Re: Installers for Mac / Linux?
Derek Bump wrote: My suggestion would be to follow what is traditional for the platform. A setup from for Windows. A DMG for MacOS X. Amen, brother. I love DMGs for many reasons, not the least of which is that it liberates us from the strange pricing practices of so many installer vendors: There are a couple that have a one-time fee for their Windows version, but require annual per-product fees for their Mac version. Since these companies started out on the Mac I'm surprised they've chosen to add to the "Mac tax", but homey don't that game anymore -- it's DMGs all the way for me, and adios to anti-Mac pricing. With one vendor, moving to DMGs has also helped me stop rewarding dumb behavior: they allow you to purchase a new license quickly and conveniently online, but renewals require downloading a PDF, printing it, faxing the physical document back to them, and waiting until the next morning when their staff arrives to process their fax orders. When I wrote to ask if renewals could be made as simple as new purchases, their answer amounted to "Because that's how we do things." So this is how I do things: I make DMGs, and they're not my vendor anymore. :) -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Installers for Mac / Linux?
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 12:07 pm, Derek Bump wrote: > My suggestion would be to follow what is traditional for the platform. > A setup from for Windows. A DMG for MacOS X. And a gzip file (or > whatever is used) for Unix. Linux packages are often installed using the RPM system (originally RedHat Package Manager). Free, well documented and supported on most distributions. Have a look here as a start: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/RPM-HOWTO.html HTH -- Rishi Viner PUREDATA Australia www.puredata.com.au ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Installers for Mac / Linux?
Scott Kane wrote: Yeah - I agree. But I wasn't the one asking about installers. I was answering. Yeah, my email is still a little funky so I don't know who asked the original question. But that's ok though. Our answers will be plastered on the list web site for years to come. We've made our marks in history. :) Derek Bump Dreamscape Software ___ Compress Images Easily with JPEGCompress http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Installers for Mac / Linux?
> But that's ok though. Our answers will be plastered on the list web > site for years to come. We've made our marks in history. :) LOL! Must admit that's a new thought to me. Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Installers for Mac / Linux?
> This is true. I think 1 question has to be answered though. > Does your > program on the Mac and Unix side require itself to be installed? Hi Derek, Yeah - I agree. But I wasn't the one asking about installers. I was answering. Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Installers for Mac / Linux?
Scott Kane wrote: Yes. I've used Jordans' installer on Win since version one beta. It's excellent and the ISTool that goes with it is superb. But it won't help on the Mac and *nix side of things... :-) This is true. I think 1 question has to be answered though. Does your program on the Mac and Unix side require itself to be installed? Let me use an example. I had to create an installer for JPEGCompress so it can create the necessary icons in the Quick Launch bar, the Desktop, and the Program Groups. Also, on Windows it is common that an Uninstaller be included. However, on the Mac side, it's really not that necessary because traditionally Mac programs were contained within 1 folder. To remove the program you simply drag the folder to the trash, empty it, then it's gone. So if you are looking for something to create a single, multi-platform installer, then you are probably out of luck. My suggestion would be to follow what is traditional for the platform. A setup from for Windows. A DMG for MacOS X. And a gzip file (or whatever is used) for Unix. Or, if your program is being distributed on CD, create your own installer! Derek Bump Dreamscape Software ___ Compress Images Easily with JPEGCompress http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Installers for Mac / Linux?
> Or if you're in the market for a free installer that produces the the > same exact installers that many companies already use, you > can check out > InnoSetup. It's free, customizable, codable, and works for > all flavors > of Windows. > > http://www.jrsoftware.org/isinfo.php Yes. I've used Jordans' installer on Win since version one beta. It's excellent and the ISTool that goes with it is superb. But it won't help on the Mac and *nix side of things... :-) Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Installers for Mac / Linux?
Scott Kane wrote: However - if you are in the market for a cheap Rev project installer then see: http://downloads.runrev.com/stacks_apps/installgadget.php Or if you're in the market for a free installer that produces the the same exact installers that many companies already use, you can check out InnoSetup. It's free, customizable, codable, and works for all flavors of Windows. http://www.jrsoftware.org/isinfo.php Derek Bump Dreamscape Software ___ Compress Images Easily with JPEGCompress http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Installers for Mac / Linux?
> I am preparing to release a stand alone application and am > working on doing Mac and Linux distributions along with > Windows. As far as an installer for these, I am planning on > using the Nullsoft install system for Windows because I am > already familiar with it and it has worked great in the past. > My question is what should I use to package the Mac and > Linux? Is there any Windows software that could be used to > make installers for Mac or Linux? I currently do not have a > Mac or Linux machine to use for this, so it will be difficult > if the installer needs to be built on the platform it will be > used to install on. Any tips? For the Mac I use FreeDMG - you can get it from www.versiontracker.com It packages the distribution, but does not install it. Some Mac users dislike installers because they prefer to control where things are put themselves and sometimes feel the installer might be doing stuff they don't want it to do. However - if you are in the market for a cheap Rev project installer then see: http://downloads.runrev.com/stacks_apps/installgadget.php As for Linux - it's a nighmare. I'd stick to Gzip or similar. Scott Kane ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Installers for Mac / Linux?
Hi all, I am preparing to release a stand alone application and am working on doing Mac and Linux distributions along with Windows. As far as an installer for these, I am planning on using the Nullsoft install system for Windows because I am already familiar with it and it has worked great in the past. My question is what should I use to package the Mac and Linux? Is there any Windows software that could be used to make installers for Mac or Linux? I currently do not have a Mac or Linux machine to use for this, so it will be difficult if the installer needs to be built on the platform it will be used to install on. Any tips? -Levi ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
