Japanese on Revolution
Greetings Is anyone using Japanese text in a Revolution application? I am aware of the limitations with 16bit fonts but perhaps there is someone using a workaround that may be suitable. Thanks Ron ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Japanese on Revolution
Recently, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Is anyone using Japanese text in a Revolution application? I am aware of the > limitations with 16bit fonts but perhaps there is someone using a workaround > that may be suitable. What workaround are you looking for? If you're talking about *display* of fonts, REV should work just fine as long as the appropriate fonts and support are available on the user's system. MacOS requires the Japanese language kit, while Windows needs either system level support or a third party enhancement such as those available from TwinBridge systems (http://www.twinbridge.com/). I've built a MetaCard application that displays text in 5 languages, with two of them being double byte Chinese. The only limitation I found was that text needs to be broken manually -- MC wraps lines based on spaces between words. Maybe MC/REV will come up with a fix to wrap by character at some point. Regards, Scott _ Scott Rossi Tactile Media - Multimedia & Design Creative Director Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Japanese on Revolution
At 10:48 am -0800 7/12/01, Scott Rossi wrote: >Recently, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Is anyone using Japanese text in a Revolution application? I am aware of the >> limitations with 16bit fonts but perhaps there is someone using a workaround >> that may be suitable. > >What workaround are you looking for? > >If you're talking about *display* of fonts, REV should work just fine as >long as the appropriate fonts and support are available on the user's >system. MacOS requires the Japanese language kit, while Windows needs >either system level support or a third party enhancement such as those >available from TwinBridge systems (http://www.twinbridge.com/). > >I've built a MetaCard application that displays text in 5 languages, with >two of them being double byte Chinese. The only limitation I found was that >text needs to be broken manually -- MC wraps lines based on spaces between >words. Maybe MC/REV will come up with a fix to wrap by character at some >point. In addition to the wrapping issue, you'll have to watch for the mac/iso conversions that Rev automatically does in fields when changing between Mac and Windows. Japanese text that is Shift-JIS coded, for example, is the same on Mac and Windows. But Rev will try to convert when you switch platforms. One way round this is to keep the text in a custom property and load it into a field when needed, on openCard for example. Cheers Dave Cragg ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Japanese on Revolution
Recently, Dave Cragg wrote: > In addition to the wrapping issue, you'll have to watch for the > mac/iso conversions that Rev automatically does in fields when > changing between Mac and Windows. Japanese text that is Shift-JIS > coded, for example, is the same on Mac and Windows. But Rev will try > to convert when you switch platforms. One way round this is to keep > the text in a custom property and load it into a field when needed, > on openCard for example. Another option is to store the text as external files in their own folder and read them in at runtime or when needed (what I did in my project). This way writers/editors can easily make corrections to simple text files and you just need to dump the new files into the main folder when you make updates. Regards, Scott _ Scott Rossi Tactile Media - Multimedia & Design Creative Director Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Japanese on Revolution
Thanks Scott for the advice. I don't think spaces will be a problem since Japanese does not have any, at least not single byte ones. I've been a HC/SC user for years and watching MC from v1 hoping it will someday add 2byte font support viz. not just correct display but also allow input. My app is in both English and Japanese - menus, dialogs, texts etc. So, at minimum, I need to be able to select 2byte text. Ultimately, I need to input 2byte text as well. By 'Workaround' I meant some way to select or input text without producing 'mojibake'. > From: Scott Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 10:48:35 -0800 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Japanese on Revolution > > Recently, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Is anyone using Japanese text in a Revolution application? I am aware of the >> limitations with 16bit fonts but perhaps there is someone using a workaround >> that may be suitable. > > What workaround are you looking for? > > If you're talking about *display* of fonts, REV should work just fine as > long as the appropriate fonts and support are available on the user's > system. MacOS requires the Japanese language kit, while Windows needs > either system level support or a third party enhancement such as those > available from TwinBridge systems (http://www.twinbridge.com/). > > I've built a MetaCard application that displays text in 5 languages, with > two of them being double byte Chinese. The only limitation I found was that > text needs to be broken manually -- MC wraps lines based on spaces between > words. Maybe MC/REV will come up with a fix to wrap by character at some > point. > > Regards, > > Scott > > _ > Scott Rossi Tactile Media - Multimedia & Design > Creative Director Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Web: http://www.tactilemedia.com > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Japanese on Revolution
Hi Dave > > In addition to the wrapping issue, you'll have to watch for the > mac/iso conversions that Rev automatically does in fields when > changing between Mac and Windows. Japanese text that is Shift-JIS > coded, for example, is the same on Mac and Windows. But Rev will try > to convert when you switch platforms. One way round this is to keep > the text in a custom property and load it into a field when needed, > on openCard for example. Thanks for the warning on this. My text files exist as separate files on disk that I read in. I can follow your suggestion or maybe make modifications when I read it. Does Rev try to change btn names and labels between platforms? thanks ron ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Japanese on Revolution
Recently, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thanks Scott for the advice. I don't think spaces will be a problem since > Japanese does not have any, at least not single byte ones. Actually, this is indeed a problem. If there are no spaces present in the text, the text will not wrap in the field, and you will get the appearance of having only a single incomplete text line in the field. Spaces must be present in the text in order for MC to know where to break and wrap the lines. Regards, Scott _ Scott Rossi Tactile Media - Multimedia & Design Creative Director Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Japanese on Revolution
At 6:16 PM -0800 12/7/2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Does Rev try to change btn names and labels between platforms? Yes, it converts properties (other than custom properties). -- Jeanne A. E. DeVoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
