Re: OT: SheepSaver

2010-10-26 Thread Bob Sneidar 
I just checked the TCP/IP setting and it looks like they bridge their own 
network with the native OS X network. Because of this a lot of things will not 
work, such as MacPing. This was a really cool ping scanner because you could 
ping a whole subnet of addresses, then start pulling Ethernet jumpers at the 
switches, and easily map which computer was on which port (think dumb 
switches). MacPing will not ping through the bridge. It may actually not be a 
bridge but a software router, because normally pings through a bridge would 
work fine. Oddly, it detects all the devices on the native network, but the 
pings fail after that. 

Bob


On Oct 26, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Rick Harrison wrote:

> Hi Bob,
> 
> Hmm, works under Snow Leopard.  Nice!  That's the best news I've heard in 
> quite some time!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Rick
> 
> On Oct 26, 2010, at 12:02 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
> 
>> If you mean that Sheepshaver will not run because the latest OS will not run 
>> classic, then I believe you are mistaken. In fact I know you are (if that 
>> was what you meant) because I am running it right now in Snow Leopard. 
>> Again, no native networking though. 
>> 
>> Bob

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Re: OT: SheepSaver

2010-10-26 Thread Matthias Rebbe 
Hi,

thanks for all your answers.

I installed it now here with Mac OS9, which was the only version i could find 
in my cellar.
The software TextureScape runs w/o any crashes so far. Only Rebirth RB-338 
crashes.
Now i will try install and run Pixar Typestry. If this runs also, i will be 
more than happy.

Btw. i am getting a little bit sentimental when running Mac OS 9.

Regards,

Matthias


Am 26.10.2010 um 18:00 schrieb Bob Sneidar:

> It works fine for apps internal to OS 8/9 but their networking leaves a lot 
> to be desired. Your local area network will not be visible to Sheepshaver, 
> and vis versa. 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On Oct 24, 2010, at 9:37 AM, Matthias Rebbe wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> is there anyone on the list who uses SheepSaver under Mac OS X?
>> How is the performance? How the compatbility? I have here an old program 
>> (TextureScape) which
>> I used  very long time ago on a PowerMac9500.  The PowerMac does not exists 
>> anymore, but i would
>> like to use that program. Unfortunately i am running a Mac with 10.6 and as 
>> i understand the classic envirionment
>> was supported until 10.4.
>> 
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>> 
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Re: OT: SheepSaver

2010-10-26 Thread Richmond 
I'm a stupid person because I have 4 computers wedged into 2 square 
metres of my "study"; but
what it does mean is that I don't have to run emulators left, right and 
centre.


"Mouldy, oldy" Macs are cheap as chips; even if you don't have a 
half-dozen of the things in the garage,

attic, cellar, Mum's spare bedroom.

Frankly my PPC 5700 all-in-one running OS 8.1 with an ethernet card into 
my domestic HAN (Home Area

Network) cuts a lot of mustard where Sheep Shaver just causes grief.

My only sadness . . .  :)  is that I have to wait until I drive to 
Scotland next year before I can get my
sweaty paws on 3 original slot-loading iMacs that I was donated by a 
place I used to work, to load
8, 9 and Ubuntu PPC onto. And that is not mentioning my BBC, my Acorn 
and several other

old-but-functional-and-oddly-relevant machines!!!
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Re: OT: SheepSaver

2010-10-26 Thread J. Landman Gay 

On 10/26/10 1:11 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:

Hi Ken,

There have been a few updates recently and it looks like there will be 
"regular" updates now http://qurl.tk/jh


That's even newer than the one I just posted -- thanks for the link.

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Re: OT: SheepSaver

2010-10-26 Thread J. Landman Gay 

On 10/26/10 1:04 PM, Ken Ray wrote:

I have some personal experience setting up SheepShaver and documented it
here with a set of instructions:

http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/env006.htm

Granted it was several years ago, but SheepShaver hasn't had a recent
upgrade AFAIK...


