Re: On-Rev File Browser Upload Dialog
On Oct 20, 2010, at 9:51 PM, Rick Harrison wrote: Andre, I'm just a little surprised that with as powerful as Rev is, we are still forced to use the older solutions. Thanks for the clarification anyway. Rick I am not sure what you mean by 'older solutions'. RevServer is bound by the features and functions of browsers and the standards that they follow. The newest standards are HTML5, CSS3, etc. This is how browsers operate. Microsoft has done the experiment of deviating from such standards, teaching us that this is not a good long term strategy. On the desktop app/exe side, programmers are free to create their own protocols, interfaces, and functions. In that case, the marketplace will choose the 'winners'. Jim Ault Las Vegas On Oct 20, 2010, at 3:45 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: Rick, There is no way around this. RevServer is not like the desktop engine, there is no GUI. Actually the whole web is like this, you communicate using stateless transactions exchanging what is basically text. What you do is send a form to the browser with the correct encoding and inputs and then you decode back this form. check out a little document on the web called HTTP made really easy to understand more about the underlining protocol and then check out w3schools website on HTML, CSS and Javascript. With the clear picture in mind, check out the MVC paradigm which is the one that maps better to RevServer with HTML/CSS/JS being the View and RevServer, the controller On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Rick Harrison harri...@all-auctions.com wrote: Hi Matthias, This is an interesting solution. It uses a combination of javascript, irev, etc.. I installed the code, and it doesn't want to work just yet. It's telling me that the form isn't supported. Looks like it will only work with a multi-part form? I'll make one and try it again. Any more documentation on this solution? Anything solution using pure irev or that's a little more simple out there? Thanks, Rick ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: On-Rev File Browser Upload Dialog
Hi Jim, All I meant was that RevServer is the relatively new kid on the block, and I had hoped that it had the capability within it without relying on externals code such as java-script to get the job done in an easier way. I understand that it is bound by browser protocols, and that it needs to operate in accordance with the standards. Rick On Oct 21, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Jim Ault wrote: Rick I am not sure what you mean by 'older solutions'. RevServer is bound by the features and functions of browsers and the standards that they follow. The newest standards are HTML5, CSS3, etc. This is how browsers operate. Microsoft has done the experiment of deviating from such standards, teaching us that this is not a good long term strategy. On the desktop app/exe side, programmers are free to create their own protocols, interfaces, and functions. In that case, the marketplace will choose the 'winners'. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: On-Rev File Browser Upload Dialog
Rick Harrison wrote: All I meant was that RevServer is the relatively new kid on the block, and I had hoped that it had the capability within it without relying on externals code such as java-script to get the job done in an easier way. But in this case you're looking for oranges in an apple barrel: RevServer runs on the server. It can do a lot there, and many very interesting apps can be written natively in LiveCode without anything else at all. That is, to the extent that the server side contributes to a client-server application. That leaves the client side to be addressed, where your question was about the user interface for selecting a file. On the client we have no choice: the only scripting engine built into browsers is JavaScript. That's it. The good thing about that is you don't need to spend a lot of time deciding which language to use to make your client-side UIs, since you have no choice in the matter at all. :) I suppose you could use the RevWeb plugin, but for all but a fairly limited subset of sites in which you have an unusually committed audience, downloading any plugin is a non-starter. Earlier you found the input object to provide that for the user: input type=file class=upload name=fileX[] Use that in an HTML form and you're good to go. Here's the relevant part of the HTML source from the page I use at my site for uploading files: form enctype=multipart/form-data action=/cgi-t/mydropbox.cgi method=post Send this file: input type=file name=userfile input type=submit value=Send File input type=hidden name=email value=drop...@fourthworld.com /form Now you're left with the server side, where the uploaded data will come in as part of a multi-part form. I believe the code for parsing that from the incoming data stream so you can write it to disk has already been provided by Mattias, in RevServer-ready LiveCode: http://mail.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2010-October/147067.html So now you have both the client and the server side parts you need. Nothing left but to glue them together and enjoy. :) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: On-Rev File Browser Upload Dialog
Richard, i see in your example that you are submitting the form to mydropbox.cgi. Is this cgi made in rev? and if so, would you share it? Regards, Matthias Am 21.10.2010 um 18:07 schrieb Richard Gaskin: form enctype=multipart/form-data action=/cgi-t/mydropbox.cgi method=post Send this file: input type=file name=userfile input type=submit value=Send File input type=hidden name=email value=drop...@fourthworld.com /form ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: On-Rev File Browser Upload Dialog
