Parentheses in Menu Items

2008-07-08 Thread Mikey
So I have this menu control on a card.  I want to put parentheses in some of
the items.  However the manual says that putting an open-parentheses in any
menuitem disables the item.  Instead you should use \(.  So I have written a
script to fix that problem, but the backslash still appears instead of being
eaten.  So I decided to find out what would happen if I removed the
backslash, and lo and behold the menuitem is not disabled and the
parenthesis appears.  So am I missing something here?

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Re: Parentheses in Menu Items

2008-07-08 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi Mikey,

The backslash is only necessary if the left parenthesis is the first  
character of the text of the menu item.


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On 8 jul 2008, at 22:56, Mikey wrote:

So I have this menu control on a card.  I want to put parentheses in  
some of
the items.  However the manual says that putting an open-parentheses  
in any
menuitem disables the item.  Instead you should use \(.  So I have  
written a
script to fix that problem, but the backslash still appears instead  
of being

eaten.  So I decided to find out what would happen if I removed the
backslash, and lo and behold the menuitem is not disabled and the
parenthesis appears.  So am I missing something here?


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Re: putting numbers into parentheses

2008-04-14 Thread Charles Szasz

Peter,

Actually, I did that yesterday! I thought that was easier than using
parentheses. Thanks for your suggestion.



Why not put these values in a different color, such as red, instead of  
using parens or brackets? Under most conditions that should be fairly  
easy.

Joe Wilkins

On Apr 13, 2008, at 8:15 PM, Charles Szasz wrote:


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Re: putting numbers into parentheses

2008-04-14 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins

You're welcome. Glad I was able to help.

Joe Wilkins

On Apr 14, 2008, at 4:21 PM, Charles Szasz wrote:


Actually, I did that yesterday! I thought that was easier than using
parentheses. Thanks for your suggestion.


Peter,


Why not put these values in a different color, such as red, instead of
using parens or brackets? Under most conditions that should be fairly
easy.

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putting numbers into parentheses

2008-04-13 Thread Charles Szasz

I am working on a program that does calculations. Some of the calculations
will be completed with a value missing. I want to use parentheses to make
these results stand out from the other calculations. Without adding
parentheses to a field, how can I put the results of a calculation into a
field that is displayed in parentheses? 
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Re: putting numbers into parentheses

2008-04-13 Thread Ken Ray
On 4/13/08 5:31 PM, Charles Szasz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am working on a program that does calculations. Some of the calculations
 will be completed with a value missing. I want to use parentheses to make
 these results stand out from the other calculations. Without adding
 parentheses to a field, how can I put the results of a calculation into a
 field that is displayed in parentheses?

Sorry, Charles, but I don't understand - I keep reading the above as how
can I show parentheses in a field without using parentheses and I go
huh?.  :-)

Can you restate your problem so even someone as simple as I can understand
it? 

;-)

Ken Ray
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Re: putting numbers into parentheses

2008-04-13 Thread Peter Alcibiades

Ken, I think he wants to put brackets AROUND the field, in response to some
conditions.  Like if they were labels and the field was between them.  Could
you do it with label fields, and make them visible and invisible?

Peter
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Re: putting numbers into parentheses

2008-04-13 Thread Charles Szasz

Ken,

Sorry for the confusion! I want to place some scores in placeholders without
parentheses already being in the placeholder. So that some scores that go
into the placeholder won't have parentheses but other scores will have
parentheses. In other words the parentheses must be part of a score under
certain conditions. I have tried @s but without any success.



Sorry, Charles, but I don't understand - I keep reading the above as how
can I show parentheses in a field without using parentheses and I go
huh?.  :-)

Can you restate your problem so even someone as simple as I can understand
it? 

;-)

Ken Ray
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Re: putting numbers into parentheses

2008-04-13 Thread Charles Szasz

Peter,

You are right about what I want to do. And, I will try your suggestion!
Thanks!


