'll use the 2.2 
gamma in photoshop and for my cross-platform applications, design for 
Windows. Then I'll use the screengamma command when the app detects it's 
on a Mac to make the color appearance the same.

I've long wondered:  does the Mac use the non-standard gamma for an
objectively verifiable benefit, or was this just another Jobs thang?

Good question. I have no idea. :-)

Regards,

Howard Bornstein

D E S I G N  E Q
www.designeq.com

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Re: Imported Images Are Darker

2002-12-09 Thread Richard Gaskin
Howard Bornstein wrote:

 I've long wondered:  does the Mac use the non-standard gamma for an
 objectively verifiable benefit, or was this just another Jobs thang?
 
 Good question. I have no idea. :-)

As Martin Baxtor pointed out:
 As I understand it, standard RGB monitor gamma (as defined by the
 hardware)
 gives a non-linear brightness response to voltage. Hence mid grey value
 127,127,127 would appear on the monitor noticeably lighter than 'mid
 grey'.

So for print work it seems Apple's choice is a good one.

For multimedia work, though, the difference leaves us having to choose
between making things pretty for the Mac audience or the Windows audience,
but I don't know of a way to get optimal results for both. :(

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Re: Imported Images Are Darker

2002-12-07 Thread Ted
Bill Lynn wrote in part:


I am converting a number of my older projects from Director to Rev. To
prepare the art, I copy it from the Director cast and paste it into Graphic
Convertor where I can do the necessary scaling, trimming and conversion to
..png format. When I import these images into Rev as controls, however, I
notice that they are noticeably darker than the original art.



Bill, have you tried setting the gamma correction value of your PNG images in
Graphic Converter?

The standard setting for Mac OS 9 is 1.8, and for Windows it's 2.2. Many
graphic artists set their images to 2.0--right between the two standard
settings.

An advantage to using gamma correction is that, once it's set to your liking,
your images should display almost identically across platforms.

Ted






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Imported Images Are Darker

2002-12-06 Thread Bill Lynn
I am converting a number of my older projects from Director to Rev. To
prepare the art, I copy it from the Director cast and paste it into Graphic
Convertor where I can do the necessary scaling, trimming and conversion to
.png format. When I import these images into Rev as controls, however, I
notice that they are noticeably darker than the original art. Has anyone
experienced this? Could it be related to the difference in bit depths
between the images and my stack?

Cheers... Bill Lynn
Simtech Publications
www.hsj.com

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