Re: Itemization of detailed files changed in v 2.8?
Mark, Beautifully stated. May I quote you elsewhere? Joe Wilkins On Feb 27, 2007, at 3:18 AM, Mark Powell wrote: How to use Revolution Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Actually, it was easy to run the older version, once I found it! (smile) That did improve the situation, Trevor DeVore wrote: the bug appeared in 2.7.5 betas (which became 2.8). "detailed files" works fine in 2.7.4 which was the last released version of 2.7.x. I believe it is too generous to say that it improves the situation *not* to upgrade. "Forego a new version, because you can't trust it" is not a solution, it is a coping mechanism. (-: What is particularly frustrating about this bug is that it looks simply like bad counting on the part of the engine. The permissions component is just wrong, but the mod date is now item 6 of detailed files instead of item 5. Grrr. I make lots of mistakes and the ones that grind on me the most are ones like this that are due to my own sloppy housekeeping. So my advice to the Rev team: shoot for the stars in improvements, yes, but make sure the on-board toilet keep working while you are on the journey. Thanks to all for responding. This list is cheaper than counseling, and much more effective. --Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Itemization of detailed files changed in v 2.8?
How to use Revolution > Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: > Actually, it was easy to run the older version, once > I found it! (smile) That did improve the situation, > Trevor DeVore wrote: > the bug appeared in 2.7.5 betas (which became 2.8). > "detailed files" works fine in 2.7.4 which was the > last released version of 2.7.x. I believe it is too generous to say that it improves the situation *not* to upgrade. "Forego a new version, because you can't trust it" is not a solution, it is a coping mechanism. (-: What is particularly frustrating about this bug is that it looks simply like bad counting on the part of the engine. The permissions component is just wrong, but the mod date is now item 6 of detailed files instead of item 5. Grrr. I make lots of mistakes and the ones that grind on me the most are ones like this that are due to my own sloppy housekeeping. So my advice to the Rev team: shoot for the stars in improvements, yes, but make sure the on-board toilet keep working while you are on the journey. Thanks to all for responding. This list is cheaper than counseling, and much more effective. --Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Itemization of detailed files changed in v 2.8?
Jim, Actually, it was easy to run the older version, once I found it! (smile) That did improve the situation, I think, and as you may have read earlier. Tomorrow's column will end up with a no go for window's version, but the next week should turn that around and I will do as you say, and stress the worth and value of the RevList in assisting with testing at all levels. Thanks, Joe Wilkins On Feb 26, 2007, at 8:28 PM, Jim Ault wrote: On 2/26/07 4:39 PM, "Joe Lewis Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does this mean, based on past history, that when we have an upgrade we should keep our copy of the old one we've been using around for a while? I thought Revolution was mature enough that we can count on upgrades to be "good". Apparently, not! Since I got a good window's standalone using 2.7.4, but didn't using 2.8 gm3, should I go back and do it again using 2.7.4? Since I may not have kept that version around, how can I get a copy to try that out? Joe, You need to realize that the last several months have been a very strong push to release beta updates for testing. The Rev community has taken on the challenge of reporting and sharing to expedite the bug-fix marathon. I am not in a position to do any betas for the moment, so I am staying with 2.7.2 and completing some projects. Yes, you can run multiple versions of Rev since the folder structure and preferences allow that. I am not sure how it works exactly since I only use one version . Someone will be able to direct you to the link page that has the older versions. You might let your column make a comment about how the user community is actively testing and are part of the beta process.. very positive stuff. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Itemization of detailed files changed in v 2.8?
On 2/26/07 4:39 PM, "Joe Lewis Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does this mean, based on past history, that when we have an upgrade > we should keep our copy of the old one we've been using around for a > while? I thought Revolution was mature enough that we can count on > upgrades to be "good". Apparently, not! Since I got a good window's > standalone using 2.7.4, but didn't using 2.8 gm3, should I go back > and do it again using 2.7.4? Since I may not have kept that version > around, how can I get a copy to try that out? Joe, You need to realize that the last several months have been a very strong push to release beta updates for testing. The Rev community has taken on the challenge of reporting and sharing to expedite the bug-fix marathon. I am not in a position to do any betas for the moment, so I am staying with 2.7.2 and completing some projects. Yes, you can run multiple versions of Rev since the folder structure and preferences allow that. I am not sure how it works exactly since I only use one version . Someone will be able to direct you to the link page that has the older versions. You might let your column make a comment about how the user community is actively testing and are part of the beta process.. very positive stuff. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Itemization of detailed files changed in v 2.8?
