Off-Line revlets?

2009-11-02 Thread Richmond Mathewson 

Maybe another of my goofy questions; not sure.

Is it possible for an end-user to 'salvage' a revlet from
a browser cache and thereby continue using it, effectively
as a free-standing program, when not connected to the internet?

AND;

If this is, at least theoretically possible, is there a way to prevent it?
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Re: Off-Line revlets?

2009-11-02 Thread William de Smet 
Hi Richmond,

There was a few days ago a thread called:
RevMedia Question: Securing the revlet?
Some answers were given but I didn't test it yet myself.

greetings,

William

2009/11/2 Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com:
 Maybe another of my goofy questions; not sure.

 Is it possible for an end-user to 'salvage' a revlet from
 a browser cache and thereby continue using it, effectively
 as a free-standing program, when not connected to the internet?

 AND;

 If this is, at least theoretically possible, is there a way to prevent it?
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Re: Off-Line revlets?

2009-11-02 Thread Colin Holgate 
You can reasonably easily get the revlet file, and save the html, and  
run those locally. Renaming the revlet to be rev doesn't appear to  
give you a good stack, for what that's worth.



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Re: Off-Line revlets?

2009-11-02 Thread Richmond Mathewson 

Colin Holgate wrote:
You can reasonably easily get the revlet file, and save the html, and 
run those locally. Renaming the revlet to be rev doesn't appear to 
give you a good stack, for what that's worth.


I am aware that renaming the revlet doesn't result in a stack as the 
build process pays put to that.


However, after one h*ll of a lot of work I am about to deploy a 
web-based 'thing' which will be entirely
FREE. Now,call me naive, call me 'Richmond' [in some quarters these are 
regarded as virtual synonyms . . .   :) ],

but I hope to pick up revenue by marketing both:

1. A standalone at a modest price (say $10) that has the same 
capabilities as the web-based 'thing'.


and, at a later date,

2. A 'Premium' program (with expanded capabilities) for slightly more 
(say$100).


I hope that the web-based 'thing' will act as a 'ramp' and pursuade a 
certain number of users

to pay for either #1 or #2.

Now, obviously, if the revlett is saveable, #1 is down the kibosh.
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Re: Off-Line revlets?

2009-11-02 Thread David Coker 

Is it possible for an end-user to 'salvage' a revlet from
a browser cache and thereby continue using it, effectively
as a free-standing program, when not connected to the internet?

AND;

If this is, at least theoretically possible, is there a way to prevent it?


Hello Richmond,
Here is the solution that was given to my similar question a few days ago 
(Thanks Malte!):

this script executes a bit of javascript in the browser. The result  
will then contain the URL your revLet has been launched from and you  
can react accordingly. so you might want to do this on openstack for  
example

on openStack
local tURL
do document.location.href; in browser
put the result into tURL
if tURL  path/you/would/expect.html then
answer You are using my revlet from an unknown location. Please use  
it from my site instead
-- do a redirect here if you wish or quit
end if
end openStack

Hope that sheds some light.

All the best,

Malte


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Re-2: Off-Line revlets?

2009-11-02 Thread runrev260805 
Hi,

i already tried that solution. It works without problems under Firefox here 
under Windows. But under IE8 i get no value back for document.location.href;. 
Maybe due to security settings. I do not know.

But that means, that IE users cannot run the revlet, although it is started 
from the right website.

Regards,

Matthias

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Off-Line revlets? (02-Nov-2009 20:43)
From:David Coker davidoco...@gmail.com
To:  runrev260...@m-r-d.de

 
 Is it possible for an end-user to 'salvage' a revlet from
 a browser cache and thereby continue using it, effectively
 as a free-standing program, when not connected to the internet?
 
 AND;
 
 If this is, at least theoretically possible, is there a way to prevent it?
 
 
 Hello Richmond,
 Here is the solution that was given to my similar question a few days ago (
 Thanks Malte!):
 
 this script executes a bit of javascript in the browser. The result  
 will then contain the URL your revLet has been launched from and you  
 can react accordingly. so you might want to do this on openstack for  
 example
 
 on openStack
 local tURL
 do document.location.href; in browser
 put the result into tURL
 if tURL  path/you/would/expect.html then
 answer You are using my revlet from an unknown location. Please use  
 it from my site instead
 -- do a redirect here if you wish or quit
 end if
 end openStack
 
 Hope that sheds some light.
 
 All the best,
 
 Malte
 
 
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Re: Re-2: Off-Line revlets?

2009-11-02 Thread Brian Yennie 

Try:

window.location.href

I believe this should work for all browsers.


Hi,

i already tried that solution. It works without problems under  
Firefox here under Windows. But under IE8 i get no value back for  
document.location.href;. Maybe due to security settings. I do not  
know.


But that means, that IE users cannot run the revlet, although it is  
started from the right website.


Regards,

Matthias

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Off-Line revlets? (02-Nov-2009 20:43)
From:David Coker davidoco...@gmail.com
To:  runrev260...@m-r-d.de




Is it possible for an end-user to 'salvage' a revlet from
a browser cache and thereby continue using it, effectively
as a free-standing program, when not connected to the internet?



AND;


If this is, at least theoretically possible, is there a way to  
prevent it?



Hello Richmond,
Here is the solution that was given to my similar question a few  
days ago (

Thanks Malte!):


this script executes a bit of javascript in the browser. The result
will then contain the URL your revLet has been launched from and you
can react accordingly. so you might want to do this on openstack for
example


on openStack
local tURL
do document.location.href; in browser
put the result into tURL
if tURL  path/you/would/expect.html then
answer You are using my revlet from an unknown location. Please use
it from my site instead
-- do a redirect here if you wish or quit
end if
end openStack


Hope that sheds some light.