Matthias Rebbe wrote: i see in your example that you are submitting the form to mydropbox.cgi. Is this cgi made in rev? and if so, would you share it? That particular CGI is written in Perl, but copied below is an early draft of one I've been working on for RevCloud. Note that it's very much an early draft and hasn't had much testing, and that it's designed only to parse the multi-part form data into a memory-based array for other functions to write out to disk if needed, so while it's held up okay when sending files of a few MBs it doesn't provide asynchronous feedback and isn't suitable for really large files like videos. I would be grateful if someone had a more robust asynchronous solution they could share. on _cgiGetInput if $REQUEST_METHOD is POST then -- POST: - put empty into tBuffer repeat until length(tBuffer) = $CONTENT_LENGTH read from stdin until empty put it after tBuffer end repeat if tBuffer is empty then put $QUERY_STRING into tBuffer -- if char 1 to 30 of $CONTENT_TYPE = multipart/form-data; boundary= then -- MULTI-PART FORM: put $CONTENT_TYPE into tMimeBoundary delete char 1 to 30 of tMimeBoundary if char 1 of tMimeBoundary = quote then delete char 1 of tMimeBoundary if last char of tMimeBoundary = quote then delete last char of tMimeBoundary -- repeat -- Get next part: put lineoffset(tMimeBoundary, tBuffer) into tStart if tStart = 0 then exit repeat delete line 1 to tStart of tBuffer put lineoffset(tMimeBoundary, tBuffer) into tEnd if tEnd = 0 then exit repeat put line 1 to (tEnd-1) of tBuffer into tPartData delete last char of tPartData -- trailing CR -- -- Parse part: put line 1 of tPartData into tInfo set the itemdel to ; put item 2 of tInfo into tName delete char 1 to 7 of tName delete last char of tName if last char of tName = quote then delete last char of tName -- put empty into tFileName if (the number of items of tInfo = 3) \ AND (char 1 to 10 of item 3 of tInfo = filename=) then -- file data: put item 3 of tInfo into tFileName delete char 1 to 11 of tFileName delete last char of tFileName if last char of tFileName = quote then delete last char of tFileName -- # put tFileName into gCGIFileNamesA[tName] end if -- get raw data: if char 1 to 13 of line 2 of tPartData = Content-Type: then delete line 1 to 3 of tPartData else delete line 1 to 2 of tPartData end if if tFileName is empty then put tPartData into gCGIDataInA[tName] else put tPartData into gCGIDataInA[file:tFileName] end if end repeat -- else -- NORMAL FORM: put tBuffer into gCGIDataInA split gCGIDataInA by and = repeat for each line tKey in the keys of gCGIDataInA put URLDecode(gCGIDataInA[tKey]) into gCGIDataInA[tKey] end repeat end if -- else -- GET: - put $QUERY_STRING into gCGIDataInA split gCGIDataInA by and = repeat for each line tKey in the keys of gCGIDataInA put urlDecode(gCGIDataInA[tKey]) into gCGIDataInA[tKey] end repeat end if end _cgiGetInput -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
On-Rev File Browser Upload Dialog
I really don't want to re-invent the wheel today. How can I get a simple file browser upload dialog to upload a file using an irev script located at On-Rev. I understand that I'll probably be using libURLftpUploadFile for this. If this were just a stack I'd be using: answer file Please choose the file to upload to generate the dialog. As I understand it, 'answer' just doesn't work for irev scripts. This seems like such a basic need, that I can't imagine that no one has done this before. If you have any example code, that would be excellent. Thanks in advance! Rick ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: On-Rev File Browser Upload Dialog
Hi Rick, there was something similiar by Magix. Please find the example at the following url. http://matthiasrebbe.eu/on-rev/upld-1.0.zip hth, Matthias Am 20.10.2010 um 17:08 schrieb Rick Harrison: I really don't want to re-invent the wheel today. How can I get a simple file browser upload dialog to upload a file using an irev script located at On-Rev. I understand that I'll probably be using libURLftpUploadFile for this. If this were just a stack I'd be using: answer file Please choose the file to upload to generate the dialog. As I understand it, 'answer' just doesn't work for irev scripts. This seems like such a basic need, that I can't imagine that no one has done this before. If you have any example code, that would be excellent. Thanks in advance! Rick ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: On-Rev File Browser Upload Dialog
Hi Matthias, This is an interesting solution. It uses a combination of javascript, irev, etc.. I installed the code, and it doesn't want to work just yet. It's telling me that the form isn't supported. Looks like it will only work with a multi-part form? I'll make one and try it again. Any more documentation on this solution? Anything solution using pure irev or that's a little more simple out there? Thanks, Rick On Oct 20, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Hi Rick, there was something similiar by Magix. Please find the example at the following url. http://matthiasrebbe.eu/on-rev/upld-1.0.zip hth, Matthias Am 20.10.2010 um 17:08 schrieb Rick Harrison: I really don't want to re-invent the wheel today. How can I get a simple file browser upload dialog to upload a file using an irev script located at On-Rev. I understand that I'll probably be using libURLftpUploadFile for this. If this were just a stack I'd be using: answer file Please choose the file to upload to generate the dialog. As I understand it, 'answer' just doesn't work for irev scripts. This seems like such a basic need, that I can't imagine that no one has done this before. If you have any example code, that would be excellent. Thanks in advance! Rick ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: On-Rev File Browser Upload Dialog