Peter Alcibiades wrote:
 
 Ken, I think he wants to put brackets AROUND the field, in response to
 some conditions.  Like if they were labels and the field was between them. 
 Could you do it with label fields, and make them visible and invisible?
 
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Re: putting numbers into parentheses

2008-04-13 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Why not put these values in a different color, such as red, instead of  
using parens or brackets? Under most conditions that should be fairly  
easy.


Joe Wilkins

On Apr 13, 2008, at 8:15 PM, Charles Szasz wrote:



Ken,

Sorry for the confusion! I want to place some scores in placeholders  
without
parentheses already being in the placeholder. So that some scores  
that go

into the placeholder won't have parentheses but other scores will have
parentheses. In other words the parentheses must be part of a score  
under

certain conditions. I have tried @s but without any success.



Sorry, Charles, but I don't understand - I keep reading the above as  
how

can I show parentheses in a field without using parentheses and I go
huh?.  :-)

Can you restate your problem so even someone as simple as I can  
understand

it?

;-)

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
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Re: W(h)ither Rev??? - (was sundry recent rants, with ever-increasing parentheses and unending tree branches)

2007-06-11 Thread Bob Warren

Andre wrote:


Bob:


we have order and we have progress... runrev is on a nice, orderly
position in the 2.8.x series and have a clear roadmap to progress...

again, what do you want from open source that can't be achieved by
closed source?

Andre

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Just so as not to leave it up in the air...
I think we are talking at cross-purposes because of the confusion of recent 
threads.

1) The kind of order and progress I would like to see is the regularity of Rev's 
production procedures, better handling and turnaround of bugfixing, better general communication at 
all levels, etc. Or to use Chipp's word, a much more professional approach.

2) Although I associate myself with the Linux movement, I have never been particularly in favour of 
open source and I have never ever recommended this in relation to Rev. However, I would 
also never attempt to censor discussion about it, or any other consideration for that matter. All 
ideas can be useful if you are attempting to innovate rather than defend.

Bob


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W(h)ither Rev??? - (was sundry recent rants, with ever-increasing parentheses and unending tree branches)

2007-06-10 Thread Mike Harland
Having read the latest Mathewson v. Kane mini-rant, I thought it was  
about time somebody long-in-the-tooth, white-haired and Gandalf-like  
synthesised a few things. As a persistent, silent reader for many  
years on this list, I assume I can be allowed one message of  
(positively) negative comment before I am banned or threatened with  
legal action!


Going back to all the HyperCard nostalgia, as I remember it, HC was  
intended to become another 'atom' of QuickTime to supply the  
interactive multi-platform programming element - but Apple were weak  
at the time and somebody powerful and threatening from outside killed  
that great development idea off. So we developers all reluctantly had  
to abandon HC, fork out big money and migrate to Director/Flash/etc.  
to make our software multi-platform, get it onto the web and into the  
global market. Instead of an 'Open Source'-like, killer-platform that  
would have been QTHC, we ended up with all the present HC--Rev  
clones, practically divorced from the main multi-platform UI of the  
web browser, and with QT as an under-developed dying duck, losing out  
to Real and MS. They all remain as small or shrinking applications  
with an ambiguous identity in a now much wider web-based (soon to be  
mobile-based) world.


Rev tries hard to be a commercial company with a proprietary app, but  
it still suffers from the same ill-defined usage identity that HC  
did. It has unfortunately alienated many of the 'academic' users who  
made HC what it was, 'Open Source' in all but name, believing that  
these 'freeby people' were the cause of its demise (even if people s  
had by then been forced to start paying a fair amount for it!!) while  
the truth is that HC failed because Apple were unable to make it  
multiplatform and web-embeddable.


