Re: Painting on an image in a group?

2008-10-01 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
Looking through my mails after just having returned from a few days 
time-out for recreation I notice this Painting on an image in a 
group?-discussion:



On Mon Sep 29, 2008, Scott Rossi scott at tactilemedia.com wrote:


Recently, David Bovill wrote:

 I am really looking for a solution for painting an
 image that is within a group.

There doesn't appear to be a direct solution to this problem, so I made a
small exercise out of it and came up with a workaround called Proxy Paint.
Execute the following in your Rev message box:

  go url http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/proxypaint.rev;

This solution uses a separate image object outside the group to capture
paint data, and then transfer it to the grouped image.  Maybe 
something like

this can help.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia  Design



Some time ago we had a discussion on the Metacard list concerning 
related problems of painting and drawing on images inside a group. The 
solution found was to temporarily move the image outside the group, 
apply the changes to the image, and then move the image back into the 
group. The following script  demonstrates the implementation of this 
principle (button distortions: choose shape contains the script that 
applies changes to the image):



on mouseUp
 set the imagedata of img x to the imagedata of img x
 set the relayergroupedcontrols to true
 put the layer of img x into tlayer
 set the layer of img x to top
 send mouseup to btn distortions: choose shape
 set the layer of img x to tlayer
 set the relayergroupedcontrols to false
end mouseUp

So an alternative approach to Scott's proposal of creating and using a 
second image would be just to move the image outside the group 
temporarily and then put it back into the group after applying the changes.


Regards,

Wilhelm Sanke
http://www.sanke.org/MetaMedia

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Re: Painting on an image in a group?

2008-09-30 Thread David Bovill
Thanks Scott, Joe - I'll go with Scotts solution. Scott a couple of
questions - you use the text of image for the contents - just wandering
why you like that syntax (it was new to me) - oh and where's the script to
select the paint tools :)
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Re: Painting on an image in a group?

2008-09-30 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, David Bovill wrote:

 a couple of
 questions - you use the text of image for the contents - just wandering
 why you like that syntax (it was new to me)

I do, in fact, like the syntax -- it transfers both the image and alphaData
to the grouped image in one action.


 oh and where's the script to select the paint tools

See the card script.  You won't need this but I used a mouseMove handler to
automatically show/hide the proxy image and switch the tools.  When you are
painting in the demo stack, you are painting in the proxy image; when the
mouse moves outside the image rect, the proxy image is hidden and its data
is transferred to the grouped image.

BTW, an opaque object is required here to define the limits of the active
paint region, which is why a graphic with noop ink is positioned behind the
group.  Mouse tracking will not work on a transparent object (ie. an image
with no paint in it).

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia  Design


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Re: Painting on an image in a group?

2008-09-29 Thread David Bovill
Hi Joe - thanks, but I am really looking for a solution for painting an
image that is within a group. If I have to work around it by using card
images then OK - but I'm just rying to confirm that it is not possible to
paint within a grouped image.

2008/9/28 Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 David, I assume you're using the paint bucket tool for the user to paint
 with?

 I'm not quite sure why you are grouping this one image with the button. Why
 not just have each new card created with its own image. Group the button
 so it appears on all of the cards; and, perhaps, you may wish to hide it if
 or
 when you want to print the painted image. Also, what are the types of
 images
 you are using? Just drawn in the IDE or imported as a control image from
 files
 that have been scanned or maybe photos? I've been having success with
 user painting under almost all of these circumstances.

 Joe Wilkins

 On Sep 28, 2008, at 3:18 AM, David Bovill wrote:

  It's a group with one image and a button in it. AFAIK - there is no way to
 do this, except be cloing the image as a card level object and painting in
 that - transfering the image contents to the groups image later?

 2008/9/24 Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Hi David,

 Is it a group of images or a group of mixed objects?

 Joe Wilkins


 On Sep 23, 2008, at 4:45 PM, David Bovill wrote:

 In the IDE if you select an image in a group and try to paint - it
 creates

 a
 new image. Is there any way to to set things up / script it so that a
 user
 can paint in an image inside a group?

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Re: Painting on an image in a group?

2008-09-29 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins

Good luck, David. Hope you find a solution.