On Feb 26, 2007, at 4:06 PM, Mark Powell wrote: Never cease to be amazed how something functioning in an earlier version can break so freely in upgrades. Who is minding the store, anyhow? And if it was broken between 2.7.2 and 2.7.5 (as reported by Trevor), any excuse why it wasn't remedied in 2.8?Aargh. Mark, Just to clarify - the bug appeared in 2.7.5 betas (which became 2.8). "detailed files" works fine in 2.7.4 which was the last released version of 2.7.x. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Itemization of detailed files changed in v 2.8?
Does this mean, based on past history, that when we have an upgrade we should keep our copy of the old one we've been using around for a while? I thought Revolution was mature enough that we can count on upgrades to be "good". Apparently, not! Since I got a good window's standalone using 2.7.4, but didn't using 2.8 gm3, should I go back and do it again using 2.7.4? Since I may not have kept that version around, how can I get a copy to try that out? Joe Wilkins On Feb 26, 2007, at 4:06 PM, Mark Powell wrote: Never cease to be amazed how something functioning in an earlier version can break so freely in upgrades. Who is minding the store, anyhow? And if it was broken between 2.7.2 and 2.7.5 (as reported by Trevor), any excuse why it wasn't remedied in 2.8?Aargh. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Trevor DeVore Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 12:52 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Itemization of detailed files changed in v 2.8? On Feb 26, 2007, at 11:22 AM, Mark Powell wrote: In 2.8, I am getting modification dates of 1969 due to the zero in item 5. Is anyone else seeing this, or am I just hallucinating (again)? http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=4474 -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Itemization of detailed files changed in v 2.8?
Never cease to be amazed how something functioning in an earlier version can break so freely in upgrades. Who is minding the store, anyhow? And if it was broken between 2.7.2 and 2.7.5 (as reported by Trevor), any excuse why it wasn't remedied in 2.8?Aargh. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Trevor DeVore Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 12:52 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Itemization of detailed files changed in v 2.8? On Feb 26, 2007, at 11:22 AM, Mark Powell wrote: > In 2.8, I am getting modification dates of 1969 due to the zero in > item 5. Is anyone else seeing this, or am I just hallucinating > (again)? http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=4474 -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Itemization of detailed files changed in v 2.8?
On Feb 26, 2007, at 11:22 AM, Mark Powell wrote: In 2.8, I am getting modification dates of 1969 due to the zero in item 5. Is anyone else seeing this, or am I just hallucinating (again)? http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=4474 -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Itemization of detailed files changed in v 2.8?
Can someone give me a reality check. The following is a straight message box call of put the detailed files When I do it under 2.7.2, I get. About+the+Earth.txt,46,,1160311160,1160308669,1172320050,0,0,0,666, AboutFiles.txt,3088,,1160669830,1164203803,1172320050,0,0,0,666, encap_sol_system.gif,2770,,1160311160,1078329184,1172517002,0,0,0,666, Process+Meeting.msg,620544,,1160311160,1160308722,1172320051,0,0,0,666, When I do it under 2.8, I get. About+the+Earth.txt,46,,1160311160,0,1160308669,0,0,0,000, AboutFiles.txt,3088,,1160669830,0,1164203803,0,0,0,000, encap_sol_system.gif,2770,,1160311160,0,1078329184,0,0,0,000, Process+Meeting.msg,620544,,1160311160,0,1160308722,0,0,0,000, In 2.8, I am getting modification dates of 1969 due to the zero in item 5. Is anyone else seeing this, or am I just hallucinating (again)? Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