Rev continues to contemplate its own navel with all its talk of  
'pros' on this list, while consistently looking down its nose at the  
so-called hobbyist, newby or daft-headed academic (consider this:  
would that 'million dollar app' have been made if it were not through  
the cooperation of an academic with a bright idea and a brilliant Rev  
programmer??). The list is mainly filled with posts from self-styled  
'experts' who are actual investors in the company and make their  
living from its success or failure and therefore are biassed by  
definition. Their comments prove nothing to me and merely try to  
overshadow others with their barrage of positive messages.


Having been in at the beginning of the hypertext 'revolution' (almost  
2 decades ago, before CDs and the web even existed) and already  
building multimedia educational apps in HC and ToolBook, I have ever  
since been waiting for the multi-platform successor to bring me back  
to the user-friendly, universal app we all ('pro' or 'hobbyist')  
deserve. But I am still waiting for Rev to prove itself as a stable  
and reliable vehicle for delivering software in a global market - I  
stopped updating a year ago and certainly won't be continually  
updating every year until it does exactly what Richmond Mathewson  
says and sorts out a stable, 'virtually' bug-free version. But, as  
Scott Kane says, if things continue as they are I expect global  
events and other orgs will have overtaken Rev by then ...


Wake up Rev management/programming team!  Open up to a cooperative,  
community-based  strategy which welcomes criticism and innovation and  
is openly friendly to its user base - evolve, mature and learn to be  
flame proof! Allow people to produce Rev advice sites and repository  
sites or to form non-commercial user groups, instead of saying No,  
we'll set this up, since we know what we are doing and can do it  
better, and then effectively strangle these initiatives by always  
failing to come up with the goods because you obviously don't have  
the resources. Control-freakery will merely leave you as a small  
struggling company in a small commercial backwater, instead of being  
the globally recognised and commercially successful HC/MC successor  
you ought to be by now.


I suggest non-flame-resistant 'experts' and others who may feel  
aggrieved at what I have said should contemplate the positive message  
intended in this comment, before blinkeredly concentrating on their  
own personal ego defences - now and again we all have to suffer some  
unintended unfair criticism to see the error of our ways, and I am  
quite willing to be the first to accept that what I have said here  
may contain some  ...


End of one-off, non-continuing comment!

Mike




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Re: W(h)ither Rev??? - (was sundry recent rants, with ever-increasing parentheses and unending tree branches)

2007-06-10 Thread Ian Wood


On 10 Jun 2007, at 12:35, Mike Harland wrote:

Allow people to produce Rev advice sites and repository sites or to  
form non-commercial user groups


I must be missing something somewhere, because there's a pretty  
substantial number of Rev repositories on the web... ;-)


Ian
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W(h)ither Rev??? - (was sundry recent rants, with ever-increasing parentheses and unending tree branches)

2007-06-10 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Mike Harland wrote:

Rev continues to contemplate its own navel with all
its talk of  
'pros' on this list, while consistently looking down
its nose at the  
so-called hobbyist, newby or daft-headed academic

extremely well-put. And, bye-the-bye, your posting
title expresses the situation to a tee.

To this I can only add my own case:

a chap who has a poxy little private language school
who programs content delivery for a total audience of
24.

Um; Mike; the latest Mathewson v. Kane mini-rant is
a wee bit off-track: I don't have a problem with Scott
Kane, nor his opinion - I happen to disagree with it;
however I am not a bigot. 

It has been constantly pointed out on this list that
Runtime Revolution suffer from a bad case of
paternalism; however, I think that there are enough
'adolescent' boys and girls amongst the posters to
this list to balance that :) Of course heavy-handed
fathers rarely wake up until their rebellious children
run away - and that could well happen.

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson



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Re: W(h)ither Rev??? - (was sundry recent rants, with ever-increasing parentheses and unending tree branches)

2007-06-10 Thread Andre Garzia

Mike et al.

I am not an investor. I produce open source apps and closed source
apps in Rev. I produce them in Macs and deliver in windows and linux
with success. And yes, I build web applications in Rev.