Joe

On Sep 29, 2008, at 1:13 PM, David Bovill wrote:

Hi Joe - thanks, but I am really looking for a solution for painting  
an
image that is within a group. If I have to work around it by using  
card
images then OK - but I'm just rying to confirm that it is not  
possible to

paint within a grouped image.

2008/9/28 Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]

David, I assume you're using the paint bucket tool for the user to  
paint

with?

I'm not quite sure why you are grouping this one image with the  
button. Why
not just have each new card created with its own image. Group the  
button
so it appears on all of the cards; and, perhaps, you may wish to  
hide it if

or
when you want to print the painted image. Also, what are the types of
images
you are using? Just drawn in the IDE or imported as a control image  
from

files
that have been scanned or maybe photos? I've been having success with
user painting under almost all of these circumstances.

Joe Wilkins

On Sep 28, 2008, at 3:18 AM, David Bovill wrote:

It's a group with one image and a button in it. AFAIK - there is no  
way to
do this, except be cloing the image as a card level object and  
painting in

that - transfering the image contents to the groups image later?

2008/9/24 Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi David,


Is it a group of images or a group of mixed objects?

Joe Wilkins


On Sep 23, 2008, at 4:45 PM, David Bovill wrote:

In the IDE if you select an image in a group and try to paint - it
creates


a
new image. Is there any way to to set things up / script it so  
that a

user
can paint in an image inside a group?


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Re: Painting on an image in a group?

2008-09-29 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, David Bovill wrote:

 I am really looking for a solution for painting an
 image that is within a group.

There doesn't appear to be a direct solution to this problem, so I made a
small exercise out of it and came up with a workaround called Proxy Paint.
Execute the following in your Rev message box:

  go url http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/proxypaint.rev;

This solution uses a separate image object outside the group to capture
paint data, and then transfer it to the grouped image.  Maybe something like
this can help.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia  Design


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Re: Painting on an image in a group?

2008-09-28 Thread David Bovill
It's a group with one image and a button in it. AFAIK - there is no way to
do this, except be cloing the image as a card level object and painting in
that - transfering the image contents to the groups image later?

2008/9/24 Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi David,

 Is it a group of images or a group of mixed objects?

 Joe Wilkins


 On Sep 23, 2008, at 4:45 PM, David Bovill wrote:

  In the IDE if you select an image in a group and try to paint - it creates
 a
 new image. Is there any way to to set things up / script it so that a user
 can paint in an image inside a group?


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Re: Painting on an image in a group?

2008-09-28 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
David, I assume you're using the paint bucket tool for the user to  
paint with?


I'm not quite sure why you are grouping this one image with the  
button. Why

not just have each new card created with its own image. Group the button
so it appears on all of the cards; and, perhaps, you may wish to hide  
it if or
when you want to print the painted image. Also, what are the types of  
images
you are using? Just drawn in the IDE or imported as a control image  
from files

that have been scanned or maybe photos? I've been having success with
user painting under almost all of these circumstances.

Joe Wilkins

On Sep 28, 2008, at 3:18 AM, David Bovill wrote:

It's a group with one image and a button in it. AFAIK - there is no  
way to
do this, except be cloing the image as a card level object and  
painting in

that - transfering the image contents to the groups image later?

2008/9/24 Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hi David,

Is it a group of images or a group of mixed objects?

Joe Wilkins


On Sep 23, 2008, at 4:45 PM, David Bovill wrote:

In the IDE if you select an image in a group and try to paint - it  
creates

a
new image. Is there any way to to set things up / script it so  
that a user

can paint in an image inside a group?

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Painting on an image in a group?

2008-09-23 Thread David Bovill
In the IDE if you select an image in a group and try to paint - it creates a
new image. Is there any way to to set things up / script it so that a user
can paint in an image inside a group?
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Re: Painting on an image in a group?

2008-09-23 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins

Hi David,

Is it a group of images or a group of mixed objects?

Joe Wilkins

On Sep 23, 2008, at 4:45 PM, David Bovill wrote:

In the IDE if you select an image in a group and try to paint - it  
creates a
new image. Is there any way to to set things up / script it so that  
a user

can paint in an image inside a group?


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