All the best,



Malte

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Re-4: Off-Line revlets?

2009-11-02 Thread runrev260805 
Hi,

tried window.location.hrev also. In IE8 i get no value back.

I tried the follwoing  html file with javascript inside.
-
htmlheadtitleTest/title
script type=text/javascript

  alert(window.location.href);
  alert(document.location.href);
/script
/headbody
/body/html
-
Running this html file in IE8 opens both alert windows showing h the correct 
value.


Only from within the revelt it seems that it does not work in IE8.

I used the following code to test it in my revlet

on openStack
local tURL
do window.location.href; in browser
-- do document.location.href; in browser
put the result into tURL
answer tURL
end openStack

In IE8 i get an empty answer dialog. In Firefox i get the value displayed

Is this a bug. Should i report this?

Matthias
 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Re-2: Off-Line revlets? (02-Nov-2009 21:13)
From:Brian Yennie bri...@qldlearning.com
To:  runrev260...@m-r-d.de

 Try:
 
 window.location.href
 
 I believe this should work for all browsers.
 
  Hi,
 
  i already tried that solution. It works without problems under  
  Firefox here under Windows. But under IE8 i get no value back for  
  document.location.href;. Maybe due to security settings. I do not  
  know.
 
  But that means, that IE users cannot run the revlet, although it is  
  started from the right website.
 
  Regards,
 
  Matthias
 
   Original Message 
  Subject: Re: Off-Line revlets? (02-Nov-2009 20:43)
  From:David Coker davidoco...@gmail.com
  To:  runrev260...@m-r-d.de
 
 
  Is it possible for an end-user to 'salvage' a revlet from
  a browser cache and thereby continue using it, effectively
  as a free-standing program, when not connected to the internet?
 
  AND;
 
  If this is, at least theoretically possible, is there a way to  
  prevent it?
 
 
  Hello Richmond,
  Here is the solution that was given to my similar question a few  
  days ago (
  Thanks Malte!):
 
  this script executes a bit of javascript in the browser. The result
  will then contain the URL your revLet has been launched from and you
  can react accordingly. so you might want to do this on openstack for
  example
 
  on openStack
  local tURL
  do document.location.href; in browser
  put the result into tURL
  if tURL  path/you/would/expect.html then
  answer You are using my revlet from an unknown location. Please use
  it from my site instead
  -- do a redirect here if you wish or quit
  end if
  end openStack
 
  Hope that sheds some light.
 
  All the best,
 
  Malte
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Re-5: Off-Line revlets?

2009-11-02 Thread runrev260805 
Of course i tried window.location.href ...

Sorry for the typo.

 Original Message 
Subject: Re-4: Off-Line revlets? (02-Nov-2009 23:20)
From:runrev260...@m-r-d.de
To:  use-revolution@lists.runrev.com

 Hi,
 
 tried window.location.hrev also. In IE8 i get no value back.
 
 I tried the follwoing  html file with javascript inside.
 -
 htmlheadtitleTest/title
 script type=text/javascript
 
   alert(window.location.href);
   alert(document.location.href);
 /script
 /headbody
 /body/html
 -
 Running this html file in IE8 opens both alert windows showing h the 
 correct value.
 
 
 Only from within the revelt it seems that it does not work in IE8.
 
 I used the following code to test it in my revlet
 
 on openStack
 local tURL
 do window.location.href; in browser
 -- do document.location.href; in browser
 put the result into tURL
 answer tURL
 end openStack
 
 In IE8 i get an empty answer dialog. In Firefox i get the value displayed
 
 Is this a bug. Should i report this?
 
 Matthias
  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: Re-2: Off-Line revlets? (02-Nov-2009 21:13)
 From:Brian Yennie bri...@qldlearning.com
 To:  runrev260...@m-r-d.de
 
  Try:
  
  window.location.href
  
  I believe this should work for all browsers.
  
   Hi,
  
   i already tried that solution. It works without problems under  
   Firefox here under Windows. But under IE8 i get no value back for  
   document.location.href;. Maybe due to security settings. I do not  
   know.
  
   But that means, that IE users cannot run the revlet, although it is  
   started from the right website.
  
   Regards,
  
   Matthias
  
    Original Message 
   Subject: Re: Off-Line revlets? (02-Nov-2009 20:43)
   From:David Coker davidoco...@gmail.com
   To:  runrev260...@m-r-d.de
  
  
   Is it possible for an end-user to 'salvage' a revlet from
   a browser cache and thereby continue using it, effectively
   as a free-standing program, when not connected to the internet?
  
   AND;
  
   If this is, at least theoretically possible, is there a way to  
   prevent it?
  
  
   Hello Richmond,
   Here is the solution that was given to my similar question a few  
   days ago (
   Thanks Malte!):
  
   this script executes a bit of javascript in the browser. The result
   will then contain the URL your revLet has been launched from and you
   can react accordingly. so you might want to do this on openstack for
   example
  
   on openStack
   local tURL
   do document.location.href; in browser
   put the result into tURL
   if tURL  path/you/would/expect.html then
   answer You are using my revlet from an unknown location. Please use
   it from my site instead
   -- do a redirect here if you wish or quit
   end if
   end openStack
  
   Hope that sheds some light.
  
   All the best,
  
   Malte
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