Version 2.3 (2009-10-25) was released and fixed a whole lot of crashes. 
I haven't had any trouble with this version, in fact, it seems quite 
stable. Your docs are still valid I think, as far as I know the 
installation process didn't change. There's also another setup document 
specifically for the newer version here:



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Re: OT: SheepSaver

2010-10-26 Thread Mark Schonewille 
Hi Ken,

There have been a few updates recently and it looks like there will be 
"regular" updates now http://qurl.tk/jh 

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On 26 okt 2010, at 20:04, Ken Ray wrote:

> I have some personal experience setting up SheepShaver and documented it
> here with a set of instructions:
> 
> http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/env006.htm
> 
> Granted it was several years ago, but SheepShaver hasn't had a recent
> upgrade AFAIK...
> 
> 
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> Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
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Re: OT: SheepSaver

2010-10-26 Thread Ken Ray 
I have some personal experience setting up SheepShaver and documented it
here with a set of instructions:

http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/env006.htm

Granted it was several years ago, but SheepShaver hasn't had a recent
upgrade AFAIK...


Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
Email: k...@sonsothunder.com
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/


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Re: OT: SheepSaver

2010-10-26 Thread Rick Harrison 
Hi Bob,

Hmm, works under Snow Leopard.  Nice!  That's the best news I've heard in quite 
some time!

Thanks,

Rick

On Oct 26, 2010, at 12:02 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

> If you mean that Sheepshaver will not run because the latest OS will not run 
> classic, then I believe you are mistaken. In fact I know you are (if that was 
> what you meant) because I am running it right now in Snow Leopard. Again, no 
> native networking though. 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On Oct 24, 2010, at 6:11 PM, Rick Harrison wrote:
> 
>> Hi Matthias,
>> 
>> I believe the problem is that "SheepShaver", (which I think
>> is the correct name), ran only under 9.04 which was a very
>> buggy version of OS 9 which crashed frequently.  
>> 
>> You are also correct that 10.4 was the last environment 
>> which allowed "Classic" to run, so you have a double 
>> whammy on this one.
>> 
>> Good luck!
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> On Oct 24, 2010, at 12:37 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> is there anyone on the list who uses SheepSaver under Mac OS X?
>>> How is the performance? How the compatbility? I have here an old program 
>>> (TextureScape) which
>>> I used  very long time ago on a PowerMac9500.  The PowerMac does not exists 
>>> anymore, but i would
>>> like to use that program. Unfortunately i am running a Mac with 10.6 and as 
>>> i understand the classic envirionment
>>> was supported until 10.4.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
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Re: OT: SheepSaver

2010-10-26 Thread Bob Sneidar 
BTW I am running Sheepshaver with version 8.6. I believe that was very stable. 

Bob


On Oct 24, 2010, at 6:11 PM, Rick Harrison wrote:

> Hi Matthias,
> 
> I believe the problem is that "SheepShaver", (which I think
> is the correct name), ran only under 9.04 which was a very
> buggy version of OS 9 which crashed frequently.  

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Re: OT: SheepSaver

2010-10-26 Thread Bob Sneidar 
If you mean that Sheepshaver will not run because the latest OS will not run 
classic, then I believe you are mistaken. In fact I know you are (if that was 
what you meant) because I am running it right now in Snow Leopard. Again, no 
native networking though. 

Bob


On Oct 24, 2010, at 6:11 PM, Rick Harrison wrote:

> Hi Matthias,
> 
> I believe the problem is that "SheepShaver", (which I think
> is the correct name), ran only under 9.04 which was a very
> buggy version of OS 9 which crashed frequently.  
> 
> You are also correct that 10.4 was the last environment 
> which allowed "Classic" to run, so you have a double 
> whammy on this one.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> Rick
> 
> On Oct 24, 2010, at 12:37 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> is there anyone on the list who uses SheepSaver under Mac OS X?
>> How is the performance? How the compatbility? I have here an old program 
>> (TextureScape) which
>> I used  very long time ago on a PowerMac9500.  The PowerMac does not exists 
>> anymore, but i would
>> like to use that program. Unfortunately i am running a Mac with 10.6 and as 
>> i understand the classic envirionment
>> was supported until 10.4.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
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Re: OT: SheepSaver

2010-10-26 Thread Bob Sneidar 
It works fine for apps internal to OS 8/9 but their networking leaves a lot to 
be desired. Your local area network will not be visible to Sheepshaver, and vis 
versa. 