Rick, There is no way around this. RevServer is not like the desktop engine, there is no GUI. Actually the whole web is like this, you communicate using stateless transactions exchanging what is basically text. What you do is send a form to the browser with the correct encoding and inputs and then you decode back this form. check out a little document on the web called HTTP made really easy to understand more about the underlining protocol and then check out w3schools website on HTML, CSS and Javascript. With the clear picture in mind, check out the MVC paradigm which is the one that maps better to RevServer with HTML/CSS/JS being the View and RevServer, the controller On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Rick Harrison harri...@all-auctions.comwrote: Hi Matthias, This is an interesting solution. It uses a combination of javascript, irev, etc.. I installed the code, and it doesn't want to work just yet. It's telling me that the form isn't supported. Looks like it will only work with a multi-part form? I'll make one and try it again. Any more documentation on this solution? Anything solution using pure irev or that's a little more simple out there? Thanks, Rick On Oct 20, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Hi Rick, there was something similiar by Magix. Please find the example at the following url. http://matthiasrebbe.eu/on-rev/upld-1.0.zip hth, Matthias Am 20.10.2010 um 17:08 schrieb Rick Harrison: I really don't want to re-invent the wheel today. How can I get a simple file browser upload dialog to upload a file using an irev script located at On-Rev. I understand that I'll probably be using libURLftpUploadFile for this. If this were just a stack I'd be using: answer file Please choose the file to upload to generate the dialog. As I understand it, 'answer' just doesn't work for irev scripts. This seems like such a basic need, that I can't imagine that no one has done this before. If you have any example code, that would be excellent. Thanks in advance! Rick ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: On-Rev File Browser Upload Dialog
HELP Mr. Wizard HELP!!! I don't wanna be a web developer anymore!!! Bob On Oct 20, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: Rick, There is no way around this. RevServer is not like the desktop engine, there is no GUI. Actually the whole web is like this, you communicate using stateless transactions exchanging what is basically text. What you do is send a form to the browser with the correct encoding and inputs and then you decode back this form. check out a little document on the web called HTTP made really easy to understand more about the underlining protocol and then check out w3schools website on HTML, CSS and Javascript. With the clear picture in mind, check out the MVC paradigm which is the one that maps better to RevServer with HTML/CSS/JS being the View and RevServer, the controller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: On-Rev File Browser Upload Dialog
Andre, I'm just a little surprised that with as powerful as Rev is, we are still forced to use the older solutions. Thanks for the clarification anyway. Rick On Oct 20, 2010, at 3:45 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: Rick, There is no way around this. RevServer is not like the desktop engine, there is no GUI. Actually the whole web is like this, you communicate using stateless transactions exchanging what is basically text. What you do is send a form to the browser with the correct encoding and inputs and then you decode back this form. check out a little document on the web called HTTP made really easy to understand more about the underlining protocol and then check out w3schools website on HTML, CSS and Javascript. With the clear picture in mind, check out the MVC paradigm which is the one that maps better to RevServer with HTML/CSS/JS being the View and RevServer, the controller On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Rick Harrison harri...@all-auctions.comwrote: Hi Matthias, This is an interesting solution. It uses a combination of javascript, irev, etc.. I installed the code, and it doesn't want to work just yet. It's telling me that the form isn't supported. Looks like it will only work with a multi-part form? I'll make one and try it again. Any more documentation on this solution? Anything solution using pure irev or that's a little more simple out there? Thanks, Rick On Oct 20, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Hi Rick, there was something similiar by Magix. Please find the example at the following url. http://matthiasrebbe.eu/on-rev/upld-1.0.zip hth, Matthias Am 20.10.2010 um 17:08 schrieb Rick Harrison: I really don't want to re-invent the wheel today. How can I get a simple file browser upload dialog to upload a file using an irev script located at On-Rev. I understand that I'll probably be using libURLftpUploadFile for this. If this were just a stack I'd be using: answer file Please choose the file to upload to generate the dialog. As I understand it, 'answer' just doesn't work for irev scripts. This seems like such a basic need, that I can't imagine that no one has done this before. If you have any example code, that would be excellent. Thanks in advance! Rick ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution __ Rick Harrison You can buy my $10 music album Funny Time Machine digital CD on the iTunes Store Now! To visit the iTunes Store now to listen to samples of my CD please click on the following link. (Please note you must have iTunes installed on your computer for this link to work.) http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=213668290 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