I am not biased. Some stuff could be made simpler or easier, like the
FFI and being able to use native syntax but I don't think and open
source revolution is the way to go now. I belive we would not have
that wonderful team we have working full time on the product if we
went opensource.

There are many threads on this list by people telling runrev how to
manage their business. Of all the xTalks out there, they appear to be
the only one gaining grounds and staying up. And I keep seeing lots of
I know more bout management of a company than all you guys mails on
the list. They are closed source, that does not mean tyranny or that
we're on a fight with them.

I am getting really tired of those threads. No one said a single
plausible, logical, reason to go open source now. I don't care about
20 years ago, Rev is not HC. RunRev is not Apple, Adobe or Google.

RunRev is a small team company in scotland.

We can work together, we've been doing that for years and we're doing
fine. If you guys belive that open source would squash bugs, then why
don't you gather a group and build regression tests. Then when RunRev
team builds a new engine, they can try your tests and please you.

I am tired of OSS pointless discussions... I want to get back to
talking code, software and things like that.

We can build repositories of code you know, there are plenty, we even
have a subversion external that Chris and Chipp presented in RevCon
West.

We can build open source libraries, check libCGI or my EasyCGI.

We can build web applications, we could do better in that area, but
still we can! check http://www.himalayanacademy.com/resources/lexicon
for a web app made with Rev.

I don't understand what are you guys in need of.

andre
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Re: W(h)ither Rev??? - (was sundry recent rants, with ever-increasing parentheses and unending tree branches)

2007-06-10 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins

Andre,

You have just spoken for the silent majority!

Joe Wilkins

On Jun 10, 2007, at 9:34 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:


Mike et al.
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I don't understand what are you guys in need of.

andre
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Re: W(h)ither Rev??? - (was sundry recent rants, with ever-increasing parentheses and unending tree branches)

2007-06-10 Thread Judy Perry
As a hobbyist/daft-headed academic, I don't understand this remark.

When Metacard was $1,000 a license and I complained to Rev that
hobbyist/academics couldn't afford/wouldn't pay $1,000 a license, they
came out with a series of reasonably-priced feature-reduced versions to
meet the hobbyist/academic need.

Dan Shafer  Rev produced a much-needed book aimed at the same.

Rev  Jacque organized a series of web-based conference and tutorial
stacks.

And I am reasonably certain that there are other similar examples that I'm
just not recalling at the moment.

Judy

On Sun, 10 Jun 2007, Mike Harland wrote:

 Rev continues to contemplate its own navel with all its talk of
 'pros' on this list, while consistently looking down its nose at the
 so-called hobbyist, newby or daft-headed academic



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W(h)ither Rev??? - (was sundry recent rants, with ever-increasing parentheses and unending tree branches)

2007-06-10 Thread Bob Warren

Mike Harland wrote:

Having read the latest Mathewson v. Kane mini-rant, I thought it was  
about time somebody long-in-the-tooth, white-haired and Gandalf-like  
synthesised a few things. As a persistent, silent reader for many  
years on this list, I assume I can be allowed one message of  
(positively) negative comment before I am banned or threatened with  
legal action!


etc.

--
Certainly much-appreciated from this end Mike, and thanks for breaking the 
silence.

Regards,

Bob (Warren)

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W(h)ither Rev??? - (was sundry recent rants, with ever-increasing parentheses and unending tree branches)

2007-06-10 Thread Bob Warren

Andre wrote:

I don't understand what are you guys in need of.

-
Andre:

Brazil's lemma is Order and Progress I believe?
Of course, I am just speaking for myself.

Regards,
Bob



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Re: W(h)ither Rev??? - (was sundry recent rants, with ever-increasing parentheses and unending tree branches)

2007-06-10 Thread Andre Garzia

Bob:

we have order and we have progress... runrev is on a nice, orderly
position in the 2.8.x series and have a clear roadmap to progress...

again, what do you want from open source that can't be achieved by
closed source?

Andre

On 6/10/07, Bob Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Andre wrote:

I don't understand what are you guys in need of.