Bob


On Oct 24, 2010, at 9:37 AM, Matthias Rebbe wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> is there anyone on the list who uses SheepSaver under Mac OS X?
> How is the performance? How the compatbility? I have here an old program 
> (TextureScape) which
> I used  very long time ago on a PowerMac9500.  The PowerMac does not exists 
> anymore, but i would
> like to use that program. Unfortunately i am running a Mac with 10.6 and as i 
> understand the classic envirionment
> was supported until 10.4.
> 
> Regards,
> 
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Re: OT: SheepSaver

2010-10-25 Thread Ben Rubinstein 
I don't use it often (I use it to occasionally take a look at an old 
program/publication, rather than for production use of legacy software) but 
when I do I'm very happy with it.


I certainly don't resent the space it takes on my disk, by contrast with 
Parallels...


Ben

On 24/10/2010 17:43, Mark Schonewille wrote:

Hi Matthias,

SheepShaver works perfectly, except for the crashes.

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On 24 okt 2010, at 18:37, Matthias Rebbe wrote:


Hi,

is there anyone on the list who uses SheepSaver under Mac OS X?
How is the performance? How the compatbility? I have here an old program 
(TextureScape) which
I used  very long time ago on a PowerMac9500.  The PowerMac does not exists 
anymore, but i would
like to use that program. Unfortunately i am running a Mac with 10.6 and as i 
understand the classic envirionment
was supported until 10.4.

Regards,

Matthia

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Re: OT: SheepSaver

2010-10-24 Thread Rick Harrison 
Hi Matthias,

I believe the problem is that "SheepShaver", (which I think
is the correct name), ran only under 9.04 which was a very
buggy version of OS 9 which crashed frequently.  

You are also correct that 10.4 was the last environment 
which allowed "Classic" to run, so you have a double 
whammy on this one.

Good luck!

Rick

On Oct 24, 2010, at 12:37 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> is there anyone on the list who uses SheepSaver under Mac OS X?
> How is the performance? How the compatbility? I have here an old program 
> (TextureScape) which
> I used  very long time ago on a PowerMac9500.  The PowerMac does not exists 
> anymore, but i would
> like to use that program. Unfortunately i am running a Mac with 10.6 and as i 
> understand the classic envirionment
> was supported until 10.4.
> 
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> 
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Re: OT: SheepSaver

2010-10-24 Thread Mark Schonewille 
Hi Matthias,

SheepShaver works perfectly, except for the crashes.

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On 24 okt 2010, at 18:37, Matthias Rebbe wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> is there anyone on the list who uses SheepSaver under Mac OS X?
> How is the performance? How the compatbility? I have here an old program 
> (TextureScape) which
> I used  very long time ago on a PowerMac9500.  The PowerMac does not exists 
> anymore, but i would
> like to use that program. Unfortunately i am running a Mac with 10.6 and as i 
> understand the classic envirionment
> was supported until 10.4.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Matthia


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OT: SheepSaver

2010-10-24 Thread Matthias Rebbe 
Hi,

is there anyone on the list who uses SheepSaver under Mac OS X?
How is the performance? How the compatbility? I have here an old program 
(TextureScape) which
I used  very long time ago on a PowerMac9500.  The PowerMac does not exists 
anymore, but i would
like to use that program. Unfortunately i am running a Mac with 10.6 and as i 
understand the classic envirionment
was supported until 10.4.

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