-
Andre:

Brazil's lemma is Order and Progress I believe?
Of course, I am just speaking for myself.

Regards,
Bob



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Re: W(h)ither Rev??? - (was sundry recent rants, with ever-increasing parentheses and unending tree branches)

2007-06-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
Andre Garzia wrote perhaps the most cogent statement of all threads on 
open source and quality concerns in the history of this list:



If you guys believe that open source would squash bugs, then why
don't you gather a group and build regression tests.


A lot of folks here share a good many opinions about quality, some about 
the unrealized benefits of open source process, and a few about both.


So now Andre has reminded us that the sum of these posts imply a sort of 
invitation:


Use the open source process to design, build, and deliver a framework 
for automated regression and soak testing, perhaps with a system which 
would allow other to provide additional modules to test other features 
whenever they have time to write them.


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http://youtube.com/watch?v=OtuYWyjk4ZI

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I have plenty of server space at revJournal.com, and as a site that 
bills itself as being of, for, and by Revolution developers it seems a 
natural home for such things.


revJournal.com will provide space and FTP access for any Revolution open 
source initiative which is able to get past the prototype stage.  Just 
let me know


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(number in parentheses) after the Message Watcher?

2004-08-23 Thread Erik Hansen

what is the (number in parentheses)
after the Message Watcher?
there's nothing in the Help files.

Thank You,

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Re: # actually the short way returns an error / PARENTHESES

2004-02-22 Thread Christopher Mitchell
It is true that the polygon needs to be regular, which really leaves a 
lot to be desired... you can't rotate non-regular vector art, and you 
can't rotate groups of art regular or not.  so the things you're 
rotating are pretty limited.

and my results from rotating things I created with the weird paint tool 
experience shall not even be discussed.

btw I don't know that we call these  delimiters anything in English.  
They are simply less-than/greater-than signs.  I know, however, they 
they are typographer's quotation marks as   around the world.

Yours,
Chris
On Feb 22, 2004, at 2:36 AM, Malte Brill wrote:
hi opie and all,

GEEZ!!  I did it again!!!
g I always say brackets ( is that []? ) when I mean parentheses [ is 
that
()?]. What is the english name of these ? If you happen to see me 
saying
something about brackets it is always possible I mean parentheses and 
vice
versa... :-(

In the example I sent, there is a precedence problem.
I was pretty confused about that problem and if I remember correctly 
1.1.1
compiled and ran the non parenthesis version.. I might be wrong there.

P.S. Don't know what kind of graphic that pointer1 is...but...in my
test, although it compiled correctly with the above...*my* pointer1
didn't seem to rotate...
Needs to be a regular polygon. (I had to look it up, because it didnĀ“t
rotate here either.)
Best,

Malte

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Re: PARENTHESES

2004-02-22 Thread FlexibleLearning
Your right about the ^ being a caret/carrot.
But what then are the left and right angle brackets called besides left 
and right brackets or less than/greater than???

any ideas???

T


Angle brackets (open and close).

/H
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Re: # actually the short way returns an error / PARENTHESES (OT)

2004-02-22 Thread Christopher Mitchell
But not all circumflexes should be pointy, and since standard ascii 
doesn't allow for combining characters how was this intended to be 
useful as a character on a computer keyboard?  (just thinking outloud, 
as someone very familiar with using alt-key combinations and accents, 
including circumflex, this has always seemed like a second-best choice 
for what would be on the 6 key - and just following as a vestige of 
typewriters that actually allowed a back-up  overstrike)

Yours,
Chris
On Feb 22, 2004, at 10:12 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
circumflex is the language reference for ^ (shift 6) but is also 
referred to as the caret key.

On Feb 22, 2004, at 10:36 AM, Marian Petrides wrote:

Actually a caret  is  a ^  (shift 6 on your keyboard).  Is carrot 
the correct jargonese or just a misspelling of caret?

M

On Feb 22, 2004, at 9:45 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:

  are angle brackets in typography! but in computer jargon they 
have always been called carrots around here

Tom

On Feb 22, 2004, at 7:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What is the english name of these ?
I thought these are called angle brackets ? :)

http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/a/angle_brackets.html

Shishi

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RE: # actually the short way returns an error / PARENTHESES

2004-02-22 Thread Ken Ray
Tom,

According to Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracket_(punctuation), the () [], {} and 
are all considered to be brackets, but the common names are:

() Parentheses
[] Square Brackets
{} Braces
 Angle Brackets

with alternate names as follows:

() Round Brackets, Curved Brackets, Parens, Fingernails
[] Crochets (in Great Britain, apparently)
{} Curly Brackets

Just FYI...

Ken Ray
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  Carrot 
 { Bracket }
 [ Square Bracket ]
 ( Parenthesis )
 \ Back Slash
 / Forward Slash
 ~ Tilde
 
 All cool stuff
 
 
 Tom
 
 
 On Feb 22, 2004, at 3:36 AM, Malte Brill wrote:
 
  What is the english name of these ?
 
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Re: Parentheses

2004-02-22 Thread David Vaughan
On 23/02/2004, at 9:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 23 February 2004 5:20:08 GMT+11:00
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Subject: Re: PARENTHESES
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Your right about the ^ being a caret/carrot.
But what then are the left and right angle brackets called besides left
and right brackets or less than/greater than???
any ideas???
The nearest to a formal name for left and right angle brackets is 
guillemet. Normally, these appear as   and are used in European 
languages but the single form, a single guillement, is also used in 
typography. However, the guillemet is actually quite a bit smaller than 
the angle bracket used in most computer character sets while 
typographers also use a taller, less-angled version called well 
actually I don't know what that one is called (Tall Guillemet? Slim 
Guille?), so someone still has room to enlighten me. It seems perfectly 
good to me to keep calling them left and right angle brackets, or else 
you will sound like you are navigating in a rally for a manic in a 
Citroen.

cheers
David
T
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Re: # actually the short way returns an error / PARENTHESES

2004-02-22 Thread Thomas McGrath III
cool

t
On Feb 22, 2004, at 5:13 PM, Ken Ray wrote:
Tom,

According to Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracket_(punctuation), the () [], {} and 

are all considered to be brackets, but the common names are:

() Parentheses
[] Square Brackets
{} Braces
 Angle Brackets
with alternate names as follows:

() Round Brackets, Curved Brackets, Parens, Fingernails
[] Crochets (in Great Britain, apparently)
{} Curly Brackets
Just FYI...

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
-Original Message-
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 Carrot 
{ Bracket }
[ Square Bracket ]
( Parenthesis )
\ Back Slash
/ Forward Slash
~ Tilde
All cool stuff

Tom

On Feb 22, 2004, at 3:36 AM, Malte Brill wrote:

What is the english name of these ?
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Re: Parentheses

2004-02-22 Thread Thomas McGrath III
:-)



On Feb 22, 2004, at 6:42 PM, David Vaughan wrote:

On 23/02/2004, at 9:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 23 February 2004 5:20:08 GMT+11:00
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PARENTHESES
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Your right about the ^ being a caret/carrot.
But what then are the left and right angle brackets called besides 
left
and right brackets or less than/greater than???

any ideas???
The nearest to a formal name for left and right angle brackets is 
guillemet. Normally, these appear as   and are used in European 
languages but the single form, a single guillement, is also used in 
typography. However, the guillemet is actually quite a bit smaller 
than the angle bracket used in most computer character sets while 
typographers also use a taller, less-angled version called well 
actually I don't know what that one is called (Tall Guillemet? Slim 
Guille?), so someone still has room to enlighten me. It seems 
perfectly good to me to keep calling them left and right angle 
brackets, or else you will sound like you are navigating in a rally 
for a manic in a Citroen.

cheers
David
T
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